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Reply #30 posted 06/02/14 5:20am

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KidaDynamite said:

NY style pizza! I don't know if this counts but it's still.... drool


DAMN RIGHT it does! nod flag foodnow

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Reply #31 posted 06/03/14 12:12am

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SquirrelMeat said:

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The UK is not known for it's cuisine. So, USA wins easily. However, fusion of foods continues to be the thing every where.


How so? what is a traditional USA dish?

For straters, tt depends on whether you are comparing tradtional dishes or quality of current food.

UK traditional dishes are not world famous, but the quality of British Chefs and volume of Michelin Star restaurants are world leading.



Chinese and Indian are arguably the best/most popular cuisines globally, but most professionals would agree that they are best produced in the UK.

UK traditional dishes don't export well, but outside of Chinese, Indian, French, Mexican, Thai and Italian, the same can be said for most countries. Been to a German, Soth African, Egyptian or Australian restaurant recently?

Outside of the burger and fast food, the US don't have much global take up. From Mac & Cheese and Philly Steak to Twinkies and Hershey, the rest of the world don't go for it.

The US do produce the best steak in the world and the Uk probably the best roast dinner, but bother are French in origin.

Fish and chips is arguably the most traditonal British dish. No surprise when they are an island surrounded by water and Potato is the easiest veg to produce in the climate.


US cuisine is mostly a mish mash. Variants of Mexican or Italian and the like. In fact, what are traditional US dishes?

Can't think of any passed Meatloaf and Grits?



The US doesn't suffer from poor quality choice or quality, it suffers from being a young country with little original ideas left. Same goes for Australia.

The US answer seems to be to take whatever is selling, cover in it cheese, fry it or supersize it. When the only flavoured milk unavailable in Schools is 'Natural', you know its going downhill.

Personally, I find cuisine from the likes of Mongolia, Lebanon, Argentina and Hungary much more interesting than either the UK or US.

Doesn't export well either. Thai restaurants are everywhere, sure, but great ones aren't.

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Reply #32 posted 06/03/14 1:44am

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Think I gained weight from eating at McDonalds again... was doing good for many years and haven't eaten at that death trap but I started up again. sigh

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Reply #33 posted 06/03/14 1:45am

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^Meaning that McDonalds is an American food, and it's awful!!! mad

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Reply #34 posted 06/03/14 3:32am

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wildgoldenhoney said:

^Meaning that McDonalds is an American food, and it's awful!!! mad

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Reply #35 posted 06/03/14 3:35am

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PurpleJedi said:

KidaDynamite said:

NY style pizza! I don't know if this counts but it's still.... drool


DAMN RIGHT it does! nod flag foodnow

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Reply #36 posted 06/03/14 4:44am

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Stymie said:

The US has a great variety of food but I don't believe they have the quality of ingredients the UK has. We are pretty much everything goes over here.


Exactly.

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Reply #37 posted 06/03/14 5:53pm

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wildgoldenhoney said:

Think I gained weight from eating at McDonalds again... was doing good for many years and haven't eaten at that death trap but I started up again. sigh

You see, if you would have stuck with hash browns and coffee, you would have been OK. But you just had to get that freaking Big Mac for lunch, didn't you?!? disbelief lol

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Reply #38 posted 06/05/14 10:42am

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TonyVanDam said:

SquirrelMeat said:



LOL. None of which are traditional USA dishes.

Try twinkies and Cornflakes. Born in the USA.

fishslap Watch it you! no no no! lol And just so you know, the best steaks and burgers are from Texas, USA. Only the Fatburgers from California can rival them. wink


What the USA do with beef can't be rivalled. It many be genetically modified, but it tastes damn good.

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Reply #39 posted 06/05/14 12:29pm

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i visited london over 10 years ago, and a friend who has family there told me to stay away from the native UK food, and eat the food from their former colonies - indian curry, chinese food (HK), and jamaican jerk. i have to say, generally, that was good advice. lol granted, the fish and chips i had from a place near covent garden and the tea i had at the british museum were good but, sadly kind of the exceptions. on the other hand, i took the chunnel over to paris and even the simplest sandwich i had there was great.

i understand we've invaded their little island with starbucks, which wasn't there when i went, so maybe the coffee has stepped up a bit. when i was there, it all tasted like sanka, no matter where i got it. in all fairness, the brits are into tea, not coffee, so maybe that was the problem.

speaking as a cali girl, i've noticed that food is generally "better" on the east coast in that they do comfort food really, really well. while we do have our hamburgers, mexican food, and the like, californians tend toward an "organic and wholesome" thing and that ethos doesn't always lend itself to all out crazy, sloppy goodness that tends to come from back east or certainly down south. just my observation from my travels! lol

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Reply #40 posted 06/06/14 3:44pm

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Okay, I had to look this up since the States have influence of all over the world in it's food, it isn't easy coming up with authentic American food.

Even these have some cross influence but still...



New England Clam Chowder

Baked Beans

The beans presently used to make baked beans are all native to North America and were introduced to Italy in 1528 and to France by 1547. per Wikipedia


Peanut Butter and Jelly



Hawaiian Food

Popcorn

Cranberry Sauce

History of Cranberries

The cranberry, along with the blueberry and Concord grape, is one of North America's three native fruits that are commercially grown. Cranberries were first used by Native Americans, who discovered the wild berry's versatility as a food, fabric dye and healing agent. Today, cranberries are commercially grown throughout the northern part of the United States and are available in both fresh and processed forms.

The name "cranberry" derives from the Pilgrim name for the fruit, "craneberry", so called because the small, pink blossoms that appear in the spring resemble the head and bill of a Sandhill crane. European settlers adopted the Native American uses for the fruit and found the berry a valuable bartering tool.

More later.



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Reply #41 posted 06/06/14 4:35pm

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10 Foods America Gave to the World

Avocado

Avocado

Chili Pepper



Chocolate


I mean really. Contest over.


Corn




The early English settlers called the Native tribe's staple crop "Indian grain," then "Indian corn" which was later shortened to just "corn." Corn was vital in the survival of the first European settlers, as it produces much more grain from an acre of land than any other crop, and can be eaten fresh and stored for long periods dry.




Papaya




Peanut



Today, China is the world's largest producer of peanuts. It was brought to China by the Portuguese in the 1600's, and became a very popular addition to many dishes, as anyone who frequents Chinese restaurant knows.



Pineapple




Potato



Since this will raise eyebrows
This starchy tuber's origins are traced back to the prehistoric mountains of Argentina. It eventually migrated up through all the Americas and was eventually taken back to Europe where it found many homes, Ireland being the most famous. While there were originally only a handful of varieties cultivated, today there are over 5,000 varieties. Interestingly, the commercial varieties that Americans currently enjoy were actually developed in Europe.

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Reply #42 posted 06/06/14 7:11pm

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morningsong said:

10 Foods America Gave to the World


Avocado


Avocado

Chili Pepper




Chocolate





I mean really. Contest over.



Corn





The early English settlers called the Native tribe's staple crop "Indian grain," then "Indian corn" which was later shortened to just "corn." Corn was vital in the survival of the first European settlers, as it produces much more grain from an acre of land than any other crop, and can be eaten fresh and stored for long periods dry.




Papaya





Peanut







Pineapple





Potato




Since this will raise eyebrows


This starchy tuber's origins are traced back to the prehistoric mountains of Argentina. It eventually migrated up through all the Americas and was eventually taken back to Europe where it found many homes, Ireland being the most famous. While there were originally only a handful of varieties cultivated, today there are over 5,000 varieties. Interestingly, the commercial varieties that Americans currently enjoy were actually developed in Europe.










So we're extending to the whole continent and including naturally growing ingredients now? I can't imagine the Belgians or Swiss being too impressed by the claim that Chocolate is an American food based on these criteria BUT ok. I'll claim on the behalf of the Brits all the French, Italian and Spanish cuisine as it's on the same continent so I think they win now. Oh yeah and burgers are from the Middle East as that's where cattle was first domesticated and fried chicken and baby back slow cooked ribs are from Asia by the same criteria.
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Reply #43 posted 06/08/14 3:35pm

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kpowers said:

I know the UK is not known for their food, but what dishes are good in the UK? I always hear about Yorkshier pudding, any good? How is the beer there?

America may win the food stakes, but American beer doesn't even come close to British beer...the real ales, porters, stouts, etc here in Britain are superb. Most American beer that I've encountered is mass-produced fizz in comparison...

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Reply #44 posted 06/08/14 11:44pm

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DaveT said:



kpowers said:


I know the UK is not known for their food, but what dishes are good in the UK? I always hear about Yorkshier pudding, any good? How is the beer there?




America may win the food stakes, but American beer doesn't even come close to British beer...the real ales, porters, stouts, etc here in Britain are superb. Most American beer that I've encountered is mass-produced fizz in comparison...




Actually, Bud et al aside, I was very impressed by the range and quality of the pale ales on offer. But if we're talking beer we're only ever going to debate 2nd place as Belgium is so far ahead of the rest of the world it should be considered a different drink.
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Reply #45 posted 06/09/14 12:02pm

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lust said:

DaveT said:

America may win the food stakes, but American beer doesn't even come close to British beer...the real ales, porters, stouts, etc here in Britain are superb. Most American beer that I've encountered is mass-produced fizz in comparison...

Actually, Bud et al aside, I was very impressed by the range and quality of the pale ales on offer. But if we're talking beer we're only ever going to debate 2nd place as Belgium is so far ahead of the rest of the world it should be considered a different drink.

Ah, Belgium! ... a great country with beer to die for!! I've done Brussels and Bruges a few times and the range of beers is superb!!

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Reply #46 posted 06/09/14 1:12pm

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PurpleJedi said:



KidaDynamite said:


NY style pizza! I don't know if this counts but it's still.... drool




DAMN RIGHT it does! nod flag foodnow


Ain't nothing like a NY pizza, and I was just up there a couple of weeks ago, to visit my sister and niece.
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Reply #47 posted 06/09/14 1:17pm

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morningsong said:[quote]

10 Foods America Gave to the World


Avocado


Avocado

Chili Pepper




Chocolate





I mean really. Contest over.



Corn





The early English settlers called the Native tribe's staple crop "Indian grain," then "Indian corn" which was later shortened to just "corn." Corn was vital in the survival of the first European settlers, as it produces much more grain from an acre of land than any other crop, and can be eaten fresh and stored for long periods dry.




Papaya





Peanut







Pineapple





Potato




Since this will raise eyebrows


This starchy tuber's origins are traced back to the prehistoric mountains of Argentina. It eventually migrated up through all the Americas and was eventually taken back to Europe where it found many homes, Ireland being the most famous. While there were originally only a handful of varieties cultivated, today there are over 5,000 varieties. Interestingly, the commercial varieties that Americans currently enjoy were actually developed in Europe.







....and they gave the world fast food, too razz
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Reply #48 posted 06/09/14 1:59pm

morningsong

I had some wonderful fish & chips this weekend. Malted up everything real good.

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Reply #49 posted 06/09/14 3:38pm

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Beautifulstarr123 said:

PurpleJedi said:


DAMN RIGHT it does! nod flag foodnow

Ain't nothing like a NY pizza, and I was just up there a couple of weeks ago, to visit my sister and niece.

I had a nice pizza in Napoli once. Not sure if it's as good as NYC though! lol

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Reply #50 posted 06/09/14 3:54pm

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lust said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:

PurpleJedi said: Ain't nothing like a NY pizza, and I was just up there a couple of weeks ago, to visit my sister and niece.

I had a nice pizza in Napoli once. Not sure if it's as good as NYC though! lol

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Reply #51 posted 06/09/14 3:56pm

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morningsong said:

I had some wonderful fish & chips this weekend. Malted up everything real good.

Sounds yummy drool3

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Reply #52 posted 06/09/14 10:53pm

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I don't think either country is going to claim that prize.

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