Pan & Scan sucks rancid, bleached assholes!!! :X Widescreen only, please!

Pan & Scan sucks rancid, bleached assholes!!! :X Widescreen only, please!

CalhounSq said:

They bleach assholes in LA.

CalhounSq said:

squirming in chair after imagination gets hold of that sentence... yikes!

Am I the only one here who absolutely HATES movies that are not presented in letterbox format preserving the original cinematic aspect ratio?

I cannot stand it when movie companies butcher movies and destroy the cinematography by cropping the damned thing or doing pan and scan. They should NEVER destroy a movie by cutting anything from it...

Have you ever noticed how much picture is missing when you see a "standard" picture versus a cinematic aspect letterbox picture? There is so much picture missing on some of them that it destroys the feel of the scene.

For those of you who love movies and buy DVDs, please support the director's vision and do not buy butchered copies... I will ONLY buy LETTERBOXED editions if they are available and often times I will not even buy a movie if it is not released in letterbox format.

Anamorphic Letterbox movies that are enhanced for 16:9 televisions are my favorite, as I have a 65" 16:9 HDTV.

All the DVD signals are sent through a Faroudja de-interlacer, line-doubler as well.

Who is with me on this?

EDIT: Aspect ratios below

Here are examples of aspect ratios:

Standard 4:3 TV:



1.33:1



1.85:1



2.35:1

Widescreen 16:9 TV:



1.33:1



1.85:1



2.35:1
...
[This message was edited Wed Oct 16 19:41:16 PDT 2002 by IceNine]

These animated GIFs show the lost information on Standard/Pan and Scan DVDs versus Letterbox:

which begs the question i've always wondered... what aspect ratio were all of prince's major film releases filmed in?

IceNine said:

IceNine said:

Conclusive proof!
pan and scan sucks donkey ass...it's official!

only child haters love pan & scan
you don't hate children now do you?

BorisFishpaw said:

Correct!

If you buy Pan and Scan discs, you hate children!!!

the only problem with wide screen ntsc is the lack of resolution, you're actors' faces are divided into a few lines! But... hidef will take care of that.

In simple terms, movies are projected using larger frames of film than you see; the projector masks the top and bottom of the frame, creating the widescreen effect. This is why some movies are shown in theaters with people's heads or the subtitles cut off - there's extra movie at the top and the bottom.

Keep in mind that when you see a film in a theater, the exact framing is left to the whims of the projectionist. They can be adjusted.

For example:

(thanks Ice)

The actual film is as large as the entire box (both colors). When you reduce this to pan-and-scan, you're gettting about half the projected image, or about 25% of the actual film.

TheMico said:

Exactly... And well letterbox doesn't make the character fat (unless you use a wrong zooming option) and I know that a lot of people think the film ain't complete if there are bars... Sad but true they need their screen to be filled...

ufoclub said:

How come you have horizontal lines? I don't when a movie is widescreen and when I watch in my home theater room there is no line you can believe that it crystal clear...

You might have a line doubler system or progressive scan player to make it seem clear in your home theatre, but...

ntsc is the resolution of tv that was desided on back when tv first came out. it sucks. (the average best that you get form ntsc material is 720 by 480 pixels) no matter how good yur tv is,if its not hi-definition resoultion (1920 x 1080 pixels), it sucks compared to the true resoultion of a photographic image.

I have shot stuff in hi-def, and have done countless projects in regular ntsc, and there is a world of difference. Just walk up to your tv and look at the lines that make up the image. On true hidef or projected film, the resoution is much much greater resulting in a smooth image.

klaatu said:

ufoclub, how do you think the European PAL format stacks up to NTSC?

ufoclub said:

I admit i have a double liner system!!! But even without you should try with a laser disc: zoom it and you'll see the difference between a widescreen DVD and a letterbox LD... (though LD got a better sound due minor compression... I got PhantomMenca on LD and DVD and even if both versions are amazing you hear the difference...)... And yeah there is a diff between Hi-def and NTSC...
[This message was edited Fri Apr 11 13:37:22 PDT 2003 by klaatu]