namepeace said:

EmmaMcG said:

Hudson said: Lizard nuns LOL. I think you answered your own question.

Give it time. They'll be famous enough.

They'll get action figures for sure.

Hudson said:

How come they're selling porg toys but not these cute little lizard nuns?

The nuns kinda look like the Grendlers from the tv show Earth 2 from the 90's

Some have said the fanboys don't matter, but, as fanboys are often the most likely to go back to the theater to see a Star Wars movie multiple times, it seems they do matter. First Tuesday reciepts are down 42% from The Force Awakens.

http://www.showbiz411.com...ce-awakens

djThunderfunk said:

Some have said the fanboys don't matter, but, as fanboys are often the most likely to go back to the theater to see a Star Wars movie multiple times, it seems they do matter. First Tuesday reciepts are down 42% from The Force Awakens.

http://www.showbiz411.com...ce-awakens

Exactamundo.

UncleJam said:

djThunderfunk said:

Some have said the fanboys don't matter, but, as fanboys are often the most likely to go back to the theater to see a Star Wars movie multiple times, it seems they do matter. First Tuesday reciepts are down 42% from The Force Awakens.

http://www.showbiz411.com...ce-awakens

Exactamundo.

V 's gross receipts adjusted for inflation were $704.2M. IV did $1.3B adjusted for inflation.

VIII will do the same vis-a-vis VII. It will make about half of what the last one did.

[Edited 12/21/17 11:54am]

But... The Empire Strikes Back was good.

Dasein said:

Wonder if Carrie Fisher's Daughter will have a bigger role in the next movie

Nice to see them together again after all these years

Terrible movie. Worse than that awful The Force Awakens.

Adisa said:

Terrible movie. Worse than that awful The Force Awakens.

Adisa said:

Terrible movie. Worse than that awful The Force Awakens.

Well, your a terrible movie! (yes spelled you're wrong) There will be NO Power Converters for you this Christmas!

I thought it was pretty good. Similar to what James Whale did in BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN


The film canon itself is mostly adhered to. People are "talked of" having this and that force ability...which is seemingly legendary. I can imagine that Luke "in (self imposed) exile" would have had his ties to his family and been meditating if not participating in their actions over the time anyways.... maybe he just learned something lone forgotten or suggested. Maybe it was that noxious, potent green lactose?

Either way...Rian managed to adhere to Lucas's method of interspersing real time issues under the cover of the fantasy dirge... Weaponization, merchants, wealth, lies, manipulations, all while clearly pointing the finger at the who's.... (America.. as I'd said when I first saw the trailer "eons"(?)ago.... "Oh great (sigh).... they're doing the American flag bit")

yes, the sandy desert of warfare = USA.

And if it wasn't BIG and SUBTLE enough... they even had 13, THIRTEEN flagships resisting...

(which is ludicrous if you study "history".. cause the native people were decimated and the 13 initial colonies weren't necessarily about....oh...well... nevermind... this'll cause backlash again)

....either way, as hinted with throwing out the ONENESS of the force (they really didn't, Luke just suggests that its selfish and arrogant to think they should be the only wielders of it)they hint at "out of many, one" etc and all that. Contemporizing stuff... just like the "body politic usurped and manipulated by aggressors" (Bush) in AOTC..

I've got to keep it simple and short thanks to the page's time out issues and the fact that I can't cut and paste this entire thing from an outside source....

THe film dragged in the middle.. (or it could have been the heavy work potluck breakfast I had an hour earlier)..and I even took a minute nod out during "Rey's" EMpire "know thyself" scene.... Been there done that.



I though there were too many instances of thrown in humor/pastiche... but I guess that's what you do now... make ample laughs to keep the kids awake. (but doesn't that also detract from the story?)

Favorite one was the Iron... I totally was hoping they'd do that once I saw it...and the payoff was great. Sadly, I think I was the only one who laughed in the theater... I think it went over their head.. that it was a dig at the series itself..

Luke nursing on alien breastmilk? Very odd.. but considering he was an exiled hermit ....he probably plugs those same creatures at night...u never know.

Maybe it's hallucinogenic.

EIther way it was an interesting film.

I feel for the other person who said "What the hell is Chewbacca even doin in this film anyways???".... You have a point... except maybe he wants revenge for Han. That's all I can muster. Either that or he's getting paid.


CONS:

Rey: Still a terrible actress
Conmander Art History Teacher Hipster Pseudo Lezzie: I didn't like her. I saw the kamikaze thing coming...and I'm glad they did that. But I get it... chalk it up to fem dom. Nice and a bit pandering....especially the extended hand holding... Not sure if Carrie was on board with that...but she'd probably get a kick out of the suggested bit that it'd be useful in future film reels about lesbians.
BB-8.... probably couldn't have gotten INTO that AT ST...I would have thought he/she/it would have merely just hacked into their systems and done it remotely.

TOO MUCH MAZ KANATA: Am I the only one who hates this character? This stupid Orange Yoda piece of CGI drivel that serves to conveniently tied up loose ends is the worst character since the COUGHING semi mech "Grievous"...her scene in this film makes me fear they're trudging into godawful "japanimation" zones... ugh.

SPACE "BOMBERS" WOULDN'T FUNCTION WITHOUT EXCEPTIONAL GRAVITY. (period)

Same goes for when "admiral Hold-o" takes down the fleet... those fires would extinguish rapidly.


***THESE STUPID DICKENSIAN NAMES FOR EVERYBODY!!!!*** STOP IT!!!***

while it used to be reserved for the Sith and "baddies" this is now extending to stupid names like


Admiral Holdo = Admiral Holds Own... She holds her own... GUUUUURRL POWER!!
Kylo Ren = bastardized STAR WARS ANAGRAM = KNY LORE = Knight's Lore = His reverence for the esteem of the old Jedi Knights/possibly the continuing saga with Luke's Saber coming out in the next episode as gay.
Maz Kanata = Bastardized Anagram time again = Ma's Kantana = CANTINA (bar owner) = lazy writing

REY= LIGHT/RAY

What next? = Jess Kurray? (courageous?)
Bullquent Allishormo? = QUestionable Hormones the FIRST PANDERING LGBT STAR WARS CHARACTER!.....

Stil it's a better name than the blatant = Dickpuss.

in other fun... Joseph Gorden Levitt... gets his fun with a voice portrayal of "Slowen Lo"....er jokingly "Swollen, Low"

Anyways... I don't have time to delve further.

BUT(!!) I think it'd be refreshing to have a character named "Vinnie"

I can't decide if the return of puppet Yoda is good or bad... I think his jaw was too fat... other than that it was very good... I enjoyed that bit of humor and "letting go"... It seemed sensible.

I'd give it a B+... it entertained me... BUT it did have a terrible arc. The film hit its peak in the 3rd quarter. Didn't finish strong.


Since everybody else is doing it:

rate:

EMPIRE STRIKES BACK

A NEW HOPE

RETURN OF THE JEDI

ATTACK OF THE CLONES (if you count ROGUE ONE...it goes here at a tie...secondary characters, but a great story)
THE PHANTOM MENACE

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>>>>>wait for it....>>>>>

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...REVENGE OF THE SHIT

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THE FORCE WEAKENS... (*UTTER PIECE OF CRAP, PANDERING, RIP OFF, PLAGIARISED BULLSHIT*)

[Edited 12/22/17 9:44am]

lust said:

^ Just on the whole space physics bit. Star Wars has never been good at that but the space bombers part is not a problem as the dreadnought was hovering (not in orbit), which is a technology that all Star Wars vehicles have long been established to have, above the planet of D’qar so the bombs would free fall towards the planet.

it would have been easy to put small jets on them and have the fly down

OnlyNDaUsa said:

lust said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

it would have been easy to put small jets on them and have the fly down

I don’t understand what you’re saying.

just make them rockets and not round bombs

Mark Hamill's reaction to Luke Skywalker in TLJ, from Huffington Post:

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"Jedis dont give up. I mean, even if he had a problem, he would maybe take a year to try and regroup, but if he made a mistake he would try and right that wrong, so right there, we had a fundamental difference, but it's not my story anymore. I almost had to think of Luke as another character. Maybe he's Jake Skywalker, he's not my Luke Skywalker."

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This is what the "silly nerds" are complaining about. It's not just goofy guys who are claiming their childhood was stolen...even the actor had serious misgivings, that Johnson was crapping all over decades of established SW lore. That wasnt my issue with the movie (I liked it, just not the direction the saga is headed in), but it is a very legitimate gripe.

[Edited 12/22/17 14:25pm]

OnlyNDaUsa said:

UncleJam said:

Frankly I was more upset when they killed Han Solo.

I get where Mark Hammil is coming from but I interpreted Luke's bitterness as stemming from his idealism. He is right that Luke was always optimistic but when the dark side surfaced yet again within his family right under his nose it may have been the last straw that caused Luke to withdraw. I can't think of any other motivation that Rian may have had in mind for taking that direction.

It seems that the main thing Disney has accomplished so far is to remove every strong character that was key to the foundation of Star Wars but Im not sure what purpose that serves? The uncertainty of many fans will stem from the fact that the Disney-esque films have thus far failed to replace the core characters with equally strong new personalities. Neither Rey, Kylo or Finn have lived up to the personas of Luke, Leia or Han, etc. Hell BB8 doesn't even live up to R2D2, I already mentioned the Voldemort-like characature of Snoke.

Shit made me miss General Grevious, I kid you not!

That's why I can't get into this stuff on a fanboy level. Even Mark Hamill implied that he eventually went along with the program because it serves the bottom line and we all know what that is.

http://www.newsweek.com/m...son-757329

I'm right there with you guys, really didnt have a problem with the portrayal of Luke Skywalker in TLJ...I can see why he went into hiding. The only issue I had is that the Luke I know would have left with Rey, especially after she gave him the exact same argument that Luke gave folks in ROTJ....that there was still good in Vader (Kylo), and that he could be saved. How could Luke forget that? Still...I didnt have that much of a problem with it.

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My problem is that I didnt realize that Disney is using this trilogy to tie up and end the Skywalker saga. Apparently, their plan was to focus on each of the original trilogy characters....TFA focused on Han Solo, TLJ focused on Luke, and Ep IX was supposed to focus on Leia, and then the Skywalker family is completely gone from SW, the new trilogy that Rian Johnson has signed on for is a SW story that has nothing to do with the Skywalkers. NO THANK YOU! Being a fanboy myself, who spent a lot of money collecting every SW book in the 90s/00s, who read the story of Han and Leia's twins, of Luke's son Ben....to see Disney go in a completely diffferent direction breaks my heart. I can understand maybe tweaking the story a bit, not doing exactly what happened in the expanded universe novels, but to completely shut down the Skywalker story....as Vader said in ROTS...."NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

UncleJam said:

UncleJam said:

TrevorAyer said:

i said on my other thread - i thought the low for me was yoda s appearance ... cant they make that yoda thing look half decent ????

i agree with alot of what has been said .... i was kinda left with the feeling that ... wow ... i got so UP for this movie and they worked on it for so long ... and this is what they came up with ???

i think if Luke as a charactor was going to go away to a planet and be like that .... i think they would have thought more into it ... and why he was there .... instead of just being a hermit ... maybe make it that he was trying to come up with a way to defeat snoke ....

but in the end the snoke demise is kinda silly ... but a surprise and i think that is why we go to movies .... now Kylo is in charge etc ...

purple hair said "god's speed" is that odd?


I also want to know if GONK was in it!

ColAngus said: