TonyVanDam said:

RodeoSchro said:

I like Wesley Snipes a lot as an actor, but the truth is that he was not an innocent bystander in his tax situation. Not only did he not file his tax returns, but he thumbed his nose at the IRS and held seminars where he urged his employees to set up so-called "pure trusts" and quit paying taxes:

Instead of paying Uncle Sam like the rest of us, Snipes mailed long treatises to the government, arguing the IRS was powerless to collect taxes from him. He declared himself to be a “nonresident alien” who didn’t owe taxes. He accused the IRS of committing fraud, extortion and identity theft against him. He encouraged employees of his to likewise stop paying taxes and held a seminar at his home to convince others to use pure trusts and similar methods to dodge tax obligations.

He actually got off light. Although his sentence for three misdemeanor convictions sounds harsh, he probably should have been convicted of felony tax evasion. His co-defendants were, but Snipes was able to avoid that.

Here is an interesting and informative article about Snipes' tax situation: http://trialandheirs.com/...or-so-long

And you know why? Because Wesley's then-accountants were far more at fault for given him bad advice, plain and simple.

Maybe. But it was certainly anti-American advice that he understood and bought into. Heck, he even wrote letters to the IRS, telling them they had no power to collect taxes against him.

He was no innocent babe that didn't understand the faulty advice given to him by his advisors. He knew exactly what he was doing. Read that article. It's really interesting.

Here's the other side of the story. It's a recap from Snipes' lawyer. It leaves out a few things but it's an interesting read:

http://www.barneslawllp.c...ey-snipes/

Here is an article that details some of the stuff Snipes' lawyer's recap leaves out:

http://www.nytimes.com/20....html?_r=0

The Expendables 3 was ruined by these ssholes:

yeah, you get Wesley Snipes out of jail to immediately replace him after the first 25 min with these UNKNOWN/NON-CHARISMATIC brats

ugh, hard to believe that part 3 was actually WORSE than the first Expendables (a disappointment), and Harrison Ford looked like CRAP, painful to watch...

I can't see why they would make a fourth film, considering that the rest of the 80s/90s action legends ( Seagal, Russell, Brosnan, Nic Cage, Milla Jovovich, etc )...have expressed no real interest in the franchise...

the case of The Rock / Vin Diesel is curious; perhaps Sly sees them as too "current" to include them in the franchise...

TonyVanDam said:

Graycap23 said:

Snipes was doing his thing until he got snipped.

Wesley Snipes definitely had his moment as an action film hero in Passager 57, Rising Sun, & Blade part 1 & 2.

And then TPTB in Hollywood had to ruin every damn thing for Wesley by getting too involved with Blade Trinity, a film that I refuse to see even this very day because before the film's debut, I knew the whole story how they took creative control duties away from Wesley on purpose to make room for potential spin-off films series for his co-stars (which were never made anyhow after the fact!). And of course, Wesley's legal problems with the IRS due to bad advices given to him by his then-accountant also mess his career up quite a bit.

I loved when Wesley was doing his thing in action movies. You're right, an African American action hero is non-existent as of now....but there really isn't a main action hero existing period. In fact, the action genre has been at a stand still for a long time now. I'm actually quite pleased and excited that Stallone is still hanging in there and creating action movies left and right, especially at his age now.

I wonder if Carl Weathers was asked to participate (in some way) in the new "Creed" movie. Yes I know his character is dead, but creatively they could include him in somehow. Or would that make the film cheesy?

missfee said:

TonyVanDam said:

Wesley Snipes definitely had his moment as an action film hero in Passager 57, Rising Sun, & Blade part 1 & 2.

And then TPTB in Hollywood had to ruin every damn thing for Wesley by getting too involved with Blade Trinity, a film that I refuse to see even this very day because before the film's debut, I knew the whole story how they took creative control duties away from Wesley on purpose to make room for potential spin-off films series for his co-stars (which were never made anyhow after the fact!). And of course, Wesley's legal problems with the IRS due to bad advices given to him by his then-accountant also mess his career up quite a bit.

I loved when Wesley was doing his thing in action movies. You're right, an African American action hero is non-existent as of now....but there really isn't a main action hero existing period. In fact, the action genre has been at a stand still for a long time now. I'm actually quite pleased and excited that Stallone is still hanging in there and creating action movies left and right, especially at his age now.

I wonder if Carl Weathers was asked to participate (in some way) in the new "Creed" movie. Yes I know his character is dead, but creatively they could include him in somehow. Or would that make the film cheesy?

and he looks FINE, the only real HANDSOME guy in Expendables 3 for that matter,though EVERYONE knows brothers AGE a lot better than white folks...

the new Creed movie? are you talking about Rocky VII and the grandson of Apollo being trained by rocky?

JoeTyler said:

missfee said:

I loved when Wesley was doing his thing in action movies. You're right, an African American action hero is non-existent as of now....but there really isn't a main action hero existing period. In fact, the action genre has been at a stand still for a long time now. I'm actually quite pleased and excited that Stallone is still hanging in there and creating action movies left and right, especially at his age now.

I wonder if Carl Weathers was asked to participate (in some way) in the new "Creed" movie. Yes I know his character is dead, but creatively they could include him in somehow. Or would that make the film cheesy?

and he looks FINE, the only real HANDSOME guy in Expendables 3 for that matter,though EVERYONE knows brothers AGE a lot better than white folks...

the new Creed movie? are you talking about Rocky VII and the grandson of Apollo being trained by rocky?

Apollo could be a ghost like character.............

JoeTyler said:

missfee said:

I loved when Wesley was doing his thing in action movies. You're right, an African American action hero is non-existent as of now....but there really isn't a main action hero existing period. In fact, the action genre has been at a stand still for a long time now. I'm actually quite pleased and excited that Stallone is still hanging in there and creating action movies left and right, especially at his age now.

I wonder if Carl Weathers was asked to participate (in some way) in the new "Creed" movie. Yes I know his character is dead, but creatively they could include him in somehow. Or would that make the film cheesy?

and he looks FINE, the only real HANDSOME guy in Expendables 3 for that matter,though EVERYONE knows brothers AGE a lot better than white folks...

the new Creed movie? are you talking about Rocky VII and the grandson of Apollo being trained by rocky?

Yes, but it was my understanding that it wasn't being considered to be "Rocky VII" that it was just a spinoff type movie from Rocky but about Apollo Creed's grandson with Sly as Balboa, training him.

missfee said:

JoeTyler said:

and he looks FINE, the only real HANDSOME guy in Expendables 3 for that matter,though EVERYONE knows brothers AGE a lot better than white folks...

the new Creed movie? are you talking about Rocky VII and the grandson of Apollo being trained by rocky?

Yes, but it was my understanding that it wasn't being considered to be "Rocky VII" that it was just a spinoff type movie from Rocky but about Apollo Creed's grandson with Sly as Balboa, training him.

ahh damn, i wanted to talk about Wesley's GOOD looks...

I'd do him

JoeTyler said:

missfee said:

Yes, but it was my understanding that it wasn't being considered to be "Rocky VII" that it was just a spinoff type movie from Rocky but about Apollo Creed's grandson with Sly as Balboa, training him.

ahh damn, i wanted to talk about Wesley's GOOD looks...

To me Wesley is just ok. He looked his best when he was in New Jack City, Passenger 57 and Waiting to Exhale. I guess I like him better when he either has a mustache or a goatee or both.

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missfee said:

JoeTyler said:

ahh damn, i wanted to talk about Wesley's GOOD looks...

To me Wesley is just ok. He looked his best when he was in New Jack City, Passenger 57 and Waiting to Exhale. I guess I like him better when he either has a mustache or a goatee or both.

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that's...disappointing...

JoeTyler said:

The Expendables 3 was ruined by these ssholes:

yeah, you get Wesley Snipes out of jail to immediately replace him after the first 25 min with these UNKNOWN/NON-CHARISMATIC brats

ugh, hard to believe that part 3 was actually WORSE than the first Expendables (a disappointment), and Harrison Ford looked like CRAP, painful to watch...

I can't see why they would make a fourth film, considering that the rest of the 80s/90s action legends ( Seagal, Russell, Brosnan, Nic Cage, Milla Jovovich, etc )...have expressed no real interest in the franchise...

the case of The Rock / Vin Diesel is curious; perhaps Sly sees them as too "current" to include them in the franchise...

Bingo. But don't Antonio Banderas. I can't believe he lowered himself to do the part of a clown. It was disgraceful and he wasn't a very good clown.

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^who? I can't see the picture

are you talking about Banderas? talk about a STEREOTYPICAL spaniard character, wow, he even was out of a job in the movie...

JoeTyler said:

^who? I can't see the picture

are you talking about Banderas? talk about a STEREOTYPICAL spaniard character, wow, he even was out of a job in the movie...

I didn't think about that angle.

JoeTyler said:

^who? I can't see the picture

are you talking about Banderas? talk about a STEREOTYPICAL spaniard character, wow, he even was out of a job in the movie...

Yeah, the image didn't come over.

I felt bad for him. That was a career-destroying kind of part.

JoeTyler said:

The Expendables 3 was ruined by these ssholes:

yeah, you get Wesley Snipes out of jail to immediately replace him after the first 25 min with these UNKNOWN/NON-CHARISMATIC brats

ugh, hard to believe that part 3 was actually WORSE than the first Expendables (a disappointment), and Harrison Ford looked like CRAP, painful to watch...

I can't see why they would make a fourth film, considering that the rest of the 80s/90s action legends ( Seagal, Russell, Brosnan, Nic Cage, Milla Jovovich, etc )...have expressed no real interest in the franchise...

the case of The Rock / Vin Diesel is curious; perhaps Sly sees them as too "current" to include them in the franchise...

Wasn't that something else? To be so hyped about this 3rd installment only to be highly disappointed 30 minutes into the movie with that corny storyline..SMH. It was crazy. I really wanted to write to Sly and ask him to lay off whatever supplements he was taking that made him write that horrid mess. It made no sense whatsoever and defeated the WHOLE PURPOSE of the franchise....wasn't it created to highlight and show how badass seasoned action heros now in their 50's, 60's and 70's still are? Why are you going to replace them with younger, inexperienced no talent ass clowns? Urgh. If they truly going to go forward with the 4th installment then it had better be a continuation of Expendables 2.

As far as Sly asking The Rock or Vin to be in it, that would certainly be interesting. And who knows, he probably has asked them and they have declined to participate. We don't know. But I wonder if he's asked Mr. T. to be in any of them. I would love to see him in action...he would especially bring a strong sense of humor to it.

I mean we really don't need Liam Neeson to be in it (and I do like Liam).

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RodeoSchro said:

JoeTyler said:

^who? I can't see the picture

are you talking about Banderas? talk about a STEREOTYPICAL spaniard character, wow, he even was out of a job in the movie...

Yeah, the image didn't come over.

I felt bad for him. That was a career-destroying kind of part.

I rolled my eyes with the Ponce de Leon line...really, another spaniard character talking about the "glory" of the Conquistadores...wth...

missfee said:

JoeTyler said:

The Expendables 3 was ruined by these ssholes:

yeah, you get Wesley Snipes out of jail to immediately replace him after the first 25 min with these UNKNOWN/NON-CHARISMATIC brats

ugh, hard to believe that part 3 was actually WORSE than the first Expendables (a disappointment), and Harrison Ford looked like CRAP, painful to watch...

I can't see why they would make a fourth film, considering that the rest of the 80s/90s action legends ( Seagal, Russell, Brosnan, Nic Cage, Milla Jovovich, etc )...have expressed no real interest in the franchise...

the case of The Rock / Vin Diesel is curious; perhaps Sly sees them as too "current" to include them in the franchise...

Wasn't that something else? To be so hyped about this 3rd installment only to be highly disappointed 30 minutes into the movie with that corny storyline..SMH. It was crazy. I really wanted to write to Sly and ask him to lay off whatever supplements he was taking that made him write that horrid mess. It made no sense whatsoever and defeated the WHOLE PURPOSE of the franchise....wasn't it created to highlight and show how badass seasoned action heros now in their 50's, 60's and 70's still are? Why are you going to replace them with younger, inexperienced no talent ass clowns? Urgh. If they truly going to go forward with the 4th installment then it had better be a continuation of Expendables 2.

As far as Sly asking The Rock or Vin to be in it, that would certainly be interesting. And who knows, he probably has asked them and they have declined to participate. We don't know. But I wonder if he's asked Mr. T. to be in any of them. I would love to see him in action...he would especially bring a strong sense of humor to it.

I mean we really don't need Liam Neeson to be in it (and I do like Liam).

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some months ago I read a Brosnan interview and he said that ""yeah, it could be fun to participate in a fourth expendables movie, why not? as long as the script is good"

that's the problem with this franchise, the scripts are not strong enough (with the exception of part 2, which was a clear-focused attempt at both action/buddy comedy); I mean, if they wanna polish the franchise (Harrison Ford brought some "decency-gravitas" to the whole project) and make the fourth movie with people like Brosnan, Cage, Neeson, Jamie Foxx, etc. they need a better script, period...

Mr.T could be in it, but for some reason, Sly seems reluctant to include buddies from the ROCKY saga, other than Dolph...

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JoeTyler said:

missfee said:

Wasn't that something else? To be so hyped about this 3rd installment only to be highly disappointed 30 minutes into the movie with that corny storyline..SMH. It was crazy. I really wanted to write to Sly and ask him to lay off whatever supplements he was taking that made him write that horrid mess. It made no sense whatsoever and defeated the WHOLE PURPOSE of the franchise....wasn't it created to highlight and show how badass seasoned action heros now in their 50's, 60's and 70's still are? Why are you going to replace them with younger, inexperienced no talent ass clowns? Urgh. If they truly going to go forward with the 4th installment then it had better be a continuation of Expendables 2.

As far as Sly asking The Rock or Vin to be in it, that would certainly be interesting. And who knows, he probably has asked them and they have declined to participate. We don't know. But I wonder if he's asked Mr. T. to be in any of them. I would love to see him in action...he would especially bring a strong sense of humor to it.

I mean we really don't need Liam Neeson to be in it (and I do like Liam).

[Edited 1/8/15 8:02am]

some months ago I read a Brosnan interview and he said that ""yeah, it could be fun to participate in a fourth expendables movie, why not? as long as the script is good"

that's the problem with this franchise, the scripts are not strong enough (with the exception of part 2, which as a clear-focused attempt at both action/buddy comedy); I mean, if they wanna make the fourth movie with people like Brosnan, Cage, Neeson, etc. they need a better script, period...

Mr.T could be in it, but for some reason, Sly seems reluctant to include buddies from the ROCKY saga, other than Dolph...

And that's who he needs to get rid of along with Terry Crews. Dolph was fun to see in the 1st one but other than that, he doesn't bring anything to the movie or the franchise. He's kind of just there. And that whole disappearing act with Jet Li was laughable in the 2nd one, only for him to pop back up for 5 minutes in the 3rd one.

missfee said:

JoeTyler said:

some months ago I read a Brosnan interview and he said that ""yeah, it could be fun to participate in a fourth expendables movie, why not? as long as the script is good"

that's the problem with this franchise, the scripts are not strong enough (with the exception of part 2, which as a clear-focused attempt at both action/buddy comedy); I mean, if they wanna make the fourth movie with people like Brosnan, Cage, Neeson, etc. they need a better script, period...

Mr.T could be in it, but for some reason, Sly seems reluctant to include buddies from the ROCKY saga, other than Dolph...

And that's who he needs to get rid of along with Terry Crews. Dolph was fun to see in the 1st one but other than that, he doesn't bring anything to the movie or the franchise. He's kind of just there. And that whole disappearing act with Jet Li was laughable in the 2nd one, only for him to pop back up for 5 minutes in the 3rd one.

I think Dolph found its place in part 2, but he was wasted in part 3; Jet Li should have been a PERMANENT part of the team, who knows, perhaps HE was the one who asked to be kind of relegated to cameo status...

JoeTyler said:

missfee said:

And that's who he needs to get rid of along with Terry Crews. Dolph was fun to see in the 1st one but other than that, he doesn't bring anything to the movie or the franchise. He's kind of just there. And that whole disappearing act with Jet Li was laughable in the 2nd one, only for him to pop back up for 5 minutes in the 3rd one.

I think Dolph found its place in part 2, but he was wasted in part 3; Jet Li should have been a PERMANENT part of the team, who knows, perhaps HE was the one who asked to be kind of relegated to cameo status...

I read somewhere that Li's role had been reduced because of scheduling conflicts...so perhaps that was the real reason. To me, although he had more of a presence and role in the 1st one, he was severly underutilized. C'mon now, we all know what Jet Li can do and with the fierceness.

missfee said:

JoeTyler said:

I think Dolph found its place in part 2, but he was wasted in part 3; Jet Li should have been a PERMANENT part of the team, who knows, perhaps HE was the one who asked to be kind of relegated to cameo status...

I read somewhere that Li's role had been reduced because of scheduling conflicts...so perhaps that was the real reason. To me, although he had more of a presence and role in the 1st one, he was severly underutilized. C'mon now, we all know what Jet Li can do and with the fierceness.

There is simply no way 2 feature that many action stars in a 1.5 hour movie.

Someone will always be underutilized.

JoeTyler said:

The Expendables 3 was ruined by these ssholes:

yeah, you get Wesley Snipes out of jail to immediately replace him after the first 25 min with these UNKNOWN/NON-CHARISMATIC brats

ugh, hard to believe that part 3 was actually WORSE than the first Expendables (a disappointment), and Harrison Ford looked like CRAP, painful to watch...

I can't see why they would make a fourth film, considering that the rest of the 80s/90s action legends ( Seagal, Russell, Brosnan, Nic Cage, Milla Jovovich, etc )...have expressed no real interest in the franchise...

the case of The Rock / Vin Diesel is curious; perhaps Sly sees them as too "current" to include them in the franchise...

I hear you Joe! But you have to admit that seeing Mel Gibson as a villian was excellent.

TonyVanDam said:

JoeTyler said:

The Expendables 3 was ruined by these ssholes:

yeah, you get Wesley Snipes out of jail to immediately replace him after the first 25 min with these UNKNOWN/NON-CHARISMATIC brats

ugh, hard to believe that part 3 was actually WORSE than the first Expendables (a disappointment), and Harrison Ford looked like CRAP, painful to watch...

I can't see why they would make a fourth film, considering that the rest of the 80s/90s action legends ( Seagal, Russell, Brosnan, Nic Cage, Milla Jovovich, etc )...have expressed no real interest in the franchise...

the case of The Rock / Vin Diesel is curious; perhaps Sly sees them as too "current" to include them in the franchise...

I hear you Joe! But you have to admit that seeing Mel Gibson as a villian was excellent.

Mad Mel was easily the BEST thing about the movie, but still:

a) no car chase (he was once Max, for fucks sake)

b) final fistfight too rushed, and not enough Martin Riggs moves, but it was nice seeing Sly falling on his ass...lol

JoeTyler said:

missfee said:

And that's who he needs to get rid of along with Terry Crews. Dolph was fun to see in the 1st one but other than that, he doesn't bring anything to the movie or the franchise. He's kind of just there. And that whole disappearing act with Jet Li was laughable in the 2nd one, only for him to pop back up for 5 minutes in the 3rd one.

I think Dolph found its place in part 2, but he was wasted in part 3; Jet Li should have been a PERMANENT part of the team, who knows, perhaps HE was the one who asked to be kind of relegated to cameo status...

The greatest Dolph Lundgren story is the time some thieves broke into his house. Dolph was not there, but his wife was. They tied up his wife, but in the midst of stealing stuff, they saw some pictures and realized whose house it was. They put everything back, untied his wife and left.

http://www.dailymail.co.u...dgren.html

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RodeoSchro said:

JoeTyler said:

I think Dolph found its place in part 2, but he was wasted in part 3; Jet Li should have been a PERMANENT part of the team, who knows, perhaps HE was the one who asked to be kind of relegated to cameo status...

The greatest Dolph Lundgren story is the time some thieves broke into his house. Dolph was not there, but his wife was. They tied up his wife, but in the midst of stealing stuff, they saw some pictures and realized whose house it was. They put everything back, untied his wife and left.

http://www.dailymail.co.u...dgren.html

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I remember when this happened!!!

missfee said:

RodeoSchro said:

The greatest Dolph Lundgren story is the time some thieves broke into his house. Dolph was not there, but his wife was. They tied up his wife, but in the midst of stealing stuff, they saw some pictures and realized whose house it was. They put everything back, untied his wife and left.

http://www.dailymail.co.u...dgren.html

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I remember when this happened!!!

I wonder if

a) they left because they were fans of Dolph

b) they were afraid of the probable major police investigation, since Dolph is a popular person

c) they were afraid of him

d) a combination of those three options

love the title, it makes sense. rarely do u get perfect book ends as titles for a franchise. now is it BANKABLE? meh