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Thread started 08/01/17 4:52pm

morningsong

What Happens Next If We Find Proof of Space Aliens?

Yes, I'm bored. Yes, I believe there's (intelligent) life elsewhere. No I don't believe that they've crashed landed here; are in contact with our governments or kidnapping people for experiments.




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A lot of people think there is a plan. A secret one. A recent survey indicated that 55 percent of the population figure that the discovery of extraterrestrials would be squelched — deep-sixed to prevent widespread panic. Only 19 percent believe the feds would fess up to E.T.’s existence.

Such a cover-up would be virtually impossible to pull off. There’s no policy of secrecy, and verifying the signal would involve teams of scientists around the world. But leaving that aside, the fact that so many folks believe it's in the works attests to a discouraging lack of trust in both science and the public’s ability to handle the news.

So what’s the truth about what would happen if we discovered intelligent aliens? Back in 1989, when a now-defunct NASA program to search for extraterrestrial intelligence was gaining steam, protocols were drafted to spell out best practices in case the search proved successful. These were later updated and streamlined by the International Academy of Astronautics SETI Permanent Committee.

There are really only three important components to this two-page text. First, the detection of alien life should be carefully verified by repeated observations. Second, the discovery should be publicized. Third, no response should be sent without international consultation.

All that sounds both tame and sane. But there’s an implicit assumption here: namely, that picking up signals from another world will be a Hollywood moment. We assume that it will play out the way it so often does in the movies: stuporous scientists, settling in for another decade or two of fruitless search, are suddenly jolted into wild-eyed excitement as a signal lights up their equipment. Then they spend about 10 minutes turning knobs and shouting at one another, after which they presumably reach into a desk drawer and pull out the protocols.

Actually, they never take this last step in the movies. And they wouldn’t do it in real life either. In the many years of SETI efforts, there have been numerous false alarms in addition to the three noted at the top of this article. And what happens every time is that the media immediately start reporting the story. There is almost always a bit of sensationalism and a few garbled facts, but the news is out there long before the researchers have managed to verify the signal, as specified by the protocols.

That’s the truth of the matter. Really, it is. Sure, speaking of “protocols” has a certain gravitas, but these would only work for a Hollywood-style discovery.
But there’s a deeper question here — one that’s much harder to answer: what would be the long-term effect of learning we’re not alone? Would we give up religion? Would we stop waging war? Would we cower in the face of possible interstellar aggression?


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Reply #2 posted 08/01/17 8:01pm

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Alright 'Stephen' knock it off. wink
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Reply #3 posted 08/01/17 8:59pm

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There is intelligent life (aliens) do visit Earth. But governments cover up stuff so folks don't know the truth lol

Humans are not the only life forms in this or other solar systems lol

Is is possible that humans came from another planet??? hmmm

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Reply #4 posted 08/01/17 10:00pm

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morningsong said:

Yes, I'm bored. Yes, I believe there's (intelligent) life elsewhere. No I don't believe that they've crashed landed here; kidnapping people for experiments.



Wow surprised by that. I believe they been here for a very long time and been taking people for a very long time. I aslo believe there are different aliens from different planets, like Star Trek (had to throw in a Star Trek reference in this thread) The grey's and the reptilians are the most mentioned

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Reply #5 posted 08/01/17 10:07pm

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morningsong said:


Yes, I'm bored. Yes, I believe there's (intelligent) life elsewhere. No I don't believe that they've crashed landed here; kidnapping people for experiments.





Wow surprised by that. I believe they been here for a very long time and been taking people for a very long time. I aslo believe there are different aliens from different planets, like Star Trek (had to throw in a Star Trek reference in this thread) The grey's and the reptilians are the most mentioned


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Yep I know folks believe it. I'm not saying a word about it.
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Some possible good news. Besides taking people it is also believed that Aliens have been taking animals as well. So they could have taken some of our extinct animals. So it's possible that the dodo bird or the Wolly mammoth could still be alive, living on another Earth like planet.

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Reply #7 posted 08/01/17 10:10pm

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Some possible good news. Besides taking people it is also believed that Aliens have been taking animals as well. So they could have taken some of our extinct animals. So it's possible that the dodo bird or the Wolly mammoth could still be alive, living on another Earth like planet.


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That would be an interesting discovery.
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KingBAD said:


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Reply #10 posted 08/02/17 12:55am

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Considering the size of space and that there are more planets than there are numbers, it would be incredibly arrogant to assume that Earth is the only one with intelligent life. So of course aliens exist. I don't believe any have ever come to earth though and they most likely never will.
Practically speaking, that kind of space travel is a really difficult hurdle to overcome. They'd have to travel immeasurable distances to get here. Even travelling at the speed of light could take millions of years to reach earth. But assuming they've figured out a better way, manipulating wormholes or whatever, the question then would be; why would they want to come here? They have the ability travel to anywhere in the galaxy, I don't see Earth as much of a tourist destination. We don't have anything they'd want. Besides, even if they did want to visit Earth and take selfies in front of the Statue of Liberty, our solar system might be far to cold or too hot for them to survive.

There's just so many potential issues that could arise that would make it impossible for aliens to visit. And even if it was possible, why would they want to come here? Most of the people here don't want to be here so how do we entice intergalactic visitors, who have the entire universe available to them, to come.
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EmmaMcG said:

Considering the size of space and that there are more planets than there are numbers, it would be incredibly arrogant to assume that Earth is the only one with intelligent life. So of course aliens exist. I don't believe any have ever come to earth though and they most likely never will. Practically speaking, that kind of space travel is a really difficult hurdle to overcome. They'd have to travel immeasurable distances to get here. Even travelling at the speed of light could take millions of years to reach earth. But assuming they've figured out a better way, manipulating wormholes or whatever, the question then would be; why would they want to come here? They have the ability travel to anywhere in the galaxy, I don't see Earth as much of a tourist destination. We don't have anything they'd want. Besides, even if they did want to visit Earth and take selfies in front of the Statue of Liberty, our solar system might be far to cold or too hot for them to survive. There's just so many potential issues that could arise that would make it impossible for aliens to visit. And even if it was possible, why would they want to come here? Most of the people here don't want to be here so how do we entice intergalactic visitors, who have the entire universe available to them, to come.

Well we are a water planet. Also many people believe that there are some alien races that abduct people because they need our DNA because their gene pool is corupted.

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EmmaMcG said:


Considering the size of space and that there are more planets than there are numbers, it would be incredibly arrogant to assume that Earth is the only one with intelligent life. So of course aliens exist. I don't believe any have ever come to earth though and they most likely never will. Practically speaking, that kind of space travel is a really difficult hurdle to overcome. They'd have to travel immeasurable distances to get here. Even travelling at the speed of light could take millions of years to reach earth. But assuming they've figured out a better way, manipulating wormholes or whatever, the question then would be; why would they want to come here? They have the ability travel to anywhere in the galaxy, I don't see Earth as much of a tourist destination. We don't have anything they'd want. Besides, even if they did want to visit Earth and take selfies in front of the Statue of Liberty, our solar system might be far to cold or too hot for them to survive. There's just so many potential issues that could arise that would make it impossible for aliens to visit. And even if it was possible, why would they want to come here? Most of the people here don't want to be here so how do we entice intergalactic visitors, who have the entire universe available to them, to come.

Well we are a water planet. Also many people believe that there are some alien races that abduct people because they need our DNA because their gene pool is corupted.



This isn't the only water based planet though. But it is one of the smallest so wouldn't they rather go to a bigger, non populated planet for all their watery needs? And if their technology has advanced as far as interstellar travel, wouldn't they have come up with an easier method of obtaining water than travelling through space to get it?

I don't think the DNA theory holds much water either. First of all, what's so special about our DNA that they'd need us. There are probably trillions of trillions of alien races out there, why are we so special. And IF we are special in any way, how would the aliens know about it? How would they have found out we existed and how would they know that it's our DNA they need? There are literally an infinite amount of places they could go and look, what's the odds they'd find us?
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EmmaMcG said:

kpowers said:

Well we are a water planet. Also many people believe that there are some alien races that abduct people because they need our DNA because their gene pool is corupted.

This isn't the only water based planet though. But it is one of the smallest so wouldn't they rather go to a bigger, non populated planet for all their watery needs? And if their technology has advanced as far as interstellar travel, wouldn't they have come up with an easier method of obtaining water than travelling through space to get it? I don't think the DNA theory holds much water either. First of all, what's so special about our DNA that they'd need us. There are probably trillions of trillions of alien races out there, why are we so special. And IF we are special in any way, how would the aliens know about it? How would they have found out we existed and how would they know that it's our DNA they need? There are literally an infinite amount of places they could go and look, what's the odds they'd find us?

The same odds as any other planet. Maybe they can't go everywhere in the universe. They could have some future plans for the Earth.

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I highly, highly advise you to read "The Thiaoouba Prophecy"

literally all these questions you all asked are answered in this very interesting book from 1993. It's available free online at: http://rune.galactic.to/thaoeng.html

According to the book. We as a human race came here a long time ago from another planet which was cooling, left and came back again after several cataclysms on Earth, surviving one last major Earth event. It also says, some had tried set up on mars when that planet actually still had some water and plants on it, before that also 'cooled'. Our races have developed and developed over a million of generations.


The book explains other alien life come here to harvest resorces from their palnet(s) which are dying, study life and monitor the damage we have done to this planet. The book describes an event for example from the "Project Ford Experiment" in 1963 in which the US Military pushed out over 400 million space needles into Earth.

Q. What do you know about the needles, which the people from Thiaoouba have removed twice from their orbit around Earth ?
A. There are some huge installations in Alaska, capable of sending microwave and other radiation into space for military purposes - communication as well as direct weapons. Using them, it is possible to create nuclear-like (neutron beam) high intensity radiation without actually exploding a bomb. Needles in space were supposed to reflect this radiation to a specified target. (I have read some info about it a few years ago, before I read The Book. [Tom])

Scientific American, August 1998 (Vol 279, Number 2, article by N.L.Johnson, Page 43, (63 in US edition?!)) explains :

"80 clumps of needles (were) released in May 1963 as part of a US Department of Defense telecommunication experiment. The radiation pressure exerted by sunlight (???) was to have pushed the tiny needles - all 400 million of them - out of orbit ..."

Show me anything else in the Universe that has been pushed out of orbit by the "pressure of sunlight". Why do we use rockets then? Even if one needle is only 0.1 gram - 400 million of them is 40 tonnes !!! I challenge every scientist on Earth to explain how "the pressure of sunlight" can displace 40 tonnes of metal.

The removal of the needles was an intelligent intervention, demonstrating unsurpassed technological possibilities of the people of Thiaoouba. What do you do if your kids play with matches in their room?



There are many things to learn about the history of Earth, religion, science and biology including its relation to the Spirit and the Higher Selves.

I highly recommend it.

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Q. What about Grays and other aliens seen on Earth ?

A. There are some races of people on a similar level of mentality to ours, visiting us on Earth. Michel was given telepathic permission from Thiaoouba in 1995 to talk about Grays in front of TV cameras in the USA. Gray people are from a "planet of sorrows" too, and on their own planet they have completely lost their immune system, as a consequence of their "civilized" activities. Simply speaking they are going extinct very quickly.

They have the technology to come to Earth and they come here to watch the reactions of our immune system, because we just started loosing ours in 1948. They hope, that by observing our reactions they can help themselves. They have implanted about 150 people world-wide (not 5 million as some say) with monitoring devices. People from Thiaoouba watch this activity too and clearly say that there is no danger.

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Reply #16 posted 08/02/17 10:23am

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They don't come from 'space' -- they are Interdemensional Beings.

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Reply #17 posted 08/02/17 11:23am

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What do you say to them? Hi?


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Reply #18 posted 08/02/17 11:42am

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What do you say to them? Hi?


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kpowers said:

Well we are a water planet. Also many people believe that there are some alien races that abduct people because they need our DNA because their gene pool is corupted.

This isn't the only water based planet though. But it is one of the smallest so wouldn't they rather go to a bigger, non populated planet for all their watery needs? And if their technology has advanced as far as interstellar travel, wouldn't they have come up with an easier method of obtaining water than travelling through space to get it? I don't think the DNA theory holds much water either. First of all, what's so special about our DNA that they'd need us. There are probably trillions of trillions of alien races out there, why are we so special. And IF we are special in any way, how would the aliens know about it? How would they have found out we existed and how would they know that it's our DNA they need? There are literally an infinite amount of places they could go and look, what's the odds they'd find us?

Just thought of 2 ways Aliens can find us. One is that the Earth is broad casting TV and Radio signals into outer space. The other is the Voyager probes that were launched in the late 70's. Each Voyager space probe carries a gold-plated audio-visual disc in the event that either spacecraft is ever found by intelligent life-forms from other planetary systems.[41] The discs carry photos of the Earth and its lifeforms, a range of scientific information, spoken greetings from the people (e.g. the Secretary-General of the United Nations and the President of the United States, and the children of the Planet Earth) and a medley, "Sounds of Earth", that includes the sounds of whales, a baby crying, waves breaking on a shore, and a collection of music, including works by Mozart, Blind Willie Johnson, Chuck Berry's "Johnny B. Goode", Valya Balkanska and other Eastern and Western classics and ethnic performers.[42] (see also Music in space)

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Honestly I don't like the idea that NASA put that disc in the Voyager probe with our location and information about the Earth. They assume that peaceful Aliens will find it.

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EmmaMcG said:


kpowers said:


Well we are a water planet. Also many people believe that there are some alien races that abduct people because they need our DNA because their gene pool is corupted.



This isn't the only water based planet though. But it is one of the smallest so wouldn't they rather go to a bigger, non populated planet for all their watery needs? And if their technology has advanced as far as interstellar travel, wouldn't they have come up with an easier method of obtaining water than travelling through space to get it? I don't think the DNA theory holds much water either. First of all, what's so special about our DNA that they'd need us. There are probably trillions of trillions of alien races out there, why are we so special. And IF we are special in any way, how would the aliens know about it? How would they have found out we existed and how would they know that it's our DNA they need? There are literally an infinite amount of places they could go and look, what's the odds they'd find us?

Just thought of 2 ways Aliens can find us. One is that the Earth is broad casting TV and Radio signals into outer space. The other is the Voyager probes that were launched in the late 70's. Each Voyager space probe carries a gold-plated audio-visual disc in the event that either spacecraft is ever found by intelligent life-forms from other planetary systems.[41] The discs carry photos of the Earth and its lifeforms, a range of scientific information, spoken greetings from the people (e.g. the Secretary-General of the United Nations and the President of the United States, and the children of the Planet Earth) and a medley, "Sounds of Earth", that includes the sounds of whales, a baby crying, waves breaking on a shore, and a collection of music, including works by Mozart, Blind Willie Johnson, Chuck Berry's "Johnny B. Goode", Valya Balkanska and other Eastern and Western classics and ethnic performers.[42] (see also Music in space)



It's still very unlikely those discs will ever be found. It's like looking for the world's smallest needle in the world's biggest haystack. And if they were found, who says that the aliens would know how to use them. Their technology would be a lot different to ours. And I don't think the radio signals from earth would reach any alien ears, unfortunately.

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Reply #22 posted 08/02/17 2:28pm

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Both Voyagers are still communicating with NASA daily, even after almost (this year) 40 years. Both are still within the solar system. It'll still take another 40,000 years for either of them to reach the closest star.


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kpowers said:

Just thought of 2 ways Aliens can find us. One is that the Earth is broad casting TV and Radio signals into outer space. The other is the Voyager probes that were launched in the late 70's. Each Voyager space probe carries a gold-plated audio-visual disc in the event that either spacecraft is ever found by intelligent life-forms from other planetary systems.[41] The discs carry photos of the Earth and its lifeforms, a range of scientific information, spoken greetings from the people (e.g. the Secretary-General of the United Nations and the President of the United States, and the children of the Planet Earth) and a medley, "Sounds of Earth", that includes the sounds of whales, a baby crying, waves breaking on a shore, and a collection of music, including works by Mozart, Blind Willie Johnson, Chuck Berry's "Johnny B. Goode", Valya Balkanska and other Eastern and Western classics and ethnic performers.[42] (see also Music in space)

It's still very unlikely those discs will ever be found. It's like looking for the world's smallest needle in the world's biggest haystack. And if they were found, who says that the aliens would know how to use them. Their technology would be a lot different to ours. And I don't think the radio signals from earth would reach any alien ears, unfortunately. I'm a tough girl to please, kpowers. Very tough smile

Well those are two possibilities. Never say never, but yeah I doubt the Voyager probes will be discovered in our life time. However Radio/TV signals have been broad casting out into the universe since the 40's/50's and travels at a faster rate.

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kpowers said:

EmmaMcG said:

kpowers said: It's still very unlikely those discs will ever be found. It's like looking for the world's smallest needle in the world's biggest haystack. And if they were found, who says that the aliens would know how to use them. Their technology would be a lot different to ours. And I don't think the radio signals from earth would reach any alien ears, unfortunately. I'm a tough girl to please, kpowers. Very tough smile

Well those are two possibilities. Never say never, but yeah I doubt the Voyager probes will be discovered in our life time. However Radio/TV signals have been broad casting out into the universe since the 40's/50's and travels at a faster rate.



This is what I was told.

1. The signals can only travel at the speed of light meaning they've only gone 50 to 60 light years from Earth.

2. Those signals can fade with time since the signals aren't that strong to begin with. Think the amount of light the Sun puts out and it is only a tiny dot in the sky even at the edge of our solar system.

3. One must have the correct receiver pointed in the correct direction to pick them up.

4. They have to translate it with absolutely no "rosetta stone" to understand what it means

5. They have to be advanced enough to travel faster than the speed of light to get here once they've picked up the signal and translated it, or else they'll be decades getting here.

6. Anything closer and that advanced we'd have detected them by now because we sure have been looking and even we can't even think of getting to them, let alone communicate, so simply being able to detect a signal isn't enough.

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kpowers said:

Well those are two possibilities. Never say never, but yeah I doubt the Voyager probes will be discovered in our life time. However Radio/TV signals have been broad casting out into the universe since the 40's/50's and travels at a faster rate.



This is what I was told.

1. The signals can only travel at the speed of light meaning they've only gone 50 to 60 light years from Earth.

2. Those signals can fade with time since the signals aren't that strong to begin with. Think the amount of light the Sun puts out and it is only a tiny dot in the sky even at the edge of our solar system.

3. One must have the correct receiver pointed in the correct direction to pick them up.

4. They have to translate it with absolutely no "rosetta stone" to understand what it means

5. They have to be advanced enough to travel faster than the speed of light to get here once they've picked up the signal and translated it, or else they'll be decades getting here.

6. Anything closer and that advanced we'd have detected them by now because we sure have been looking and even we can't even think of getting to them, let alone communicate, so simply being able to detect a signal isn't enough.

Oh you guys are so afraid of the Aliens coming here

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morningsong said:



This is what I was told.

1. The signals can only travel at the speed of light meaning they've only gone 50 to 60 light years from Earth.

2. Those signals can fade with time since the signals aren't that strong to begin with. Think the amount of light the Sun puts out and it is only a tiny dot in the sky even at the edge of our solar system.

3. One must have the correct receiver pointed in the correct direction to pick them up.

4. They have to translate it with absolutely no "rosetta stone" to understand what it means

5. They have to be advanced enough to travel faster than the speed of light to get here once they've picked up the signal and translated it, or else they'll be decades getting here.

6. Anything closer and that advanced we'd have detected them by now because we sure have been looking and even we can't even think of getting to them, let alone communicate, so simply being able to detect a signal isn't enough.

Oh you guys are so afraid of the Aliens coming here

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I ain't gonna lie. I see something like that I'm beating it over the head like Negan. It can start with all the "I come in peace" all it wants.

I don't think I'll make a good Earth ambassador. Better hope it won't be me in a first contact situation. My primitive side is gonna take over.








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as long as one species has a vagina..im there




Rikker is that you?



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Reply #29 posted 08/02/17 3:54pm

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kpowers said:

Oh you guys are so afraid of the Aliens coming here

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I ain't gonna lie. I see something like that I'm beating it over the head like Negan. It can start with all the "I come in peace" all it wants.

I don't think I'll make a good Earth ambassador. Better hope it won't be me in a first contact situation. My primitive side is gonna take over.








Yeah me too. Don't want the Aliens coming here. That's why I'm like let's not rock the boat by sending out probes telling them where we are, don't care how remote the possibility is. Also they don't need to able to translate what are TV/Radio signals are saying, it's a signal and that alone may peak their curiosity. Let's not forget their technology is way more advance then ours. I bet they could hide from any of our primitive detection systems.

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