missfee said:

Ask and you shall receive:

Or be careful what you ask for? What a puss this dude is,

babynoz said:

missfee said:

Ask and you shall receive:

Or be careful what you ask for? What a puss this dude is,

Right! This guy is supposed to be on vacation until July 11th...at least that's what he said last when he was on First Take (speaking of which won't be worth watching now that Skip Bayless is gone), yet he keeps popping up all over constantly offering his best emmy award performances as if anyone has missed his flip flopping behind. To take 20 minutes out of your vacation day to record an amateur video of yourself ranting about a pro basketball player's personal decision to move to another team is beyond pathetic. A simple phone call into Sportscenter would've sufficed, but not for SAS.

thetimefan said:

Off topic but there rumors going around that Dwayne's meeting with Dan Gilbert and joining the Cavs. The fact they have just $3.5m and he wants $50m over two years means they'd have to trade Kevin Love and or another player and bring in Wade. There's also rumors about Cleveland wanting to bring in Russell Westbrook. How they can accommodate James, Wade and Westbrook's salaries on one team is a tricky question. They'd have to bring in veterans to fill out the roster spots and I'd imagine they'd have to trade Kyrie to bring in Russell. I think Westbrook's a great player but for some reason I wouldn't give up Irving for him because I think Kyrie Irving stepped up to MVP level throughout the NBA finals. So if I were Cavs GM go for Wade and weigh up the options for Westbrook in free agency next season.

As soon as the Durant deal went down, I said to myself, LeBron has to do something to counter that, because I'm pretty sure Cleveland & GS will meet again.

RodeoSchro said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Like I said in the Finals thread, in the past, other players did what LeBron and Durant are accused of doing, "championship chasing". Shit, Charles Barkley did it twice, so I don't want to hear from him or any haters. With Durant, OKC had what it takes to beat Golden State, so I was surprised he left.

I'm with you. Heck, I would WANT "championship chasers" on my team. Any guy that leaves the comfort of his established team in order to go for a ring has to be hungry, and hungry is what you want.

But I think Durant's position was that OKC did NOT have what it takes to beat Golden State. If Durant thought they did, he would have stayed put. My guess is that Durant's thinking was, "We gave everything we had this year, and it wasn't enough. And there isn't anyone we can get that will make us better than Golden State, so we/I have plateaued here".

He'll never say that but I can't think of any other reason to leave OKC for GS other than he didn't think OKC could ever beat GS.

But OKC DID have what it takes to beat GS....they killed themselves with mental mistakes at "winnin' time". That's why I'm disappointed in Durant. I wanted to see a rematch of those two teams.

To use basketball & pro wrestling/sport entertainment comparsions, Kevin Durant joining the Curry-era Golden State Warriors is like Barry Windlam joining The Four Horsemen!

If you can't beat them, join them.

Now real talk, this new and improved GSW team is basically an [un?]holy alliance to defeat and buried LeBron James and the Cavs. If you're a Warriors fans, having Kevin Durant on the same team with Stephen Curry is definitely best for business.

TonyVanDam said:

phunkdaddy said:

TonyVanDam said:

To use basketball & pro wrestling/sport entertainment comparsions, Kevin Durant joining the Curry-era Golden State Warriors is like Barry Windlam joining The Four Horsemen!

If you can't beat them, join them.

Now real talk, this new and improved GSW team is basically an [un?]holy alliance to defeat and buried LeBron James and the Cavs. If you're a Warriors fans, having Kevin Durant on the same team with Stephen Curry is definitely best for business.

What would be best for business is if there were a faction like the old Pistons or Knicks who would be the Wyatts or The Shield to physically decimate Golden State.

But there isn't.

missfee said:

thetimefan said:

phunkdaddy said:

thetimefan said:

Off topic but there rumors going around that Dwayne's meeting with Dan Gilbert and joining the Cavs. The fact they have just $3.5m and he wants $50m over two years means they'd have to trade Kevin Love and or another player and bring in Wade. There's also rumors about Cleveland wanting to bring in Russell Westbrook. How they can accommodate James, Wade and Westbrook's salaries on one team is a tricky question. They'd have to bring in veterans to fill out the roster spots and I'd imagine they'd have to trade Kyrie to bring in Russell. I think Westbrook's a great player but for some reason I wouldn't give up Irving for him because I think Kyrie Irving stepped up to MVP level throughout the NBA finals. So if I were Cavs GM go for Wade and weigh up the options for Westbrook in free agency next season.

I could see it happening since DWade and LBJ already have a bromance and the wives are cool with each other so I could see D wade taking a little less to play with his buddy. Mrs Union's bougie ass may complain Cleveland's too cold. D Wade would be the defender at the 2 guard spot that the Cavs so desperately need.

Ummmm....a 16.6 mill pay cut is more than "a little less". I'm pretty sure Mrs. Wade would take greater issue with the pay cut than the weather change. . Even if the Cavs actually pushed for it, wouldn't they have to part with Kevin Love and someone else? Perhaps, Queen James would be the one willing to take a cut for his pal to come on board.

[Edited 7/6/16 7:02am]

All about winning with them ducks.

Fathead Barkley has reached an all time high of hyprocrisy. Of course he's on the Durant bashing train, however, how this guy can even formulate his lips to say that Durant is "cheating his way into a championship" when he guy left the 76ers to go to Phoenix and then later to Houston to get a ring? This guy...

[Edited 7/6/16 9:12am]

uPtoWnNY said:

RodeoSchro said:

I'm with you. Heck, I would WANT "championship chasers" on my team. Any guy that leaves the comfort of his established team in order to go for a ring has to be hungry, and hungry is what you want.

But I think Durant's position was that OKC did NOT have what it takes to beat Golden State. If Durant thought they did, he would have stayed put. My guess is that Durant's thinking was, "We gave everything we had this year, and it wasn't enough. And there isn't anyone we can get that will make us better than Golden State, so we/I have plateaued here".

He'll never say that but I can't think of any other reason to leave OKC for GS other than he didn't think OKC could ever beat GS.

But OKC DID have what it takes to beat GS....they killed themselves with mental mistakes at "winnin' time". That's why I'm disappointed in Durant. I wanted to see a rematch of those two teams.

If they really had what it took then they would have won. At least, that's what I believe KD is thinking.

missfee said:

Fathead Barkley has reached an all time high of hyprocrisy. Of course he's on the Durant bashing train, however, how this guy even formulate his lips to say that Durant is "cheating his way into a championship" when this guy left the 76ers to go to Phoenix and then later to Houston to get a ring? This guy...

[Edited 7/6/16 8:50am]

I'm relatively sure that at least 50% of the reason Sir Charles came to Houston was the quality of our strip clubs.

RodeoSchro said:

missfee said:

Fathead Barkley has reached an all time high of hyprocrisy. Of course he's on the Durant bashing train, however, how this guy even formulate his lips to say that Durant is "cheating his way into a championship" when this guy left the 76ers to go to Phoenix and then later to Houston to get a ring? This guy...

[Edited 7/6/16 8:50am]

I'm relatively sure that at least 50% of the reason Sir Charles came to Houston was the quality of our strip clubs.

missfee said:

RodeoSchro said:

I'm relatively sure that at least 50% of the reason Sir Charles came to Houston was the quality of our strip clubs.

Don't ask me how I know!

RodeoSchro said:

missfee said:

Don't ask me how I know!

Oh I won't.

phunkdaddy said:

missfee said:

RodeoSchro said:

uPtoWnNY said:

But OKC DID have what it takes to beat GS....they killed themselves with mental mistakes at "winnin' time". That's why I'm disappointed in Durant. I wanted to see a rematch of those two teams.

If they really had what it took then they would have won. At least, that's what I believe KD is thinking.

Then Durant's not being honest with himself. It was bad decisions by he & Westbrook at crunch time that doomed OKC. Those turnovers were ridiculous.

Dude's a hypocrite for his shot at Lebron James in 2010. And at the time that Cavs team wasn't championship-caliber like OKC.

Brendan said:

If I were a Golden State fan I'd be wearing a huge Cheshire Cat smile right about now while secretly wondering what building was going to fall on my greater than great fortune. This is way more than even the New York Yankees of the last decade where it started to feel like two leagues: the Yankees and everyone else.

You make some legitimate arguments in your post. But the Yanks have spent boatloads since 2000 and have only 2 titles to show for it in that span of time. The Heat were supposed to be halfway through a decade of dominance at this point; now all Big 3 are gone and they only won 2.

Not to say GS isn't supremely positioned to win several O'Briens for the rest of the decade. But KD joining them doesn't guarantee a monopoly on the NBA . . . nor is it completely unprecedented.

In the 60's and 80's, Boston and Los Angeles were overflowing with superstars and All-Star talents. The difference is that, now, the players can create superteams, instead of the franchises.

That being said, nothing is guaranteed with GSW. Anything can happen. They know better than anyone now.

namepeace said:

Brendan said:

If I were a Golden State fan I'd be wearing a huge Cheshire Cat smile right about now while secretly wondering what building was going to fall on my greater than great fortune. This is way more than even the New York Yankees of the last decade where it started to feel like two leagues: the Yankees and everyone else.

You make some legitimate arguments in your post. But the Yanks have spent boatloads since 2000 and have only 2 titles to show for it in that span of time. The Heat were supposed to be halfway through a decade of dominance at this point; now all Big 3 are gone and they only won 2.

Not to say GS isn't supremely positioned to win several O'Briens for the rest of the decade. But KD joining them doesn't guarantee a monopoly on the NBA . . . nor is it completely unprecedented.

In the 60's and 80's, Boston and Los Angeles were overflowing with superstars and All-Star talents. The difference is that, now, the players can create superteams, instead of the franchises.

That being said, nothing is guaranteed with GSW. Anything can happen. They know better than anyone now.

I'd say GS needs two things....a legit rim protector, and Curry has to get healthier & stronger during the off-season. He's had two sub-par finals.

namepeace said:

uPtoWnNY said:

namepeace said:

You make some legitimate arguments in your post. But the Yanks have spent boatloads since 2000 and have only 2 titles to show for it in that span of time. The Heat were supposed to be halfway through a decade of dominance at this point; now all Big 3 are gone and they only won 2.

Not to say GS isn't supremely positioned to win several O'Briens for the rest of the decade. But KD joining them doesn't guarantee a monopoly on the NBA . . . nor is it completely unprecedented.

In the 60's and 80's, Boston and Los Angeles were overflowing with superstars and All-Star talents. The difference is that, now, the players can create superteams, instead of the franchises.

That being said, nothing is guaranteed with GSW. Anything can happen. They know better than anyone now.

I'd say GS needs two things....a legit rim protector, and Curry has to get healthier & stronger during the off-season. He's had two sub-par finals.

Pachulia isn't a bad fit, but he's not a grade-A rim protector.

After you get out of the 1st round, the game gradually slows and gets more physical. You're right, like the Jordans, Kobes, and Isiahs before him, Curry may have to add muscle to help him weather the grinding of working off picks and bumps on each possession. But having KD helps draw more attention away.

missfee said:

Dammit!!!! Speights signed with the Clippers. With exception of Livingston, our whole damn bench is gone!!!!

True, but it's the price you pay for having 2 of the last 5 MVPs, and 4 of the top 20 players in the league, on the roster. I'd take it and take my chances. You did get David West and Pachulia, and those are proven "glue" guys.

namepeace said: