Oh damn, it's seems as though the whacko lone gun man mentality will never leave this country...

Hate and guns go together so well. Sigh. Prayers. Anything to say GOP?

I know, it's all about Islam. bah.

I've been following the news reports on this horrific incident, and the shooter was an American citizen who called 911 before he actually went shooting and killing people and told authorities that he had pledged allegiance to the leader of ISIS. But he also mentioned the Tsarnavev brothers in his phone call to the authorities (who were Chechen and not affiliated with ISIS or Al Qaeda).

Also, his father said he became insensed about a month ago when he was out in public in Miami with his son and saw two men kissing in a bathroom. The father said he thought nothing of it, but his son became angry. And there have been reports from the shooter's ex-wife stating that he was abusive towards her.

2freaky4church1 said:

Hate and guns go together so well. Sigh. Prayers. Anything to say GOP?

2freaky4church1 said:

I know, it's all about Islam. bah.

and the Bengals suck

2freaky4church1 said:

I know, it's all about Islam. bah.

No. Islamic homophobia. It has it's problems. That's just one.

Marrk said:

2freaky4church1 said:

I know, it's all about Islam. bah.

No. Islamic homophobia. It has it's problems. That's just one.

2freaky was hoping it was a white guy, but since it's not he still is gonna bitch

purplethunder3121 said:

Oh damn, it's seems as though the whacko lone gun man mentality will never leave this country...

I know this is really sad

mjscarousal said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Oh damn, it's seems as though the whacko lone gun man mentality will never leave this country...

I know this is really sad

It's like the myth of the wild, wild west will never leave...

Very sad indeed, but once again we know what is going to happen pattern wise, first shock and outrage, a period of mourning and then forgetting all about it like all the other mass shootings when they are no longer in the news. I thought last year was going to be a wake up call.....but look what happened? Nothing

doesn't this belong in politics and religion?

Please pray for Orlando. A man from where I live was killed as well. Please pray for the families who lost loved ones.

Geraldo questioned how there was no one in a crowd of that size that chose to fight. I don't know but if I was there I would have rushed him rather than wait to be shot if I could get out of the building. I would have hoped there was at least a couple of other like-minded real men.

FUNKYNESS said:

Let's not do this, please.

FUNKYNESS said:

Geraldo questioned how there was no one in a crowd of that size that chose to fight. I don't know but if I was there I would have rushed him rather than wait to be shot if I could get out of the building. I would have hoped there was at least a couple of other like-minded real men.

I only know of one newspaper that has questioned (The New York Times) the Police and its Swat-Team time-line. 2:00am or a little after the police were called and on the scene. Why did it take the police till 5:00am to do something. I've read conflicting reports on the gunman. Did the police go into Pulse to get him or did the gunman also exit one of the holes the police created with explosives? I think its the latter... the police never went after the guy, he came out out one of the holes shooting. WTF

I don't know if anyone been paying attention to counter terrorism police forces in France and Belgium, they don't bother to negotiate. Their SWAT teams go in, if an officer is shot, he or she is pulled to the back of the line, and police team continue forward, shooting. Our SWAT teams holdup behind cars, trees, and rocks... going in after the fact. A 1/3 of the people in Pulse were shot... half of them died, they bleed out.

We need to review how our special police forces do their jobs. Training and playing cops and robbers and walking around in RAMBO gear is useless.

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nonames said:

FUNKYNESS said:

Geraldo questioned how there was no one in a crowd of that size that chose to fight. I don't know but if I was there I would have rushed him rather than wait to be shot if I could get out of the building. I would have hoped there was at least a couple of other like-minded real men.

You are implying that the people in there were not 'real' men. Can You elaborare ok that?

I implied nothing - even if you want me to. I stated clearly and concisely what I meant as for as I was paraphrasing the question put forth by Geraldo Rivera. I think it is a legitimate question since there was a fight during the one tragedy in American history that was worse than this one.

TD3 said:

FUNKYNESS said:

Geraldo questioned how there was no one in a crowd of that size that chose to fight. I don't know but if I was there I would have rushed him rather than wait to be shot if I could get out of the building. I would have hoped there was at least a couple of other like-minded real men.

I only know of one newspaper that has questioned (The New York Times) the Police and its Swat-Team time-line. 2:00am or a little after the police were called and on the scene. Why did it take the police till 5:00pm to do something. I've read conflicting reports on the gunman. Did the police go into Pulse to get him or did the gunman also exit one of the holes the police created with explosives? I think its the latter... the police never went after the guy, he was coming out one of the holes shooting. WTF

I don't know if anyone being paying attention to counter terrorism police forces in France and Belgium, they don't bother to negotiate. Their SWAT teams go in, if an officer is shot, he or she is pulled to back of the line, and they continue forward, shooting. Our SWAT teams holdup behind cars, trees, and rocks... going after the fact. A 1/3 of the people in Pulse where shot half of them died, they bleed out.

We need to review how our special police forces do their jobs. Training and playing cobs and robbers and walking around in RAMBO gear is useless.

Maybe so - but good luck questioning the effort of urgent 1st responders in a situation like this in America. Remember how the 911 responders were canonized? Anyone finding fault with them is surely going to get ripped - or at least I would if I posted such a question here.

FUNKYNESS said:

TD3 said:

I only know of one newspaper that has questioned (The New York Times) the Police and its Swat-Team time-line. 2:00am or a little after the police were called and on the scene. Why did it take the police till 5:00pm to do something. I've read conflicting reports on the gunman. Did the police go into Pulse to get him or did the gunman also exit one of the holes the police created with explosives? I think its the latter... the police never went after the guy, he was coming out one of the holes shooting. WTF

I don't know if anyone being paying attention to counter terrorism police forces in France and Belgium, they don't bother to negotiate. Their SWAT teams go in, if an officer is shot, he or she is pulled to back of the line, and they continue forward, shooting. Our SWAT teams holdup behind cars, trees, and rocks... going after the fact. A 1/3 of the people in Pulse where shot half of them died, they bleed out.

We need to review how our special police forces do their jobs. Training and playing cobs and robbers and walking around in RAMBO gear is useless.

Maybe so - but good luck questioning the effort of urgent 1st responders in a situation like this in America. Remember how the 911 responders were canonized? Anyone finding fault with them is surely going to get ripped - or at least I would if I posted such a question here.

Let folks get upset...

If your are suppose to be on an elite team(SWAT) than I guess you understand the risks are greater. What's the point of having a SWAT team if all they do is, stand ourside and watching? Folks were texting loved one asking them to call the police and for the police to hurry. Damn, the SWAT team was there, standing outside!

TD3 said:

FUNKYNESS said:

Maybe so - but good luck questioning the effort of urgent 1st responders in a situation like this in America. Remember how the 911 responders were canonized? Anyone finding fault with them is surely going to get ripped - or at least I would if I posted such a question here.

Let folks get upset...

If your are suppose to be on an elite team(SWAT) than I guess you understand the risks are greater. What's the point of having a SWAT team if all they do is, stand ourside and watching? Folks were texting loved one asking them to call the police and for the police to hurry. Damn, the SWAT team was there, standing outside!

The more I look into this.................the less that is adding up.

hope this isnt focused on the gay aspect...its more important than that

unbelievable....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/baptist-pastor-praises-attack-gay-200800615.html