Graycap23 said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:

To add, I am not trying to pick on you guys. I'm trying to get you to see that not every single scandal, involving blacks is an racial conspiracy. It is good to get information and details, before drawing any conclusions. Yes, there is a lot of racism here in America, no doubt.

What aprt of this quote is not clear?

"In reality, the LAW doesn't work that way. A 1st time offender with no criminal records at best gets probation. This case is overblown and the DA in the case as well as the NFL knows it.

Did he go overboard on whipping the kid? Yes. Should it have been blown completely overboard? No. This case won't evn go 2 trial until next May/June. Why the urgency with an arrest warrant"?

A conspiracy? It's one thing to suspect, but then prove it. Why the urgency? If you are his lawyer, then you can answer that.

RodeoSchro said:

I said I was pretty much done with this thread because it's going on and on. When you keep dragging the thread on and you go for blood it gets to the point where you don't even realize what you said or read. You clearly stated that Graycap lumped us all as racists then when Tony Van Damn posed the ? to you, you stated I never said he did. Also just from reading the thread Graycap did mention fake concern as he responded to one of my posts reply number 74 but Graycap never accused anyone HERE ON THE ORG of showing fake concern. Read the post. Everyone is up in arms over the situation with the kid and rightfully so but damn everyone is on such witch hunt to accuse Gray of race baiting you're not carefully comprehending all his posts as intended.

phunkdaddy said:

RodeoSchro said:

I never said he did. I've always said he is race-baiting. He's doing it to the whole board, not just one or two people in particular.

The posts of his that I quoted couldn't be any more clear on that.

I said I was pretty much done with this thread because it's going on and on. When you keep dragging the thread on and you go for blood it gets to the point where you don't even realize what you said or read. You clearly stated that Graycap lumped us all as racists then when Tony Van Damn posed the ? to you, you stated I never said he did. Also just from reading the thread Graycap did mention fake concern as he responded to one of my posts reply number 74 but Graycap never accused anyone HERE ON THE ORG of showing fake concern. Read the post. Everyone is up in arms over the situation with the kid and rightfully so but damn everyone is on such witch hunt to accuse Gray of race baiting you're not carefully comprehending all his posts as intended.

Nah, Tony asked this specific question - who did Graycap call by name a racist? And as I correctly answered, no one. And then, as I again correctly stated, he said EVERYONE was faking concern over Peterson's kid, and tied EVERYONE who was displaying concern for Peterson's child with racism ("because this fake ass concern never ends, just like racism never end.").

This is what's called "race-baiting". Hell, it's the very definition of race-baiting. Did he call anyone specifically a racist? No. Did he imply that everyone (read: white people) are racists? Absolutely.

It's really just low-level trolling.

Beautifulstarr123 said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Give me a break. I just MENTIONED the CNN report because after all, it's CNN and not coming from some anonymous person here on the Org. Second, I intentionally did NOT provide the link because I didn't think it was appropriate to have it in here. Third, I did not bring up race at all initially in this thread or in the Ray Rice thread. You jump over several pages of everything else I said to draw attention to a CNN article that I did not post, did not write and did not include it in its entirety but merely SUMMARIZED what I was reading since the topic was already brought up! Please comprehend better next time. Thanks. By the way, where was the pun you referred to or are you just using that figure of speech to make your post seem more intellectual than it ever really could be?

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Were you refering the CNN to sum up the conclusion that the Peterson case was a racially charged conspiracy? Yes, you were. However, if you believe it, then you know what, kudos to you.

...on a sidenote, you should intellectualize any given situation because if you don't, then you will look like an ass. I'm done.

I'm sorry, Seventeendayze. I sincerly mean it. I should have never came to this thread. I'm out.

phunkdaddy said:

RodeoSchro said:

I never said he did. I've always said he is race-baiting. He's doing it to the whole board, not just one or two people in particular.

The posts of his that I quoted couldn't be any more clear on that.

but Graycap never accused anyone HERE ON THE ORG of showing fake concern.

he absolutely did... go back and read

he said it first when you said you were glad people HERE were concerned

RodeoSchro said:

Well when you say lump us as racists that's pretty much saying you're assuming he means white folks that are opposing his argument on the org which from my understanding he never implied. He didn't specifically point out orgers black or white here showing fake concern. He's basically referring to media outlets and sponsors. The bottom line is they want to be the first to report a story and make profit. Now Anhueser Busch is concerned about the NFL's image. Really? Those guys are probably part of the problem of domestic violence on a broader scale. They peddle alcohol to some of these guys who go home and abuse their girlfriends/wives.

MoBettaBliss said:

Reply 74. I don't see any quote that says white prince.org orgers are showing
fake concern and are racists. None. If you took the focus off yourselves and say media or corporate America's treatment of black guys your argument would stand a better chance. There is no point in the thread that Graycap says white orgers are showing fake concern for the kid or label white orgers as racists. That's why I'm starting to find this hilarous and it seems you and Rodeo are on a mission to gun him down.

MoBettaBliss said:

50/50 because I don't want the government owning children and parents should be able to discipline a child. All this timeout bullshit does not work either.

phunkdaddy said:

RodeoSchro said:

Nah, Tony asked this specific question - who did Graycap call by name a racist? And as I correctly answered, no one. And then, as I again correctly stated, he said EVERYONE was faking concern over Peterson's kid, and tied EVERYONE who was displaying concern for Peterson's child with racism ("because this fake ass concern never ends, just like racism never end.").

This is what's called "race-baiting". Hell, it's the very definition of race-baiting. Did he call anyone specifically a racist? No. Did he imply that everyone (read: white people) are racists? Absolutely.

It's really just low-level trolling.

Well when you say lump us as racists that's pretty much saying you're assuming he means white folks that are opposing his argument on the org which from my understanding he never implied. He didn't specifically point out orgers black or white here showing fake concern. He's basically referring to media outlets and sponsors. The bottom line is they want to be the first to report a story and make profit. Now Anhueser Busch is concerned about the NFL's image. Really? Those guys are probably part of the problem of domestic violence on a broader scale. They peddle alcohol to some of these guys who go home and abuse their girlfriends/wives.

Yes, that's what I'm saying. I don't think he's trying to imply that black people are racist.

I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt, and have it turn out that Graycap was just inarticulate in the way he placed his blame. But Graycap makes the same claims on pretty much every thread, so I'm just not convinced he was talking about the media.

And yeah, it's easy to take potshots at Anheuser-Busch. In fact, Jon Stewart took one hell of a great potshot at them last night on "The Daily Show". It's worth watching. But at least they are taking a stand in the right direction.

phunkdaddy said:

MoBettaBliss said:

he absolutely did... go back and read

he said it first when you said you were glad people HERE were concerned

Reply 74. I don't see any quote that says white prince.org orgers are showing fake concern and are racists. None. If you took the focus off yourselves and say media or corporate America's treatment of black guys your argument would stand a better chance. There is no point in the thread that Graycap says white orgers are showing fake concern for the kid or label white orgers as racists. That's why I'm starting to find this hilarous and it seems you and Rodeo are on a mission to gun him down.

if that's how you honestly read what went down in this thread, it's pointless us discussing it any further

RodeoSchro said:

phunkdaddy said:

RodeoSchro said: Well when you say lump us as racists that's pretty much saying you're assuming he means white folks that are opposing his argument on the org which from my understanding he never implied. He didn't specifically point out orgers black or white here showing fake concern. He's basically referring to media outlets and sponsors. The bottom line is they want to be the first to report a story and make profit. Now Anhueser Busch is concerned about the NFL's image. Really? Those guys are probably part of the problem of domestic violence on a broader scale. They peddle alcohol to some of these guys who go home and abuse their girlfriends/wives.

Yes, that's what I'm saying. I don't think he's trying to imply that black people are racist.

I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt, and have it turn out that Graycap was just inarticulate in the way he placed his blame. But Graycap makes the same claims on pretty much every thread, so I'm just not convinced he was talking about the media.

And yeah, it's easy to take potshots at Anheuser-Busch. In fact, Jon Stewart took one hell of a great potshot at them last night on "The Daily Show". It's worth watching. But at least they are taking a stand in the right direction.

Eh.

They're just jumping on the campaign bandwagon. AB doesn't give a sh!t about domestic violence. I doubt their bottom line has even been affected. But if they take a stand against Adrian Peterson, or Ray Rice (they're almost becoming the same person at this point), they get browny points and might even increase their bottom line. My point? I'm highly cynical of cause celebs.

phunkdaddy said:

RodeoSchro said:

I never said he did. I've always said he is race-baiting. He's doing it to the whole board, not just one or two people in particular.

The posts of his that I quoted couldn't be any more clear on that.

I said I was pretty much done with this thread because it's going on and on. When you keep dragging the thread on and you go for blood it gets to the point where you don't even realize what you said or read. You clearly stated that Graycap lumped us all as racists then when Tony Van Damn posed the ? to you, you stated I never said he did. Also just from reading the thread Graycap did mention fake concern as he responded to one of my posts reply number 74 but Graycap never accused anyone HERE ON THE ORG of showing fake concern. Read the post. Everyone is up in arms over the situation with the kid and rightfully so but damn everyone is on such witch hunt to accuse Gray of race baiting you're not carefully comprehending all his posts as intended.

I didn't think Gray accused anyone by name neither. And you know how easy it is for some people to take someone's comments out of context in orgville!

phunkdaddy said:

Nah, Tony asked this specific question - who did Graycap call by name a racist? And as I correctly answered, no one. And then, as I again correctly stated, he said EVERYONE was faking concern over Peterson's kid, and tied EVERYONE who was displaying concern for Peterson's child with racism ("because this fake ass concern never ends, just like racism never end.").

This is what's called "race-baiting". Hell, it's the very definition of race-baiting. Did he call anyone specifically a racist? No. Did he imply that everyone (read: white people) are racists? Absolutely.

It's really just low-level trolling.

Well when you say lump us as racists that's pretty much saying you're assuming he means white folks that are opposing his argument on the org which from my understanding he never implied. He didn't specifically point out orgers black or white here showing fake concern. He's basically referring to media outlets and sponsors. The bottom line is they want to be the first to report a story and make profit. Now Anhueser Busch is concerned about the NFL's image. Really? Those guys are probably part of the problem of domestic violence on a broader scale. They peddle alcohol to some of these guys who go home and abuse their girlfriends/wives.

@RodeoSchro & Phunkdaddy......The American corporate news media outlets has been race-baiting this entire bullshit from the get-go. Leave it up to them, they will have the entire Earth thinking that all black men are savages, simply because of the irresponsibilities of Ray Rice & Adrian Peterson.

phunkdaddy said:

MoBettaBliss said:

he absolutely did... go back and read

he said it first when you said you were glad people HERE were concerned

Reply 74. I don't see any quote that says white prince.org orgers are showing fake concern and are racists. None. If you took the focus off yourselves and say media or corporate America's treatment of black guys your argument would stand a better chance. There is no point in the thread that Graycap says white orgers are showing fake concern for the kid or label white orgers as racists. That's why I'm starting to find this hilarous and it seems you and Rodeo are on a mission to gun him down.

There it is in a NUTshell. The reality is, I could post that today is Friday, and certain folks would scramble the internet trying to prove that it wasn't. Amazing.

CynicKill said:

RodeoSchro said:

Yes, that's what I'm saying. I don't think he's trying to imply that black people are racist.

I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt, and have it turn out that Graycap was just inarticulate in the way he placed his blame. But Graycap makes the same claims on pretty much every thread, so I'm just not convinced he was talking about the media.

And yeah, it's easy to take potshots at Anheuser-Busch. In fact, Jon Stewart took one hell of a great potshot at them last night on "The Daily Show". It's worth watching. But at least they are taking a stand in the right direction.

Eh.

They're just jumping on the campaign bandwagon. AB doesn't give a sh!t about domestic violence. I doubt their bottom line has even been affected. But if they take a stand against Adrian Peterson, or Ray Rice (they're almost becoming the same person at this point), they get browny points and might even increase their bottom line. My point? I'm highly cynical of cause celebs.

You make some valid points, but an important distinction to remember is this - AB didn't say a word about Ray Rice or Adrian Peterson.

The only criticism they levelled was directed solely at the NFL. So they aren't amking Rice and Peterson scapegoats. They are making the NFL itself the scapegoat.

So I think they should get credit for that.

TonyVanDam said:

phunkdaddy said:

Well when you say lump us as racists that's pretty much saying you're assuming he means white folks that are opposing his argument on the org which from my understanding he never implied. He didn't specifically point out orgers black or white here showing fake concern. He's basically referring to media outlets and sponsors. The bottom line is they want to be the first to report a story and make profit. Now Anhueser Busch is concerned about the NFL's image. Really? Those guys are probably part of the problem of domestic violence on a broader scale. They peddle alcohol to some of these guys who go home and abuse their girlfriends/wives.

@RodeoSchro & Phunkdaddy......The American corporate news media outlets has been race-baiting this entire bullshit from the get-go. Leave it up to them, they will have the entire Earth thinking that all black men are savages, simply because of the irresponsibilities of Ray Rice & Adrian Peterson.

They were very tough on Richie Incognito, and Scott Peterson, and Joran Van Der Sloot, and George Zimmerman, and Jodi Arias, and Casey Anthony. In fact, there were cable networks that were basically devoted to the Arias and Anthony trials 24/7. My God, I will never be able to get Nancy Grace's ugly mug out of my mind. Thanks for nothing, CNN.

The vast majority of humans want to live together in equality and peace. Even if racists were controlling a news network, they'd soon go out of business if they slanted their stories in the way you suggest, because that would offend most viewers.

Minnesota Vikings star running back Adrian Peterson will plead guilty Tuesday to a lesser charge than the felony child-abuse charge that he is currently facing, a source confirmed to ESPN's Michelle Steele.

Peterson will not serve any jail time, according to the source.

Peterson will plead guilty to once count of misdemeanor reckless assault, according to ProFootballTalk.com.

Graycap23 said:

Minnesota Vikings star running back Adrian Peterson will plead guilty Tuesday to a lesser charge than the felony child-abuse charge that he is currently facing, a source confirmed to ESPN's Michelle Steele.

Peterson will not serve any jail time, according to the source.

Peterson will plead guilty to once count of misdemeanor reckless assault, according to ProFootballTalk.com.

It will be interesting to see how the NFL will respond once the legal stuff is over and done with.

SeventeenDayze said:

Graycap23 said:

Minnesota Vikings star running back Adrian Peterson will plead guilty Tuesday to a lesser charge than the felony child-abuse charge that he is currently facing, a source confirmed to ESPN's Michelle Steele.

Peterson will not serve any jail time, according to the source.

Peterson will plead guilty to once count of misdemeanor reckless assault, according to ProFootballTalk.com.

It will be interesting to see how the NFL will respond once the legal stuff is over and done with.

He is being used as a political "football" (pardon the pun) in Minnesota. They are building a new Football Stadium there and the Gov is making a stink over this issue. If it were any other team, he would be on the field in the very next game after the case was settled.

It amazes me that some folks on the org are still coming back with different angles of bullshit, instead of looking at the asshole(s).

Stop handwringing about what the white folks think: " White corprate media" didn't knock the shit out of Mr. Rice's wife he did and white corporate didn't beat Mr. Peterson's child, he did. Damn!

On another subject....

As far as white people looking at Black people and/or men as savages, is this suppose to be a News Flash! What is our history in this country? Do you think white folks woke up one day and said, "Niggers we've done you wrong, we're going to changes our ways?" Many Black men need to pull their head out of their asses and get a fuckin plan; a workable, life giving, life sustaining plan. If you don't want to do that or aren't capable of doing anything to get white folks off your neck, then shut up and take it. So far, I haven't seen a snails move to do a damn thing but whine, about white people don't like us! Enough!

I'm sure after this, I've locked this thread.

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TD3 said:

TD3 said:

It amazes me that some folks on the org are still coming back with different angles of bullshit, instead of looking at the asshole(s).

Stop handwringing about what the white folks think: " White corprate media" didn't knock the shit out of Mr. Rice's wife he did and white corporate didn't beat Mr. Peterson's child, he did. Damn!

On another subject....

As far as white people looking at Black people and/or men as savages, is this suppose to be a News Flash! What is our history in this country? Do you think white folks woke up one day and said, "Niggers we've done you wrong, we're going to changes our ways?" Many Black men need to pull their head out of their asses and get a fuckin plan; a workable, life giving, life sustaining plan. If you don't want to do that or aren't capable of doing anything to get white folks off your neck, then shut up and take it. So far, I haven't seen a snails move to do a damn thing but whine, about white people don't like us! Enough!

I'm sure after this, I've locked this thread.

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So you're saying it's possible for black men to live their lives without racism getting in their way in a racist society. Can you swim in the Atlantic without getting wet? Swim in the ocean but don't get a drop of water on you and don't blame the water for getting you wet...

TD3 said:

It amazes me that some folks on the org are still coming back with different angles of bullshit, instead of looking at the asshole(s).

Stop handwringing about what the white folks think: " White corprate media" didn't knock the shit out of Mr. Rice's wife he did and white corporate didn't beat Mr. Peterson's child, he did. Damn!

On another subject....

As far as white people looking at Black people and/or men as savages, is this suppose to be a News Flash! What is our history in this country? Do you think white folks woke up one day and said, "Niggers we've done you wrong, we're going to changes our ways?" Many Black men need to pull their head out of their asses and get a fuckin plan; a workable, life giving, life sustaining plan. If you don't want to do that or aren't capable of doing anything to get white folks off your neck, then shut up and take it. So far, I haven't seen a snails move to do a damn thing but whine, about white people don't like us! Enough!

I'm sure after this, I've locked this thread.

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[Edited 11/4/14 15:03pm]

I'm not sure whom u are addressing.

SeventeenDayze said:

TD3 said:

It amazes me that some folks on the org are still coming back with different angles of bullshit, instead of looking at the asshole(s).

Stop handwringing about what the white folks think: " White corprate media" didn't knock the shit out of Mr. Rice's wife he did and white corporate didn't beat Mr. Peterson's child, he did. Damn!

On another subject....

As far as white people looking at Black people and/or men as savages, is this suppose to be a News Flash! What is our history in this country? Do you think white folks woke up one day and said, "Niggers we've done you wrong, we're going to changes our ways?" Many Black men need to pull their head out of their asses and get a fuckin plan; a workable, life giving, life sustaining plan. If you don't want to do that or aren't capable of doing anything to get white folks off your neck, then shut up and take it. So far, I haven't seen a snails move to do a damn thing but whine, about white people don't like us! Enough!

I'm sure after this, I've locked this thread.

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[Edited 11/4/14 15:03pm]

So you're saying it's possible for black men to live their lives without racism getting in their way in a racist society. Can you swim in the Atlantic without getting wet? Swim in the ocean but don't get a drop of water on you and don't blame the water for getting you wet...

Racism doesn't have a damn thing to do with YOUR character and the choices these men made. As James Baldwin once said, Black folks are quick to hide behide white people transgressions, to conceal our own." I'm sorry the devil, white people, the white media, the little white lady down the street were not there when Mr. Rice raised his hand and knocked the shit out of Mrs. Rice. All those mentioned weren't there when Mr. Perterson beat his son enough to draw blood either. What type of stuck on sillness makes this so unclear to understand.

Racism will always be in one from or another... its very easy to state the obvious. Its our problem, our responsibilty, and our job to neutralize the things we can do today, tomorrow, a month, a year, 5 years, a decade to come. There has been enough wiggle room for use to take advantage of the opportunity fought for by Black's and some White's to get a head. Yet I see a generation stuck on a pity party for close to fuckin' 45 years. My late dad (who would've have 90 this year) and my mother (who's 88) didn't have the opportunity their talents would have afforded them, because of corrupt, evil, and violent white people. What small advantages they did have they seized them, like so many of their generation.

Let me put it another way... the landscape of our nation is changing. As this nation gets browner, blacker, darker and tanner, it will still have a pecking order and if Black people don't get it together, we will still be at the bottom. All those brown and dark folks from Latin American, the Caribbean, all parts of Africa and Asia, and everything in between...

When "we" start on our sing-song about racism and the vestiges of slavery, those people of color will say to us, "We haven't done a damn thing to you, go sing that song to some white folks". Thangs are changin'. " After all, I'm free white and twenty-one... ain't gonna cut it either.

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TD3 said:

SeventeenDayze said:

So you're saying it's possible for black men to live their lives without racism getting in their way in a racist society. Can you swim in the Atlantic without getting wet? Swim in the ocean but don't get a drop of water on you and don't blame the water for getting you wet...

Racism doesn't have a damn thing to do with YOUR character and the choices these men made. As James Baldwin once said, Black folks are quick to hide behide white people transgressions, to conceal our own." I'm sorry the devil, white people, the white media, the little white lady down the street were not there when Mr. Rice raised his hand and knocked the shit out of Mrs. Rice. All those mentioned weren't there when Mr. Perterson beat his son enough to draw blood either. What type of stuck on sillness makes this so unclear to understand.

Racism will always be in one from or another... its very easy to state the obvious. Its our problem, our responsibilty, and our job to neutralize the things we can do today, tomorrow, a month, a year, 5 years, a decade to come. There has been enough wiggle room for use to take advantage of the opportunity fought for by Black's and some White's to get a head. Yet I see a generation stuck on a pity party for close to fuckin' 45 years. My late dad (who would've have 90 this year) and my mother (who's 88) didn't have the opportunity their talents would have afforded them, because of corrupt, evil, and violent white people. What small advantages they did have they seized them, like so many of their generation.

Let me put it another way... the landscape of our nation is changing. As this nation gets browner, blacker, darker and tanner, it will still have a pecking order and if Black people don't get it together, we will still be at the bottom. All those brown and dark folks from Latin American, the Caribbean, all parts of Africa and Asia, and everything in between...

When "we" start on our sing-song about racism and the vestiges of slavery, those people of color will say to us, "We haven't done a damn thing to you, go sing that song to some white folks". Thangs are changin'. " After all, I'm free white and twenty-one... ain't gonna cut it either.

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You're white and 21? Or are you being sarcastic? It's hard to tell online. Either way, I wish you the best in whatever world you'd like to create but your analysis really does not lend itself to see things much in a historical context. Look at all of the hell that Obama gets and it's certainly not because he's not "behaving himself" or "seeing past race"....I'm not sure this has anything to do with Adrian Peterson so it might be a good idea to get back on topic here.

Adrian Peterson avoids jail time in child abuse case

the child could have swallowed and/or choked on the leaves as he was crying. the leaves could have gotten logged in his throat. lucky for adrian that the child did not pass out.

imo it is a true case of child abuse.

seems very few have concern for the psychological well being of this child. imo part of adrian peterson's future responsibility should be to pay for psychological counseling for his child, and supervised visits only after he attends anger management classes.

[Edited 11/5/14 13:28pm]

free2bfreeda said:

Adrian Peterson avoids jail time in child abuse case

USA TODAY Sports8:46 p.m. EST November 4, 2014

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/vikings/2014/11/04/adrian-peterson-minnesota-vikings-child-abuse-plea-deal-misdemeanor/18466197/

CONROE, Texas --- Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson pleaded no contest Tuesday to a reduced charge of misdemeanor reckless assault as part of plea deal with prosecutors to resolve his felony child abuse case.

As part of the deal, Peterson will avoid jail time and instead be ordered to pay a $4,000 fine, court costs and 80 hours of community service.

"I truly regret this incident," Peterson said outside the courthouse. "I stand here and take full responsibility for my actions. I love my son more than any one of you could even imagine. I am looking forward to and I am anxious to continue my relationship with my child.

"I am just glad this is over. I can put this behind me and me and my family can begin to move forward."

read more at link:

[i] my main concern is about the well-being of the child. to have ones mouth stuffed with leaves while being thrashed is very much a form of child abuse.

the child could have swallowed and/or choked on the leaves as he was crying. the leaves could have gotten logged in his throat. lucky for adrian that the child did not pass out.

imo it is a true case of child abuse.

seems very few have concern for the psychological well being of this child. imo part of adrian peterson's future responsibility should be to pay for psychological counseling for his child, and supervised visits only after he attends anger management classes.

he's gotten off light. (i wonder how many people actually care about the trama this 4yr old has gone through and how this will affect his future development?)

money talks

Pretty close 2 reply #33.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Graycap23 said:

It is facinating how in the US u are innocent until proven guilty............except when brothers are involved. It is uncanny how the simple accusation works when it is us involved. No one wants 2 talk about that angle either.

We can talk about that angle, if you wish, in P&R but this thread is in GD and it's about a man that left open and bloody wounds on his four year old child. The same man that just last year, went through the experience of having one of his other children die at the hands of another man that was abusive when dealing with discipling children. This discussion is about child abuse and race has nothing to do with it!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Graycap23 said:

free2bfreeda said:

Adrian Peterson avoids jail time in child abuse case

USA TODAY Sports8:46 p.m. EST November 4, 2014

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/vikings/2014/11/04/adrian-peterson-minnesota-vikings-child-abuse-plea-deal-misdemeanor/18466197/

CONROE, Texas --- Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson pleaded no contest Tuesday to a reduced charge of misdemeanor reckless assault as part of plea deal with prosecutors to resolve his felony child abuse case.

As part of the deal, Peterson will avoid jail time and instead be ordered to pay a $4,000 fine, court costs and 80 hours of community service.

"I truly regret this incident," Peterson said outside the courthouse. "I stand here and take full responsibility for my actions. I love my son more than any one of you could even imagine. I am looking forward to and I am anxious to continue my relationship with my child.

"I am just glad this is over. I can put this behind me and me and my family can begin to move forward."

read more at link:

[i] my main concern is about the well-being of the child. to have ones mouth stuffed with leaves while being thrashed is very much a form of child abuse.

the child could have swallowed and/or choked on the leaves as he was crying. the leaves could have gotten logged in his throat. lucky for adrian that the child did not pass out.

imo it is a true case of child abuse.

seems very few have concern for the psychological well being of this child. imo part of adrian peterson's future responsibility should be to pay for psychological counseling for his child, and supervised visits only after he attends anger management classes.

he's gotten off light. (i wonder how many people actually care about the trama this 4yr old has gone through and how this will affect his future development?)

money talks

Pretty close 2 reply #33.

as in:

i really feel his money gave him a form of exoneration. if he was someone living on an income of $50k a year or less he'd be sentenced to at least a year or more in lock-up.

the man has gotten off too light imo. no one should beat a child like that and stuff his mouth with leaves in any day or age.

[Edited 11/5/14 17:05pm]

Graycap23 said:

Pretty close 2 reply #33.

except that you said there'd be no charges

he got off lightly... as so many famous people do

at least everyone knows now that he's a sick fuck ... because only a sick fuck would do what he did to that little boy