Graycap23 said:

Lol....the refs call a proper game, the Cavs lose by 33. Next.

BOOM dere it is!!! Lol

Carousalcap23 consistently makes horrible arguments that do not hold. If we take his/her
comment here into consideration, it means then that when LeBron James does win a game,
the refs did not call a "proper game." This is utterly ridiculous.

By the way: refereeing is partially subjective, so a "proper game" is then partially subjective,
which then means how you view the referring is most likely biased against which team you
want to win/lose the game.

Carousalcap23--->

My Warriors continue to shine, however, just because we're up 2-0 doesn't mean that we got the series...yet. Folks are talking about the Cavs terrible just as they were talking about us just 2 weeks ago when it appeared that OKC was going to take the series from us. Things can change quickly. We're in a great position, the series with OKC trained us well but we definitely aren't out of the woods yet. I'm wondering if we are going to see a completely different Cavs team in Cleveland. My instincts say that much isn't going to change, but you never know.

missfee said:

My Warriors continue to shine, however, just because we're up 2-0 doesn't mean that we got the series...yet. Folks are talking about the Cavs terrible just as they were talking about us just 2 weeks ago when it appeared that OKC was going to take the series from us. Things can change quickly. We're in a great position, the series with OKC trained us well but we definitely aren't out of the woods yet. I'm wondering if we are going to see a completely different Cavs team in Cleveland. My instincts say that much isn't going to change, but you never know.

OKC woke the Warriors up.

missfee said:

My Warriors continue to shine, however, just because we're up 2-0 doesn't mean that we got the series...yet. Folks are talking about the Cavs terrible just as they were talking about us just 2 weeks ago when it appeared that OKC was going to take the series from us. Things can change quickly. We're in a great position, the series with OKC trained us well but we definitely aren't out of the woods yet. I'm wondering if we are going to see a completely different Cavs team in Cleveland. My instincts say that much isn't going to change, but you never know.

C'mon now, the Warriors got this. Like Chauncey Billups said last night, Warriors have six guys who can kill you......Cavs only have two. Take away Curry and Thompson, and Green will smoke you....or Iggy, or Barbosa, or Livingston. They come at you in waves.

Graycap23 said:

missfee said:

My Warriors continue to shine, however, just because we're up 2-0 doesn't mean that we got the series...yet. Folks are talking about the Cavs terrible just as they were talking about us just 2 weeks ago when it appeared that OKC was going to take the series from us. Things can change quickly. We're in a great position, the series with OKC trained us well but we definitely aren't out of the woods yet. I'm wondering if we are going to see a completely different Cavs team in Cleveland. My instincts say that much isn't going to change, but you never know.

OKC woke the Warriors up.

The mark of a true champion is how you respond when shit gets rough.

uPtoWnNY said:

Graycap23 said:

OKC woke the Warriors up.

The mark of a true champion is how you respond when shit gets rough.

Lebron's Cavs blown out i...als Game 2

CHI.247SPORTS.COM

mjscarousal said:

babynoz said:

Suuure you didn't, go 'head and backpedal.

Again, the ONLY thing I commented on was your false statement....

"If he is as good as they say......why does he keep losing in the finals?"

I have no idea why you threw all the other rigamarole in there except maybe to deflect from the fact you made a false statement about LeBron in the finals?

How can I backpedal when I never called you a Lebron stan?

I am waiting for you to quote where I called you a Lebron stan

Referring to how Lebron stans act in no way means I was referring to you. I never ever called you a stan at all.

Saying Lebron is "ya boy" in no way means I am calling you a Lebron stan.

This has been a very interesting and entertaining discussion nonetheless LOL

Again, I made one comment regarding your false statement about LeBron in the finals, that was the only thing for you to comment on in replying to me.

If uptown, phunk and ducci handed you your ass in the discussion, don't take it out on me because you afraid of them.

uPtoWnNY said:

missfee said:

My Warriors continue to shine, however, just because we're up 2-0 doesn't mean that we got the series...yet. Folks are talking about the Cavs terrible just as they were talking about us just 2 weeks ago when it appeared that OKC was going to take the series from us. Things can change quickly. We're in a great position, the series with OKC trained us well but we definitely aren't out of the woods yet. I'm wondering if we are going to see a completely different Cavs team in Cleveland. My instincts say that much isn't going to change, but you never know.

C'mon now, the Warriors got this. Like Chauncey Billups said last night, Warriors have six guys who can kill you......Cavs only have two. Take away Curry and Thompson, and Green will smoke you....or Iggy, or Barbosa, or Livingston. They come at you in waves.

True enough, but it ain't over until we get the 2nd trophy (with this lineup).

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uPtoWnNY said:

Graycap23 said:

OKC woke the Warriors up.

The mark of a true champion is how you respond when shit gets rough.

Graycap23 said:

missfee said:

My Warriors continue to shine, however, just because we're up 2-0 doesn't mean that we got the series...yet. Folks are talking about the Cavs terrible just as they were talking about us just 2 weeks ago when it appeared that OKC was going to take the series from us. Things can change quickly. We're in a great position, the series with OKC trained us well but we definitely aren't out of the woods yet. I'm wondering if we are going to see a completely different Cavs team in Cleveland. My instincts say that much isn't going to change, but you never know.

OKC woke the Warriors up.

Our matchup against OKC was the real championship. These games against Cleveland is looking like practice...not a game, but Practice.

missfee said:

Graycap23 said:

OKC woke the Warriors up.

Our matchup against OKC was the real championship. These games against Cleveland is looking like practice...not a game, but Practice.

I agree.

The East is a joke right now.

duccichucka said:

And I am now convinced that MJCarousal is either Graycap23 or they are crushing each other.
I've yet to see them disagree on anything!

uPtoWnNY said:

duccichucka said:

Yeah, if the "Logo" has a losing record that is more abysmal than James' current record, then
yes, he must be overrated too and the whole NBA is drinkin' "Logo" koolaid! Carousalcap23 is
simply out of pocket here. But what else is new. . .

On a side note, I think the NBA logo should be changed from West to Jordan.

Agree with your first paragraph, disagree about changing the logo.

Logo is not overrated. He usually falls outside the top 10 but inside the top 20-25. That's accurate. I see no reason to change the Logo.

uPtoWnNY said:

I just saw Jerry West's press conference - he defended LeBron and had the perfect answer to all these knuckle-heads. Great job, Mr. Clutch.

Wilt got a lot of this bullshit too, Dr. J, even Jordan - whatever they do, it's never enough for some.

I simply don't understand why people are so quick to discredit LBJ. Sure, he's got a losing Finals record, but he's exceeded the hype he came in with on the court. I've never seen people try to de-legitimize anyone else's titles the way they do James'. At the same time they make no effort to put the losses with undermanned/injured teams in context.

This whole thing about the officiating of James is silly when you think that every single superstar gets the benefit of calls and non-calls, Every one. And given his freakish speed and quickness combined with his size, he's got to be hard to officiate from the get-go.

He's an all-time great. He's also fallen short more than he's come up big. He will again this month. Both can be true. We'll miss his talent when he's gone.

Graycap23 said:

duccichucka said:

And I am now convinced that MJCarousal is either Graycap23 or they are crushing each other.
I've yet to see them disagree on anything!

babynoz said:

mjscarousal said:

How can I backpedal when I never called you a Lebron stan?

I am waiting for you to quote where I called you a Lebron stan

Referring to how Lebron stans act in no way means I was referring to you. I never ever called you a stan at all.

Saying Lebron is "ya boy" in no way means I am calling you a Lebron stan.

This has been a very interesting and entertaining discussion nonetheless LOL

Again, I made one comment regarding your false statement about LeBron in the finals, that was the only thing for you to comment on in replying to me.

If uptown, phunk and ducci handed you your ass in the discussion, don't take it out on me because you afraid of them.

I am laughing

This is entertaining to me.

Its fun to watch NBA fans cry and moan when ever someone criticizes Lebron James

Not sure why you think I am mad. It's yall who are mad and bothered.

And nothing was handed to me. I stated my opinions like a boss and stood firmly. I am not trying to prove anything. My opinions are my opinions.

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namepeace said:

mjscarousal said:

babynoz said:

Again, I made one comment regarding your false statement about LeBron in the finals, that was the only thing for you to comment on in replying to me.

If uptown, phunk and ducci handed you your ass in the discussion, don't take it out on me because you afraid of them.

I am laughing

This is entertaining to me.

Its fun to watch NBA fans cry and moan when ever someone criticizes Lebron James

Not sure why you think I am mad. It's yall who are mad and bothered.

And nothing was handed to me. I stated my opinions like a boss and stood firmly. I am not trying to prove anything. My opinions are my opinions.

[Edited 6/6/16 17:30pm]

Next time you step out of Music Non Prince try to remember not to bring a knife to a gunfight. Those dudes ate your lunch,

mjscarousal said:

phunkdaddy said:

Another flawed argument which further proves you don't know what the hell you're talking

about when it comes to the NBA. The Thunder did not sweep the Spurs in the 2012 playoffs. That series actually went to six games. Another flawed theory is to suggest the Thunder played harder competition in the playoffs that year. It was a strike shortened season due to the lockout. The Spurs were the only team to win 50 games in the west that year whereas the Thunder won 47. The Lakers and Grizzlies only went 41-25 and the Clippers won 40. In the East Chicago was the only team to win 50 that year but got upset in the first round by my Sixers who benefitted from

the Derrick Rose injury in the first game. Otherwise they would have been another tough out from

the Miami Heat. Indiana won 42 games that year and Boston with the big 3 (Pierce, Rondo, Garnett) still on board and playoff tested won 39. The Pacers and Boston were more playoff tested than any team in the West

that year but the Spurs and maybe the Lakers further disproving your flawed logic.

I should not even address the nonsense of the first part of your argument but I'll hit it and quit it.

How do you lose that game 6. Ask Tim Duncan who admitted he cost his team that game. Also I don't think the NBA could possibly in your wildest dreams rig an incredible 3 point shot by Ray Allen to tie the game. I don't think the Spurs defense just slacked off and said okay Miami you're suppose to win this game like the commissioner said. So you feel the NBA is rigged.

I got news for you Sherlock. People were making those claims when the MJ and the Bulls

were winning. Maybe you should just stick to the music forums because like Uptown stated you jus

can't come up with legitimate facts to back up your strawman logic.

Also the Thunder - Heat finals was worse than I thought. The Heat destroyed their ass in 5

games as supposed to 6 like I originally thought and LeBron owned Kevin Durant that series further disproving your conspiracy theory. The Thunder won one more regular season game than

the Heat in a strike shortened season. Don't know how you come up with the nonsense that the Thunder were the superior team. My work is done here.

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[Edited 6/5/16 17:34pm]

I am not sitting here claiming to be an NBA expert or defensively making indirect jabs and name calls at people just because they don't kiss Lebron James ass like you. Thanks for the correction! So the Thunder didn't sweep the Spurs that year, big deal? it still doesn't change the fact that they play and played much harder teams in the West than Miami did that year. I stand by that game 6 being shady as hell. Even before Tim Duncan was taken out that game, shady calls and fouls were made. I stand by the fact that Lebron and company barely won that championship that was not deserved and unfornately the better team did not win.

Thats not changing, thats my opinion. You are always defensivel when it comes to Lebron James in these discussions. I find it funny actually! LOL Its sad that you can't be objective or be maturely constructive when it comes to him specifically. No one here has bashed him not even Gray, just said some things he has done is questionable, he gets away with stuff and he is overrated when NBA tries to compared him to MJ which are legitmate arguments that most would agree.

Okay let me address your constant nonsense. First of all it's very comparable to your "I hate everything Beyonce in the Music Forums." I didn't name call you at all period. I don't give a rats ass how you feel about LBJ as a player or person. I'm not here to change your mind but if you're gonna make blanket statements that have no merit, then I'm just simply calling you out with facts. Now you're saying you don't claim to be an NBA expert but yet you make the dumb ass assertion that the Thunder swept the Spurs in the playoffs in 2012 so basically you just admitted I dunno what the hell I'm talking about I'm just here to run my yap about a player I don't like so I'm making blanket claims to defend my position but I can't provide actual facts. Then you proceeded to say the Thunder were the better team because they played harder teams in the postseason yet you couldn't provide proof of that either and I actually provided you facts that the competition the Thunder faced in the postseason were no better than the teams in the East that season. Then you said that Finals was rigged despite the Heat beating the Thunder in five games. Nothing you said amounts to dog shit.

As far as your childish stan rants. If it's directed at me you're waaay off base because I'm a fan

of the worst NBA team in the league which obviously goes over your head. Every time the Sixers play the Cavs I'm rooting for my team to beat LBJ ass so you make no sense at all. I don't own any Cavs or Heat gear and never even considered putting on an LBJ jersey. And yes it is sad that YOU can't be objective and maturely constructive.

If anyone is here kissing ass and amusing it's you. Your nose is stuck so far up Graycap's ass it may take the whole city of Cleveland to get it out. At least Graycap attempted to list facts for his reasoning and you just jumped on the bandwagon because it was Anti LeBron and nothing you thought of for yourself. And while you are sniffing Gray's every post on the topic I know he is smarter than to cosign on all your nonsense that has no merit.

Finally MJCarousal: LeBron Stans? WTF Are you 13?

That shit is so 2006

phunkdaddy said:

mjscarousal said:

I am not sitting here claiming to be an NBA expert or defensively making indirect jabs and name calls at people just because they don't kiss Lebron James ass like you. Thanks for the correction! So the Thunder didn't sweep the Spurs that year, big deal? it still doesn't change the fact that they play and played much harder teams in the West than Miami did that year. I stand by that game 6 being shady as hell. Even before Tim Duncan was taken out that game, shady calls and fouls were made. I stand by the fact that Lebron and company barely won that championship that was not deserved and unfornately the better team did not win.

Thats not changing, thats my opinion. You are always defensivel when it comes to Lebron James in these discussions. I find it funny actually! LOL Its sad that you can't be objective or be maturely constructive when it comes to him specifically. No one here has bashed him not even Gray, just said some things he has done is questionable, he gets away with stuff and he is overrated when NBA tries to compared him to MJ which are legitmate arguments that most would agree.

Okay let me address your constant nonsense. First of all it's very comparable to your "I hate everything Beyonce in the Music Forums." I didn't name call you at all period. I don't give a rats ass how you feel about LBJ as a player or person. I'm not here to change your mind but if you're gonna make blanket statements that have no merit, then I'm just simply calling you out with facts. Now you're saying you don't claim to be an NBA expert but yet you make the dumb ass assertion that the Thunder swept the Spurs in the playoffs in 2012 so basically you just admitted I dunno what the hell I'm talking about I'm just here to run my yap about a player I don't like so I'm making blanket claims to defend my position but I can't provide actual facts. Then you proceeded to say the Thunder were the better team because they played harder teams in the postseason yet you couldn't provide proof of that either and I actually provided you facts that the competition the Thunder faced in the postseason were no better than the teams in the East that season. Then you said that Finals was rigged despite the Heat beating the Thunder in five games. Nothing you said amounts to dog shit.

As far as your childish stan rants. If it's directed at me you're waaay off base because I'm a fan

of the worst NBA team in the league which obviously goes over your head. Every time the Sixers play the Cavs I'm rooting for my team to beat LBJ ass so you make no sense at all. I don't own any Cavs or Heat gear and never even considered putting on an LBJ jersey. And yes it is sad that YOU can't be objective and maturely constructive.

If anyone is here kissing ass and amusing it's you. Your nose is stuck so far up Graycap's ass it may take the whole city of Cleveland to get it out. At least Graycap attempted to list facts for his reasoning and you just jumped on the bandwagon because it was Anti LeBron and nothing you thought of for yourself. And while you are sniffing Gray's every post on the topic I know he is smarter than to cosign on all your nonsense that has no merit.

Finally MJCarousal: LeBron Stans? WTF Are you 13?

That shit is so 2006

You definitly give a rats ass because if you didn't you would not have gone back and forth like you have gone and you would not have made indirect jabs towards me all because I don't care for Lebron James and you would not have immaturely gone to desperate measures to bring up my opinions about Beyonce which have nothing to do with this thread. You don't have to like me but you look pressed and immature because that has nothing to do with this thread.

Yea you definitly give a rats ass and your post is embrassing because its not that serious. Arguing that Lebron James has stans. Arguing that some of his fans can not be objective when it comes to questionable things he has done is not an "immature" argument but I already know how you roll when it comes to Lebron James. You are very immature and fail to be objective in discussions related to him. Why are you still responding to me when you said you were done 2 posts ago? But yet you are not pressed mmmmm okay. This is all entertaining to me. I am laughing. I am not in my feelings and angry like you are LMAO! What does Gray's opinions have to do with my feelings on Lebron? Reaching for the stars I see. Why does it bother you so much that we just so happen to agree on similiar points when it comes to this topic? That has nothing to do with kissing anybody's ass. I have always felt Lebron is an overrated asshole whether Gray or anybody else agrees with that or not. I have said that plenty of times here so not sure why you feel I am kissing ass but this is stan logic, like CLOCK work! You clearly are a LBJ don't need to front like your not, you behave this way on more than one occasion with other posters on this topic when it relates to him.

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Funny as hell. I figured the Beyonce analogy would get you all riled up.

That's all it takes. You know it's true. That's why you're hot and bothered.

Just go to bed and let the real NBA fans who actually know what they're talkiing

about talk ball and you go back to your little Beyonce and Mariah threads.

And oh thanks for being original with the Prince pic.

I've only seen it like 680 times since his death.

babynoz said:

mjscarousal said:

I am laughing

This is entertaining to me.

Its fun to watch NBA fans cry and moan when ever someone criticizes Lebron James

Not sure why you think I am mad. It's yall who are mad and bothered.

And nothing was handed to me. I stated my opinions like a boss and stood firmly. I am not trying to prove anything. My opinions are my opinions.

[Edited 6/6/16 17:30pm]

Next time you step out of Music Non Prince try to remember not to bring a knife to a gunfight. Those dudes ate your lunch,

I didn't come to participate in a brick wall discussion with Lebron supporters.

I saw an opinion and agreed with it.

mjscarousal said:

babynoz said:

Next time you step out of Music Non Prince try to remember not to bring a knife to a gunfight. Those dudes ate your lunch,

I didn't come to participate in a brick wall discussion with Lebron supporters.

I saw an opinion and agreed with it.

Because that's all you can do. You've yet to provide facts to back up your bogus claims.

Like I said go back to your Beyonce and Madonna threads.

You keep calling people LeBron supporters but no one here on this forum have said they are a

Cavs fan or a LeBron fan. You just can't comprehend there is a difference in acknowledging a players talent versus being a fan.

[Edited 6/6/16 22:52pm]

^ If you take off your irrational stan blinders, you would see that I already acknowledged that the man was talented a few posts back. I never once said he was not talented. Just that he was not as good as MJ and that some of his behavior is questionable which are the same points Gray have made and you have a problem with. Again these are legitimate arguments that most would agree but since you lack maturity in these discussions you fail to fairly acknowledge his shortcomings. Not sure why you are so upset.

phunkdaddy said:

Funny as hell. I figured the Beyonce analogy would get you all riled up.

That's all it takes. You know it's true. That's why you're hot and bothered.

Just go to bed and let the real NBA fans who actually know what they're talkiing

about talk ball and you go back to your little Beyonce and Mariah threads.

And oh thanks for being original with the Prince pic.

I've only seen it like 680 times since his death.

We are calling that an analogy now?

It has nothing to do with this thread and because you have some personal problem with me and because I don't like Lebron James (as you always do in all these NBA discussions whenever I comment on him) you bring Beyonce up to discredit my opinions on Lebron.

That is childish and shows that you are pressed because that has nothing to do with this discussion.

Its all good though

You act like I stole money from his grandmother...good lawd? Thanks for a very entertaining thread. You never let me down in this Lebron discussions! I can ALWAYS can count on you! Love when the Lebron supporters and stans get riled up. It is almost nearly as worst as the delusonal Beyonce stans.

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phunkdaddy said:

mjscarousal said:

I didn't come to participate in a brick wall discussion with Lebron supporters.

I saw an opinion and agreed with it.

Because that's all you can do. You've yet to provide facts to back up your bogus claims.

Like I said go back to your Beyonce and Madonna threads.

You keep calling people LeBron supporters but no one here on this forum have said they are a

Cavs fan or a LeBron fan. You just can't comprehend there is a difference in acknowledging a players talent versus being a fan.

[Edited 6/6/16 22:52pm]

Yep because its pointless to go back in forth with people who fail to be open minded. I mean seriously its ridiculous the way you have dogged Gray for bringing up legitimate points about LBJ.

Yep go back to thinking LBJ doesnt flop, go back to thinking LBJ is MJ, going back to thinking LBJ is perfect and doesnt make arrogant remarks from time to time, go back to thinking that LBJ never takes responsibility for his losses and dogs his team, I wont be losing sleep, go back to calling people a hater who doesnt kiss his ass, I wont be losing sleep

mjscarousal said:

phunkdaddy said:

mjscarousal said:

Yep because its pointless to go back in forth with people who fail to be open minded. I mean seriously its ridiculous the way you have dogged Gray for bringing up legitimate points about LBJ.

Yep go back to thinking LBJ doesnt flop, go back to thinking LBJ is MJ, going back to thinking LBJ is perfect and doesnt make arrogant remarks from time to time, go back to thinking that LBJ never takes responsibility for his losses and dogs his team, I wont be losing sleep, go back to calling people a hater who doesnt kiss his ass, I wont be losing sleep

Whoa sister you are really flying off the deep end now. I never said I hated you as I kind of skim over all the gibberish you are posting. Who the hell said LeBron is flawless? Will you get that shit out your head. Nobody ever said dude was perfect or the best player to ever play the game. That goes to show your hatred. Yes LeBron flops, he fouls, he pisses, he shits. I don't even get your fetish with painting people as LeBron purists. It's the same stunt you pull in the music forums. Now you're trying to paste me as a LeBron fan. That speaks desperation from you. I actually rooted for the Spurs to beat Cleveland in the 2007 finals. It pointed more to my dislike for the Browns than the Cavs. I just enjoy the city of Cleveland sports fans suffering without a championship. Everybody here that knows me from basketball discussions here before you bought your Johnny Come Lately ass here that I'm a Sixers fan and that goes back to to the days when MuthaFunka was a regular here. I won't even waste my time at the moment to post my collection of Sixers jerseys and gear I have because you aren't worth it. Please point out where I dogged Graycap. I just disagreed with his opinion of multiple violations every game. You obviously got me confused with another poster. Just like Babynoz mentioned you're so busy speaking out both ends of your ass you don't even realize who's addressing whom or the nonsense that you are posting about.

You must be talking about yourself because that is what you have done throughout this discussion.I have been laughing throughout this posts because there funny. I am in no way taking this discussion seriously like you are You have brought other things non related to this thread in order to make a point, cussed and insisted you don't give a "rats ass", said you were done but keep oddly coming back, belittle me as a person BUT then you got the nerve to say I am going on the deep in?

C'mon now

Why are you attacking Gray and I for pretty much saying the same thing? Don't act like you have amnesia now. You have not once acknowledged any of the opposing points that have been made about Lebron. Your argument is bizaree to me really. You keep insisting I hate Lebron James but all I have said in this thread is that He is overrated (because of the MJ comparisions), He has a big ego, He has done questionable things. Can you please explain how that is irrational hating? Those are simply my opinions which I have backed up and legitimate opinions that others also share.

phunkdaddy said:

mjscarousal said:

I didn't come to participate in a brick wall discussion with Lebron supporters.

I saw an opinion and agreed with it.

Because that's all you can do. You've yet to provide facts to back up your bogus claims.

Like I said go back to your Beyonce and Madonna threads.

You keep calling people LeBron supporters but no one here on this forum have said they are a

Cavs fan or a LeBron fan. You just can't comprehend there is a difference in acknowledging a players talent versus being a fan.

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The bizarre emotional outbursts are increasing, but I'll forgive her since it's Prince's birthday.