CarrieCee said:

babynoz said:

Cam got luv for da babies!

I am hopeful of a good superbowl this year. Lord knows halftime will be a bust.

Yeah...what the shit...Coldplay??? Big thumbs down.

Coldplay and Bouncy.

CarrieCee said:

kpowers said:

The blueprint for beating the Patriots has been established prior to yesterday's game. What you
need to do is to constantly put pressure on him. You need a fast pass rush and some DBs who
are quick in regards to the ability to recover if beaten during a receivers' route.

Although I live in Boston, I'm a Carolina boy, so go Panthers! I think Newton's physicality
and smarts in addition to having a defense that is so good, makes me confident the Panthers
can get it done this year.

Also, Newton's joie de vivre is contagious and adds something else to his play making abilities.

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I can't believe I'm typing this...but I'm rooting for Denver. If this is truly Manning's last year it would be nice to see him win another ring for his send off.

With that being said, Panthers are probably going to kill them.

duccichucka said:

The blueprint for beating the Patriots has been established prior to yesterday's game. What you need to do is to constantly put pressure on him. You need a fast pass rush and some DBs who are quick in regards to the ability to recover if beaten during a receivers' route.

Although I live in Boston, I'm a Carolina boy, so go Panthers! I think Newton's physicality
and smarts in addition to having a defense that is so good, makes me confident the Panthers
can get it done this year.

Also, Newton's joie de vivre is contagious and adds something else to his play making abilities.

[Edited 1/25/16 12:57pm]

I agree, you beat a precision passing offense with pressure, and I particularly think that pressure coming right up the middle, between the 2 gaps, is the key. Denver's interior linemen collapsed the center of the Patriots' pocket all day, which must have made it harder for Brady to see his small receivers on crossing routes. But it also gave the bookends a shorter path to Brady, who couldn't step up in the pocket most of the day.

The Panthers are built to jump all over a team without a decent running game, and Denver's has struggled most of the year. They can out-Denver Denver in getting to Manning, with their stud DTs. I see Carolina winning it by 10.

It's just Cam's year. He's got a little frontrunner in him, and I think he's shown up a few players this year, but he's come a long way in his pro career and he's bringing some fun to the game.

namepeace said:

duccichucka said:

The blueprint for beating the Patriots has been established prior to yesterday's game. What you need to do is to constantly put pressure on him. You need a fast pass rush and some DBs who are quick in regards to the ability to recover if beaten during a receivers' route.

Although I live in Boston, I'm a Carolina boy, so go Panthers! I think Newton's physicality
and smarts in addition to having a defense that is so good, makes me confident the Panthers
can get it done this year.

Also, Newton's joie de vivre is contagious and adds something else to his play making abilities.

[Edited 1/25/16 12:57pm]

I agree, you beat a precision passing offense with pressure, and I particularly think that pressure coming right up the middle, between the 2 gaps, is the key. Denver's interior linemen collapsed the center of the Patriots' pocket all day, which must have made it harder for Brady to see his small receivers on crossing routes. But it also gave the bookends a shorter path to Brady, who couldn't step up in the pocket most of the day.

The Panthers are built to jump all over a team without a decent running game, and Denver's has struggled most of the year. They can out-Denver Denver in getting to Manning, with their stud DTs. I see Carolina winning it by 10.

It's just Cam's year. He's got a little frontrunner in him, and I think he's shown up a few players this year, but he's come a long way in his pro career and he's bringing some fun to the game.

Right. And I'm reading an article (ESPN) that indicates that in 60 drop backs yesterday, the
Broncos hit him 20 times. I was absent the day from school when my math teacher did
fractions, but that's 1 out of 3 drop backs with Brady getting licked. And the same article re-
ports that Brady was hit 18 times in the season.

But here's my question: so the Broncos were able to do the things you said in your post be-
cause they (the Pats) didn't have a running game the Broncos 'd' respected. Well, how did
the Patriots win four Super Bowls? I don't remember the Pats having a decent running game
that made defenses play the run and not focus on Brady's passing attack.

I think Cam is too big and too mobile to sit in the pocket and get hit 20 times in a game. And
although I am worried about Carolina's ability to protect Newton from being slaughtered by
Denver's defensive line, I also don't think the Broncos' offense will be too much to handle:
Denver had the league's 16th best offense this past regular season. I think NE's offense was
ranked 6th and their team defense was ranked 9th. Cam has a shot.

Finally, I'm looking at this from a sociological perspective as well as Newton appears to be
a quarterback who is demolishing the convention that black QBs can't read defenses and
can only run. It is important for young black kids who are dreaming of being a QB to see
a black QB who is performing well. Even if I wasn't a Carolina fan, as a black man, I am
rooting for the Panthers.

And I don't mind Carolina going for the two point conversion late in the game. They are
probably still reeling from allowing Seattle back into the game last week. If you don't
want to give up two points, don't let me score two points.

Carson Palmer was playing how he did with the Bengals against the Steelers.

CarrieCee said:

I can't believe I'm typing this...but I'm rooting for Denver. If this is truly Manning's last year it would be nice to see him win another ring for his send off.

With that being said, Panthers are probably going to kill them.

I agree with you. If the Broncos have any chance of winning that defense has to bring it's A+ game.

kpowers said:

Carson Palmer was playing how he did with the Bengals against the Steelers.

Carson Palmer's best shot at greatness was the year his knee was destroyed by Kimo in the CIN-PIT playoff game. On the first play. That one play changed his career forever.

duccichucka said:

But here's my question: so the Broncos were able to do the things you said in your post be-
cause they (the Pats) didn't have a running game the Broncos 'd' respected. Well, how did
the Patriots win four Super Bowls? I don't remember the Pats having a decent running game
that made defenses play the run and not focus on Brady's passing attack.

But I remember the Pats having a relatively healthy O-Line during each of those runs. They didn't this time. In any event, they also lost 2 Super Bowls to a team that fielded a bevy of D-Linemen in their 2-deep capable of collapsing the pocket or getting to Brady on the edge. The 01 Rams, 03 Panthers, 04 Eagles, and 14 Seahawks each had decent individual D-linemen but didn't have the defensive line depth to bring such continuous pressure for 4 quarters.

I think Cam is too big and too mobile to sit in the pocket and get hit 20 times in a game. And
although I am worried about Carolina's ability to protect Newton from being slaughtered by
Denver's defensive line, I also don't think the Broncos' offense will be too much to handle:
Denver had the league's 16th best offense this past regular season. I think NE's offense was
ranked 6th and their team defense was ranked 9th. Cam has a shot.

Cam can kill any defense with his legs. And he's been a highly efficient pocket passer this season. That is why Denver will have to undo Cam by getting picks, which can be done with pressure or exotic coverages.

Finally, I'm looking at this from a sociological perspective as well as Newton appears to be
a quarterback who is demolishing the convention that black QBs can't read defenses and
can only run. It is important for young black kids who are dreaming of being a QB to see
a black QB who is performing well. Even if I wasn't a Carolina fan, as a black man, I am
rooting for the Panthers.

But Doug Williams, Warren Moon, Steve McNair, Donovan McNabb and others trod the same ground. Randall Cunningham was known as a running quarterback but set records for points from the pocket in Minnesota. That point has been proven, though today's kids don't remember them.

Unlike those guys, though, Cam, however, has incredible star power and charisma, and he's lifted the performance of the team as a whole. When he's on, he reminds me of my favorite athlete, Magic Johnson. The NFL needs that kind of star power as Manning heads off to the front office and Brady marches towards 40.

But, however good-natured he seems to be, Cam's antics have also had the effect of showing up the mostly black defenders he plays against. Still, him winning Super Bowl 50 could end the so-called "Black Quarterback" issue for good. Net positive.

namepeace said:

kpowers said:

Carson Palmer was playing how he did with the Bengals against the Steelers.

Carson Palmer's best shot at greatness was the year his knee was destroyed by Kimo in the CIN-PIT playoff game. On the first play. That one play changed his career forever.

He healed a long ass time ago!!!!!!!!!!! Once a bungle always a bungle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

namepeace said:

But Doug Williams, Warren Moon, Steve McNair, Donovan McNabb and others trod the same ground. Randall Cunningham was known as a running quarterback but set records for points from the pocket in Minnesota. That point has been proven, though today's kids don't remember them.

Unlike those guys, though, Cam, however, has incredible star power and charisma, and he's lifted the performance of the team as a whole. When he's on, he reminds me of my favorite athlete, Magic Johnson. The NFL needs that kind of star power as Manning heads off to the front office and Brady marches towards 40.

But, however good-natured he seems to be, Cam's antics have also had the effect of showing up the mostly black defenders he plays against. Still, him winning Super Bowl 50 could end the so-called "Black Quarterback" issue for good. Net positive.

...AND Russell Wilson. I think the future is bright for Jameis too.

SI.com has an article on how Cam Newton may be the next John Elway. I certainly hope
not as John Elway is one of the most overrated QBs of all time:

56% completion of passes
300 TDs thrown against 226 INTs (which mean for almost every TD he threw, he threw an INT)
Won 64% of his games
QB rating is 79.9

54% completion of passes in the playoffs
27 TDs thrown against 21 INTS (which means for almost every TD he threw, he threw an INT)
Won 67% of his games
QB rating is 79.7


59% completion of Super Bowl passes
3 TDs thrown against 8 INTs (which means for almost every TD he threw, he threw 3 INTs)
Won 40% of his Super Bowl games
QB rating is 59.3



Blech!


Elway was mediocre as a QB. I think the only reason why he is so lauded is because he
had sexy comebacks (pun intended) that were thrilling. But, if I was a GM starting a team,
I wouldn't want Elway near my team at all, with a 2-

uPtoWnNY said:

namepeace said:

...AND Russell Wilson. I think the future is bright for Jameis too.

Russell is on the early track for Canton, and Jameis seems even better from the pocket than Cam was in year one.

kpowers said:

phunkdaddy said:

kpowers said:

He healed a long ass time ago!!!!!!!!!!! Once a bungle always a bungle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you. And the year they were supposed to go to the Super Bowl with T.O and Chad Johnson they went 4-12 which prompted Carson to want out of Cincinnati.

Yes exactly. To say that injury lead Carson Palmer to lose that NFC game last week holds very little merit. Just drawing conclusions which doesn't really add up to anything. Just "throwing it out there". Palmer had a pro bowl season this year.

namepeace said:

uPtoWnNY said:

...AND Russell Wilson. I think the future is bright for Jameis too.

Russell is on the early track for Canton, and Jameis seems even better from the pocket than Cam was in year one.

I like Teddy Bridgewater too.

We'll see if Chip Kelly can 'fix' Colin Kapernick in SF. That's his type of QB.

duccichucka said:

I fucking LOVE how Cam responded to his critics. I'll bet these losers didn't write letters to the newspapers when Aaron Rodgers did his discount double-check or when Gronk does his endzone dance.

America's always had a problem with "in-your-face" black athletes, going back to Jack Johnson.

namepeace said:

phunkdaddy said:

duccichucka said:

Right. And I'm reading an article (ESPN) that indicates that in 60 drop backs yesterday, the
Broncos hit him 20 times. I was absent the day from school when my math teacher did
fractions, but that's 1 out of 3 drop backs with Brady getting licked. And the same article re-
ports that Brady was hit 18 times in the season.

But here's my question: so the Broncos were able to do the things you said in your post be-
cause they (the Pats) didn't have a running game the Broncos 'd' respected. Well, how did
the Patriots win four Super Bowls? I don't remember the Pats having a decent running game
that made defenses play the run and not focus on Brady's passing attack.

I think Cam is too big and too mobile to sit in the pocket and get hit 20 times in a game. And
although I am worried about Carolina's ability to protect Newton from being slaughtered by
Denver's defensive line, I also don't think the Broncos' offense will be too much to handle:
Denver had the league's 16th best offense this past regular season. I think NE's offense was
ranked 6th and their team defense was ranked 9th. Cam has a shot.

Finally, I'm looking at this from a sociological perspective as well as Newton appears to be
a quarterback who is demolishing the convention that black QBs can't read defenses and
can only run. It is important for young black kids who are dreaming of being a QB to see
a black QB who is performing well. Even if I wasn't a Carolina fan, as a black man, I am
rooting for the Panthers.

The Patriots have had good rb's those Super Bowl seasons. Corey Dillon, Antowain Smith, Laurence Moroney(before injuries shortened his career), Kevin Faulk.

Define "good" and "good rb."

i remember when the city of santa clara ca broke ground for the levi stadium

^^^Levi's Stadium under construction, July 11, 2013

it's a cool place to have the 2016 superbowl

there's lightrail sevice just outside the gates.

: http://blogs.mercurynews....egory/vta/

the rail runs from san jose to mt view and has a ton of local bus services that meet and the lightrail stops.

fans attending the superbowl will be impressed imo. see u there!

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Pro Bowl (Yeah I know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Guess I'm rooting for team Irvin since Decastro is on that roster. Is that the team Steelers fans root for in the pro bowl ?? Liked it better when it was AFC vs NFC.

babynoz said:

EmmaMcG said:

NFL releases memo regarding Raiders' interest in Las Vegas