surprised that nobody posted this before, since it happened days ago

hope all european orgers are alright?

terrorist or suicidal wacko? we'll know soon enough

The co-pilot of the Airbus A320 that crashed on Tuesday, killing 150 people, appears to have deliberately flown the plane into a mountain after locking the flight commander out of the cockpit.

During the last eight minutes of the flight, the co-pilot “voluntarily” carried out actions that led to the destruction of the aircraft, Brice Robin, a French public prosecutor, said at a press conference in Marseille.

Robin said the co-pilot could be heard breathing right up until the point of impact, suggesting he had not lost consciousness. However, he failed to respond to increasingly desperate calls from the commander trying to break down the cockpit door, or to air traffic controllers.

Robin named the co-pilot as 28-year-old Andreas Lubitz and outlined the last moments of the doomed plane in a chilling account of his actions.

“For the first 20 minutes of the flight, the pilots spoke in a normal way, you could say cheerful and courteous,” Robin said. “We heard the flight commander prepare the briefing for landing at Düsseldorf and the response of the co-pilot seemed laconic. Then we heard the commander ask the co-pilot to take the controls.

“We heard at the same time the sound of a seat being pushed back and the sound of a door closing.”

Robin said it was assumed that the flight commander needed to go to “satisfy natural needs” – in other words, use the toilet.

“At that moment, the co-pilot was alone at the controls and it was while he was alone that the co-pilot manipulated the flight monitoring system to action the descent of the plane. The action of selecting the altitude could only have been done voluntarily,” Robin said.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/26/germanwings-flight-4u9525-deliberately-flown-into-mountain-says-prosecutor

[Edited 3/26/15 13:14pm]

Unbelievalbe. Another horrible man-made tragedy.

What a sad way to end 150 innocent lives.

I've been following this horrible story.

It's incredible. What could make a person do something like this?

So absolutely horrifying.

RodeoSchro said:

PurpleJedi said:

I've been following this horrible story.

I've been following the story too.



Germanwings crash: airliners change cockpit rules after co-pilot blamed – as it happened

http://www.theguardian.co...tes-4u9525

Absolutely heartbreaking.

NorthC said:

RodeoSchro said:

It's incredible. What could make a person do something like this?

That's a good question. I don't think we'll ever know.

There have been several similar incidents in the last couple of decades. Demotions, personal issues but yeah - humans are f**kin' horrible

and I hate to say it - but it's not going to get better - it's going to get worse

[Edited 3/27/15 13:59pm]

Seems like it was Depression.



I'm sorry but if you're going to commit suicide, there's more dramatic ways of doing so that DON'T involve hundreds of innocent lives.

After the initial shock and disbelief, there now needs to be a close and self-critical examination of the training process for pilots, their work schedules, as well as the stigmatization of mental illness. A pilot who develops physical problems can easily get help - mental health needs to be brought to the same standard.

PurpleJedi said:

Seems like it was Depression.



I'm sorry but if you're going to commit suicide, there's more dramatic ways of doing so that DON'T involve hundreds of innocent lives.

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I disagree.

There's no more dramatic a way of doing this.

This is the equivalent of becoming a terrorist just because the police force of your city deemed you unfit

this guy can go fuck himself wherever he is now...

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the guy sure was depressive, but he became a MURDERER when he did what he did, God knows when he got these crazy ideas in his head, perhaps the guy was planning this for WEEKS, the mf; apparently , he closed the door AS SOON AS THE PILOT left the cabin to go to the bathroom, so it's pretty clear that he got on that plane HELL BENT ON KILLING EVERYBODY, including himself

-also, it seems that an ex of his saw that he was crazy as fuck, muttering lines like "somehow, I know I'll be remembered"

fuck him, it's way beyond depression, he was a SUICIDAL MASS MURDERER WHO FINALLY REVEALED HIS TRUE COLORS TO THE WORLD

fuck him

[Edited 3/29/15 3:24am]

As my late aunt said, "Somethings can't be understand or rationalized, some human acts are just evil."

I'm not sure what his issues were but push come to shove, kill yourself. Leave everyone out of your struggles, 149 men, women, and children didn't know this guy and vice versa. What's even sadder, the co-pilot parents will have to endure his murderous acts until their last breath.

TD3 said:

As my late aunt said, "Somethings can't be understand or rationalized, some human acts are just evil."

I'm not sure what his issues were but push come to shove, kill yourself. Leave everyone out of your struggles, 149 men, women, and children didn't know this guy and vice versa. What's even sadder, the co-pilot parents will have to endure his murderous acts until their last breath.

With all due respect to your late aunt, it's our duty to understand. How can we possibly prevent a recurrence if we don't try to figure out the causes? Calling something "just evil" is the easy way out.

B1tchierThanEver said:

B1tchierThanEver said:

TD3 said:

As my late aunt said, "Somethings can't be understand or rationalized, some human acts are just evil."

I'm not sure what his issues were but push come to shove, kill yourself. Leave everyone out of your struggles, 149 men, women, and children didn't know this guy and vice versa. What's even sadder, the co-pilot parents will have to endure his murderous acts until their last breath.

With all due respect to your late aunt, it's our duty to understand. How can we possibly prevent a recurrence if we don't try to figure out the causes? Calling something "just evil" is the easy way out.

No it isn't...

Attempting to rationalize or find some pseudopsychology reason why some commit irrational acts is all too common these days. There always has to be a "reason" why he or she did what they did. This mans actions were deliberate, planned, and evil. I can't imagine the terror those passengers felt when they knew they were gonna die. I agree with JoeTaylor... this was an act of terrorsim.

TD3 said:

B1tchierThanEver said:

With all due respect to your late aunt, it's our duty to understand. How can we possibly prevent a recurrence if we don't try to figure out the causes? Calling something "just evil" is the easy way out.

No it isn't...

Attempting to rationalize or find some pseudopsychology reason why some commit irrational acts is all too common these days. There always has to be a "reason" why he or she did what they did. This mans actions were deliberate, planned, and evil. I can't imagine the terror those passengers felt when they knew they were gonna die. I agree with JoeTaylor... this was an act of terrorsim.

oh yes, it was

just as many terrorists kill themselves for religion or for their political views, this guy killed 150 individuals to get famous and exact his revenge on germanwings, and perhaps on the entire world

TD3 said:

B1tchierThanEver said:

With all due respect to your late aunt, it's our duty to understand. How can we possibly prevent a recurrence if we don't try to figure out the causes? Calling something "just evil" is the easy way out.

No it isn't...

Attempting to rationalize or find some pseudopsychology reason why some commit irrational acts is all too common these days. There always has to be a "reason" why he or she did what they did. This mans actions were deliberate, planned, and evil. I can't imagine the terror those passengers felt when they knew they were gonna die. I agree with JoeTaylor... this was an act of terrorsim.

Nobody's looking for pseudopsychology; dismissing it as such is again the easy way out.

How do you suggest we try to prevent a recurrence then? Or have you resigned yourself to the notion that evil people simply exist and there's nothing we can do to prevent them from doing horrific things?

NorthC said:

Latest news says the passengers were screaming for 8 minutes before the plane went down. They were fully aware of what was going to happen.

France says otherwise

Whaaaaaaaaaaaat???

NOT an isis, islamic, middle eastern,

terrorist???

NOBODY BUT A TERRORIST WOULD DO SUCH A THING!!!

well, unless they were amurderkkkan or non non white

KingBAD said:

Whaaaaaaaaaaaat???

NOT an isis, islamic, middle eastern,

terrorist???

NOBODY BUT A TERRORIST WOULD DO SUCH A THING!!!

well, unless they were amurderkkkan or non non white

Thank you.

morningsong said:

Do people sue in Germany like they do in the States? With what I just heard on the news, in the States, families would sue the heck out that airline for even hiring the guy.

yeah

the guy had been treated before, depression AND suicidal tendencies, so WHAT THE FUCK was he doing working for an airline???