KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Don Lemon digust me also. He is nothing but a modern day"Uncle Tom"! How can he participate yet again in bringing another black man down.!?

[Edited 12/8/14 6:41am]

This is a really pathetic post, even by your standards.

Interesting clip from a 2009 scene of 30 Rock:

http://classicajays.tumblr.com/post/103409794462/with-bill-cosby-in-the-news-for-sexual-assault-i

Maier transcribed the dialogue between "Rick," the Cosby impersonator, and Jordan in the scene:

Jack Donaghy: I’ve arranged for one of Tracy’s childhood idols to reach out to him.

Tracy Jordan: Hello?

Jack Donaghy: Tracy, this is Jack, I have someone here who wants to speak with you.

Rick: Tracy, this is Bill Cosby.

Liz Lemon: [whispering] Really? This is your strategy?

Jack Donaghy: [whispering and smiling] I heard him do this at a party!

Rick: I want you to come back to the TGS for the people who like the jokes and the things.

Tracy Jordan: Bill Cosby, you got a lotta nerve gettin’ on the phone wit’ me after what you did to my Aunt Paulette!

Rick: I think you’re confusing me with someone else.

Tracy Jordan: 1971. Cincinnati. She was a cocktail waitress with the droopy eye!

Rick: I’m the guy with the pudding.

Tracy Jordan: Don’t try to tell me what to do! Dr. Heathcliff Huxtable, wit’ yo’ light-ass kids! Jack! Why would you make me talk to this man?

Graycap23 said:

Interesting clip from a 2009 scene of 30 Rock:

http://classicajays.tumblr.com/post/103409794462/with-bill-cosby-in-the-news-for-sexual-assault-i

Maier transcribed the dialogue between "Rick," the Cosby impersonator, and Jordan in the scene:

Jack Donaghy: I’ve arranged for one of Tracy’s childhood idols to reach out to him.

Tracy Jordan: Hello?

Jack Donaghy: Tracy, this is Jack, I have someone here who wants to speak with you.

Rick: Tracy, this is Bill Cosby.

Liz Lemon: [whispering] Really? This is your strategy?

Jack Donaghy: [whispering and smiling] I heard him do this at a party!

Rick: I want you to come back to the TGS for the people who like the jokes and the things.

Tracy Jordan: Bill Cosby, you got a lotta nerve gettin’ on the phone wit’ me after what you did to my Aunt Paulette!

Rick: I think you’re confusing me with someone else.

Tracy Jordan: 1971. Cincinnati. She was a cocktail waitress with the droopy eye!

Rick: I’m the guy with the pudding.

Tracy Jordan: Don’t try to tell me what to do! Dr. Heathcliff Huxtable, wit’ yo’ light-ass kids! Jack! Why would you make me talk to this man?

i recall this show. the guy playing 'rick' was funny as hell playing the cosby impersonator. i had not heard anything about the allegations about cosby, so i just thought of it as a bit about cosby hitting on tracy's aunt, and perhaps dumping her. all of this has made me wonder why the press protect some people and not others. if it was such an open secret that the cos was into this kind of shit, why was there such a conspiracy of silence for so long?

CynicKill said:

SoulAlive said:

I was in the supermarket the other day and this story was on the cover of all the tabloids. I'm tired of seeing his face and hearing these stories! I know it's insensitive to say this,but I don't care about this scandal.Hell,I'd rather talk about Kim Kardashian,lol

Bill was and is not a powerful man. Pressing charges was well within these women's power. But he is a popular man, which would subject them to scrutiny. I get that, but so what.

sadly, i think there is some element of truth to what you say. i don't buy the fact that cosby was "too big" to point a finger at. mj was the biggest star on the planet, and it didn't stop anyone from saying anything at any time about him, did it? i think every woman on the planet has run into a "pig" like bill who tries to force himself on you. you put them in their place. that type of man will generally move on. he's not looking for a fight, he's looking for a conquest. it seems to me that the running thread in all these allegations is that most were looking to parlay their attributes into something, and were willing to put up with his unconscionable behavior. as i'm typing this, right now on the radio, there is a woman telling her story about cosby. the interviewer asks her why, if cosby was trying to touch her breasts and such, would she have accepted a key to his room? she has no answer to that. well i do. you were a star effer, looking to hook up with this guy for some future benefit. now this woman is saying that "the next thing she knew", she, like the others, woke up in his room naked. let me emphasize that i do not in any way condone what cosby is alleged to have done. no one should be slipping "knock out" pills to anyone to incapacitate them. however, i also see how an unevolved man like cosby would get the idea that if you're the type of woman who follows him up to his room upon meeting him for the first time, you might be the type of woman who's up for anything, and he's going to treat you accordingly. these women want sympathy and i'm finding it hard to find any. in most cases, they willing went with him, accepted the drugs offered, few questions asked, got screwed, and now feel humiliated and used (and rightfully so). i feel sorry for someone like lou ferrigno's wife who was just hanging out with her friend, bill, and camille playing pool, only to have cosby try to stick his tongue down her throat. she did what i would have done and got the hell out of his house. but the majority of these women? no, i'm not particularly sympathetic. i'm sorry that they didn't learn from their mothers not to accept random drugs from anyone, and not to send the wrong signals to pigs who are feeling you up by going back to their hotel rooms with them. yet, anyone who questions their behavior is accused of being a cosby apologist.

mjscarousal said:

Its really sad what they are doing to Bill Cosby. If these accusations are true then they should be investigated. However, I personally think these past jump offs are just looking for a pay check and jumping on the band wagon. So far nothing has been proven so why are people labeling him as a rapist? All this shit blew up from a joke a nobody comedian made and then a bunch of women started making accusations to media. Its clear that Bill trusted a lot folk that have turned on him. Im shocked with the amount of black people that have thrown him under the bus. Its not looking to good for his legacy at this point. Besides Raven, no other cast member from the Cosby show has said a word in his defense. That is very telling.

I do think its interesting that the 7th Heaven actor that revealed he abused children on tape, received small criticism in the media that did not last long and this Bill Cosby scandal (that is mostly filled with accusations and no investigations) has been going on for weeks, interesting.

[Edited 12/7/14 1:46am]

Well Bill Cosby is an icon and Stephen Collins is not (you didn't even mention his name, most people just know him as the father on 7th Heaven) It got alot of media attention but it has died down since both sides are not talking and there really isn't anything new to report. It will get attention again when his divorce with Faye Grant goes to trial and when the allegations of sexual abuse against minors goes to trial.

Graycap23 said:

Interesting clip from a 2009 scene of 30 Rock:

http://classicajays.tumblr.com/post/103409794462/with-bill-cosby-in-the-news-for-sexual-assault-i

Maier transcribed the dialogue between "Rick," the Cosby impersonator, and Jordan in the scene:

Jack Donaghy: I’ve arranged for one of Tracy’s childhood idols to reach out to him.

Tracy Jordan: Hello?

Jack Donaghy: Tracy, this is Jack, I have someone here who wants to speak with you.

Rick: Tracy, this is Bill Cosby.

Liz Lemon: [whispering] Really? This is your strategy?

Jack Donaghy: [whispering and smiling] I heard him do this at a party!

Rick: I want you to come back to the TGS for the people who like the jokes and the things.

Tracy Jordan: Bill Cosby, you got a lotta nerve gettin’ on the phone wit’ me after what you did to my Aunt Paulette!

Rick: I think you’re confusing me with someone else.

Tracy Jordan: 1971. Cincinnati. She was a cocktail waitress with the droopy eye!

Rick: I’m the guy with the pudding.

Tracy Jordan: Don’t try to tell me what to do! Dr. Heathcliff Huxtable, wit’ yo’ light-ass kids! Jack! Why would you make me talk to this man?

I have a feeling that NBC knew more about Bill then the rest of America.

The veteran driver is nicknamed “Mother” and that’s the only name he’s known by. He’s a man of simple pleasures: He likes getting massages from pretty ladies, keeping a fully-stocked cooler in the rig, and “buzzing” gaggles of nuns with his siren as they’re crossing the street.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Don Lemon digust me also. He is nothing but a modern day"Uncle Tom"! How can he participate yet again in bringing another black man down.!?

Meanwhile Ravon Symone & Debbie Allen hosted the BET premier of the "Hot Chocolate Nutcraker.

Don wants to remain relevant @ CNN so he will say shocking & racial Shit and most of the time social media will blow up...He is the self-titled undisputed King of Twitter..He's a great journalist and Anchor but it's sad that News Anchors have to do the "shock & awe" segments just to get ratings...The 5 Accusers he interviewed were very intelligent women and I believe that they believe something really did happen...They have ZERO proof on their side but they were so convincing...2 of the women were former Playboy Mansion Bunnies...The issue I have with them is that they want us to believe that Cosby is the only slime ball that expected Sexual favors or even forced sexual favors on them. The Playboy Mansion is and always will be a Whore House. I'm not saying the ladies are lying but they worked in a Whore House frequented by Rich & Famous horny Men.....They don't have the credibility factor on their side...

Chancellor said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Don Lemon digust me also. He is nothing but a modern day"Uncle Tom"! How can he participate yet again in bringing another black man down.!?

Meanwhile Ravon Symone & Debbie Allen hosted the BET premier of the "Hot Chocolate Nutcraker.

Don wants to remain relevant @ CNN so he will say shocking & racial Shit and most of the time social media will blow up...He is the self-titled undisputed King of Twitter..He's a great journalist and Anchor but it's sad that News Anchors have to do the "shock & awe" segments just to get ratings...The 5 Accusers he interviewed were very intelligent women and I believe that they believe something really did happen...They have ZERO proof on their side but they were so convincing...2 of the women were former Playboy Mansion Bunnies...The issue I have with them is that they want us to believe that Cosby is the only slime ball that expected Sexual favors or even forced sexual favors on them. The Playboy Mansion is and always will be a Whore House. I'm not saying the ladies are lying but they worked in a Whore House frequented by Rich & Famous horny Men.....They don't have the credibility factor on their side...

Exactly!

I watched it and I was like. Ok, you in the Playboy mansion as a Playboy bunnie. What man is not going to make a play for you?! Janice Dickerson is playing this,like it's the ROLE of her life! I have no sympathy for her whatsoever. I'm not saying the women are lying either. I was drugged once to. That is why I don't accept drinks from ANYONE anymore. But it's obvious to me, they all want money. Whether they say so or not.

I agree Don is an excellent journalist! But it's obvious CNN is using him to get ratings, for like you said "Shock & Awe". I believe that is why that other Anchor TJ Holmes left CNN. Don is going to regret everything he is doing now. I don't see how he sleeps at night. He has done a total 180 on how he use to be. I have a cousin that works for CNN. I know the behind the scenes deal with them.

I wonder

Graycap23 said:

I wonder

>

Interesting.

But what about BET...

CynicKill said:

Interesting.

But what about BET...

TeeeeHaaaaHoooo said:

CynicKill said:

Interesting.

But what about BET...

>

Surely I jest...

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Exactly!

I watched it and I was like. Ok, you in the Playboy mansion as a Playboy bunnie. What man is not going to make a play for you?! Janice Dickerson is playing this,like it's the ROLE of her life! I have no sympathy for her whatsoever. I'm not saying the women are lying either. I was drugged once to. That is why I don't accept drinks from ANYONE anymore. But it's obvious to me, they all want money. Whether they say so or not.

I agree Don is an excellent journalist! But it's obvious CNN is using him to get ratings, for like you said "Shock & Awe". I believe that is why that other Anchor TJ Holmes left CNN. Don is going to regret everything he is doing now. I don't see how he sleeps at night. He has done a total 180 on how he use to be. I have a cousin that works for CNN. I know the behind the scenes deal with them.

CNN did their BIG shake up towards the end of 2012 I think...Remember they got rid of our Girl Soledad O'Brien (The Stellar, Respected, Awesome Journalist that she is)..They dumped Contributor Roland Martin. They dumped Democratic Contributor James Carville....They even got rid of The KING, Larry King..I Love myself some old ass Lary King..LOL...I thought Larry was gonna hang himself from his Suspenders....All 4 were on CNN for YEARS...I remember The Press saying "Is Don Lemon next?"....That's when Don got worried and went Ghetto Fabulous...I don't know why he was Stressing when he was the ONLY Black male Anchor doing the weekend thing. They always keep Chocolate people working on Saturdays & Sundays..

I'm curious about the bigger picture.

For example, Julian Assange was accused too. He has not seen daylight in years and basically is inprisoned in an ambassy without a trial.

It seems that the accusations are a mean of the US/Swedish government to make sure Julian Assange his life is not productive anymore.

This is an effective and intensively used strategy. A lot of protesters and activists have been silenced by sending them to jail. The FBI will incite them to conduct some criminal act, so the government can label them as terrorist and jail them.

It worked with Julian Assange, Jeremy Hammond, Cleveland 4, Chelsea Manning and so many more folks with a conscience.

So, there are two possibilities:

1. The story in the media is the genuine story. Cosby exploited his powerful position for his perverse sexual needs.

It gets a lot of attention because Bill Cosby was the icon of a good father and husband.

There is the horrific white counterpard of All Bundy. The name "Married with Children" explains it all. Oliver Stone referred to this in the opening scene of Natural Born Killers.

-sidenote- NBK was not understood. TV is still addicted to murder, serial killers and violence.-

So, there was this sexist and white trash sitcom of a man who abuses his wife psychologically and sexualizes his teenage daughter. And there was the funny sitcome of the Bill Cosby Show. Bill Cosby was funny and respectable. Everybody loved him and trough his show, people got used to seeing black people being succesful and very, very respectable. The show has had a great impact on the emancipation of both women and black people, around the world.

It's shocking that the epihany of how to be a good man to women, actually was a sexual predator.

In context for the younger orgers; for the majority it was very cool to be a sexual predator in the '80's. Watch Porky's and the police academy. So, The Cosby Show was a welcome -non sexist- show. Cosby even supported his wife her career. That is why it's such a deception if it turns out that he was a sexual predator, just like the rest.


The most tragic is, that the females have come forward with their story. Only when a man mentions it, it is considered credible enough to pay attention to it. That must be harsh for the alleged victims.

2. It's a mean do discredit Cosby, because he is considered a threat to some elite folks.

So, if Bill Cosby has to be devaluated, labeled as an incredible source, silenced or what more. The allegations still can be true, but are highlighted in the media for some effect.

I'm interested in what the consequences are for whom? The effect of the allegations about Julian Assange were that they had material to jail him. So he would not be free to criticize the government anymore.

Why would these women lie? And for who?

Who wins what when Cosby is discredited or jailed?

That are the questions that interest me.
I don't know if he is guilty or not.

It seems likely, because of the allegations and because it was usance.

[Edited 12/11/14 9:04am]

TeeeeHaaaaHoooo said:

Chancellor said:

The accuser, Barbara Bowman is much older today but she stil is drop Dead Gorgeous. That Lady has Movie-Star looks....The part that is kind of confusing is that she says she "thinks" he drugged and raped her decades ago in NYC, then she decided to go another date and he man-handled her that particular time....I mean, why go back for more of the same? I get that she was "networking" cuz we all do it, but I'm gonna wait and see what Bill has to say...Barbara has a right to tell her story but she lacks credibility if she never went to the authorites decades ago...She even talked about how Bill became "America's Dad" and she kept her mouth shut....It sorta sounds like she got angrier & angrier as Bill became more successful....Did something really happen or was she just a young actress that got Dumped hard by an A-lister?

Her story is swiss cheese--full of holes. Gloria Allred even passed on representing her. And that's why she never went to the police. She might have had to tell them the whole truth. From the age of 17 to 19, she was pimped out by her mother and her agent to rich, married men. Took acting classes and lived in a NYC apartment paid for by one particular rich, married man. While under the legal drinking age, regularly consumed alcohol (and who knows what else) during frequent late-night "mentoring" sessions at rich, married man's home and hotel rooms across the country. When it became apparent that getting "mentored" on the regular wasn't going to advance the acting career she was "meant to have", she went apeshit and caused a scene at the hotel. Girl, bye! Ain't nobody got time for a hooker that can't hold their liquor or maintain discretion! Decades of bitterness of a failed acting career has turned into "I was drugged and raped (i think) for two years" and "thrown out of New York". How the hell does one get thrown out of New York??? I don't know if she was raped or not or if Cosby is a serial rapist or not. I do know that her story is good on a ham sandwich with romaine, heirloom tomato, and a little country dijon Grey Poupon.

[Edited 11/17/14 11:20am]

So, a bunch of rich and famous adults exploited their position to get sex with a beautiful blonde child. She was not old enough to be able to grasp what kind of situations she was in.

The others were. Bill Cosby, his agent, her mother, and the other millionaires took advantage of a child.

And now that is her fault?

How?

Please, explain it to me, so I can understand.

Chancellor said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Exactly!

I watched it and I was like. Ok, you in the Playboy mansion as a Playboy bunnie. What man is not going to make a play for you?! Janice Dickerson is playing this,like it's the ROLE of her life! I have no sympathy for her whatsoever. I'm not saying the women are lying either. I was drugged once to. That is why I don't accept drinks from ANYONE anymore. But it's obvious to me, they all want money. Whether they say so or not.

I agree Don is an excellent journalist! But it's obvious CNN is using him to get ratings, for like you said "Shock & Awe". I believe that is why that other Anchor TJ Holmes left CNN. Don is going to regret everything he is doing now. I don't see how he sleeps at night. He has done a total 180 on how he use to be. I have a cousin that works for CNN. I know the behind the scenes deal with them.

CNN did their BIG shake up towards the end of 2012 I think...Remember they got rid of our Girl Soledad O'Brien (The Stellar, Respected, Awesome Journalist that she is)..They dumped Contributor Roland Martin. They dumped Democratic Contributor James Carville....They even got rid of The KING, Larry King..I Love myself some old ass Lary King..LOL...I thought Larry was gonna hang himself from his Suspenders....All 4 were on CNN for YEARS...I remember The Press saying "Is Don Lemon next?"....That's when Don got worried and went Ghetto Fabulous...I don't know why he was Stressing when he was the ONLY Black male Anchor doing the weekend thing. They always keep Chocolate people working on Saturdays & Sundays..

Actually, from what I heard Don is the perfect complexion. So was TJ.

Tj I'm proud to say is @ ABC now. He has started appearing on GMA also. From his regular nighttime correspondence position.

JustErin said:

Some of you really need to educate yourselves about rape and sexual violence.

Asking questions like "why didn't she go to the police?" or "why is she saying all this now?" or talking about her lifestyle choices and past to come to the conclusion that she is "not credible" or just lying to make money really show just how ignorant you are.

Or maybe you do not really want to educate yourselves so that you can continue to victim blame and discredit women as the vindictive, lying whores that they really are.

Don't like that your opinions are coming off as that? Then shut the fuck up until you actually educate yourself on sexual assault.

As a close friend of someone that was assaulted by a powerful famous man (who is finally being outed) seeing these bullshit comments really show just how ignorant many people are. It's disgusting.

Yes.


It seems that a lot of folks who loved Bill Cosby just don't want to know that he can be a sexual predator.


It's called the Halo-effect and is shocks me that people will go to great lengths, so they can believe in their positive image of Bill Cosby.

Something to remember when you think the other is a good human being:

Psychopaths are charming and the good ones will die being celebrated. Because everybody loved the psychopath. A psychopath does not look like Hanibal Lector, he looks handsome, succesfull, funny, charming, charitative, helpfull and in general being a good person.

TD3 said:

JustErin said:

Chancellor said: This post is infuriating to me. I am so sick and tired of seeing this kind of bullshit again and again and again.

When cases such as this comes to light...when a pattern of sexually assaulted has been alleged the same talking points always appear: Attack, blame the victim, dismissiveness, and finally, question the motives of the victim.

It doesn't matter if the victim is an adult, a child, female, male, or a teenager. Victims of sexual assault all have something in common; many never come forward because they think they won't be believed. The relationship between the victim and the attacker are seldom on the same level, socially, economically and/or physically. As I've said here before, class, gender and race always plays a role on who gets punished and those who aren't touched.

People in authority who possess clout, celebrity, money, power, and prestige are often given the benifit of the doubt. Is it because you think we know these people? Less be clear, rape is a crime of violence; carried out by men who loath woman. When Mr. Cosby settled out of court in 2006, nine woman came forward and claimed they had been violated in the same manner. So, did these woman meet up at Starbucks and plan how they were going to get some money out of a wealth man? They would have been better served if they had gotten "knocked up".

Pathetic.

It's more likely that these other women finally dared to speak up.

And of course it will be twisted into She wants to get rich. What about a very real paying for the damage the rapist caused?

Chancellor said:

So now we have Accuser 15..Another wine/pill claim...These are Rape claims, if I were in his shoes I'd be too scared to be Silent...He still has the power to take Control over the narrative....Looks the Ladies have been talking and one will come forward every day...

Or, they have been talking, but were not believed, bullied or silenced.

And now that a man has started the discussion, these women finally are believed.

Can you explain me why you want to hold on to your view that he is innocent and is framed by all these women?

JediMaster said:

Without knowing all the facts, I don't like to go along with either side. Too easy to demonize the accusers or the accused. I WILL say though, that recent events in my life have led me to not jump to conclusions about this type of thing.

One of my best friends, a person I've known for almost 30 years, was recently arrested for covertly taking sexual pictures of his teenaged step-daughter and her friends without their knowledge.

When word of this reached me, I was devastated. I couldn't believe this person, whom I've shared so much with over the years, had this dark, twisted side. I knew he himself was a survivor of perpetual sexual abuse by a family member for years...our experiences with this common element were one of the things we bonded over. This is why I was just so incredibly bowled over when I got the news.

I wanted to believe it wasn't true, but the evidence is iron-clad. It's easy to say someone doesn't fit your vision of a sex predator, so therefore they couldn't be, but I assure you this isn't the case. NO ONE who knows my friend reacted with "oh yeah, I could totally see that". Instead, the reactions have been, uniformally, ones of shock and disbelief.

I know it's easy to dismiss the allegations because Cosby was a man who made us laugh. For people of my generation, he hosted "Fat Albert" and taught us life lessons in-between the commercial breaks. His stand-up cracked us up, and he was the ultra-friendly, seemingly perfect American Father Figure who visited us every Thursday. How could this man be a deviant? A rapist? Is it even possible that he is capable of such a vile act? Unfortunately, yes...it is entirely possible.

I'm not saying he is guilty. He is a celebrity, and they are often the target of extortion schemes or campains from opportunists seeking their 15 minutes of fame. I'll give you all of that. At the same time, it is just as likely that Mr. Cosby has a dark, sick perversion that we've never seen in his public persona. Oftentimes, the most dangerous individuals in the world are able to hide their sociopathic tendencies and blend in with society. Ted Bundy, Dennis Rader and HH Holmes, just to name a few, were respected individuals that friends and family never suspected of their horrible double-lives.

My point with this is, have an open mind for both sides of the story. Don't automatically decide Cosby is innocent because of your pre-conceived notions of him, and don't engage in assuming that the accusers all have ulterior motives. Likewise, don't have the knee-jerk reaction that the man is guilty just because he is accused. There is obviously more to this story than we know, and it all will come to light in time.

Chancellor said:

Well Mr. Cosby's Team is going after Accuser 15. In Dickison's book she stated Bill simply "blew her off" and no mention of Sex. Now Dickison is going on TV and crying and claiming she was drugged, raped and she forgot to put it in the Book..Did she forget she wrote a book or did the thing Flop so bad she wanted to forget? A reporter raised a Good question..13 women were suppose to come forward in the last Rape Allegation hype years ago but they decided not to when Cosby settled with the Accuser..."Why did the 13 Women disappear after the settlement?" They had nothing to lose coming forward after Bill settled with the Accuser...Why wait for a Comedian to make a joke about it to jump on the bandwagon again? Very valid questions...It makes you wonder if these women are simply looking for Fame and they need a vehicle to get them to the Bank....If you're serious then be serious...Fuck the settlements....Tell your story to anybody and everybody, stop waiting for the right opportunity or pre-settlement talks to come forward...

You really think females are believed when they tell their story?

Society only started paying attention when a man told their story!

You seem to be inclined to blame te victims and stick with Cosby as a hero. Why?

Now former model Beverly Johnson says Cosby derugged her.

http://www.vanityfair.com...nson-story

By Beverly Johnson

ike most Americans, I spent the 60s, 70s, and part of the 80s in awe of Bill Cosby and his total domination of popular culture. He was the first African American to star in a dramatic television series, I Spy, a show my family in Buffalo, New York, always watched. Cosby cut a striking figure on-screen then. He was funny, smart, and even elegant—all those wonderful things many white Americans didn’t associate with people of color. In fact, as I thought of going public with what follows, a voice in my head kept whispering, “Black men have enough enemies out there already, they certainly don’t need someone like you, an African American with a familiar face and a famous name, fanning the flames.”

Imagine my joy in the mid-80s when an agent called to say Bill Cosby wanted me to audition for a role on the The Cosby Show. Cosby played an obstetrician, and he sometimes used models to portray pregnant women sitting in his office waiting room. It was a small part with one or two speaking lines at most, but I wanted in.

I was in the midst of an ugly custody battle for my only child. I needed a big break badly and appearing on The Cosby Show seemed like an excellent way of getting Hollywood’s attention. I’d appeared in one or two movies already, but my phone wasn’t exactly ringing off the hook with acting jobs.

Cosby’s handlers invited me to a taping of the show so I could get the lay of the land and an idea of what my role required. After the taping I met all the cast and then met with Cosby in his office to talk a bit about the hell I’d been through in my marriage. He appeared concerned and then asked what I wanted from my career going forward. He seemed genuinely interested in guiding me to the next level. I was on cloud nine.

I brought my daughter to the next taping I attended. Afterward, Cosby asked if I could meet him at his home that weekend to read for the part. My ex-husband had primary custody of my daughter at the time, and I usually spent my weekends with her. Cosby suggested I bring her along, which really reeled me in. He was the Jell-O Pudding man; like most kids, my daughter loved him. When my daughter and I visited Cosby’s New York brownstone, his staff served us a delicious brunch. Then he gave us a tour of the exceptional multi-level home.

Looking back, that first invite from Cosby to his home seems like part of a perfectly laid out plan, a way to make me feel secure with him at all times. It worked like a charm. Cosby suggested I come back to his house a few days later to read for the part. I agreed, and one late afternoon the following week I returned. His staff served a light dinner and Bill and I talked more about my plans for the future.

After the meal, we walked upstairs to a huge living area of his home that featured a massive bar. A huge brass espresso contraption took up half the counter. At the time, it seemed rare for someone to have such a machine in his home for personal use.

Cosby said he wanted to see how I handled various scenes, so he suggested that I pretend to be drunk. (When did a pregnant woman ever appear drunk on The Cosby Show? Probably never, but I went with it.)

As I readied myself to be the best drunk I could be, he offered me a cappuccino from the espresso machine. I told him I didn’t drink coffee that late in the afternoon because it made getting to sleep at night more difficult. He wouldn’t let it go. He insisted that his espresso machine was the best model on the market and promised I’d never tasted a cappuccino quite like this one.

It’s nuts, I know, but it felt oddly inappropriate arguing with Bill Cosby so I took a few sips of the coffee just to appease him.

Now let me explain this: I was a top model during the 70s, a period when drugs flowed at parties and photo shoots like bottled water at a health spa. I’d had my fun and experimented with my fair share of mood enhancers. I knew by the second sip of the drink Cosby had given me that I’d been drugged—and drugged good.

BY DAVID COOPER/TORONTO STAR

Bill Cosby in 1978.

[Editor’s Note: Cosby’s attorneys did not respond to Vanity Fair’s requests for comment.]

My head became woozy, my speech became slurred, and the room began to spin nonstop. Cosby motioned for me to come over to him as though we were really about to act out the scene. He put his hands around my waist, and I managed to put my hand on his shoulder in order to steady myself.

As I felt my body go completely limp, my brain switched into automatic-survival mode. That meant making sure Cosby understood that I knew exactly what was happening at that very moment.

“You are a motherfucker aren’t you?”

That’s the exact question I yelled at him as he stood there holding me, expecting me to bend to his will. I rapidly called him several more “motherfuckers.” By the fifth, I could tell that I was really pissing him off. At one point he dropped his hands from my waist and just stood there looking at me like I’d lost my mind.

What happened next is somewhat cloudy for me because the drug was in fuller play by that time. I recall his seething anger at my tirade and then him grabbing me by my left arm hard and yanking all 110 pounds of me down a bunch of stairs as my high heels clicked and clacked on every step. I feared my neck was going to break with the force he was using to pull me down those stairs.

It was still late afternoon and the sun hadn’t completely gone down yet. When we reached the front door, he pulled me outside of the brownstone and then, with his hand still tightly clenched around my arm, stood in the middle of the street waving down taxis.

When one stopped, Cosby opened the door, shoved me into it and slammed the door behind me without ever saying a word. I somehow managed to tell the driver my address and before blacking out, I looked at the cabbie and asked, as if he knew: “Did I really just call Bill Cosby ‘a motherfucker’?”

Why that was even a concern of mine after what I’d just been through is still a mystery to me? I think my mind refused to process it.

The next day I woke up in my own bed after falling into a deep sleep that lasted most of the day. I had no memory of how I got into my apartment or into my bed, though most likely my doorman helped me out.

I sat in there still stunned by what happened the night before, confused and devastated by the idea that someone I admired so much had tried to take advantage of me, and used drugs to do so. Had I done something to encourage his actions?

In reality, I knew I’d done nothing to encourage Cosby but my mind kept turning with question after question.

It took a few days for the drug to completely wear off and soon I had to get back to work. I headed to California for an acting audition. Not long after arriving, I decided I needed to confront Cosby for my own sanity’s sake. I thought if I just called him, he would come clean and explain why he’d done what he had.

I dialed the private number he’d given me expecting to hear his voice on the other end. But he didn’t answer. His wife did. A little shocked, I quickly identified myself to her in the most respectful way possible and then asked to speak to Bill. Camille politely informed me that it was very late, 11:00 P.M. and that they were both in bed together.

I apologized for the late call and explained that I was in Los Angeles and had forgotten about the three-hour time difference. I added that I would call back tomorrow.

I didn’t call back the next day or any other day after that. At a certain moment it became clear that I would be fighting a losing battle with a powerful man so callous he not only drugged me, but he also gave me the number to the bedroom he shared with his wife. How could I fight someone that boldly arrogant and out of touch? In the end, just like the other women, I had too much to lose to go after Bill Cosby. I had a career that would no doubt take a huge hit if I went public with my story and I certainly couldn’t afford that after my costly divorce and on going court fees.

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For a long time I thought it was something that only happened to me, and that I was somehow responsible. So I kept my secret to myself, believing this truth needed to remain in the darkness. But the last four weeks have changed everything, as so many women have shared similar stories, of which the press have belatedly taken heed.

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Still I struggled with how to reveal my big secret, and more importantly, what would people think when and if I did? Would they dismiss me as an angry black woman intent on ruining the image of one of the most revered men in the African American community over the last 40 years? Or would they see my open and honest account of being betrayed by one of the country’s most powerful, influential, and beloved entertainers?

As I wrestled with the idea of telling my story of the day Bill Cosby drugged me with the intention of doing God knows what, the faces of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, Eric Garner, and countless other brown and black men took residence in my mind.

As if I needed to be reminded. The current plight of the black male was behind my silence when Barbara Bowman came out to tell the horrific details of being drugged and raped by Cosby to the Washington Post in November. And I watched in horror as my longtime friend and fellow model Janice Dickinson was raked over the coals for telling her account of rape at Cosby’s hands. Over the years I’ve met other women who also claim to have been violated by Cosby. Many are still afraid to speak up. I couldn’t sit back and watch the other women be vilified and shamed for something I knew was true.

BY KAL YEE.

When I sat down to write my memoir in 2013, I pondered if I should include my Cosby experience. I didn't want to get involved in a he-said/she-said situation. Now that other women have come forward with their nightmare stories, I join them.

Finally, I reached the conclusion that the current attack on African American men has absolutely nothing to do at all with Bill Cosby. He brought this on himself when he decided he had the right to have his way with who knows how many women over the last four decades. If anything, Cosby is distinguished from the majority of black men in this country because he could depend on the powers that be for support and protection.

I had to use my voice as a sister, mother, and grandmother, and as a woman who knows that, according to the C.D.C., nearly one in five women has been sexually assaulted at some time in her life, and that women of color face an even higher attack rate.

In part because of what happened to me nearly 30 years ago, I have agreed to serve on the board of the Barbara Sinatra Center for Abused Children. The experience has been as humbling as it has been rewarding. Many of the young children I work with have been sexually abused and I watch in awe of their bravery as they work to recover and feel better.

How could I be any less brave?

Beverly Johnson was a top model during the 70s and 80s and was the first African American woman to appear on the cover of American Vogue in 1974.

SoulAlive said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Who knows what the truth is any more--it's turned into a media witch hunt a la Michael Jackson.

I have a feeling that this scandal will be like the R.Kelly situation....we'll hear all these accusations,but nothing will happen to Bill.His fans will shrug and look the other way.I don't think any of these charges could be proven in court,anyway.

I think so too.

Compare R. Kelly with Rob Lowe.

R. Kelly didn't even notice that he did something wrong.

Whereas Rob Lowe had to kiss his career goodbey for a few decades.

OldFriends4Sale said:

JustErin said:

I sure did, and it did not say anything about "groupie sex" or any mention of what actually really happened behind those closed doors - consensual or not.

You came up with all that on your own.

The article says he made payments to certain women (e.g. the woman that was getting money to help pay for her son's private school), women that he feels had sex with him - not that he was paying them for sex. It does not mention any payment to the modelling agency for bringing girls to his room or any payments given to those girls.

You have no idea what arrangements Cosby had with those women and you have NO IDEA what was told to those young aspiring models when they were told to go in the room with him - especially if some of them were children.

Discuss what's being said in the article, stop making up shit.

That's called Groupie sex,

replace Bill with a rock or pop star or a hot actor, and it's the same thing

Stop acting like people/women are niave

You are the one adding a spin 'children' No one ever said they were children

and it is speculation on the ages.

If Bill is guilty of something here so is Frank Scotti and the modelling agency, because even Frank said the Lady know what was happening

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If Michael Jackson was guilty of child molestation, then so were every single parent that dropped their children off, even after they heard of allegations.

Yes, the enablers are guilty too.


This is about men in powerful positions who choose to indulge in sex with young people, because they can.

There was the option to not exploit these young girls/boys, some even children. That would have been the right choice.

Anybody who actively enables the (sexual) abuse of children, is guilty.


If you have fans, you are not forced to have sex with them, righ?

OldFriends4Sale said:

JustErin said:

Yeah, you're completely weird. I just can't bother anymore, your posts are just so odd, all over the place contradictory, and mostly totally out to lunch.

good

Your statement is important.

You assume that white girls are above black men.

That is not the case. Who got elected, Obama or Hillary?


White girls are used as the embodiment of innocence in rape cases against black men.

But that does not mean that white girls are above black men.

It just means, that in the fight against black men, it's effective to use white women.


White women are not princesses.

Women only recently were allowed to make money for themselves and be in charge of their own money with a bank account.


A lot of white people have no idea of their white privelege. Do you blame them for their ignorance?

The majority of men have no idea about their male privelege. Should I blame them for their ignorance?

lrn36 said:

Now former model Beverly Johnson says Cosby derugged her.

http://www.vanityfair.com...nson-story

Bill Cosby Drugged Me. This Is My Story.

By Beverly Johnson

ike most Americans, I spent the 60s, 70s, and part of the 80s in awe of Bill Cosby and his

In part because of what happened to me nearly 30 years ago, I have agreed to serve on the board of the Barbara Sinatra Center for Abused Children. The experience has been as humbling as it has been rewarding. Many of the young children I work with have been sexually abused and I watch in awe of their bravery as they work to recover and feel better.

How could I be any less brave?

Beverly Johnson was a top model during the 70s and 80s and was the first African American woman to appear on the cover of American Vogue in 1974.

Very believable story. This is NOT looking good 4 Bill.

OldFriends4Sale said:

A few issues I have with these allegations

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1.) People are looking back into history and shadowing 1960 1970s Bill Cosby with after the Cosby Show famed Bill. Bill Cosby wasn't some Super Star powerhouse in the periods the accusations are coming from. Maybe I'm wrong.

Exactly. So, the claim that these women just want to get their 15 minutes of fame, by accusing Bill Cosby, is ridiculous.

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2.) A 'Black' man rapping white women in the period of 1967-1982 and being afraid to come forward. Maybe the women are not prejudiced people. But I have a hard time believing his fame outweighed the times. Because he wasn't a superstar during that time.



Black man always have been above women. Also the white women. White women were just means to satisfy the needs of men. Make no mistake.

When it was useful, white women were used as material to jail black men. But that does not mean that white women are above black men. Imo, black men are above white women in the hierarchy of western society.