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Thread started 11/16/15 6:24pm

Hudson

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Arguing with people who have their facts wrong.

I'm very good with facts. I don't have enough knowledge to be considered intelligent but I'm aware if I know something accurately or don't know it at all. I've come to the realization that elders just make up facts and then force themselves to believe them. And young people take disagreements so personally I just try to avoid getting into conversation with them at all. Do you let wrong people be right? I'm not talking about viewpoints just easy to prove facts, though usually not so easy in the place where the argument is being held.

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Reply #1 posted 11/16/15 7:14pm

KingBAD

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Hudson said:

I'm very good with facts. I don't have enough knowledge to be considered intelligent but I'm aware if I know something accurately or don't know it at all. I've come to the realization that elders just make up facts and then force themselves to believe them. And young people take disagreements so personally I just try to avoid getting into conversation with them at all. Do you let wrong people be right? I'm not talking about viewpoints just easy to prove facts, though usually not so easy in the place where the argument is being held.

it depends on what yo relation is to the person.

harmony is always perferred HOWEVER, in the beginnin

its best you let people know how you stand on bein exposed to bullshit.

if they gonna be around you often there is no readon to subject yo'self

to listenin to anybody's shit...

HOLIDAYS... its that time of year to start plannin how to go about bein in

"the other part of the house" er time that one or two relatives are in the other...

cause you know you have to do it while not lookin like that's what you doin. i'm a pro....

THE SHORT ANSWER: do you wanna be right or happy... if you can be happy bein right, be right.

i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT...
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Reply #2 posted 11/16/15 7:23pm

KingBAD

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Law 44

"Disarm and Infuriate with the Mirror Effect
The mirror reflects reality, but it is also the perfect tool for deception: When you mirror your enemies, doing exactly as they do, they cannot figure out your strategy. The Mirror Effect mocks and humiliates them, making them overreact. By holding up a mirror to their psyches, you seduce them with the illusion that you share their values; by holding up a mirror to their actions, you teach them a lesson. Few can resist the power of Mirror Effect." (Greene, Robert The 48 Laws of Power)
if you're up for some fun with them, do this.

when they call you on yo shit ask "why, what is wrong about what i said?"

when they give it to you in detail ask "how is it yo logic says this now BUT

when you fukkkin up facts you can't see yo own logic?"

i have used this gambit to end most further conversation... once they

unnastan that you know what you know and fukkk they feelins

they become the ones that anticipate bein anywhere in the house you ain't.

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT...
evilking
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Reply #3 posted 11/16/15 7:26pm

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Hudson said:

I'm very good with facts. I don't have enough knowledge to be considered intelligent but I'm aware if I know something accurately or don't know it at all. I've come to the realization that elders just make up facts and then force themselves to believe them. And young people take disagreements so personally I just try to avoid getting into conversation with them at all. Do you let wrong people be right? I'm not talking about viewpoints just easy to prove facts, though usually not so easy in the place where the argument is being held.

No, I'm arguing with a race baiter from Africa living in Australia about the fact that George Zimmerman was not a white cop. He is acting like he knows everything that is socially/culturally happening here in America, yet #1 he has never lived here #2 he is only 24 yrs old but he knows it all...

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Reply #4 posted 11/16/15 7:27pm

Hamad

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Yes I do.

Either that or end up with a throbbing headache.

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Reply #5 posted 11/16/15 7:41pm

paintedlady

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I learned perception is EVERYTHING.



Some people NEED to be right, and being right is the sole goal. So they listen to repsond only. Not to gain understanding of your view or experience. It's a common problem, add to that that any intelligent person who considers themselves well read and well traveled can also be ignorant as fuck to an experience they know nothing about.


It's like any person trying to speak on an experience they never lived yet claim "expert" because they read a book on it, or knows someone who spoke of that experience over cigars and brandy.



I learned not to argue with people who are critical yet sensitive, who must be right yet do not seek to understand because they are blinded in their righteousness. I let them be right and leave them alone. Especially with hurt people. I know alot of old dumb people, a lot of dumb educated people, mean spirited religious people, people who are so jaded they can't see past their own pain to heal so they cynical with everyone... for all these people it is so hard to say "sorry, I was wrong". I let those people be right, because there is always a middle ground in any disagreement. Those who do not want to achieve a middle ground I think "fuck them" and move on. I may still speak to them but I do not argue ... I realized that if I am right, I do not need that validation of proving them wrong. Their opinion of me is worthless anyway.


If a person has understanding and is openminded, then I will argue with them, because in that disagreement, I always learn something from myself and them. I walk away with a healthy respect, and satisfified knowing I learned someonthing, right or wrong, from the exchange.


Now, in any exchange I never approach it in arrogance. "I am so smart..." fuck that! You can be wrong if you are smart too. Each situation is different and you will never learn anything when you come into any discussion without some humility and wisdom to see if you may be wrong. am not saying everyone should second guess themselves, I am saying stay humble because no one likes a know-it-all.... they are annoying as fuck and dumb and shit because they can never see past their own understanding.

twocents

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Reply #6 posted 11/16/15 11:47pm

Lianachan

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[Edited 11/17/15 1:01am]
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge"" ~ Isaac Asimov
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Reply #7 posted 11/17/15 8:19am

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Reply #8 posted 11/17/15 9:25am

Cinny

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paintedlady said:

I learned perception is EVERYTHING.



Some people NEED to be right, and being right is the sole goal. So they listen to repsond only. Not to gain understanding of your view or experience. It's a common problem, add to that that any intelligent person who considers themselves well read and well traveled can also be ignorant as fuck to an experience they know nothing about.

This is when I have to "agree to disagree". If I love the person, I will let them believe they are right and move on.

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Reply #9 posted 11/17/15 9:26am

Cinny

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Gee, holidays with the relatives are coming up, eh? smile

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Reply #10 posted 11/17/15 9:29am

Cinny

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I was sitting in a food court yesterday at a table next to an old man. Then his intelligent grandson (college material) sat down with him. They started talking world politics. The old man just kept spouting racist rhetoric, and the grandson challenged him "but what is that based on??" HAHA

Gosh, I couldn't finish my food fast enough. neutral

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Reply #11 posted 11/17/15 11:11am

Genesia

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Cinny said:

I was sitting in a food court yesterday at a table next to an old man. Then his intelligent grandson (college material) sat down with him. They started talking world politics. The old man just kept spouting racist rhetoric, and the grandson challenged him "but what is that based on??" HAHA

Gosh, I couldn't finish my food fast enough. neutral


Like what?

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Reply #12 posted 11/17/15 8:45pm

IheartCali

If they are not important people to you then why waste time...just let them believe what they want.

Although on certain topics I do get heated but if the person doesn't listen after I try a couple or three times, I just back off. Sometimes some people can even get physically aggressive in arguments and that always scares me...

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Reply #13 posted 11/18/15 7:53am

Cinny

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Genesia said:

Cinny said:

I was sitting in a food court yesterday at a table next to an old man. Then his intelligent grandson (college material) sat down with him. They started talking world politics. The old man just kept spouting racist rhetoric, and the grandson challenged him "but what is that based on??" HAHA

Gosh, I couldn't finish my food fast enough. neutral


Like what?

He covered a range of topics, immigration isn't right, children of interracial parents have increased birth defects, etc.

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Reply #14 posted 11/18/15 8:14am

free2bfreeda

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fact finding is VERY important to me. (factless opinions) usually stem from those who are like Singing Parrot emoticon (Bird emoticons) mindless parrots.

“Transracial is a term that has long since been defined as the adoption of a child that is of a different race than the adoptive parents,” : https://thinkprogress.org...fb6e18544a
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Reply #15 posted 11/18/15 9:26am

KingBAD

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free2bfreeda said:

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fact finding is VERY important to me. (factless opinions) usually stem from those who are like Singing Parrot emoticon (Bird emoticons) mindless parrots.

:APPLAUSE:

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i am KING BAD!!!
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evilking
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Reply #16 posted 11/18/15 5:34pm

Revolution

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I work with a guy who is always giving bad info. I dont correct him though usually. Its not that important to me.
Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind.
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Reply #17 posted 11/18/15 8:03pm

mrsquirrel

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I work with a guy who is always giving bad info. I dont correct him though usually. Its not that important to me.

Wow, I hope it's IT shit or MI6

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Reply #18 posted 11/19/15 10:01am

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XxAxX said:



lol
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