mjscarousal said:

babynoz said:

phunkdaddy said:

babynoz said:

The bizarre emotional outbursts are increasing, but I'll forgive her since it's Prince's birthday.

Unbelievable isn't it. Back on topic. The Warriors have handed the Cavs their asses this series and the scary part is Steph Curry hasn't even warmed up yet. They are playing precision basketball. It's like they are a step ahead of the Cavs in every way possible. Its not all LBJ fault but he has to accept some responsibility. This is what he signed up for. He wanted Kevin Love. Well now you got him instead of being patient and waiting for Andrew Wiggins to come around. To get back in the series the rest of the team has to step up. LBJ can score 35 but if the cast around him is firing blanks it won't mean a thing. Draymond Green has proven me wrong this series. I knew he was a baller but after watching him during the OKC series I had put him in the Lance Stephenson category as in he could only flourish in a system with other stars leading the way and he may not be effective on a bad team. Even though he's not one of my favorite players he may just be better than I gave him credit for.

As one commentator put it, "The East was Fools Gold for the Cavs". They didn't play anyone and now they are paying the price.

Graycap23 said:

phunkdaddy said:

babynoz said:

The bizarre emotional outbursts are increasing, but I'll forgive her since it's Prince's birthday.

Unbelievable isn't it. Back on topic. The Warriors have handed the Cavs their asses this series and the scary part is Steph Curry hasn't even warmed up yet. They are playing precision basketball. It's like they are a step ahead of the Cavs in every way possible. Its not all LBJ fault but he has to accept some responsibility. This is what he signed up for. He wanted Kevin Love. Well now you got him instead of being patient and waiting for Andrew Wiggins to come around. To get back in the series the rest of the team has to step up. LBJ can score 35 but if the cast around him is firing blanks it won't mean a thing. Draymond Green has proven me wrong this series. I knew he was a baller but after watching him during the OKC series I had put him in the Lance Stephenson category as in he could only flourish in a system with other stars leading the way and he may not be effective on a bad team. Even though he's not one of my favorite players he may just be better than I gave him credit for.

Dray has certainly grown a lot during these playoffs. Not only game wise but he's really calmed down when it comes to getting in the refs faces and arguing all the time. I know that its most in part because of the danger of him either getting another flagrant or two more tech fouls, but still, it has to be recognized that he is smart enough to calm himself down when something doesn't go his way...whereas it could go the other way.

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phunkdaddy said:

Graycap23 said:

As one commentator put it, "The East was Fools Gold for the Cavs". They didn't play anyone and now they are paying the price.

I have to agree. I had the Warriors winning in 6. It's still possible but it may be an ugly 5 or 6 game series.

This is why I say the Warriors aren't out of the woods yet. We've only won 2 straight and folks have us sweeping already. The games coming up, 3 and 4, will be the most important. I believe the Warriors will still dominate but the Cavs just may try to win at least one game at home (you would think).

[Edited 6/7/16 9:58am]

phunkdaddy said:

mjscarousal said:

You must be talking about yourself because that is what you have done throughout this discussion.I have been laughing throughout this posts because there funny. I am in no way taking this discussion seriously like you are You have brought other things non related to this thread in order to make a point, cussed and insisted you don't give a "rats ass", said you were done but keep oddly coming back, belittle me as a person BUT then you got the nerve to say I am going on the deep in?

C'mon now

Why are you attacking Gray and I for pretty much saying the same thing? Don't act like you have amnesia now. You have not once acknowledged any of the opposing points that have been made about Lebron. Your argument is bizaree to me really. You keep insisting I hate Lebron James but all I have said in this thread is that He is overrated (because of the MJ comparisions), He has a big ego, He has done questionable things. Can you please explain how that is irrational hating? Those are simply my opinions which I have backed up and legitimate opinions that others also share.

I don't know if you're dumb or you just play dumb to get a rise out of people. Now in addition to being a spin doctor on the org you're adding psychologist to your resume. So if someone curse in a post it means their angry? When I stated several posts ago my work is done here I simply implied I was done with the discussion for that day which i was. Some of us actually work for a living and don't blog all damn day. Excuse me for not breaking that down in laymens term. The only reason I have taken the time to respond to your posts because I'm on my off days and challenged you to defend your position but you keep running and ducking behind other nonsense that has nothing to do with what we were debating about. 3 other people have challenged your position and you've done nothing but talk in circles. Now you wanna lie and say I attacked Graycap. Then when I ask you to point it out you run behind other nonsense. The fact of the mater is Gray and I discussion has been civil. You also lied and said I have jumped down othes throat when it comes to the discussion of LBJ. You can't back that up in this thread either. I've only debated you and Gray in this thread on LBJ. Please provide proof where I've attacked others. Hell i will challenge you to find proof where I've attacked anybody this season on LBJ. I will send you a money order for 25 dollars if you could find proof. I'm ready to put it all to rest because it's become one big circle and you're just gonna ON and ON and ON being the spin doctor you are.

You are bothered for some reason about my opinion on LBJ and this discussion. You have turned a light hearted fun topic around and derailed. I have been laughing and was enjoying the thread. You are the one getting riled up and has the personal problem, not me. You also have a weird odd personal problem with me that goes beyond this thread. Are you honestly arguing that "I am playing dumb" when you have been making personal attacks and bringing up irrelevant things that have nothing to do with this thread to make your points? You have literally gone out your way to make claims about my argument that have nothing to do with this topic but you got the nerve to imply I am playing dumb and Im the one upset?

You said you were done with this discussion and did not want to discuss this topic anymore with me because according to you I dont know anything about baskeball (which you are perfectly entitled to think) and according to you, "you are not bothered and dont care" but I am confused with why you are still here debating with me about my opinions when you said you were done. This is the behavior of someone who is obviously emotional and bothered by someone's opinion which you are displaying because you have gone to extreme levels to make a point......its not that serious. I am not running and ducking. I said earlier that I know your stance on this topic and don't bother to go back in forth because imo you can not be objective and open minded. I stated my opinion and have not tried to pressure anyone to agree with that unlike you and others with Gray. I did not lie about anything. You are not open minded in NBA discussions involving LBJ. Thats not a lie, thats an opinion that I have based on observation on previous discussions in this topic and which I am entitled too. YOU are the one that has not be diplomatic and mature with your constant personal attacks and jabs. I have not done anything to you in this thread to deserve any of that but I see you can not maturely have an adult discussion.You don't have to convince of me of anything. We will just agree to disagree, I am done with this discussion.

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What is up with Kevin Love?

Talk about overrated.

Graycap23 said:

What is up with Kevin Love?

Talk about overrated.

Stephen A. and Skip went completely IN on Kevin yesterday. Have they announced if he'll be playing tomorrow or not? Let me guess, he'll be listed as "questionable" until the last minute.

missfee said:

Graycap23 said:

What is up with Kevin Love?

Talk about overrated.

Stephen A. and Skip went completely IN on Kevin yesterday. Have they announced if he'll be playing tomorrow or not? Let me guess, he'll be listed as "questionable" until the last minute.

Dude is soft.

Graycap23 said:

missfee said:

Stephen A. and Skip went completely IN on Kevin yesterday. Have they announced if he'll be playing tomorrow or not? Let me guess, he'll be listed as "questionable" until the last minute.

Dude is soft.

It really doesn't matter if he's in the game or not. What is up with JR Smith? It was mentioned that he has a reality show in the works, Stephen A. went off. So it seems there maybe some outside distractions in their way, or they don't feel they need to change much. The motivation just doesn't seem to be there for some reason. Don't see why not since they've had more time off than anything else to prepare to get hungry. I think that the idea is that since they are playing at home the next 2 games that the motivation will come. We'll see. It's really just a matter of the Warriors getting the trophy sooner or later.

[Edited 6/7/16 12:06pm]

missfee said:

Graycap23 said:

Dude is soft.

It really doesn't matter if he's in the game or not. What is up with JR Smith? It was mentioned that he has a reality show in the works, Stephen A. went off. So it seems there maybe some outside distractions in their way, or they don't feel they need to change much. The motivation just doesn't seem to be there for some reason. Don't see why not since they've had more time off than anything else to prepare to get hungry. I think that the idea is that since they are playing at home the next 2 games that the motivation will come. We'll see. It's really just a matter of the Warriors getting the trophy sooner or later.

[Edited 6/7/16 12:06pm]

Love isn't a banger. He'd be more at home with GS.

Irving is a defensive liability and that's probably killing his confidence on the Finals stage. If Smith isn't hitting shots he disappears completely.

The Cavs don't have "glue" guys like GS has with Iguodala and Dray. They need more Tony Allen types on their team. But the Cavs' rosters in the LBJ eras have always lacked something.

namepeace said:

missfee said:

It really doesn't matter if he's in the game or not. What is up with JR Smith? It was mentioned that he has a reality show in the works, Stephen A. went off. So it seems there maybe some outside distractions in their way, or they don't feel they need to change much. The motivation just doesn't seem to be there for some reason. Don't see why not since they've had more time off than anything else to prepare to get hungry. I think that the idea is that since they are playing at home the next 2 games that the motivation will come. We'll see. It's really just a matter of the Warriors getting the trophy sooner or later.

[Edited 6/7/16 12:06pm]

Love isn't a banger. He'd be more at home with GS.

Irving is a defensive liability and that's probably killing his confidence on the Finals stage. If Smith isn't hitting shots he disappears completely.

The Cavs don't have "glue" guys like GS has with Iguodala and Dray. They need more Tony Allen types on their team. But the Cavs' rosters in the LBJ eras have always lacked something.

Didn't Lebron the GM build this team?

phunkdaddy said:

babynoz said:

The bizarre emotional outbursts are increasing, but I'll forgive her since it's Prince's birthday.

Unbelievable isn't it. Back on topic. The Warriors have handed the Cavs their asses this series and the scary part is Steph Curry hasn't even warmed up yet. They are playing precision basketball. It's like they are a step ahead of the Cavs in every way possible. Its not all LBJ fault but he has to accept some responsibility. This is what he signed up for. He wanted Kevin Love. Well now you got him instead of being patient and waiting for Andrew Wiggins to come around. To get back in the series the rest of the team has to step up. LBJ can score 35 but if the cast around him is firing blanks it won't mean a thing. Draymond Green has proven me wrong this series. I knew he was a baller but after watching him during the OKC series I had put him in the Lance Stephenson category as in he could only flourish in a system with other stars leading the way and he may not be effective on a bad team. Even though he's not one of my favorite players he may just be better than I gave him credit for.

Good points, I admit I haven't followed the Cavs closely but it seems to me that the team dynamic that has developed now is similar to the reason Lebron left Cleveland in the first place! I'm going to be watching carefully tomorrow.

babynoz said:

phunkdaddy said:

babynoz said: Unbelievable isn't it. Back on topic. The Warriors have handed the Cavs their asses this series and the scary part is Steph Curry hasn't even warmed up yet. They are playing precision basketball. It's like they are a step ahead of the Cavs in every way possible. Its not all LBJ fault but he has to accept some responsibility. This is what he signed up for. He wanted Kevin Love. Well now you got him instead of being patient and waiting for Andrew Wiggins to come around. To get back in the series the rest of the team has to step up. LBJ can score 35 but if the cast around him is firing blanks it won't mean a thing. Draymond Green has proven me wrong this series. I knew he was a baller but after watching him during the OKC series I had put him in the Lance Stephenson category as in he could only flourish in a system with other stars leading the way and he may not be effective on a bad team. Even though he's not one of my favorite players he may just be better than I gave him credit for.

Good points, I admit I haven't followed the Cavs closely but it seems to me that the team dynamic that has developed now is similar to the reason Lebron left Cleveland in the first place! I'm going to be watching carefully tomorrow.

They signed every single player Lebron asked for.

Graycap23 said:

babynoz said:

Good points, I admit I haven't followed the Cavs closely but it seems to me that the team dynamic that has developed now is similar to the reason Lebron left Cleveland in the first place! I'm going to be watching carefully tomorrow.

They signed every single player Lebron asked for.

Give me some analysis. What was the team dynamic before Lebron left as opposed to his stint with the Heat vs the dynamic with the current team.

I am one of those who see it as a team sport.

Graycap23 said:

namepeace said:

Love isn't a banger. He'd be more at home with GS.

Irving is a defensive liability and that's probably killing his confidence on the Finals stage. If Smith isn't hitting shots he disappears completely.

The Cavs don't have "glue" guys like GS has with Iguodala and Dray. They need more Tony Allen types on their team. But the Cavs' rosters in the LBJ eras have always lacked something.

Didn't Lebron the GM build this team?

I do know he wanted Kevin Love. Would the Cavs have been better off keeping Wiggins? Who knows?

mjscarousal said:

phunkdaddy said:

mjscarousal said: I don't know if you're dumb or you just play dumb to get a rise out of people. Now in addition to being a spin doctor on the org you're adding psychologist to your resume. So if someone curse in a post it means their angry? When I stated several posts ago my work is done here I simply implied I was done with the discussion for that day which i was. Some of us actually work for a living and don't blog all damn day. Excuse me for not breaking that down in laymens term. The only reason I have taken the time to respond to your posts because I'm on my off days and challenged you to defend your position but you keep running and ducking behind other nonsense that has nothing to do with what we were debating about. 3 other people have challenged your position and you've done nothing but talk in circles. Now you wanna lie and say I attacked Graycap. Then when I ask you to point it out you run behind other nonsense. The fact of the mater is Gray and I discussion has been civil. You also lied and said I have jumped down othes throat when it comes to the discussion of LBJ. You can't back that up in this thread either. I've only debated you and Gray in this thread on LBJ. Please provide proof where I've attacked others. Hell i will challenge you to find proof where I've attacked anybody this season on LBJ. I will send you a money order for 25 dollars if you could find proof. I'm ready to put it all to rest because it's become one big circle and you're just gonna ON and ON and ON being the spin doctor you are.

You are bothered for some reason about my opinion on LBJ and this discussion. You have turned a light hearted fun topic around and derailed. I have been laughing and was enjoying the thread. You are the one getting riled up and has the personal problem, not me. You also have a weird odd personal problem with me that goes beyond this thread. Are you honestly arguing that "I am playing dumb" when you have been making personal attacks and bringing up irrelevant things that have nothing to do with this thread to make your points? You have literally gone out your way to make claims about my argument that have nothing to do with this topic but you got the nerve to imply I am playing dumb and Im the one upset?

You said you were done with this discussion and did not want to discuss this topic anymore with me because according to you I dont know anything about baskeball (which you are perfectly entitled to think) and according to you, "you are not bothered and dont care" but I am confused with why you are still here debating with me about my opinions when you said you were done. This is the behavior of someone who is obviously emotional and bothered by someone's opinion which you are displaying because you have gone to extreme levels to make a point......its not that serious. I am not running and ducking. I said earlier that I know your stance on this topic and don't bother to go back in forth because imo you can not be objective and open minded. I stated my opinion and have not tried to pressure anyone to agree with that unlike you and others with Gray. I did not lie about anything. You are not open minded in NBA discussions involving LBJ. Thats not a lie, thats an opinion that I have based on observation on previous discussions in this topic and which I am entitled too. YOU are the one that has not be diplomatic and mature with your constant personal attacks and jabs. I have not done anything to you in this thread to deserve any of that but I see you can not maturely have an adult discussion.You don't have to convince of me of anything. We will just agree to disagree, I am done with this discussion.

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babynoz said:

Looks like Kevin Love is out for Game 3.

Graycap23 said:

namepeace said:

Love isn't a banger. He'd be more at home with GS.

Irving is a defensive liability and that's probably killing his confidence on the Finals stage. If Smith isn't hitting shots he disappears completely.

The Cavs don't have "glue" guys like GS has with Iguodala and Dray. They need more Tony Allen types on their team. But the Cavs' rosters in the LBJ eras have always lacked something.

Didn't Lebron the GM build this team?

I wouldn't go that far but his fingerprints are on the roster. He lobbied for Love and re-signing Thompson.

The NBA Finals

Game 3

Golden State Warriors 90 Cleveland Cavaliers 120


The Cleveland Cavaliers came into this game not only having lost the first two games but losing in a couple of routs. In addition, Kevin Love was whacked in the head and had to leave the game with a concussion. He went through the concussion protocol, and was not cleared to play in tonight's game. Richard Jefferson would have to take his place.

But more importantly, would Lebron James and Kyrie Irving be able to overcome their struggles from the first two games, and would the rest of their supporting cast show up? Especially since they were coming home and needed to win this game to have any chance to get back into this series?

Well, at least for tonight the answer was an emphatic yes. The Cavs stormed out to a huge first quarter lead and never trailed in this game. Thy were propelled by Kyrie Irving, who scored 30 points while dishing out eight assists an grabbing four rebounds. Tristan Thompson had a monster game, scoring 14 points while also grabbing 13 rebounds. And J.R. Smith went from being MIA to fully engaged, scoring 20 points including five 3-pointers. Lebron James, despite turning the ball over early, led all scorers with 32 points while also grabbing 11 rebounds and dishing out six assists.

Menwhile, Golden State's celebrated "Splash Brothers" struggled in this game. Stephen Curry finished with 19 points but shot only 6 for 13 from the floor. Klay Thompson scored just 10 points, shooting 4 for 13 from the floor. Harrison Barnes added 18 points and eight rebounds while Andre Iguodala added 11 points of the bench for the Warriors.

Golden State leads series 2-1.

Graycap23 said:

babynoz said:

Give me some analysis. What was the team dynamic before Lebron left as opposed to his stint with the Heat vs the dynamic with the current team.

I am one of those who see it as a team sport.

it is a team sport....and he picked the team and the current coach.

Exactly, that is not someone with a "team sport" mentality. He is picking and advocating for who he wants on the team including the coach so its pretty much designed to cater to "his wants" not whats best for the team. The funny thing is that despite his antics, Golden State is going to win this championship. Way better team and talent, they deserve this!

728huey said:

The NBA Finals

Game 3

Golden State Warriors 90 Cleveland Cavaliers 120


The Cleveland Cavaliers came into this game not only having lost the first two games but losing in a couple of routs. In addition, Kevin Love was whacked in the head and had to leave the game with a concussion. He went through the concussion protocol, and was not cleared to play in tonight's game. Richard Jefferson would have to take his place.

But more importantly, would Lebron James and Kyrie Irving be able to overcome their struggles from the first two games, and would the rest of their supporting cast show up? Especially since they were coming home and needed to win this game to have any chance to get back into this series?

Well, at least for tonight the answer was an emphatic yes. The Cavs stormed out to a huge first quarter lead and never trailed in this game. Thy were propelled by Kyrie Irving, who scored 30 points while dishing out eight assists an grabbing four rebounds. Tristan Thompson had a monster game, scoring 14 points while also grabbing 13 rebounds. And J.R. Smith went from being MIA to fully engaged, scoring 20 points including five 3-pointers. Lebron James, despite turning the ball over early, led all scorers with 32 points while also grabbing 11 rebounds and dishing out six assists.

Menwhile, Golden State's celebrated "Splash Brothers" struggled in this game. Stephen Curry finished with 19 points but shot only 6 for 13 from the floor. Klay Thompson scored just 10 points, shooting 4 for 13 from the floor. Harrison Barnes added 18 points and eight rebounds while Andre Iguodala added 11 points of the bench for the Warriors.

Golden State leads series 2-1.

I hope this goes to Game 7, I am really enjoying these finals

Dubs better get it together next game, my heart simply cannot take another 7 game series!!!!

Mr. Clutch telling it like it is;

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/06/05/clevel ... xid=si_nba

uPtoWnNY said:

Mr. Clutch telling it like it is;

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/06/05/clevel ... xid=si_nba

Lol............spoken like someone who was 1 - 8 in the Finals.

Was he talking about Lebron or himself?

missfee said:

phunkdaddy said:

missfee said:

I don't know WTF is going on with Curry and Thompson but hopefully this loss can light the fire in them...just as OKC did. I knew Cleveland was going to try and win at least one at home. But GSW definitely has to take them the next game. No need in letting the guard down now. Funny, you take Kevin Love out the picture and then the Cavs miraculously know how to win. SMH. [Edited 6/9/16 4:36am]

I give Tyronn Lue credit for making adjustments. I didn't think he could out coach Kerr. He took advantage of Love's absence and defensive deficiencies and started Richard Jefferson which allowed LeBron to defend Draymond some. Draymond beat Kevin Love like a rag doll. I'm shocked that Curry has sputtered this series as well too but if he gets it going look out. I don't know what to expect next game but I expect the Warriors to hold serve at home no matter what happens the next game or remaining games at Cleveland. Not surprised the Cavs won but not in blowout fashion. I figured they would have won a grind it out 5 point win.

I wouldn't say he outcoached Kerr - Steph had TWO points in the entire 1st half, & Klay was out for a minute with that injury. Neither was particularly hot this game, & the bench wasn't on fire like they were at home. If not for Barnes, Dubs would have really stunk up that joint! Hope it doesn't happen again, Cavs were looking sweepable