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Reply #180 posted 12/23/17 10:34am

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TrevorAyer said:

It’s fine if they end the skywalker saga .. it’s just that cramming these fanal 3 movies with go nowhere stories focusing on the pretty boring noobs ruins the actual good stuff .. btw both kylo and rey are skywalkers so they aren’t actually ending the skywalker story .. tried rewatching a cam vid the other day and was really enjoying it till the las vegas planet scene at which point it got worse than the prequels and i had to turn it off ... kylo is great .. rey is ok .. the rest of the noobs are awful and pointless .. bb8 needs a solid punting



Rey’s a Skywalker? So you’re convinced the whole alcoholic junk trader thing was a lie?
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Reply #181 posted 12/23/17 1:42pm

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Shocked at the good reviews.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #182 posted 12/23/17 2:32pm

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Shocked at the good reviews.




Didn’t you enjoy it?
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Reply #183 posted 12/23/17 4:19pm

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I'm right there with you guys, really didnt have a problem with the portrayal of Luke Skywalker in TLJ...I can see why he went into hiding. The only issue I had is that the Luke I know would have left with Rey, especially after she gave him the exact same argument that Luke gave folks in ROTJ....that there was still good in Vader (Kylo), and that he could be saved. How could Luke forget that? Still...I didnt have that much of a problem with it.

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My problem is that I didnt realize that Disney is using this trilogy to tie up and end the Skywalker saga. Apparently, their plan was to focus on each of the original trilogy characters....TFA focused on Han Solo, TLJ focused on Luke, and Ep IX was supposed to focus on Leia, and then the Skywalker family is completely gone from SW, the new trilogy that Rian Johnson has signed on for is a SW story that has nothing to do with the Skywalkers. NO THANK YOU! disbelief Being a fanboy myself, who spent a lot of money collecting every SW book in the 90s/00s, who read the story of Han and Leia's twins, of Luke's son Ben....to see Disney go in a completely diffferent direction breaks my heart. I can understand maybe tweaking the story a bit, not doing exactly what happened in the expanded universe novels, but to completely shut down the Skywalker story....as Vader said in ROTS...."NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"



I feel ya but I guess that since Obi Wan is the one who lost Vader, but Luke was the one who lost Kylo, he took it more personally?

Kylo Ren is a Skywalker and I still think it's possible that Rey could be.

It looks more like an attempt to introduce a new generation of the Skywalker lineage. They might be considering some type of Luke's daughter vs Leia's son dynamic but the writers seem undecided if that is the direction they should take hence the lie that Kylo told Rey about her parents. I suspect they are saving some kind of revelation for the next movie.

The problem is that unlike Star Trek, whose transition was smooth by comparison, the Star Wars passing of the baton has been rather clumsy and awkward.

I guess the Trek writers are a little better at knowing who and what not to fuck with. lol

[Edited 12/23/17 16:37pm]

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Reply #184 posted 12/23/17 4:20pm

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purple hair said "god's speed" is that odd?


I also want to know if GONK was in it!



What 'chu talkin bout Willis???


Have you been drinking with 2freaky again??

Didn't I warn you about drinking with 2freaky? lol

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Reply #185 posted 12/23/17 4:28pm

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EmmaMcG said:

ColAngus said:

i said on my other thread - i thought the low for me was yoda s appearance ... cant they make that yoda thing look half decent ???? sad



i agree with alot of what has been said .... i was kinda left with the feeling that ... wow ... i got so UP for this movie and they worked on it for so long ... and this is what they came up with ???



i think if Luke as a charactor was going to go away to a planet and be like that .... i think they would have thought more into it ... and why he was there .... instead of just being a hermit ... maybe make it that he was trying to come up with a way to defeat snoke ....



but in the end the snoke demise is kinda silly ... but a surprise and i think that is why we go to movies .... now Kylo is in charge etc ... wink





They returned to the Yoda puppet look because when they made him CGI in the prequels, people complained. It seems that no matter what they do with Star Wars, people will always complain.

I thought Snoke was going to be the big villain of this trilogy and even though I was quite looking forward to finding out more about him, it always seemed like he was too similar to Palpatine. When they killed him off I was genuinely shocked. In a good way. The Force Awakens was criticised for being too similar to the original and now The Last Jedi is being criticised for shaking things up. Like I said, people will always complain.

Things are set up nicely now though for Episode 9, I think. Rey's parentage is still a topic for debate and I have a feeling that she'll end up being related to Obi Wan, which could plant the seed for his spin off. Maybe she's his granddaughter or something. Maybe even give Ewan McGregor a little force ghost cameo. Even if her parents were nobodies, her grandparents might be related to the overall story. I actually hope that Kylo was telling the truth though and she's completely separate from the lineage of the Skywalkers, Kenobi's etc.
Finn and Rose had some nice scenes together which made me actually care about his character. Rey and Poe seem like a good match too.

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Reply #186 posted 12/23/17 4:30pm

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EmmaMcG said:

TrevorAyer said:
It’s fine if they end the skywalker saga .. it’s just that cramming these fanal 3 movies with go nowhere stories focusing on the pretty boring noobs ruins the actual good stuff .. btw both kylo and rey are skywalkers so they aren’t actually ending the skywalker story .. tried rewatching a cam vid the other day and was really enjoying it till the las vegas planet scene at which point it got worse than the prequels and i had to turn it off ... kylo is great .. rey is ok .. the rest of the noobs are awful and pointless .. bb8 needs a solid punting
LOL, aww, poor BB-8. I think Kylo should have kept his mask on. He doesn't really look all that threatening without it. Rey is alright, I think. I'm not a big fan of Finn to be honest. I'd like to see more of Poe. I think his character has been very underwritten in the two movies so far. As much as I love the original characters I think their inclusion is probably to the detriment of the movie. The newer characters aren't given enough time to shine. With Luke and Han dead and Leia not appearing in Episode 9 maybe they'll be forced (see what I did there) to focus more on Poe and co. Although, as much as I really liked Episode 7 and 8, I'm more looking forward to the Obi Wan Kenobi movie.



His mask, his shirt, etc.....po thang. disbelief

He doesn't look at all menacing. More like a kid playing dress up or an adolescent Serverus Snape. lol

I agree with more Po and less Finn. Rey is a better match with Po too.

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Reply #187 posted 12/23/17 4:49pm

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If Snoke isn't a Sith then how could he train Kylo to be an effective Dark Lord? Would he even be powerful enough? eek

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Reply #188 posted 12/23/17 8:09pm

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lust said:

TrevorAyer said:

It’s fine if they end the skywalker saga .. it’s just that cramming these fanal 3 movies with go nowhere stories focusing on the pretty boring noobs ruins the actual good stuff .. btw both kylo and rey are skywalkers so they aren’t actually ending the skywalker story .. tried rewatching a cam vid the other day and was really enjoying it till the las vegas planet scene at which point it got worse than the prequels and i had to turn it off ... kylo is great .. rey is ok .. the rest of the noobs are awful and pointless .. bb8 needs a solid punting



Rey’s a Skywalker? So you’re convinced the whole alcoholic junk trader thing was a lie?



Yes .. Rey is either kylos sister or daughter .. last jedi mirrors the ot but they are waiting for the reveal in 9 ... kylo is much older than he behaves ... han and leia are old .. snoke has an emperor size role .. they flipped the order of some of the reveals which is why everyone thinks they are shaking it up but its as much of a remake as force awakens was .. i think rey is kylos daughter or maybe sister .. it makes a lot more sense that way
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Reply #189 posted 12/23/17 11:45pm

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babynoz said:

If Snoke isn't a Sith then how could he train Kylo to be an effective Dark Lord? Would he even be powerful enough? eek



That might explain how he was killed so easily. He was obviously in over his head and paid the price for it.
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Reply #190 posted 12/24/17 2:05pm

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EmmaMcG said:

babynoz said:

If Snoke isn't a Sith then how could he train Kylo to be an effective Dark Lord? Would he even be powerful enough? eek



That might explain how he was killed so easily. He was obviously in over his head and paid the price for it.

It's also possible that he was overwhelmed concentrating on keeping Rey under control and Kylo was fakingv his own mind out with its splintered conscience, hiding it behind a cloak of practiced anger/fear
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Reply #191 posted 12/25/17 4:06am

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Star Wars: The Last Jedi (or The First Snowflakes)



Fucking 1/10... I would give it 0/10 but the 1 is deserved for having Yoda in it!
Last time he was in a Star Wars flick was "Return Of The Jedi", so it was awesome seeing him again being a solid voice of Force reason...
Further the movie was just shit with token black guy and token asian woman doing PETA filler stuff just because black, asian and PETA... Yes, we know, war is bad and people profit of it...
Stupid end scene with kids, because pedo Disney...
Lulu Skywalker not having a green lightsaber when he's projecting himself at the end, what a fucking pussy way to go and complete with forced bullshit scene of two setting suns because hamfisted "circle is complete" voodoo shit...
Building up to Obi Wan with "The Force Awakens" and neglecting him completely, Lulu fucking dies alone! That's not fuckig right you fucking Disney!
Rey's parents because snowflake...
General Hugs or Hux still in this movie who should have died in the previous movie by way of shitty overacting...
And what the fuck is a Snoke? That nothing guy was just there to give boring Rey and Ren some incoherent snowflake story... The dude says he can't die and then get's killed in the most lame fashion... That fucker better be Darth Plagueis "The Wise" and come back and slay these two fucks...

And where the fuck was the true hero of the entire "Star Wars" saga R2-D2?? What do we get? We get more of that fucking Basket Ball 8 shitty droid thing...

How is it possible to have a chance at having fucking badass Luke Skywalker in your movie and neuter him and replace him with "Lulu Skywalker The Whiney Bitch" who is intimidated and gets all pussy and gives up the first chance he gets, just by one Force enabled child who leans to the Dark Side? This is "Godfather Part III" levels of dumbfuckery...
And having a chance to have Leia slay in brutal and epic fashion, typical of her badass style, but replace her by Twin Peaks' Diana (but now with all new purple wig) who has no relevance in this entire "saga" and give her that scene and thus becomes completely anticlimactic...
What a shit movie... This is right down there with "Rogue One" and "The Phantom Menace"...
I dig "Looper" but Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy can both eat a dick, other than that fucking pedo Mickey's they're seemingly choking on...

DC's movieverse is ruined and gone and now "Star Wars" has too... FUCKING STAR WARS!

Neversin.

[Edited 12/25/17 4:11am]

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Reply #192 posted 12/25/17 5:33am

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Would have been better when the Millennium Falcon rescued everybody, Lando also showed up with his ships to help rescue them.

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Reply #193 posted 12/25/17 5:51am

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babynoz said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

purple hair said "god's speed" is that odd?


I also want to know if GONK was in it!



What 'chu talkin bout Willis???


Have you been drinking with 2freaky again??

Didn't I warn you about drinking with 2freaky? lol

Holdo says "God's speed" and I thought that was odd in star wars...


and GONK has been in the other 8 Movies.... I did not see GONK in TLJ!

having BB8 say the "bad feeling" line was lame too!

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Reply #194 posted 12/25/17 1:14pm

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Neversin said:

Star Wars: The Last Jedi (or The First Snowflakes)



Fucking 1/10... I would give it 0/10 but the 1 is deserved for having Yoda in it!
Last time he was in a Star Wars flick was "Return Of The Jedi", so it was awesome seeing him again being a solid voice of Force reason...
Further the movie was just shit with token black guy and token asian woman doing PETA filler stuff just because black, asian and PETA... Yes, we know, war is bad and people profit of it...
Stupid end scene with kids, because pedo Disney...
Lulu Skywalker not having a green lightsaber when he's projecting himself at the end, what a fucking pussy way to go and complete with forced bullshit scene of two setting suns because hamfisted "circle is complete" voodoo shit...
Building up to Obi Wan with "The Force Awakens" and neglecting him completely, Lulu fucking dies alone! That's not fuckig right you fucking Disney!
Rey's parents because snowflake...
General Hugs or Hux still in this movie who should have died in the previous movie by way of shitty overacting...
And what the fuck is a Snoke? That nothing guy was just there to give boring Rey and Ren some incoherent snowflake story... The dude says he can't die and then get's killed in the most lame fashion... That fucker better be Darth Plagueis "The Wise" and come back and slay these two fucks...

And where the fuck was the true hero of the entire "Star Wars" saga R2-D2?? What do we get? We get more of that fucking Basket Ball 8 shitty droid thing...

How is it possible to have a chance at having fucking badass Luke Skywalker in your movie and neuter him and replace him with "Lulu Skywalker The Whiney Bitch" who is intimidated and gets all pussy and gives up the first chance he gets, just by one Force enabled child who leans to the Dark Side? This is "Godfather Part III" levels of dumbfuckery...
And having a chance to have Leia slay in brutal and epic fashion, typical of her badass style, but replace her by Twin Peaks' Diana (but now with all new purple wig) who has no relevance in this entire "saga" and give her that scene and thus becomes completely anticlimactic...
What a shit movie... This is right down there with "Rogue One" and "The Phantom Menace"...
I dig "Looper" but Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy can both eat a dick, other than that fucking pedo Mickey's they're seemingly choking on...

DC's movieverse is ruined and gone and now "Star Wars" has too... FUCKING STAR WARS!

Neversin.

[Edited 12/25/17 4:11am]

OMG!!!!! I'm laffing so hard at this. I can always count on you to say some foul, cantankerous (sp?) shit! lol. This time, I completely agree. lol lol lol Hella funny and accurate!

[Edited 12/25/17 13:15pm]

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Reply #195 posted 12/25/17 1:35pm

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Reply #196 posted 12/25/17 4:55pm

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Neversin said:

Star Wars: The Last Jedi (or The First Snowflakes)



Fucking 1/10... I would give it 0/10 but the 1 is deserved for having Yoda in it!
Last time he was in a Star Wars flick was "Return Of The Jedi", so it was awesome seeing him again being a solid voice of Force reason...
Further the movie was just shit with token black guy and token asian woman doing PETA filler stuff just because black, asian and PETA... Yes, we know, war is bad and people profit of it...
Stupid end scene with kids, because pedo Disney...
Lulu Skywalker not having a green lightsaber when he's projecting himself at the end, what a fucking pussy way to go and complete with forced bullshit scene of two setting suns because hamfisted "circle is complete" voodoo shit...
Building up to Obi Wan with "The Force Awakens" and neglecting him completely, Lulu fucking dies alone! That's not fuckig right you fucking Disney!
Rey's parents because snowflake...
General Hugs or Hux still in this movie who should have died in the previous movie by way of shitty overacting...
And what the fuck is a Snoke? That nothing guy was just there to give boring Rey and Ren some incoherent snowflake story... The dude says he can't die and then get's killed in the most lame fashion... That fucker better be Darth Plagueis "The Wise" and come back and slay these two fucks...

And where the fuck was the true hero of the entire "Star Wars" saga R2-D2?? What do we get? We get more of that fucking Basket Ball 8 shitty droid thing...

How is it possible to have a chance at having fucking badass Luke Skywalker in your movie and neuter him and replace him with "Lulu Skywalker The Whiney Bitch" who is intimidated and gets all pussy and gives up the first chance he gets, just by one Force enabled child who leans to the Dark Side? This is "Godfather Part III" levels of dumbfuckery...
And having a chance to have Leia slay in brutal and epic fashion, typical of her badass style, but replace her by Twin Peaks' Diana (but now with all new purple wig) who has no relevance in this entire "saga" and give her that scene and thus becomes completely anticlimactic...
What a shit movie... This is right down there with "Rogue One" and "The Phantom Menace"...
I dig "Looper" but Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy can both eat a dick, other than that fucking pedo Mickey's they're seemingly choking on...

DC's movieverse is ruined and gone and now "Star Wars" has too... FUCKING STAR WARS!

Neversin.

[Edited 12/25/17 4:11am]

What are you talking about??? I never saw Token in the movie

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Reply #197 posted 12/25/17 5:00pm

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Neversin said:

Star Wars: The Last Jedi (or The First Snowflakes)



Fucking 1/10... I would give it 0/10 but the 1 is deserved for having Yoda in it!
Last time he was in a Star Wars flick was "Return Of The Jedi", so it was awesome seeing him again being a solid voice of Force reason...
Further the movie was just shit with token black guy and token asian woman doing PETA filler stuff just because black, asian and PETA... Yes, we know, war is bad and people profit of it...
Stupid end scene with kids, because pedo Disney...
Lulu Skywalker not having a green lightsaber when he's projecting himself at the end, what a fucking pussy way to go and complete with forced bullshit scene of two setting suns because hamfisted "circle is complete" voodoo shit...
Building up to Obi Wan with "The Force Awakens" and neglecting him completely, Lulu fucking dies alone! That's not fuckig right you fucking Disney!
Rey's parents because snowflake...
General Hugs or Hux still in this movie who should have died in the previous movie by way of shitty overacting...
And what the fuck is a Snoke? That nothing guy was just there to give boring Rey and Ren some incoherent snowflake story... The dude says he can't die and then get's killed in the most lame fashion... That fucker better be Darth Plagueis "The Wise" and come back and slay these two fucks...

And where the fuck was the true hero of the entire "Star Wars" saga R2-D2?? What do we get? We get more of that fucking Basket Ball 8 shitty droid thing...

How is it possible to have a chance at having fucking badass Luke Skywalker in your movie and neuter him and replace him with "Lulu Skywalker The Whiney Bitch" who is intimidated and gets all pussy and gives up the first chance he gets, just by one Force enabled child who leans to the Dark Side? This is "Godfather Part III" levels of dumbfuckery...
And having a chance to have Leia slay in brutal and epic fashion, typical of her badass style, but replace her by Twin Peaks' Diana (but now with all new purple wig) who has no relevance in this entire "saga" and give her that scene and thus becomes completely anticlimactic...
What a shit movie... This is right down there with "Rogue One" and "The Phantom Menace"...
I dig "Looper" but Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy can both eat a dick, other than that fucking pedo Mickey's they're seemingly choking on...

DC's movieverse is ruined and gone and now "Star Wars" has too... FUCKING STAR WARS!

Neversin.

[Edited 12/25/17 4:11am]

I heard R2D2 was drunk half the time on the set plus was acting like a diva. Because of that they cut his part. Also there are some allegations of sexual misconduct by R2D2 on the set.

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Reply #198 posted 12/25/17 7:58pm

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Reply #199 posted 12/26/17 5:49am

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kpowers said:

Would have been better when the Millennium Falcon rescued everybody, Lando also showed up with his ships to help rescue them.

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It would have been awesome and epic if he was the only one who reacted to the call for help with a huge cloud fleet, simply because you know this dude don't die, he just multiply... But no, nobody reacted to the call for help... In other words a simple way for Disney to discard this Gangsta Nigga from the clouds...
Now we have a token black cowardly janitor seemingly hooking up with some Asian Confusious spouting mechanic working down in the lowest levels... All, of course, to so save white-force-goddess snowflake to hook up with white-enough-looking rebelious super flyboy, because you know...

Neversin.

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Reply #200 posted 12/26/17 8:18am

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I think it's interesting that many review not the movie for itself but rather based on what they think the characters should/would do. Or at least it's a big part of what people think of it.

Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right?
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Reply #201 posted 12/26/17 8:54am

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Phishanga said:

I think it's interesting that many review not the movie for itself but rather based on what they think the characters should/would do. Or at least it's a big part of what people think of it.



The movie itself is garbage because the story is complete shit, next to the characters being lame and doing dumb shit...

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Reply #202 posted 12/26/17 10:13am

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Neversin said:

Phishanga said:

I think it's interesting that many review not the movie for itself but rather based on what they think the characters should/would do. Or at least it's a big part of what people think of it.

The movie itself is garbage because the story is complete shit, next to the characters being lame and doing dumb shit... Neversin.

Though I enjoyed it... yeah.. I can see what you're sayin...

Plus the B story...really was tacked on. I did like the part about Benicios character...and the discovery that he was selling weapons to both sides.

But its inclusion is eh....negotiable

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Neversin said:

kpowers said:

Would have been better when the Millennium Falcon rescued everybody, Lando also showed up with his ships to help rescue them.

billy_dee_williams_-_getty_-_h_2017.jpg


It would have been awesome and epic if he was the only one who reacted to the call for help with a huge cloud fleet, simply because you know this dude don't die, he just multiply... But no, nobody reacted to the call for help... In other words a simple way for Disney to discard this Gangsta Nigga from the clouds...
Now we have a token black cowardly janitor seemingly hooking up with some Asian Confusious spouting mechanic working down in the lowest levels... All, of course, to so save white-force-goddess snowflake to hook up with white-enough-looking rebelious super flyboy, because you know...

Neversin.

[Edited 12/26/17 8:50am]

Regardless of her being Asian the character of Rose felt more like a nerdy fangirl who got a part in the movie. I also saw them pushing to have more females pilots. But yes would love to have seen the Cloud fleet. Would be cool if Finn turned out to be Lando's son.AzcP37e.jpg?fb

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Reply #204 posted 12/27/17 7:13am

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Kpowers thanks for the Coppertone Leia mock up. Super hot....THAT Leia is sexy as hell.
Anyways!
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Saw the film a second time, and the "humorous" bits weren't as offensive this time around. They weren't on the level of Jar Jar stepping in shit...but they were still pretty bad and uncharacteristic...I still like the iron bit though.

It's amazing that people don't "get it"
Saw it in 3-D *(only tickets available without leaving super late) and contrary to what a previous poster said.. the 3-D was pretty commendable. It wasn't cheesy or over the top...but it kinda was only usefull in the space scenes and the large forefront battles.


However, back to the story... I didn't like the pandering....and if you'd read my previous post.. I nodded off on the first watching for the Rey/Cave B.S.

Watching those 3 minutes now... I'm shocked at how ridiculously bad the "parentage" issue is handled... it's dangled around like a stupid joke. She ultimately goes into the cave and has her confrontation with the dark side and for nothing. Totally useless scene...as well as the other bit with Bb-8 shooting coinage... really stupid.

having seen it twice, I realized the kid at the end was the same one that Finn and Required Asian gal confronted in the stalls. That explained my confusion after the first viewing...(I'd nodded off and missed it)

One more inconsistency: and it's crucial... the salt ground is blasted to f*** initially...but once the two "jedi" and "ren" duke it out...it's back to being white.

I hadn't noticed that. It's a cheap cheat to set up the force projection....but the field was bombarded...it was not white. Miraculously changes white.

I've now come to the side where it's totally unnecessary that Luke "faded" but it was set up with a line from Kylo in the first quarter...

Kylo to Rey: "You're not doing this, it'd destroy you" (projecting herself into his world)

Noticed those lame nuances a bit more this time. Same for Leia to Luke: "I know what you're going to say... I changed my hair" [double implication, Luke's force projection is cleaner)

ANYWAYS... THe gal I saw it with wasn't impressed and says she's done with STAR WARS... she used to get excited about them...could be life...or could be the film.

In the end... I really didn't think it was worth watching again... it's not a grower. THe first impression was the best impression for me. ALSO, under my first viewing... I thought the commander conversation was a jab at "BIGGUS DICKUS" from THE LIFE OF BRIAN... "Seven Surly Sadducees" etc... but this time, it didn't seem like his words were as comical. I REALLY wanted the Python team to get in there when the THIRD instance of REy's parentage was thrown around. During that battle's conclusion.. I wanted the whole cast to come in and say "GET ON WITH IT!!!"

I still loathe TFA....useless film.
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People protest way too much. Just like when Empire Strikes Back came out. There was a huge bitchfest with that too. Besides Jar Jar Brinks is The Last Jedi. lol

As for plot holes-This is Star Wars not Shakespeare. I don't think one Star Wars film was written with dialogue that would rate up there with Shakespeare; let alone story lines. Every one acts as if Star Wars is this well written piece of work and thus, it has become more about people's expectations and not critical thinking. The stories are always loosely fitted. Complaining about it now because you don't like the direction it is going is funny to me.

I think I would consider the chatter more interesting if they would just be honest and say they don't like the choices of the director/producer/writer than an in depth "critical" review.

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2045RadicalMattZ said:

To my mind, the notion of desiring to kill your own nephew is indeed a dark dark gutter level conflict within Luke's psyche that part of his self imposed exile only made sense TO ME with that reveal. It's Leia abd Han's child. He WANTED to kill him. IMAGINE THE AWKWARD DISCUSSION AT THAT DINNER! So, Ben.....how was Jedi-camp? HOW'S MY BROTHER TREATING YOU? Imagine THAT situation coming from a hero and bastion of righteousness in the family and THEN tell me there wasn't going to be a fractious conflict within. His absence made sense after all that. ...but TFA is still a cheap teasing piece of shit film. If Luke was missing and didn't want to be discovered and was prepared to die....why would he go to the MOST IDEAL SITE. .....the ANCIENT JEDI TEMPLE? FOR FUCKS SAKE IT'S IN A QUADRANT THAT'S CONVENIENTLY *MISSING* FROM A MAP OF THE TEST OF THE WELL KNOWN GALAXY. If I WERE in THAT UNIVERSE and was above a slave. ..then my knowledge would REALLY REALLY EASILY TELL ME THAT****OHHHH....THAT'S THE RUMORED ANCIENT REALM OF THE JEDI... M.yeah. ...he's probably there. Nope. No chance of finding him. It's only a bit piece missing from a space map that indicates a section where he's at why bother ? It could be he's NOT THERE....why bother. If we're eliminating Jedi. ...why bother going to their HISTORICAL ANCIENT SITE.... **then again. ..maybe this wasn't known to anybody else. But Kylo as a trainee would have known....= PLOT HOLE Further proof that THE FORCE AWAKENS is a piece of shit. [Edited 12/22/17 18:55pm]

You mean a bigger plot hole than an exhaust outlet that if a charged torpedo got into would blow up a death star?? Plot holes are part of this dynasty because this is a space soap opera not Shakespeare. Complaining about plot holes is funny, since it is part of the Star Wars make up. Are we complaining now because we don't like the choices being made??

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Reply #207 posted 12/27/17 1:16pm

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People protest way too much. Just like when Empire Strikes Back came out. There was a huge bitchfest with that too. Besides Jar Jar Brinks is The Last Jedi. lol

As for plot holes-This is Star Wars not Shakespeare. I don't think one Star Wars film was written with dialogue that would rate up there with Shakespeare; let alone story lines. Every one acts as if Star Wars is this well written piece of work and thus, it has become more about people's expectations and not critical thinking. The stories are always loosely fitted. Complaining about it now because you don't like the direction it is going is funny to me.

I think I would consider the chatter more interesting if they would just be honest and say they don't like the choices of the director/producer/writer than an in depth "critical" review.


I agree, with this to offer --

Shakespeare's plays were the Star Wars of their time -- action, sex, gore, wizardry and raunchy comedy. They were written in the language of the time, for the "groundlings" as well as the elites of the time. If social media existed in Shakespeare's time, he'd get roasted as well for plotholes, real or perceived.

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Reply #208 posted 12/28/17 10:10pm

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did anyone hear the Wilhelm Scream in this new one? I wanna say "maybe" during the Snook fight scene. For those unfamiliar with the scream, it sounds like THIS:

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heymistermusic said:

did anyone hear the Wilhelm Scream in this new one? I wanna say "maybe" during the Snook fight scene. For those unfamiliar with the scream, it sounds like THIS:


I'm familiar with the mythology of it. Just didn't hear it. I didn't hear it in the episodes of THE NAKED CITY (*one in which it's was purported to ) either. Maybe they're masked "appearances"... i don't think i could stomach another viewing of the film. it's not very cinematic. For something purporting to be (*Lucas ' s pov of course) to be a Saturday serial. ...this one and the last one fail HORRIBLY.

I couldn't bring myself to even touch the last one until someone spoke of"inconsistencies" and i said. ...oh ah well I'll watch it to point out the problems. But i turned it off after 25 minutes. The feature its actually truly truly terrible and generic. Fans should have been offended by the ease of their supplication. ...lousy pieces of shot that they are.



*(edit) lousy pieces of SHIT that they are.

What i intend to state and MEASURE is this:


Could you walk into THIS film without having seen any others, and felt that the plot carried you along? (*or was it just v generational curiosity from a better series? )

2. Does the ACTION necessitate classification as an action adventure film?


I don't think it does. It has no ties to anything. And nobody exudes any b heart. Even Skywalker....i read that he approached this as an art house film, BUT knowing the background of this character all these movements are trash. His acting is way on par. The film isn't. It's a film deliberately destroying convention with massive plot holes.

It's an exercise in comerciality.


I hope Lucas can sue them for something. The more i sleep on it adds think on it, the more I'm offended that generations of kowtowing idiots will take their kids to this bullshit...


I think my hate, though. ...rests upon people. I'm glad many fans reject it. It's garbage. A well shot garbage, but totally a break up with cheap commercial interludes (*unnecessary awful character maz)
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