morningsong said:

Hey, nobody even bothered to mention her presence.

It was generally noted some while back that she's not all she seems and most likely the 'inside man' for the Saviours / Wolves / some other nefarious group.

it's gonna be a long season for Rick and the gang

DaveT said:

morningsong said:

Hey, nobody even bothered to mention her presence.

It was generally noted some while back that she's not all she seems and most likely the 'inside man' for the Saviours / Wolves / some other nefarious group.

Just like Artemis on Arrow

oh for fucks sake. stupid enid and her stupid balloons are going to give their presence at the hilltop away. obviously, someone will remember how enid begged to keep the freaking balloons back at alexandria. obviously, someone will make the connection.

i'm really disappointed with these folks. just where did their brains go? south for the winter??????

enid and carl walking down the middle of the road when negan's folks are known to be driving around the area? rolling down the road on roller skates?? can you run through the forest to escape walkers wearing roller skates???? yes i get the 'moment of joy' scene there,but really.

i've lost a lot of sympathy for rick and his crew. from raiding negan's outpost and killing sleeping folks in cold blood to maggie and sasha deciding to stay despite being unwelcome. just how safe will they be when doofus betrays them to negan again??

i'm beginning to dislike our protagonists. they seem... just plain stupid. bless their hearts. why not leave town already!!! ditch fucking alexandria and move on to a safer spot.

there are huge benefits to remaining nomadic under these circumstances. why stay???

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from: http://www.forbes.com/sit...69042e683f

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Nov 20, 2016 @ 10:00 PM 108,436 views The Little Black Book of ...re Secrets

'The Walking Dead' Season 7, Episode 5 Review: The Worst Episode Ever

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Sunday night’s episode of The Walking Dead may be the worst episode ever made in the long-running zombie franchise. I certainly can’t remember a time I’ve laughed this hard at the bad writing and terrible plot devices. I can’t remember another episode this thoroughly wasted on side characters we don’t care about, that dragged on indeterminably, weaving drunkenly from one ludicrous scene to the next.

Now, before people start yelling at me for “hating on” this show, I’d like to point out that in Season 7 I have had overall mixed feelings so far. I liked things about the season premiere—it was incredibly intense, for instance—and disliked others. I liked both the second and third episodes. It wasn’t until last week that I truly started to find myself irritated and bored. But even last week’s plundering of Alexandria looks good compared to the steaming mess that is episode 5, “Go Getters.”

The episode can be broken down into two main storylines. In one, we have Enid and Carl heading toward Hilltop. In the other, we have Gregory yelling at people at Hilltop, and then getting yelled at by Jesus, with a Savior-filled interlude. Neither of these stories is worth the screen time. We’ll start with…

Carl & Enid

Carl and Enid finally kiss, and I suppose we’re supposed to be happy for them, but all I could think is that Carl should go for Michonne. Just kidding, sort of. Whatever the case, the two don’t have any chemistry to speak of. They even walk about 10 feet apart from one another on the path, until they find the roller skates.

Everything is forced about these two. The way they talk to one another. There’s no spark. But that’s not the worst part.

The worst part was when Enid was making her way to Hilltop alone and comes across a lone zombie. This zombie, who is all by itself shuffling slowly across the street far away, makes Enid Very Afraid. The music gets tense, and the camera flashes back and forth between Enid and the zombie, and you get the feeling that the director and writers are trying to make the audience just as Very Afraid as Enid appears to be.

Then, just in the nick of time, sort of, Carl shows up and crushes the Lone Zombie with his car.

What is this nonsense? Why is Enid afraid of one zombie? She’s spent tons of time on her own out in the apocalypse and she’s killed plenty of walkers. As viewers, we’ve also seen many hundreds of zombies die. We’ve seen whole towns overrun with the undead. Do they really expect us to feel a moment of fear as this far away zombie shuffles toward the perfectly capable Enid? Are we supposed to feel relieved when Carl shows up to save the damsel in distress?

I just laughed. It was one of many instances in tonight’s episode where the only reaction I could muster was a laugh of disbelief.

Enid asks Carl what he was doing out here and he says he just thought he’d take a drive. We, the audience, see that for what it is: An incredibly transparent lie that Carl isn’t telling to be deceitful, but in an almost joking manner.

Of course, Enid takes it seriously, believing that it’s just coincidence he’s out for a drive in the same area she is right after she told him where she was going. Later in the episode she says, “You weren’t just out for a drive were you?” To which I wanted Carl to respond, “Uh…no, Enid. Did you really take me literally when I said that? Have you fallen on your head or something?”

This is just a tiny bit of the terrible, no-good, very bad dialogue sprinkled throughout ‘Go Getters.’ In fact, I think the dialogue is even worse in…

more at link

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So, either Sasha and Jesus are going to become the next dynamic duo, and no I don't mean hooking up I hope not, ew, or one of them is going to die a gruesome death soon.

Carl and Enid, well what can one really say, luckily Jesus just happened to be along for the ride so it may not backfire too badly. What was with the long azzed kiss when they are within sight of the Saviors? Seems a lot those 2 did this episode made absolutely no sense at all.

I do like the way Rick and Michonne are playing out, I honestly didn't think it would play that way, something interesting to see which way it plays out.

We know what's going to play out with Maggie, well those that either read the comics or Goggle a lot. Nice the fetus is doing okay for now.

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from: https://mic.com/articles/....8YX0mVOWD

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What will Carl do at the Sanctuary? Here's what we know from 'The Walking Dead' comics.

The TV adaptation of The Walking Dead has a decent amount of room to tweak the comic book's storyline. In fact, there have been quite a few deviations from the source material in the show's seven seasons. One of the biggest ongoing departures is Daryl Dixon, a beloved fan-favorite character (who really needs a haircut) that only exists in the show's canon.

He's a big part of the series — with fans promising to riot if he ever gets killed off — and it's with Daryl that one of the comics' most interesting storylines with Negan was seemingly diverted. We get our first glimpse of Negan's home, the Sanctuary, through Daryl's torturous imprisonment that includes eating dog food and listening to the horridly catchy "Easy Street."

It's a touch different from our first look at the Sanctuary in the comics, which we see through the eyes (or eye, to be painfully literal) of Carl "Coral" Grimes. But after season seven's fifth episode, "Go Getters," in which Carl sneaks onto a Saviors truck heading to the Sanctuary with Jesus, it looks like we'll be treated to some iteration of that storyline as well. So what exactly happens in the comics?

Put simply, Carl just tries to start some shit. He guns down a few of the Saviors at the Sanctuary before he's subdued. Given Negan's distaste for how Rick and the group killed a ton of his people — leading to him killing Glenn, and in the show, also Abraham — one would assume he'd punish or kill Carl for doing so.

That doesn't happen. Instead, he basically takes Carl for a tour of the Sanctuary. It highlights the strange yet compelling relationship between Negan and Carl in the comics that the show hasn't really touched on yet. Negan is impressed by and respects Carl's toughness (remember: When Negan visits Alexandria in the show, Carl doesn't back down either). And while Carl goes along with Negan in the comics and assumes the mentee role, Carl consistently reminds Negan that yes, he still really wants to kill him.

So if Carl's trip to the Sanctuary takes a similar turn to the comics, it could set the foundation for the peculiar Negan-Carl relationship that still persists in the comics. Considering what Andrew Lincoln, who plays Rick, has said about season seven, it's something we ought to expect.

"I'm interested in the relationship between Negan and Carl, and Carl and Rick," Lincoln told Cinema Blend. "There's a very complicated, extraordinary psychology between those characters."

Carl needs a hair cut, he's turning into Carla

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Good to see Jesus back, the relation between Carl and Negan should turn into a sexual one, it would be more interesting.

no way

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/evidence-carl-grimes-will-die-on-the-walking-dead_us_58385b91e4b000af95ee1fc6


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No way, that's not possible, that would be awful, a big crime, worse than killing Glenn.

214 said:

No way, that's not possible, that would be awful, a big crime, worse than killing Glenn.

the show without carl would be weird. but, i could totally understand if chandler riggs wants to do something else with his life.

XxAxX said:

214 said:

No way, that's not possible, that would be awful, a big crime, worse than killing Glenn.

the show without carl would be weird. but, i could totally understand if chandler riggs wants to do something else with his life.

I don't care what he wants to do with his f*** life i just care about the show.

214 said:

XxAxX said:

the show without carl would be weird. but, i could totally understand if chandler riggs wants to do something else with his life.

I don't care what he wants to do with his f*** life i just care about the show.

214 said:

XxAxX said:

the show without carl would be weird. but, i could totally understand if chandler riggs wants to do something else with his life.

I don't care what he wants to do with his f*** life i just care about the show.

Agreed! FU Chandler Riggs!! You belong to us now...

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djThunderfunk said:

214 said:

I don't care what he wants to do with his f*** life i just care about the show.

Agreed! FU Chandler Riggs!! You belong to us now...

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Exactly, that bitch must do as we say.

214 said:

i like his character just fine, but let's face it the show could easily go on without carl.

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oh em gee!!! say it ain't so!!!!

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https://www.yahoo.com/tech/ratings-walking-dead-lowest-ve-since-2012-145519761.html

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The Walking Dead has long been a ratings juggernaut for AMC, but viewership numbers over the past few episodes suggest that interest in the zombie-themed drama is falling ever so slightly. Despite a highly anticipated premiere that nearly broke series viewing records with just a hair more than 17 million viewers, viewership for subsequent episodes has been declining steadily.

According to Comicbook, the drop off from episode 1 to episode 2 was huge, with the second episode of the season 7 attracting approximately 12.5 million viewers. While that drop off is understandable given the hype and speculation surrounding the season premiere, viewership has continued to trend downward ever since.

Episode four only saw a slight drop, as the Sunday viewers came in at around 11.4 million. This week, just under 11 million viewers tuned in for the show.

While The Walking Dead is still the most-watched series on Sunday nights, it’s decline is troublesome. The last time ratings dropped below 11 million was in season three. The show has seen steady numbers for the last three seasons, but fans are beginning to tune out.

To be fair, the show is still pulling in monster numbers, but there does seem to be a growing consensus among some fans that the current season isn’t up to snuff with previous efforts. Last week’s episode aside, I personally think the show is as strong as ever. Not only are we slowly but surely building up to what will undoubtedly be a can’t-miss showdown between Rick and Neegan, it’s also fascinating to see how Rick and co. adjust to a world where they’re no longer calling the shots, no longer controlling their own destiny.

What’s more, The Walking Dead is no stranger to dragging a bit mid-season. Season 5, for example, had a few snoozers towards the back half of the season before things finally picked up over the last few episodes. All that to say this: viewership may be the lowest we’ve seen since 2012, but it stands to reason that it’s just at temporary lull before fans get back on board as season 7 kicks into full gear.

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"Swear" was in interesting "lull" episode last night. Tara (Alanna Masterson) carried the hour well.

This whole time and nobody even mentioned Tara. How sad.

morningsong said:

This whole time and nobody even mentioned Tara. How sad.

That's also a function of the show's story arcs. Tara could never get enough oxygen because of the main characters. But "Swear" allowed Tara to show that she, and likely, Rosita, can help fill the void left by Glenn and Abraham.

namepeace said:

"Swear" was in interesting "lull" episode last night. Tara (Alanna Masterson) carried the hour well.

Yes. I especially liked the change of setting and the beach scene. What a relief to see the ocean instead of green forests and swamps all the time. That´s why I still watch Fear the Walking Dead even though the show has its flaws....the change of scenery makes it worth watching for me.

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Tara suprised me and really carried this episode well. I never knew she was such a good fighter....and a passionate runner.

This was a really good episode.

it will be really interesting to see how the beach people join up with the alexandrians and other communities eventually.

XxAxX said:

it will be really interesting to see how the beach people join up with the alexandrians and other communities eventually.

Indeed, i like the lady, the leader.

214 said:

XxAxX said:

it will be really interesting to see how the beach people join up with the alexandrians and other communities eventually.

Indeed, i like the lady, the leader.

DaveT said:

214 said:

Indeed, i like the lady, the leader.

Can't see it happening. This group weren't in the comic so its unlikely they will have a major role in the TV show.

I'm not so sure. If they aren't going to play a pivotal role, or at least have an important arc over the next several episodes, why have them there at all?

DaveT said:

214 said:

Indeed, i like the lady, the leader.

Can't see it happening. This group weren't in the comic so its unlikely they will have a major role in the TV show.

That means nothing, look Daryl.

What did you all think of "Sing A Song" S07 E07?

"Coral" and Negan had a very Anakin-Palpatine vibe to it.

Negan is the psychotic high school coach of your nightmares. But good for Olivia for standing up to him.

What in the world are Michonne and Rosita doing? Like Carl, they've each hatched half-cocked suicide missions to kill Negan without telling anybody. Seems like Rick has already lost control, and all this does is play right into Negan's hands. Glenn, Daryl and Maggie are leaving a real void in leadership. Maybe Tara will step up.