kpowers said:

IstenSzek said:

dang kpowers, you're knowledge is impressive and you're right, in the time line,
they should stick to the species and races we know of. ps: great collection of pics

i just keep forgetting that this is a prequel since the tech looks so advanced. it will be
a little while before i'm automatically placing it as the first one in the timeline, in my
own head.

To be honest I did not know the bald lady from the Motion picture was called the Deltans, just always called her the bald lady.

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fair enough

morningsong said:

I really liked the concept of the Xindi, 5 (1 extinct) separate "intellectual" species evolving and co-existing on one planet. One annoying thing about all scifi, everybody on every planet either looks the same, share the same culture or there are only 2 separate cultures which are fighting each other.

Xindi-Avian

The skull of a Xindi-Avian (2154)

"My grandfather lived there. He told me of places where the sky was sometimes filled with Avians."

- Gralik Durr, 2153 (ENT: "The Shipment")

The Xindi-Avian species was an extinct member of the Xindi race, wiped out during a series of civil wars which was fought between the six Xindi species and which destroyed their homeworld, sometime in the 2030s. As far as known, none of the Avians fled before their homeworld was destroyed.

Gralik Durr grandfather, who had resided on Xindus, remembered a time before the planet's destruction when Avians occasionally flocked overhead, filling the sky. (ENT: "The Shipment") A Xindi-Reptilian lieutenant once speculated that, if the Guardians had given the Reptilians dominance over the other Xindi species prior to the wars, their "Avian brothers would still fill the skies." (ENT: "Zero Hour")

The remains of an Avian settlement were found on a planet that dated back to the 2nd millennium BC. The ruins of the settlement were used for the meeting place of the Xindi Council. A skull of an Avian was kept at the Council's location. Commander Dolim commented that the Council chamber had "the stench of the Avians' failure to survive." (ENT: "The Council")

The "only known" illustration of a Xindi-Avian, according to Star Trek: Federation - The First 150 Years

The Xindi-Avians were originally devised as a sixth member of the Xindi Council, though this idea was discarded due to uncertainties concerning how to actualize them as physical designs. Executive Producer Brannon Braga explained, "We did [consider avians, or bird people, among the original five], but we thought two CGIs [the Xindi-Aquatics and Insectoids] were enough – and you don't want to do actors as bird people." (Star Trek: Communicator issue 149, p. 50) To represent a Xindi-Avian skull in "The Council" (described in the episode's final draft script as "the petrified skull of an Avian"), a model replica of a giraffe skull was used. [1]

According to the reference book Star Trek: Federation - The First 150 Years (pp. 57, 56, 53 & 52), the Xindi-Avians were the only Xindi species that did not trust nor believe stories from the duplicitous Sphere-Builders. The book contains an illustration of an Avian, which the publication describes as "the only known image" of a member of the species, and an historical writing involving an encounter between an Arboreal child named J'Acov and an Avian, on the final day of the Xindi homeworld. Apparently written by J'Acov, the account details how, having climbed up a remarkably thin stalk to reach the doorway of an Avian home, J'Acov saw the Avian fly directly at him, land on one of several thick vines surrounding the dwelling, then ask, talking in a harsh rasp, "Why have thee invaded my home?" The document also mentions many nightmare tales, all of which had been heard by J'Acov, of angry Avians plucking Arboreal children from their homes.

Xindi-Avian

kpowers said:

djThunderfunk said:

Cool! Been looking forward to this. You guys got me hooked! (Thanks for that, BTW).

Most welcomed. Please watch the episode soon, I don't want to give away any spoilers.

Good episode. Can't wait for the conclusion. Next month?

djThunderfunk said:

kpowers said:

Most welcomed. Please watch the episode soon, I don't want to give away any spoilers.

Good episode. Can't wait for the conclusion. Next month?

Not sure, I'll let you guys know if I find out. Let me know if you find out as well.

OK since morningsongand djthunderfunk seen the latest episode of Star trek continues we can now talk about it.

To Boldly Go: Part I

Well it seems like they are going full circle since they are continuing from the episode of "Where no man has gone before". From what I read this is the second pilot they shot for NBC of Star Trek. This is why the clothes and bridge looks like that of Captain Pike in the episode "The Cage"

There was no Dr. McCoy in the episode of "Where no man has gone before", they had Dr. Piper

Watching that episode it has a different feel to it. Scotty and Sulu were in that episode but they just stood on the bridge and they seem more like extras then cast members.

This is how Discovery should look like. Well NBC thought this episode didn't have enough action in it so they decided to air the "Man Trap" as the first episode then "Charlie X" thus making "Where no man has gone before" the third episode but in reality this is Captain Kirk's first mission.

OK had no Idea Smith was the same character from "Where no man has gone before". I think in both shows Captain Kirk calls her Jones. I'm guessing after they shot "Where no man has gone before" they did alot of set/clothes/casting changes and they replaced Smith with Rand

I'm guessing the Romulan Commander they had in the latest episode of Star Trek continues is from the episode "The Enterprise Incident", good casting, looks like the original actress that played the part.

My only complaint is that they killed off LT. Drake, only because the show is coming to an end, can't wait till part 2.

With most of the Starships destroyed I bet in part 2 they will show the new fleet when the series ends.

morningsong said:

I rewatched WNMHGB just to see if Mitchell was holding Smith's hand when they crossed the barrier. When he was James R. Kirk. Didn't know this was the 2nd pilot. Explans the middle name and why no Dr McCoy. I also see TNG has a WNMHGB episode haven't rewatched that one but im guessing it when they went to the edge of the universe.

morningsong said:

Oh boy, that was pretty good. Can't wait for the conclusion. I'm going to miss this series when it's done. I watched Vic's explanation. Somebody always push the envelope too far and ends up screwing everybody else in the process. I'm glad they at least get to finish.

oh please explain!!!!!!!!!! I know CBS came out with rules with on how fan films are to be made.

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kpowers said:

kpowers said:

morningsong said:

kpowers said:

oh please explain!!!!!!!!!! I know CBS came out with rules with on how fan films are to be made.

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He didn't go into any of CBS new rulings. But the original rules were that no fanbased productions could personally profit from making ST productions. Turns out Anaxar wasn't using the money they raised from crowd funding only for the movie, they were doing other things with the funds including what looked like setting up their own private production company. CBS sued, won, and rules changed, so ends a lot of new fanbased productions

But what did Vic say about people screwing things up??????

Wonder if Mitchell is still alive??

kpowers said:

morningsong said:

kpowers said:

But what did Vic say about people screwing things up??????

My twist on it. Listen to his words maybe you'll see it different.

So blaming Anaxar

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kpowers said:

morningsong said:

kpowers said: My twist on it. Listen to his words maybe you'll see it different.

So blaming Anaxar

[Edited 10/23/17 9:58am]

Well if they didn't spend the money like they originally said they were, then I guess the blame would fall on them. There's no movie and now all the rules changed.

OK morningsong any guesses on the last episode of Star Trek Continues??????????

kpowers said:

OK morningsong any guesses on the last episode of Star Trek Continues??????????

It'll have to be a memorable one. I think it's going to be the bulk of their budget. Outside of that I'm stumped, how about you?

I didn't know the "counselor" was Vic's wife. Ha. I like the spin, it makes it their own and adds a bit of TNG to it.

morningsong said:

kpowers said:

OK morningsong any guesses on the last episode of Star Trek Continues??????????

It'll have to be a memorable one. I think it's going to be the bulk of their budget. Outside of that I'm stumped, how about you?

I think Gary Mitchell is alive. I also think they are going to have the next generation of ships to come out. Also they will also have new uniforms.

morningsong said:

I didn't know the "counselor" was Vic's wife. Ha. I like the spin, it makes it their own and adds a bit of TNG to it.

Didn't know that. Did they meet on the set??????

kpowers said:

morningsong said:

I didn't know the "counselor" was Vic's wife. Ha. I like the spin, it makes it their own and adds a bit of TNG to it.

Didn't know that. Did they meet on the set??????

No, they were married before they started STC, he knows Marina and his wife is a big TNG fan, so they came up with a plausible storyline, with her being like the experimental ship's counselor since TNG had them on all their ships. It had to start somewhere between the 2 shows.

morningsong said:

Benson and Star Trek

morningsong said:

I rewatched WNMHGB just to see if Mitchell was holding Smith's hand when they crossed the barrier. When he was James R. Kirk. Didn't know this was the 2nd pilot. Explans the middle name and why no Dr McCoy. I also see TNG has a WNMHGB episode haven't rewatched that one but im guessing it when they went to the edge of the universe.

And no Uhura as well

lust said:

morningsong said:

S3E8

For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky.



The Enterprise must deflect an asteroid on a collision course with an inhabited planet...but discover the asteroid is a spaceship with a population unaware of the outside world.

That’s pretty much the exact plot of The Orville episode 4.

And episode 2 of The Orville was pretty much the same plot of "The eye of the beholder" on the animated series

morningsong said:

I really liked the concept of the Xindi, 5 (1 extinct) separate "intellectual" species evolving and co-existing on one planet. One annoying thing about all scifi, everybody on every planet either looks the same, share the same culture or there are only 2 separate cultures which are fighting each other.

Well it's hard to do just one episode to tackle that subject. Enterprise had a whole season explaining the races that made up the Xindi.

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kpowers said: