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Thread started 05/30/14 8:51pm

TonyVanDam

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USA vs. UK: Who Has THE best food ever?

I like to know what kinds of foods and meals the UK has that is better or equal to these USA's classics:

Southern Fried Chicken

Louisiana Gumbo (chicken, seafood, whatever...)

Baked Salmon

New York styled Cheesecake

Chicago styled Hot Dogs (100% beef)

Boston Cream Pies

Texas Sirloin Steaks and Idaho Baked Potatoes

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Reply #1 posted 05/30/14 9:24pm

728huey

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TonyVanDam said:

I like to know what kinds of foods and meals the UK has that is better or equal to these USA's classics:

Southern Fried Chicken

Louisiana Gumbo (chicken, seafood, whatever...)

Baked Salmon

New York styled Cheesecake

Chicago styled Hot Dogs (100% beef)

Boston Cream Pies

Texas Sirloin Steaks and Idaho Baked Potatoes


By far the USA has better food than the UK. woot! excited flag foodnow

But I think this needs to be whittled down a bit. The USA has a whole buffet of dishes that actually have their genesis in other countries, so it should be limited to strictly American-born cuisine. I would hesitate to put Louisiana style cajun/creole cuisine in that category, since much of it is actually based on French cuisine yet has very Southern USA elements to it. The same could be said for Tex-Mex cuisine with its obvious Mexican influence.

The better comparison would be not with the UK, but France, Italy, China, and Japan. And as much as I love good ol' American ice cream, apple pie, and Hershey's chocolate, some of Belgium's desserts put our desserts to shame.

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Reply #2 posted 05/30/14 9:42pm

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This is a joke, right?

Three words...Philly Cheese Steak! headbang

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Reply #3 posted 05/30/14 11:08pm

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The UK is not known for it's cuisine. So, USA wins easily. However, fusion of foods continues to be the thing every where.

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Reply #4 posted 05/31/14 5:14am

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USA! USA! USA! foodnow
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Reply #5 posted 05/31/14 8:27am

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The US has a great variety of food but I don't believe they have the quality of ingredients the UK has. We are pretty much everything goes over here.
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Reply #6 posted 05/31/14 8:39am

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They can stick them kidney pies up their arses. Taste like arse.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #7 posted 05/31/14 10:51am

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Umm, neither country comes anywhere close to having the best food ever.

America does have great once in a while treat food but it's all highly processed and or very unhealthy.

Thai, Malaysian, Indian and Middle Eastern are examples of very tasty, balanced and healthy food. Stuff you can enjoy and eat daily without needing to cruise the pavement on a mobility scooter with two oxygen tanks strapped on the back. An image I keep seeing here in Hawaii on holiday.

That being said, I've 2 days left and am determined to cram in a pizza, ribs, more Hot wings and a healthier Ahi Poke option as well.
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
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Reply #8 posted 05/31/14 10:52am

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2freaky4church1 said:

They can stick them kidney pies up their arses. Taste like arse.




I used to pick all the kidney out. That is horrible stuff to be sure.
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Reply #9 posted 05/31/14 10:52am

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TonyVanDam said:

I like to know what kinds of foods and meals the UK has that is better or equal to these USA's classics:



Southern Fried Chicken


Louisiana Gumbo (chicken, seafood, whatever...)


Baked Salmon


New York styled Cheesecake


Chicago styled Hot Dogs (100% beef)


Boston Cream Pies


Texas Sirloin Steaks and Idaho Baked Potatoes




You forgot a Cleveland Steamer.
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Reply #10 posted 05/31/14 11:58am

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FTW...

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Reply #11 posted 05/31/14 12:19pm

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I know the UK is not known for their food, but what dishes are good in the UK? I always hear about Yorkshier pudding, any good? How is the beer there?

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Reply #12 posted 05/31/14 12:46pm

lust

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kpowers said:

I know the UK is not known for their food, but what dishes are good in the UK? I always hear about Yorkshier pudding, any good? How is the beer there?



Put it this way. The best selling British takeaway is Indian!

The most traditional is fish and chips. Deep fried fish in batter with thick hand cut "fries" with salt and vinegar and served in paper.

Most of the more old school traditional stuff is from traditionally poorer food.

Shepherds Pie
Bubble and squeak
Toad in the hole
Tickle on the Tum*

And mostly, with the exception of my homemade shepherds pie, not worth getting excited about.

These days though, the foodie scene in London is massive and you can get high quality food from all over the world including U.S style smoke houses.

Beer wise, people either drink European lager or more traditional English Ales. The latter will be an acquired taste if you're used to chilled lagers. Ales are served at cellar temperature, hand pulled, not fizzy and generally quite low in alcohol, around 3%. The closest thing I've seen on tap in the U.S is Boddingtons but it wasn't as creamy and more amber in colour than most ales.



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* that one was a kid's tv show, not a food but it seemed to fit.
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Reply #13 posted 05/31/14 12:48pm

lust

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kpowers said:

I know the UK is not known for their food, but what dishes are good in the UK? I always hear about Yorkshier pudding, any good? How is the beer there?




People from up north seem to love Yorkshire pudding and no one can make it like their dear old mum.

Personally I think it's bloody pointless shit. Just give me an extra spud.
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Reply #14 posted 05/31/14 1:25pm

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lust said:

kpowers said:

I know the UK is not known for their food, but what dishes are good in the UK? I always hear about Yorkshier pudding, any good? How is the beer there?

Put it this way. The best selling British takeaway is Indian! The most traditional is fish and chips. Deep fried fish in batter with thick hand cut "fries" with salt and vinegar and served in paper. Most of the more old school traditional stuff is from traditionally poorer food. Shepherds Pie Bubble and squeak Toad in the hole Tickle on the Tum* And mostly, with the exception of my homemade shepherds pie, not worth getting excited about. These days though, the foodie scene in London is massive and you can get high quality food from all over the world including U.S style smoke houses. Beer wise, people either drink European lager or more traditional English Ales. The latter will be an acquired taste if you're used to chilled lagers. Ales are served at cellar temperature, hand pulled, not fizzy and generally quite low in alcohol, around 3%. The closest thing I've seen on tap in the U.S is Boddingtons but it wasn't as creamy and more amber in colour than most ales. .. . * that one was a kid's tv show, not a food but it seemed to fit.

thumbs up! Thanks for the info

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Reply #15 posted 05/31/14 1:34pm

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Italy, Spain, France

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Reply #16 posted 05/31/14 8:44pm

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TonyVanDam said:

I like to know what kinds of foods and meals the UK has that is better or equal to these USA's classics:

Southern Fried Chicken

Louisiana Gumbo (chicken, seafood, whatever...)

Baked Salmon

New York styled Cheesecake

Chicago styled Hot Dogs (100% beef)

Boston Cream Pies

Texas Sirloin Steaks and Idaho Baked Potatoes

Of course the US has better food. Why even bother to ask? smile

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Reply #17 posted 06/01/14 12:09am

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I ain't English but grew up here & I do a mean Sunday roast, shepherds pie & bangers & mash hmph!
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Reply #18 posted 06/01/14 1:24am

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needing to cruise the pavement on a mobility scooter with two oxygen tanks strapped on the back.

For me that pretty sums it up when it comes to the effects of a typical american diet.

I know, it's a cliche but most times when i come across typical or just average amercian recipes i can't help but think how unhealthy it is.

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Reply #19 posted 06/01/14 4:49am

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babynoz said:

This is a joke, right?

Three words...Philly Cheese Steak! headbang

YES! nod

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Reply #20 posted 06/01/14 4:53am

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deebee said:

FTW...

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Reply #21 posted 06/01/14 10:46am

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deebee said:

FTW...



From Wikipedia.

Spotted dick is a pudding popular in Britain, containing dried fruit (usually currants or raisins) commonly served with custard. Spotted refers to the dried fruit (which resemble spots) and dick may be a contraction or corruption of the word pudding (from the last syllable) or possibly a corruption of the word dough[1] or dog, as "spotted dog" is another name for the same dish with the use of plums rather than currants. Another explanation offered for the word "dick" is that it is the German word for "thick."

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the earliest documented reference is a recipe for "Plum Bolster, or Spotted Dick", in Alexis Soyer's The modern Housewife or ménagère (1849).[2][3]
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Reply #22 posted 06/01/14 4:49pm

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kewlschool said:

The UK is not known for it's cuisine. So, USA wins easily. However, fusion of foods continues to be the thing every where.


How so? what is a traditional USA dish?

For straters, tt depends on whether you are comparing tradtional dishes or quality of current food.

UK traditional dishes are not world famous, but the quality of British Chefs and volume of Michelin Star restaurants are world leading.



Chinese and Indian are arguably the best/most popular cuisines globally, but most professionals would agree that they are best produced in the UK.

UK traditional dishes don't export well, but outside of Chinese, Indian, French, Mexican, Thai and Italian, the same can be said for most countries. Been to a German, Soth African, Egyptian or Australian restaurant recently?

Outside of the burger and fast food, the US don't have much global take up. From Mac & Cheese and Philly Steak to Twinkies and Hershey, the rest of the world don't go for it.

The US do produce the best steak in the world and the Uk probably the best roast dinner, but bother are French in origin.

Fish and chips is arguably the most traditonal British dish. No surprise when they are an island surrounded by water and Potato is the easiest veg to produce in the climate.


US cuisine is mostly a mish mash. Variants of Mexican or Italian and the like. In fact, what are traditional US dishes?

Can't think of any passed Meatloaf and Grits?



The US doesn't suffer from poor quality choice or quality, it suffers from being a young country with little original ideas left. Same goes for Australia.

The US answer seems to be to take whatever is selling, cover in it cheese, fry it or supersize it. When the only flavoured milk unavailable in Schools is 'Natural', you know its going downhill.

Personally, I find cuisine from the likes of Mongolia, Lebanon, Argentina and Hungary much more interesting than either the UK or US.

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Reply #23 posted 06/01/14 4:52pm

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TonyVanDam said:

I like to know what kinds of foods and meals the UK has that is better or equal to these USA's classics:

Southern Fried Chicken

Louisiana Gumbo (chicken, seafood, whatever...)

Baked Salmon

New York styled Cheesecake

Chicago styled Hot Dogs (100% beef)

Boston Cream Pies

Texas Sirloin Steaks and Idaho Baked Potatoes



LOL. None of which are traditional USA dishes.

Try twinkies and Cornflakes. Born in the USA.

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Reply #24 posted 06/01/14 6:23pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

TonyVanDam said:

I like to know what kinds of foods and meals the UK has that is better or equal to these USA's classics:

Southern Fried Chicken

Louisiana Gumbo (chicken, seafood, whatever...)

Baked Salmon

New York styled Cheesecake

Chicago styled Hot Dogs (100% beef)

Boston Cream Pies

Texas Sirloin Steaks and Idaho Baked Potatoes



LOL. None of which are traditional USA dishes.

Try twinkies and Cornflakes. Born in the USA.


lol

You're confusing the term "traditional" with "native".
The United States of America is a Euro-expat country with influences from the many peoples who have "melded" into modern America.

All of the examples that Tony listed are indeed "traditional" in the sense that they are ingrained into our culture and are thought of as "American".

If you want homegrown examples...well, those are few and far between...

There's GRITS


CLAMBAKES


...and for a more MODERN example...

DEEP FRIED COCA COLA


foodnow

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Reply #25 posted 06/01/14 9:10pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

kewlschool said:

The UK is not known for it's cuisine. So, USA wins easily. However, fusion of foods continues to be the thing every where.


How so? what is a traditional USA dish?

For straters, tt depends on whether you are comparing tradtional dishes or quality of current food.

UK traditional dishes are not world famous, but the quality of British Chefs and volume of Michelin Star restaurants are world leading.



Chinese and Indian are arguably the best/most popular cuisines globally, but most professionals would agree that they are best produced in the UK.

UK traditional dishes don't export well, but outside of Chinese, Indian, French, Mexican, Thai and Italian, the same can be said for most countries. Been to a German, Soth African, Egyptian or Australian restaurant recently?

Outside of the burger and fast food, the US don't have much global take up. From Mac & Cheese and Philly Steak to Twinkies and Hershey, the rest of the world don't go for it.

The US do produce the best steak in the world and the Uk probably the best roast dinner, but bother are French in origin.

Fish and chips is arguably the most traditonal British dish. No surprise when they are an island surrounded by water and Potato is the easiest veg to produce in the climate.


US cuisine is mostly a mish mash. Variants of Mexican or Italian and the like. In fact, what are traditional US dishes?

Can't think of any passed Meatloaf and Grits?



The US doesn't suffer from poor quality choice or quality, it suffers from being a young country with little original ideas left. Same goes for Australia.

The US answer seems to be to take whatever is selling, cover in it cheese, fry it or supersize it. When the only flavoured milk unavailable in Schools is 'Natural', you know its going downhill.

Personally, I find cuisine from the likes of Mongolia, Lebanon, Argentina and Hungary much more interesting than either the UK or US.

American Pizza as we know it today is truly Italain American founded in NY,NY. The traditional "pizza" of Italy is much different.

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Reply #26 posted 06/01/14 11:29pm

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Reply #27 posted 06/02/14 12:31am

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SquirrelMeat said:

TonyVanDam said:

I like to know what kinds of foods and meals the UK has that is better or equal to these USA's classics:

Southern Fried Chicken

Louisiana Gumbo (chicken, seafood, whatever...)

Baked Salmon

New York styled Cheesecake

Chicago styled Hot Dogs (100% beef)

Boston Cream Pies

Texas Sirloin Steaks and Idaho Baked Potatoes



LOL. None of which are traditional USA dishes.

Try twinkies and Cornflakes. Born in the USA.

fishslap Watch it you! no no no! lol And just so you know, the best steaks and burgers are from Texas, USA. Only the Fatburgers from California can rival them. wink

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Reply #28 posted 06/02/14 1:54am

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babynoz said:

This is a joke, right?

Three words...Philly Cheese Steak! headbang

Why is this the first thing I thought when I came in here? lol

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Reply #29 posted 06/02/14 1:55am

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NY style pizza! I don't know if this counts but it's still.... drool

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