I think cleveland! what about u?

I think it's ridiculous that people are making such a major news item about what team a multi-millionaire is going to choose to be on. I actually heard on the news this morning that fans are saying they are PRAYING that he goes with Cleveland? Praying??? I mean, really? I hope that was just a figure of speech. There are more important things going in the world that people should be praying about.

Whichever works for him = $$$$

yesssssss....now all we gotta do is get prince back to the revolution

daingermouz2020 said:

breaking news: Lebron back in Cleveland.

I'm glad to see the Heat owner leading by example and thanking LeBron instead of treating him like a runaway slave. I hope that Heat fans follow suit and give him a nice farewell.

Thanks and best wishes LeBron....be happy!

Dang. Never saw that coming! But it helps the Houston Rockets immensely, so yay!

Cleveland fans should boo him.

cleveland ragedy azz better be glad the king has returned!

2freaky4church1 said:

Cleveland fans should boo him.

kidmelody2012 said:

cleveland ragedy azz better be glad the king has returned!

2freaky4church1 said:

Cleveland fans should boo him.

I live in Cleveland, and it's not as "ragedy azz" as you might think. We have the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame (cool place to visit, lots of nice stuff to see and learn about), the Cleveland Orchestra (which is very popular), and now Lebron.

But as Kit said, "I think it's ridiculous that people are making such a major news item about what team a multi-millionaire is going to choose to be on. I actually heard on the news this morning that fans are saying they are PRAYING that he goes with Cleveland? Praying??? I mean, really? I hope that was just a figure of speech. There are more important things going in the world that people should be praying about."

I agree 100% with that statement. As I heard someone say, "People act like Lebron is a god", and that is so true. To be honest, I was hoping that Lebron would stay with Miami, because of the way he left us high and dry a few years ago. The city of Cleveland was not very happy with him at all. Now that he's back, who's to say that he won't leave again when and if more money is offered to him to play for another team? It happened once, and it could happen again. I know everyone here is very happy about Lebron coming back, but to be honest, I really am indifferent to the whole thing. I even heard a lady call into a radio station (and she was on the air) telling the DJ that their office was closed for the day. The DJ asked her if it was because Lebron came back to Cleveland, and she confirmed it. I said out loud, "Why?!?!" I mean, it's great that some people are happy that Lebron is back, but to close the office down because of it?? Seems a bit extreme and unnecessary to me. Even if Lebron had decided to stick with Miami, life would still go on.

[Edited 7/12/14 5:31am]

James' letter brought tears to my eyes yesterday when I read it. Not because I'm a Cleveland

Cavaliers fan. I don't even really like today's version of the NBA: I grew up watching the back

end of Showtime and Larry Bird's Celtics; I saw the Bad Boys; I saw Jordan struggling to get

out of the East and finally winning the championship. And I saw the beginning of the end, as

far as I'm concerned, with Allen Iverson's "me-first-team-last-tats-cornrows" attitude.

The reason why I teared up after reading what James had to say yesterday about his return to

the Cavs is because it showed America that Black men, a star athlete at that!, can be truthful to

a perceived calling first, as opposed to chasing material gains. It's important that our Black athletes,

who are role models in Black communities, show kids that honoring the pursuit of purpose can be

just as fulfilling as pursuing happiness.

2freaky4church1 said:

Cleveland fans should boo him.

What's funny is, when Lebron came to town to play a game against the Cavs (when he was still with Miami), the fans booed him big time. I guess all that's forgotten, now that Lebron is coming back to Cleveland. How quickly some fans forget. Some Cleveland fans are fickle.

duccichucka said:

James' letter brought tears to my eyes yesterday when I read it. Not because I'm a Cleveland

Cavaliers fan. I don't even really like today's version of the NBA: I grew up watching the back

end of Showtime and Larry Bird's Celtics; I saw the Bad Boys; I saw Jordan struggling to get

out of the East and finally winning the championship. And I saw the beginning of the end, as

far as I'm concerned, with Allen Iverson's "me-first-team-last-tats-cornrows" attitude.

The reason why I teared up after reading what James had to say yesterday about his return to

the Cavs is because it showed America that Black men, a star athlete at that!, can be truthful to

a perceived calling first, as opposed to chasing material gains. It's important that our Black athletes,

who are role models in Black communities, show kids that honoring the pursuit of purpose can be

just as fulfilling as pursuing happiness.

I have to find that letter. I haven't seen it yet, but I'm curious to see what it says.

psychodelicide said:

I have to find that letter. I haven't seen it yet, but I'm curious to see what it says.

It really is worth a read...respect to LeBron....


LeBron: I'm coming back to Cleveland
by LeBron James (as told to Lee Jenkins)
Posted: Fri Jul. 11, 2014 Updated: Sat Jul. 12, 2014

Before anyone ever cared where I would play basketball, I was a kid from Northeast Ohio. It’s where I walked. It’s where I ran. It’s where I cried. It’s where I bled. It holds a special place in my heart. People there have seen me grow up. I sometimes feel like I’m their son. Their passion can be overwhelming. But it drives me. I want to give them hope when I can. I want to inspire them when I can. My relationship with Northeast Ohio is bigger than basketball. I didn’t realize that four years ago. I do now.

Remember when I was sitting up there at the Boys & Girls Club in 2010? I was thinking, This is really tough. I could feel it. I was leaving something I had spent a long time creating. If I had to do it all over again, I’d obviously do things differently, but I’d still have left. Miami, for me, has been almost like college for other kids. These past four years helped raise me into who I am. I became a better player and a better man. I learned from a franchise that had been where I wanted to go. I will always think of Miami as my second home. Without the experiences I had there, I wouldn’t be able to do what I’m doing today.

I went to Miami because of D-Wade and CB. We made sacrifices to keep UD. I loved becoming a big bro to Rio. I believed we could do something magical if we came together. And that’s exactly what we did! The hardest thing to leave is what I built with those guys. I’ve talked to some of them and will talk to others. Nothing will ever change what we accomplished. We are brothers for life. I also want to thank Micky Arison and Pat Riley for giving me an amazing four years.

I’m doing this essay because I want an opportunity to explain myself uninterrupted. I don’t want anyone thinking: He and Erik Spoelstra didn’t get along. … He and Riles didn’t get along. … The Heat couldn’t put the right team together. That’s absolutely not true.

I’m not having a press conference or a party. After this, it’s time to get to work.

When I left Cleveland, I was on a mission. I was seeking championships, and we won two. But Miami already knew that feeling. Our city hasn’t had that feeling in a long, long, long time. My goal is still to win as many titles as possible, no question. But what’s most important for me is bringing one trophy back to Northeast Ohio.

I always believed that I’d return to Cleveland and finish my career there. I just didn’t know when. After the season, free agency wasn’t even a thought. But I have two boys and my wife, Savannah, is pregnant with a girl. I started thinking about what it would be like to raise my family in my hometown. I looked at other teams, but I wasn’t going to leave Miami for anywhere except Cleveland. The more time passed, the more it felt right. This is what makes me happy.

To make the move I needed the support of my wife and my mom, who can be very tough. The letter from Dan Gilbert, the booing of the Cleveland fans, the jerseys being burned -- seeing all that was hard for them. My emotions were more mixed. It was easy to say, “OK, I don’t want to deal with these people ever again.” But then you think about the other side. What if I were a kid who looked up to an athlete, and that athlete made me want to do better in my own life, and then he left? How would I react? I’ve met with Dan, face-to-face, man-to-man. We’ve talked it out. Everybody makes mistakes. I’ve made mistakes as well. Who am I to hold a grudge?

I’m not promising a championship. I know how hard that is to deliver. We’re not ready right now. No way. Of course, I want to win next year, but I’m realistic. It will be a long process, much longer than it was in 2010. My patience will get tested. I know that. I’m going into a situation with a young team and a new coach. I will be the old head. But I get a thrill out of bringing a group together and helping them reach a place they didn’t know they could go. I see myself as a mentor now and I’m excited to lead some of these talented young guys. I think I can help Kyrie Irving become one of the best point guards in our league. I think I can help elevate Tristan Thompson and Dion Waiters. And I can’t wait to reunite with Anderson Varejao, one of my favorite teammates.

But this is not about the roster or the organization. I feel my calling here goes above basketball. I have a responsibility to lead, in more ways than one, and I take that very seriously. My presence can make a difference in Miami, but I think it can mean more where I’m from. I want kids in Northeast Ohio, like the hundreds of Akron third-graders I sponsor through my foundation, to realize that there’s no better place to grow up. Maybe some of them will come home after college and start a family or open a business. That would make me smile. Our community, which has struggled so much, needs all the talent it can get.

In Northeast Ohio, nothing is given. Everything is earned. You work for what you have.

I’m ready to accept the challenge. I’m coming home.

duccichucka said:

James' letter brought tears to my eyes yesterday when I read it. Not because I'm a Cleveland

Cavaliers fan. I don't even really like today's version of the NBA: I grew up watching the back

end of Showtime and Larry Bird's Celtics; I saw the Bad Boys; I saw Jordan struggling to get

out of the East and finally winning the championship. And I saw the beginning of the end, as

far as I'm concerned, with Allen Iverson's "me-first-team-last-tats-cornrows" attitude.

The reason why I teared up after reading what James had to say yesterday about his return to

the Cavs is because it showed America that Black men, a star athlete at that!, can be truthful to

a perceived calling first, as opposed to chasing material gains. It's important that our Black athletes,

who are role models in Black communities, show kids that honoring the pursuit of purpose can be

just as fulfilling as pursuing happiness.

I hate to be devil's advocate here but how does this work when Lebron's "decision" apparently cost Wade about $42 million? Also, this is clearly about money because even though Miami would have paid him more, he didn't want to risk his legacy (which includes endorsements into his old age) if he would have lost again--which they would have because the Spurs would have won---you know the team the media forgets about actually winning.

He had nowhere else to go but back to Cleveland because otherwise, for him to be "King" and better than Jordan (gag) and to ring hop to all these teams before even turning 30 would have been the final nail in the coffin.

Someone please explain to me how Cleveland also got all those top draft picks the past four years that he was gone and now he's back in Cleveland just in time to be surrounded by top picks. But, how many teams have won the finals with a veteran or two, a bunch of rookies and an inexperienced head coach?

Lebron was humiliated being detroyed by the Spurs. This is strictly about his pride at this point.

there is a reason free agents dont wanna go to Cleveland....its Ragedy and boring and only people who couldnt cut it in real cities like Chicago and New york live there....

psychodelicide said:

kidmelody2012 said:

cleveland ragedy azz better be glad the king has returned!

I live in Cleveland, and it's not as "ragedy azz" as you might think. We have the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame (cool place to visit, lots of nice stuff to see and learn about), the Cleveland Orchestra (which is very popular), and now Lebron.

But as Kit said, "I think it's ridiculous that people are making such a major news item about what team a multi-millionaire is going to choose to be on. I actually heard on the news this morning that fans are saying they are PRAYING that he goes with Cleveland? Praying??? I mean, really? I hope that was just a figure of speech. There are more important things going in the world that people should be praying about."

I agree 100% with that statement. As I heard someone say, "People act like Lebron is a god", and that is so true. To be honest, I was hoping that Lebron would stay with Miami, because of the way he left us high and dry a few years ago. The city of Cleveland was not very happy with him at all. Now that he's back, who's to say that he won't leave again when and if more money is offered to him to play for another team? It happened once, and it could happen again. I know everyone here is very happy about Lebron coming back, but to be honest, I really am indifferent to the whole thing. I even heard a lady call into a radio station (and she was on the air) telling the DJ that their office was closed for the day. The DJ asked her if it was because Lebron came back to Cleveland, and she confirmed it. I said out loud, "Why?!?!" I mean, it's great that some people are happy that Lebron is back, but to close the office down because of it?? Seems a bit extreme and unnecessary to me. Even if Lebron had decided to stick with Miami, life would still go on.

[Edited 7/12/14 5:31am]

kidmelody2012 said:

there is a reason free agents dont wanna go to Cleveland....its Ragedy and boring and only people who couldnt cut it in real cities like Chicago and New york live there....

psychodelicide said:

I live in Cleveland, and it's not as "ragedy azz" as you might think. We have the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame (cool place to visit, lots of nice stuff to see and learn about), the Cleveland Orchestra (which is very popular), and now Lebron.

But as Kit said, "I think it's ridiculous that people are making such a major news item about what team a multi-millionaire is going to choose to be on. I actually heard on the news this morning that fans are saying they are PRAYING that he goes with Cleveland? Praying??? I mean, really? I hope that was just a figure of speech. There are more important things going in the world that people should be praying about."

I agree 100% with that statement. As I heard someone say, "People act like Lebron is a god", and that is so true. To be honest, I was hoping that Lebron would stay with Miami, because of the way he left us high and dry a few years ago. The city of Cleveland was not very happy with him at all. Now that he's back, who's to say that he won't leave again when and if more money is offered to him to play for another team? It happened once, and it could happen again. I know everyone here is very happy about Lebron coming back, but to be honest, I really am indifferent to the whole thing. I even heard a lady call into a radio station (and she was on the air) telling the DJ that their office was closed for the day. The DJ asked her if it was because Lebron came back to Cleveland, and she confirmed it. I said out loud, "Why?!?!" I mean, it's great that some people are happy that Lebron is back, but to close the office down because of it?? Seems a bit extreme and unnecessary to me. Even if Lebron had decided to stick with Miami, life would still go on.

[Edited 7/12/14 5:31am]

I really hope I don't insult anyone from Ohio but I found it to be one of the oddest places I have ever been and trust me, I grew up in a really backwards state so I get it but Ohio takes the cake. It was like being in a time machine there.

SeventeenDayze said:

duccichucka said:

James' letter brought tears to my eyes yesterday when I read it. Not because I'm a Cleveland

Cavaliers fan. I don't even really like today's version of the NBA: I grew up watching the back

end of Showtime and Larry Bird's Celtics; I saw the Bad Boys; I saw Jordan struggling to get

out of the East and finally winning the championship. And I saw the beginning of the end, as

far as I'm concerned, with Allen Iverson's "me-first-team-last-tats-cornrows" attitude.

The reason why I teared up after reading what James had to say yesterday about his return to

the Cavs is because it showed America that Black men, a star athlete at that!, can be truthful to

a perceived calling first, as opposed to chasing material gains. It's important that our Black athletes,

who are role models in Black communities, show kids that honoring the pursuit of purpose can be

just as fulfilling as pursuing happiness.

I hate to be devil's advocate here but how does this work when Lebron's "decision" apparently cost Wade about $42 million? Also, this is clearly about money because even though Miami would have paid him more, he didn't want to risk his legacy (which includes endorsements into his old age) if he would have lost again--which they would have because the Spurs would have won---you know the team the media forgets about actually winning.

He had nowhere else to go but back to Cleveland because otherwise, for him to be "King" and better than Jordan (gag) and to ring hop to all these teams before even turning 30 would have been the final nail in the coffin.

Someone please explain to me how Cleveland also got all those top draft picks the past four years that he was gone and now he's back in Cleveland just in time to be surrounded by top picks. But, how many teams have won the finals with a veteran or two, a bunch of rookies and an inexperienced head coach?

Lebron was humiliated being detroyed by the Spurs. This is strictly about his pride at this point.

How does what work? You did not respond to the point I made in my post, which was, Lebron

James opting to follow after a purpose/calling, as opposed to anything else, is refreshing to

witness from Black athletes. He did not "have" to go back to Cleveland. He was a free agent;

operative word here is "free," indicating that any team could be a suitor and that is what we

saw this summer. You have to take his word for it: this is not about money. This about

fulfilling a calling, which is to be a leader, however that guise is expressed, in his beloved

community over anything else, including winning. Cleveland is in no position to challenge for

a title now, something even James admitted to in his letter.

As for your point about Wade - he and his wrecked knees will not find any more

money than he will find in Miami. LBJ didn't cost Wade anything. Wade will be good. And

since when was Lebron James responsible for how Dwyane Wade is going to feed his family?

Never. So no, it does not follow from your argument that James' return to Cleveland is

about money. I don't follow your argument about "legacy" either as Lebron James is the

most popular (and best) NBA player in the world with two championships. How many rings

does Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing, Allen Iverson have? None. And their

legacies are intact despite losing in the finals year after year.

Who cares how Cleveland won the lotteries all those years? Not me. Why? Because their

picks haven't turned out to be colossal stars. Irving is good, but he's super young and if

you check the teams of NBA winners, most rings go to teams with old-as-fuck players.

But even if all of this is wrong: you are still missing the bigger picture here, and playing devil's

advocate means you reject the bigger picture: he is telling us that it is a "calling" to return

to Cleveland in order to lead. Whatever his true reasons are, this sets an excellent example

that Black kids can use - following after your purpose is just as rewarding and fulfilling as

following after material gain, money, and fame. This brother was talking about a "calling"

that is "beyond" basketball - I marveled at this kind of thinking yesterday. You should too.

duccichucka said:

SeventeenDayze said:

I hate to be devil's advocate here but how does this work when Lebron's "decision" apparently cost Wade about $42 million? Also, this is clearly about money because even though Miami would have paid him more, he didn't want to risk his legacy (which includes endorsements into his old age) if he would have lost again--which they would have because the Spurs would have won---you know the team the media forgets about actually winning.

He had nowhere else to go but back to Cleveland because otherwise, for him to be "King" and better than Jordan (gag) and to ring hop to all these teams before even turning 30 would have been the final nail in the coffin.

Someone please explain to me how Cleveland also got all those top draft picks the past four years that he was gone and now he's back in Cleveland just in time to be surrounded by top picks. But, how many teams have won the finals with a veteran or two, a bunch of rookies and an inexperienced head coach?

Lebron was humiliated being detroyed by the Spurs. This is strictly about his pride at this point.

How does what work? You did not respond to the point I made in my post, which was, Lebron

James opting to follow after a purpose/calling, as opposed to anything else, is refreshing to

witness from Black athletes. He did not "have" to go back to Cleveland. He was a free agent;

operative word here is "free," indicating that any team could be a suitor and that is what we

saw this summer. You have to take his word for it: this is not about money. This about

fulfilling a calling, which is to be a leader, however that guise is expressed, in his beloved

community over anything else, including winning. Cleveland is in no position to challenge for

a title now, something even James admitted to in his letter.

As for your point about Wade - he and his wrecked knees will not find any more

money than he will find in Miami. LBJ didn't cost Wade anything. Wade will be good. And

since when was Lebron James responsible for how Dwyane Wade is going to feed his family?

Never. So no, it does not follow from your argument that James' return to Cleveland is

about money. I don't follow your argument about "legacy" either as Lebron James is the

most popular (and best) NBA player in the world with two championships. How many rings

does Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing, Allen Iverson have? None. And their

legacies are intact despite losing in the finals year after year.

Who cares how Cleveland won the lotteries all those years? Not me. Why? Because their

picks haven't turned out to be colossal stars. Irving is good, but he's super young and if

you check the teams of NBA winners, most rings go to teams with old-as-fuck players.

But even if all of this is wrong: you are still missing the bigger picture here, and playing devil's

advocate means you reject the bigger picture: he is telling us that it is a "calling" to return

to Cleveland in order to lead. Whatever his true reasons are, this sets an excellent example

that Black kids can use - following after your purpose is just as rewarding and fulfilling as

following after material gain, money, and fame. This brother was talking about a "calling"

that is "beyond" basketball - I marveled at this kind of thinking yesterday. You should too.

It seems that you're not only playing a semantics game, you are also trying to convince me that since, as you said, Lebron is talking about his "calling beyond basketball" that apparently this had nothing to do with money, legacy, teammates and a bruised ego. This somehow has everything to do with his mythical existence in Ohio, a desolate place that "needs" Lebron like the air they breathe.

I'm not missing the big picture at all. It seems that you're using fluff and rhetoric to hide behind the fact that you can't really argue with facts. It is simply unheard of for a so-called star player to make the finals four years in a row and then suddenly get the urge to leave that same team the year that they lost and go back to a team who, as you said, is probably not going to be a contender. So, follow your own logic. If this had nothing to do with "basketball", "winning championships", etc. then he would have STAYED with his team that lost!!! So, think about it. You can't possibly think that this guy is some kind of hero for going to a losing team when he left a team that had just lost the finals!!!!

I'm done.

SeventeenDayze said:

kidmelody2012 said:

there is a reason free agents dont wanna go to Cleveland....its Ragedy and boring and only people who couldnt cut it in real cities like Chicago and New york live there....

I really hope I don't insult anyone from Ohio but I found it to be one of the oddest places I have ever been and trust me, I grew up in a really backwards state so I get it but Ohio takes the cake. It was like being in a time machine there.

Backwards how?I,m from cleveland and it's just like any other major city in any state.Most states are the same.You have the country part and you have the cities.You think New York state looks like NYC everywhere?As far as people wondering why Lebron is big for the city it's because he boost alot of north east ohio economy when he's here and Lebron will attract big name players no matter where he plays.Why are people acting like we shouldn't be happy Lebron is back? Isn't that the whole point of sports is to root for your team and if you are not on the team boo that person?Lebron means alot because he is home grown and I bet my life that if the same thing went down with him in any other city like in cleveland in 2010 he would of probably recieved death threats or worse so don't act like it's just a cleveland thing.

The man is homesick, and it goes to show that he really loves his wife and family, just to be near them.

when he getting his azz destroyed by the Spurs every year hometown wont matter

Beautifulstarr123 said:

The man is homesick, and it goes to show that he really loves his wife and family, just to be near them.

I really want to think that but I don't, maybe there is doubt about this guy because of some of the decisions that he's made and continues to make.

daingermouz2020 said:

Im happy for Lebron. I dont think he ever wanted to leave Cleveland. but I wonder Isn't this move back really because of how bad the Spurs beat them? If Miami had won,would LeBron had opt out and went back home? I dont think so. This more about the loss.

Well then I'll be sending Tim Duncan and Tony parker thank you notes and gift baskets!!

dbpdexter said:

SeventeenDayze said:

I really hope I don't insult anyone from Ohio but I found it to be one of the oddest places I have ever been and trust me, I grew up in a really backwards state so I get it but Ohio takes the cake. It was like being in a time machine there.

Backwards how?I,m from cleveland and it's just like any other major city in any state.Most states are the same.You have the country part and you have the cities.You think New York state looks like NYC everywhere?As far as people wondering why Lebron is big for the city it's because he boost alot of north east ohio economy when he's here and Lebron will attract big name players no matter where he plays.Why are people acting like we shouldn't be happy Lebron is back? Isn't that the whole point of sports is to root for your team and if you are not on the team boo that person?Lebron means alot because he is home grown and I bet my life that if the same thing went down with him in any other city like in cleveland in 2010 he would of probably recieved death threats or worse so don't act like it's just a cleveland thing.

In the post that you are referring to, I made no reference at all to Lebron. So, please pay closer attention to what I was saying. I felt that it was weird there because of what appeared to be a backwards mentality. I was out with a group of folks (white and black) and we were all from out of town. Anyway, we walk into a bar and people kept staring at us because apparently they weren't used to seeing whites and blacks kicking it. We weren't at some KKK bar either. This was in the middle of the city!

I was at another function by myself and some random chick walked up to me and said she could tell that I wasn't from there because of how I was dressed. No "hello", No "My name is", this chick blurts out words that clearly proved that she's lived under that Ohio rock for longer than a minute.

Okay, I'm done.

daingermouz2020 said:

Im happy for Lebron. I dont think he ever wanted to leave Cleveland. but I wonder Isn't this move back really because of how bad the Spurs beat them? If Miami had won,would LeBron had opt out and went back home? I dont think so. This more about the loss.

I agree that he wouldn't be going back to Cleveland if he would have won. Not a chance. The Spurs steamrolled him and his team on national TV and the echoes of his "Not 1, Not 2, etc." speech are still alive and well in the minds of folks who enjoyed mocking him after they lost.

dbpdexter said:

SeventeenDayze said:

dbpdexter said:

Backwards how?I,m from cleveland and it's just like any other major city in any state.Most states are the same.You have the country part and you have the cities.You think New York state looks like NYC everywhere?As far as people wondering why Lebron is big for the city it's because he boost alot of north east ohio economy when he's here and Lebron will attract big name players no matter where he plays.Why are people acting like we shouldn't be happy Lebron is back? Isn't that the whole point of sports is to root for your team and if you are not on the team boo that person?Lebron means alot because he is home grown and I bet my life that if the same thing went down with him in any other city like in cleveland in 2010 he would of probably recieved death threats or worse so don't act like it's just a cleveland thing.

In the post that you are referring to, I made no reference at all to Lebron. So, please pay closer attention to what I was saying. I felt that it was weird there because of what appeared to be a backwards mentality. I was out with a group of folks (white and black) and we were all from out of town. Anyway, we walk into a bar and people kept staring at us because apparently they weren't used to seeing whites and blacks kicking it. We weren't at some KKK bar either. This was in the middle of the city!

I was at another function by myself and some random chick walked up to me and said she could tell that I wasn't from there because of how I was dressed. No "hello", No "My name is", this chick blurts out words that clearly proved that she's lived under that Ohio rock for longer than a minute.

Okay, I'm done.

Wasn't just talking to you if you pay closer attention you will see another quote in a qoute and I was also talking about other comments in this thread and speaking in general.You're not the only person who posted in this thread and the story you told sounds like it would've happened in any city or state in the united states not just ohio.My friends are all different colors of the rainbow and I never had a problem hanging out with them in cleveland.Not trying to be all pissy cause I'm a cool guy but I'm just sticking up for my home just like anybody else would.

SeventeenDayze said:

I'm not missing the big picture at all...If this had nothing to do with "basketball", "winning championships", etc. then he would have STAYED with his team that lost!!! So, think about it. You can't possibly think that this guy is some kind of hero for going to a losing team when he left a team that had just lost the finals!!!!

I'm done.

You are done and missing the big picture when you think the totality of life is just about winning

and losing some game.