TonyVanDam said:

Cinny said:

TonyVanDam said:

Bullshit.

No, that's pretty much what I discovered as well.

Except it's not "all".

TonyVanDam said:

Cinny said:

No, that's pretty much what I discovered as well.

Except it's not "all".

Fair enough.

The illuminati was an entertaining subject to look up for a while at least. I remember it being a heavy subject when Rihanna's "Umbrella" came out, there was even a youtube video dismantling all of the supposed subliminal messages.

But when names such as Quincy Jones, Duke Ellington, Michael Jackson and a plethora of talented musicians get name checked. I never could shake up feeling that whoever the speaker that brought them up makes it seem like they became more famous for an alleged "blood contract" as opposed to their talents.

What about those people who supported these musicians through out the years? Were they obligated to support them due to that blood contract too, or because they simply just enjoyed their music?

Be that as it may, Professor Griff sounds passionate about his message but still it doesn't resonate with me whatsoever.

Hamad said:

The illuminati was an entertaining subject to look up for a while at least. I remember it being a heavy subject when Rihanna's "Umbrella" came out, there was even a youtube video dismantling all of the supposed subliminal messages.

But when names such as Quincy Jones, Duke Ellington, Michael Jackson and a plethora of talented musicians get name checked. I never could shake up feeling that whoever the speaker that brought them up makes it seem like they became more famous for an alleged "blood contract" as opposed to their talents.

What about those people who supported these musicians through out the years? Were they obligated to support them due to that blood contract too, or because they simply just enjoyed their music?

Be that as it may, Professor Griff sounds passionate about his message but still it doesn't resonate with me whatsoever.

It was an earlier documentary by Lenon Honor that discuss the occult symbolism with the Umbrella video. Freeman Fly and even Vigilant/VC over at the Vigitant Citizen website wrote essays about the video as well.

Now the controversial issue about "celebrity blood sacifices" was first mention by a former YouTube member who is a member of the Black Hebrew Israelites. His (racist) religious background was enough for even a conspiracy researcher like myself to have reasonable doubts about some of the information. And the segment that dude did about Prince did NOT sit well with any of my fellow orgers at the time.

To be honest, I think those symbols say more about the photographer or director, and sometimes those are the games the director has to play in his work rather than the singer.

They served the artists, PR wise, in the sense that it made people talk. Especially when you put dogma into consideration, arguments like these will be generated. Again, serving the artists' popularity.

I'm not a consipracy theorist, I think that the artists' output determines whether they'll endure in this business or not.

Professor Griff isn't crazy, he's an idiot.

Cinny said:

To be honest, I think those symbols say more about the photographer or director, and sometimes those are the games the director has to play in his work rather than the singer.

Of course it does.

TD3 said:

Professor Griff isn't crazy, he's an idiot.

Be specific. Why do you think Griff is an idiot?

Is it a good or a bad thing that he said a good thing about Prince?

"Why do you think he had Slave written on the side of his face? He knew about the industry!"

I, for one, hail Griff. The thing he said about Jews was out of context and he specifically told the story in full detail to one reporter a few years back. And he did say that he doesn't have a problem with gay people. He's too smart for harrasing a group of people like the black community is dealing with. The fucking guy robbed crack dealers to fund his teaching center back in the early days of PE, now who's gangsta Dr Dre? Teaching martial arts and forming the S1W. Big love to Griff.

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I can deal with Griff better without ZaZa....can't stand her. She seems to set him off in the wrong direction.


I did not know he was in an accident. There is a GoFundMe page for him.....

http://www.gofundme.com/pegriff2015

babynoz said:

I can deal with Griff better without ZaZa....can't stand her. She seems to set him off in the wrong direction.


I did not know he was in an accident. There is a GoFundMe page for him.....

http://www.gofundme.com/pegriff2015

THAT^ is exactly what I, Tariq Nasheed, Jason Black, and a few other people have been thinking as of late.

And I'm convince that Griff & Zaza are in a relationship and she's somewhat contolling.

EDIT for spelling.

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TonyVanDam said:

babynoz said:

I can deal with Griff better without ZaZa....can't stand her. She seems to set him off in the wrong direction.


I did not know he was in an accident. There is a GoFundMe page for him.....

http://www.gofundme.com/pegriff2015

THAT^ is exactly what I, Tariq Nasheed, Jason Black, and a few other people have been think as of late.

And I'm convince that Griff & Zaza are in a relationship and she's somewhat contolling.

Yep....I agree.

What did they say about ISIS on radio? I didn't check out the program. Please don't tell me they're supporting those assholes.