kpowers said:

Just bought my ticket to meet Willam Shatner in August

Awesome.

I've never been out to any east or west coast comic-cons. Living in Minnesota makes that a little tough. Thanks to Wizard World, we at least get a halfway decent con each year. The best time was back in the 90s, though, when Creation would put on a couple of Star Trek cons each year in MPLS. I went to as many of those as I could, my first being in early 1989 with George Takei and Mark Lenard. Then in the late 90s they suddenly started passing on MPLS cons and it left a void that wasn't filled for years. I was able to go to Star Wars Celebration II and III in Indianapolis, but haven't been able to travel to any since due to the distances.

TMPletz said:

I've never been out to any east or west coast comic-cons. Living in Minnesota makes that a little tough. Thanks to Wizard World, we at least get a halfway decent con each year. The best time was back in the 90s, though, when Creation would put on a couple of Star Trek cons each year in MPLS. I went to as many of those as I could, my first being in early 1989 with George Takei and Mark Lenard. Then in the late 90s they suddenly started passing on MPLS cons and it left a void that wasn't filled for years. I was able to go to Star Wars Celebration II and III in Indianapolis, but haven't been able to travel to any since due to the distances.

Do they hold anything at the Mall of America????

kpowers said:

TMPletz said:

I've never been out to any east or west coast comic-cons. Living in Minnesota makes that a little tough. Thanks to Wizard World, we at least get a halfway decent con each year. The best time was back in the 90s, though, when Creation would put on a couple of Star Trek cons each year in MPLS. I went to as many of those as I could, my first being in early 1989 with George Takei and Mark Lenard. Then in the late 90s they suddenly started passing on MPLS cons and it left a void that wasn't filled for years. I was able to go to Star Wars Celebration II and III in Indianapolis, but haven't been able to travel to any since due to the distances.

Do they hold anything at the Mall of America????

They had "Star Trek: The Experience" there for a while which is only a touring prop and costume museum. I had seen it at the science museum in Michigan back in 2009 and it reached the MOA a couple of years later. A similar tour came through teh MOA under the name "Star Trek Earth Tour" back in July of 1994 in which one could also interact with Bajorans, Klingons, etc. Shatner had an autograph signing in the Rotunda of the MOA for his "Mind Meld" DVD featuring him and Leonard. Got my DVD signed and shook his hand. Otherwise, I haven't heard of anything else Trek related there. Certainly no conventions. Usually the bigger cons are held at the Minneapolis Convention Center. The Minneapolis Institute of Art held the "Star Wars: Magic of Myth" prop and costume tour back in 2000, and it returned at the science museum in a different version under the name "Star Wars: Where Science Meets Imagination" in 2008. Ah...good times.

By the way, if you haven't seen the new episode of "Star Trek Continues" yet...

https://youtu.be/GQeO5uuUbH4

TMPletz said:

By the way, if you haven't seen the new episode of "Star Trek Continues" yet...

https://youtu.be/GQeO5uuUbH4

Oh thanks for letting me know, been waiting for the next episode. Has Rekha Shama from the new Battlestar Galactica and the new V as a guest star

Yay!

morningsong said:

Yay!

I just watched the new episode, can't till the next

Well starting season 3 of Enterprise. Some changes I've noticed, opening theme song is a little bit faster tempo, T'pol hair is longer, didn't know Daniel Dae Kim appeared on Enterprise, knew he guest stared on Voyager

morningsong said:

Was there ever an explanation why T'pol was always in a form fitting jumpsuit? There was with 7 of 9, about her transitioning out of her borg implants. Even when T'Pol is around other Vulcans who seem to always be wearing loose fitting robes, she's in that jumpsuit. Even Deanna Fri wore other styles sometimes.

Good question, not sure. Well when T'pol was with the Vulcan high council and wore this uniform for the first 2 seasons

Season 3 the Vulcan high council order T'pol not to go in the Expanse to find the Xindi home world. T'pol did not want to return to Vulcan so she quit and then wore theses uniforms (guessing that's what civilian's wear on star ships)

Now season 4 in the alternate universe episode she wore these uniforms

I'm guessing for 7 of 9, also a civilian, wore the jump suits for the same reason

Now for Troi I remember there was an episode in which she explain why she could wear jump suits. Since her position on the ship was ship's councilor (a civilian position viewed by Star fleet) she was allowed to either wear a Starfleet uniform or civilian clothes.

Now I only remeber seeing her wearing the Starfleet mini skirt uniform in the first episode

There was another episode when some commodore took command of Enterprise and order Troi to wear Starfleet uniform

Now for the movies seems like she is wearing starfleet uniforms now

and her on Voyager

T'Pol always dressed liked that even when she was on Vulcan. Different colors, different designs but basically the same exact style. It was weird seeing her standing with other Vulcans who were in those layered 'roman-like' robes and she's still dressed in a form fitting one piece bodysuit. Made it hard to take her seriously, especially given how old she was supposed to be.


Never saw Deanna with other Betazoids with the exception of her mother and one other man from her homeworld, so it's hard to determine if that was normally how they dressed, especially considering they go naked for their weddings. But she did wear other styles of clothes often.


7of9 was eventually given a regular starfleet uniform like everybody else as more of her implants were surgically removed.

Oh I forgot Nerys had the one-piece suit all the also. Yeah she hardly changed out of that either, there were times though.

morningsong said:

Oh I forgot Nerys had the one-piece suit all the also. Yeah she hardly changed out of that either, there were times though.

I guess they just had the same costume designer for all the shows.

kpowers said:

morningsong said:

Oh I forgot Nerys had the one-piece suit all the also. Yeah she hardly changed out of that either, there were times though.

I guess they just had the same costume designer for all the shows.

Nah, I don't think so. The TNG Cardassians were absolutely hideous looking vs. the DS9 Cardassians.

Well the costume designers try to think what people would wear in the future and here are some takes on it

morningsong said:

kpowers said:

I guess they just had the same costume designer for all the shows.

Nah, I don't think so. The TNG Cardassians were absolutely hideous looking vs. the DS9 Cardassians.

Just talking about women wearing jump suits

The new Battlestar Galactica got lazy

morningsong said:

kpowers said:

I guess they just had the same costume designer for all the shows.

Nah, I don't think so. The TNG Cardassians were absolutely hideous looking vs. the DS9 Cardassians.

Well sometimes the look does change like when we first see the borg then later on through the series

Then later

and let's not forget the Klingons

kpowers said:

morningsong said:

Nah, I don't think so. The TNG Cardassians were absolutely hideous looking vs. the DS9 Cardassians.

Just talking about women wearing jump suits

It's not that deep, it was sex, I know that, but the other shows at least tried to play it off like there was a valid character reason why this person was always dressed so obvious. It just became such a spotlight to me for a Vulcan to always look that way when no other Vulcan ever did in any of the shows. Somebody made that decision, and I was just wondering if it was ever acknowledged. I guess not.

kpowers said:

morningsong said:

Nah, I don't think so. The TNG Cardassians were absolutely hideous looking vs. the DS9 Cardassians.

Well sometimes the look does change like when we first see the borg then later on through the series

Then later

and let's not forget the Klingons

I noticed the infamous borg tagline took a while to develope also. "We are the Borg. Resistance is futile. Perpare to be assimilated." When they first came on the scene they had some corny little speech that didn't have that same residence as that one does.

Enterprise explains the Klingon difference finally. TNG at least had one scene where it was acknowledged.

morningsong said:

kpowers said:

Well sometimes the look does change like when we first see the borg then later on through the series

Then later

and let's not forget the Klingons

I noticed the infamous borg tagline took a while to develope also. "We are the Borg. Resistance is futile. Perpare to be assimilated." When they first came on the scene they had some corny little speech that didn't have that same residence as that one does.

Enterprise explains the Klingon difference finally. TNG at least had one scene where it was acknowledged.

Well I know DS9 kinda acknowledge that. It was that episode where they went back to the troubles with tribbles episode. Bashir asked Worf if those were Klingons and Worf's response was "I don't want to talk about it"

morningsong said:

kpowers said:

Well sometimes the look does change like when we first see the borg then later on through the series

Then later

and let's not forget the Klingons

I noticed the infamous borg tagline took a while to develope also. "We are the Borg. Resistance is futile. Perpare to be assimilated." When they first came on the scene they had some corny little speech that didn't have that same residence as that one does.

Enterprise explains the Klingon difference finally. TNG at least had one scene where it was acknowledged.

Yes!!!!!!!!!! Season 4. Which what Enterprise was supposed to be about, showing how things developed. I do believe it was the episode "Affliction" where the Klingons use the same serum that Khan and others used to enhanced themselves. Side effect for the Klingons would be that they would lose the ridges on their heads. Would effect 1 or 2 generations

Seth Macfarlane cameo on Enterprise

David Graeber says Star Trek is not democratic.

2freaky4church1 said:

David Graeber says Star Trek is not democratic.

And I care, because?

kpowers said:

morningsong said:

I noticed the infamous borg tagline took a while to develope also. "We are the Borg. Resistance is futile. Perpare to be assimilated." When they first came on the scene they had some corny little speech that didn't have that same residence as that one does.

Enterprise explains the Klingon difference finally. TNG at least had one scene where it was acknowledged.

Yes!!!!!!!!!! Season 4. Which what Enterprise was supposed to be about, showing how things developed. I do believe it was the episode "Affliction" where the Klingons use the same serum that Khan and others used to enhanced themselves. Side effect for the Klingons would be that they would lose the ridges on their heads. Would effect 1 or 2 generations

I guess the new ST series is supposed to bridge any other gaps.

2freaky4church1 said:

David Graeber says Star Trek is not democratic.