the walking dead writers:

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^Yes. I had all that anxiety, to end up not knowing a thing. But personally, I'm glad I didn't have to see a favorite get bludgeoned, that was a big issue. Wait and see the recap, 1st episode, next season it will be in all it's gory detail, Imma be mad.

^ they better not mnake me watch a favorite character die. subjectively 'feeling' it was bad enough (fade to black). i really will close my eyes if i have to watch someone's gray matter splattered across the person kneeling next to him.

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to me it's kind of fascinating how the writers are feed-backing the plot using live-time commentary from fans. they must be following closely how people react to each new development. like, market research .

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it's time to spark off some fan fiction, told from a walker's POV.

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although the walkers in walking dead may SEEM brainless and driven only by an endless hunger for human flesh, perhaps we could ease into their mindset for a few episodes.? we could edit the captionz from each episode.

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where rick says "we'd better get some more ammo," we caption it to "Arrrgggggh."

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when michonne asks rick for another bite of apple, we hear, "Gehhhhhhhhh."

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conversely, when a walker says Arrrggghhh! that means, "Curse the unfeeling fate that finds me imprisoned here in this meatsack of rotting flesh, unable even to cry aloud to heaven and beg for mercy!"

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or, when a walker says Gehhhhhhh that means, "How I long for days gone by, when I could walk briskly down the street instead of shambling along in a stumbling stagger. Once, I used to run."

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that sort of thing. if we made the walkers even more complex than the characters (using subtitles translating their Arrrggggs) we could make the writers say sorry. maybe. or, not. i really do not know.

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i guess i'm not looking forward to spending april, may, june, july, august, september, october just awaiting around for an answer. dang them. it's funny though. dang them.

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^ cameraman wasn't on Talking Dead though

btw? Ride With Norman Reedus..

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morningsong said:

missfee said:

morningsong said:

Well we know its not Rick or Carl because Negan said if anyone one moves cut the boy's other eye out and he guessed Carl is Rick's son, The way Negan kind of gestured seemed he was a good distance away from Carl. It could be Glenn and they're just creating a false cliffhanger, its the dumpster thing all over again. Outside of that I'm guessing Negan wants to really get to Rick and went at Maggie first to see who'd react the most. Make him choose between his woman or his son. They keep saying nobody's safe and Michonne would be the biggest shock because few would think it was her because of the comics but they don't always follow the comics. Maggie would be the next biggest shock. Abraham wouldn't be fair to Sasha's character but possible. Rosita's less likely still possible just not as big of a shock. Maybe the gesture was fake to throw the audience off, you know its going to be analyzed to its smallest detail.

Somehow, I'm really feeling like the victim is not a female. Anyone remember who was on either side of Carl? I'm now feeling like it could be Aaron, since it really didn't make sense for him to have joined them there. [Edited 4/4/16 10:42am]

I think the writers are playing the audience that the victim wouldn't be female just like they wouldn't kill a kid. And they always keep emphasizing that nobody is safe not even Rick, but we got the hint in Negan's statement that Rick and Carl are safe this time around. Actors leave and have other opportunities they want to persue all the time, so it's very iffy on who. All the main females have appeared on the more recent Talking Dead episodes, I'm guessing that was deliberate. Still it could easily be Glenn, the setup is there. Even Daryl, and they were misleading on TTD. Or the writers just haven't decided yet and are being swayed by the fans.

During the entire camper ride I was suspecting it would be Aaron, it's just his positioning that makes me think it's not him, he's right next to Carl and so is Eugene. Sasha's on the same side next to Rick. I'm assuming per Negan's gesture (and the tree behind him) those 3 (5 total) are safe.

watched the ending again; i made a mistake, where i thought Negan says 'taking it like a man', in fact what he said was 'taking it like a champ.'

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and yeah, it can't be either carl or rick, considering what negan said.

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also i made a little map of where people were kneeling and tried to follow negan as he went through his eeny meeny... but glenn switches place during the scuffle and the camera no longer clearly shows us who is being targeted when negan gets to my mother taught me to...

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clearly they are obscuring any hints. there is really no way to tell but i still tried

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let's do a documentary and blogcast it. we could get a crew together and trek into the woods where the last scene was shot and re-enact scene by scene and take trajectories and calculate angles and shit.

missfee said:

morningsong said:

Well we know its not Rick or Carl because Negan said if anyone one moves cut the boy's other eye out and he guessed Carl is Rick's son, The way Negan kind of gestured seemed he was a good distance away from Carl. It could be Glenn and they're just creating a false cliffhanger, its the dumpster thing all over again. Outside of that I'm guessing Negan wants to really get to Rick and went at Maggie first to see who'd react the most. Make him choose between his woman or his son. They keep saying nobody's safe and Michonne would be the biggest shock because few would think it was her because of the comics but they don't always follow the comics. Maggie would be the next biggest shock. Abraham wouldn't be fair to Sasha's character but possible. Rosita's less likely still possible just not as big of a shock. Maybe the gesture was fake to throw the audience off, you know its going to be analyzed to its smallest detail.

Somehow, I'm really feeling like the victim is not a female. Anyone remember who was on either side of Carl? I'm now feeling like it could be Aaron, since it really didn't make sense for him to have joined them there. [Edited 4/4/16 10:42am]

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i think they were kneeling in this order:

naw that wasn't it,

left to right: glenn, rosita, daryl, michonne, abraham, maggie, rick, sasha, aaron, carl, eugene.

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The order















The comic, that's been posted constantly since mid-season 6.

Was this the "it" angle? That changes things.

i think it could have been glenn.

OMG! fuck this! this whole thing is silly, it should have aired on april fools day and it's gonna have to go on hold for now. no more trying to figure it out

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morningsong said:

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Danai Gurira is unstoppable. As the sword-swinging Michonne on the hit zombie apocalypse drama, AMC's The Walking Dead, the Zimbabwean actress and playwright is also making history on Broadway by creating the first all-black cast and crew withEclipsed. She's also signed on to play the mother of late rapperTupac, Afeni Shakur, in the highly anticipated 'Pac biopic All Eyez On Me.

Billboard recently caught up with Gurira before she accepted the Star Power award at BET's Black Girls Rock! on Friday (April 1) to discuss her forthcoming role as Afeni, working with The Walking Dead's latest addition and her go-to fight songs.

michonne?

XxAxX said:

OMG! fuck this! this whole thing is silly, it should have aired on april fools day and it's gonna have to go on hold for now. no more trying to figure it out

I'll chill on it soon myself. But it's kind of fun, especially poking fun at all those who said they wouldn't watch next season if their favorite character gets it. They'll be front and center come season 7.

XxAxX said:

XxAxX said:

morningsong said:

http://www.billboard.com/...GooglePlus

Danai Gurira is unstoppable. As the sword-swinging Michonne on the hit zombie apocalypse drama, AMC's The Walking Dead, the Zimbabwean actress and playwright is also making history on Broadway by creating the first all-black cast and crew withEclipsed. She's also signed on to play the mother of late rapperTupac, Afeni Shakur, in the highly anticipated 'Pac biopic All Eyez On Me.

Billboard recently caught up with Gurira before she accepted the Star Power award at BET's Black Girls Rock! on Friday (April 1) to discuss her forthcoming role as Afeni, working with The Walking Dead's latest addition and her go-to fight songs.

michonne?

Yeah "Michonne" is busy. That's the suggestion I got. Go see who has a lot of projects coming up. Of course, that really isn't telling. A lot of actors have 2+ jobs they're juggling.


I'm just not looking forward to a heartbreak, is all.

missfee said:

XxAxX said:

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i think they were kneeling in this order:

naw that wasn't it,

left to right: glenn, rosita, daryl, michonne, abraham, maggie, rick, sasha, aaron, carl, eugene.

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Ok...then if not Glenn, it has to be either Aaron or Eugene.

That new angle that looks like Rick is over Negan's left shoulder in the background has now put Eugene on my list. And it's being posted everywhere that this event spurs Maggie into a big decision in the comics, I figure if they're mixing it up in the show and kind of appeasing the fans, then Eugene would be a catalyst and it'll be Rosita who is spurred into making that move.

Was a bit p*ssed at first that they pulled a switcheroo and didn't reveal who got Lucille. I'm chilling out now though and really loved Jeffery Dean Morgan, he nailed it.

I still think it would have had more impact if they'd have showed it. Not sure how much they could get away with on TV with that sort of person-on-person violence, but imagine if you'd seen everything and it was Glenn or Daryl. Would have gone down in history as one of the most shocking TV moments ever.

Personally I think its Abraham. They gave his character alot of closure in the last few episodes, he's a big guy so a potential threat t Negan, and in the comic Abe died via the same death they gave to Denise, so he has to go soon I think

DaveT said:

Was a bit p*ssed at first that they pulled a switcheroo and didn't reveal who got Lucille. I'm chilling out now though and really loved Jeffery Dean Morgan, he nailed it.

I still think it would have had more impact if they'd have showed it. Not sure how much they could get away with on TV with that sort of person-on-person violence, but imagine if you'd seen everything and it was Glenn or Daryl. Would have gone down in history as one of the most shocking TV moments ever.

Personally I think its Abraham. They gave his character alot of closure in the last few episodes, he's a big guy so a potential threat t Negan, and in the comic Abe died via the same death they gave to Denise, so he has to go soon I think

That's the thing people who were supposed to last longer died earlier, people who are supposed to be dead they're keeping. Characters exist in show not in comics. People who were supposed to be in the kneeling group aren't there. Personality differences. They've kept the basic bones of the comics but they've switched up what happens to various characters so much who can say.

I want Abe and Sasha for a while, that relationship came so much out of left field it'll be a shame not to see it go anywhere of substance. But then we had Denise learning and becoming comfortable to be the town doctor just to get her offed so that's not a dependable line of thinking either. Of course she did serve a purpose, save Carl.

Are we going to see Rick becoming a bit wussy now? He's gone through all these other mental states of just losing it, that would be a whole new level of bonkers? Him not being the dictator of the group for the moment.

morningsong said:

missfee said:

Oh and by the way...from what I see on Instagram, most people seem to think that it will be Abraham who got it from Lucille. Especially with him being at peace and talking a lot about the future. Of course when folks start talking about hope and epitomes, it's a sign that they aren't going to last too long. I sure would hate to see Abraham go though...IMO, I don't think it will be him.

It's possible, then it could very well be Sasha who makes the big change that Maggie did in the comics. But he's grown on me so much, it would be heartbreaking. That's the problem, there really isn't a spare here. No random dude they picked on the road, no guy we don't like. Everybody's been around for a while and has made some major contributions.



Ain't no way this isn't going to break Rick in some way. This is another position he has not been in since this has started, complete lose of control of his group into the hands of another. And the confidence and openness he was just beginning to gain and instill into them. I would think he'd rather die now.

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missfee said:

morningsong said:

That's the thing people who were supposed to last longer died earlier, people who are supposed to be dead they're keeping. Characters exist in show not in comics. People who were supposed to be in the kneeling group aren't there. Personality differences. They've kept the basic bones of the comics but they've switched up what happens to various characters so much who can say.

I want Abe and Sasha for a while, that relationship came so much out of left field it'll be a shame not to see it go anywhere of substance. But then we had Denise learning and becoming comfortable to be the town doctor just to get her offed so that's not a dependable line of thinking either. Of course she did serve a purpose, save Carl.

Are we going to see Rick becoming a bit wussy now? He's gone through all these other mental states of just losing it, that would be a whole new level of bonkers? Him not being the dictator of the group for the moment.

They said last night on Talking Dead that this episode was purposely breaking Rick back down from the confidence he had gained. The thing is...no one will have too much confidence after this. Rick looked pretty tore up emotionally, even moreso than before..Andrew Lincoln really played the hell out of that part. I really just wanted to jump into the TV and give him a hug, but that wasn't going to make anything better. It'll be interesting how they get out of this situation. Right now, I have no clue how things will go. I really will hate to see Rick going bonkers again but it's safe to say that the confident version of Rick has left the building...for now. These DAMN WRITERS!!!! [Edited 4/4/16 16:55pm]

I think all round the acting is off the charts, especially Andrew Lincoln. Last night's finale was such an ensemble tour de force. In all the hoopla about not finding out who died, that's been lost I think. Has anyone won an Emmy for their work on the show? If not they damn well should have!

As for Rick I really don't know what else there is to do with him. We've had the mental/losing it Rick, the scared Rick, the assured/badass Rick, the quiet Rick, the in-love Rick, the grieving Rick. What's left?

I haven't read any further in to the comics than where we are now in the show (just ordered the third compendium, so will be reading ahead again). I guess that will give us some pointers.

I hated Rick, their lives are in great danger and couldn't articulate a fuckin single word. The one gettin Lucille is Eugene; it's very clear why do you think Rick thanked him for everything and the hug with Abraham, it was a bye-bye au revoir Eugene.

The Walking Dead season 7 release date: New episodes will justify season 6 finale cliffhanger, say producers

TWD creator Robert Kirkman and the show's executive producer Scott M Gimple spoke about this rather unusual way of ending the season, citing their love for cliffhangers as one of the main reasons behind this move.

"As a fan, I love cliffhangers," Kirkman said on the Talking Dead (via E! Online). "I love that tension. If you read the comic books, pretty much every issue ends with a cliffhanger. I think that's a lot of fun."

Gimple and Kirkman also explained how this cliffhanger will play a major role in the season 7 storyline. "The cliffhanger isn't the story," Kirkman said, explaining that this whole episode was designed to set up "how confident Rick was going into this."

"This episode is about the loss of that confidence. It's about tearing Rick Grimes down, and that's the conclusion of this episode. The story of who died, of what comes next, of who Negan killed, that's really the story of season seven."

Gimple also promised that The Walking Dead season 7 will make it up to the fans for the season 6 finale. "We have to do an episode that justifies it to you," Gimple said of season 7. "We have to do something so great and so intense that you're like, OK, all right, fair play, and that's the challenge that we have. We're going to do it, we're going to deliver you something fantastic. We want you to be one of those people in that lineup. We want you to feel that suspense, that terror, and that pain, and we're going to deliver you a story next season that justifies it."