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Gunsnhalen

Why Men Aren't Men Anymore?

http://elitedaily.com/life/culture/why-men-arent-really-men-anymore/



There was once a time when men used to be real men. When they dressed with style, when they had a certain honor code they followed that involved treating not only their elders and each other with respect, but women alike. Unfortunately, those days are far- gone — a thing of the past. What we have now is… to be quite honest, I’m not sure.

There are of course certain men out there who still have their affairs in order, but we are few in number. What people are most often subject to is the company of boys who are refusing to grow up and man up — boys who prefer to play with their toys than to do their part in bettering society, the human race and the world as a whole. These poor excuses for men have the bodies of adults and the mentalities, as well as the social outlook of toddlers. Horny toddlers, but toddlers nonetheless.

It’s all about character — or in this case, the lack of character. Something has been happening during this era dubbed the “information age.” Social media platforms have taken away the need to interact face to face, taking away the need for actual interaction. This is great in many regards: you can now keep in touch with friends and family all over the world from a handheld device.

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However, much of the interpersonal confrontations are now also taking place online. People no longer feel that they have a need to meet in person to discuss their differences; they can now troll each other online. People are using the Internet as a shield, hiding behind IP addresses in order to speak their minds. The Internet acts like beer-muscles. It makes you believe that you are stronger than you actually are, making you more aggressive. There is nothing wrong with being aggressive when circumstances require it.

Personally, when my fight or flight response mechanism kicks in, I always go with fight. It’s not by choice; it’s just the way that I am wired. Online, people have no need to run away because they are already in hiding — so they always choose to “fight.” Although the fighting they do is just about as significant as the fighting I do when I play Call of Duty.

The same interaction from beneath cover can be seen when we look at the intercommunication between men and women. It is no secret that both men and women alike have sexual urges. Men, however, feel the need to get off more often than most women. So instead of having to spend the time to meet a real woman and have actual sexual intercourse, they watch porn.

Instead of going out into the real world and meeting women, they stalk women on Instagram. People now date online as well. It’s much easier to talk to a woman online than it is in person—or rather, it’s not that it’s easier. Both are just as easy, but for some reason, men now prefer to hide their faces behind their monitors. (Every time I use the term ‘men’ in such context I quiver) It’s out of fear and laziness. Men have become lazy pussies. I don’t even want to use the word pussy because it brings to mind women, who nowadays have much more character than men.

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Generation-Y is the instant gratification generation. We want what we want right at the moment we figure out that we want it. We are willingly giving up one of the most important things in life: the waiting period. Having to wait and having to deal with our urges and wants without instantly having them satisfied is what builds character and is what we are now lacking in this fast-paced age.

If we want food, we order it online and have it delivered. If we want to listen to our favorite song, we find it on YouTube, iTunes or Spotify. If we want to watch a movie, we either buy it on demand or stream it online. If we want sex, we masturbate. If we want to have a good time, we do drugs. We have this false belief that doing things faster will give us a life more fulfilled — that it will lead to us being happier. But that isn’t the case. Most of us aren’t happier. We do more, but we experience less. We are never in the moment because we are always considering what we will be doing next in order to not become bored.

Character is most often built during those moments between activities, during moments of solitude and reflection. Men no longer feel the need to pause and reflect because the options for whatever it is they want are only a click away. The options are endless and therefore we never truly experience disappointment.

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We never really feel that we are missing out on something because we no longer give things much importance. Jackie never got back to your text message? I’m sure you have several other women in your contacts that you’d equally like to f*ck — once. Then you’ll get bored and move on to the next one. Men treat women like interchangeable commodities. I do believe that most men still hope to one day fall in love and settle down. But none of them will unless they change their way of thinking and living.

Being focused on self-satisfaction will lead to nothing but broken relationships. Real men are not selfish. Real men are just as concerned for the feelings, needs and minds of women as they are for their own — not just women’s bodies and their sexual usefulness. Real men have a well-defined code of ethics and respect that they follow.

How can anyone call himself a man if the last time he had to confront another man — whether it be over a social incident or for business purposes — was before he hit puberty? If you don’t have the twiddle-diddles to approach a woman at a bar in person and have a proper, intellectual conversation, making the woman feel respected and comfortable, then move over for the real men.

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It’s awful because women are becoming accustomed to such boys and believing that these pansies are all that is left of our sex. Some great women are settling for these fools and then finding that they themselves have no choice but to wear the pants in the family because their “man” is PMSing. All I can hope for is that the law of evolution will see the world rid of these weaklings, these characterless, hopeless pseudo-men.

Ladies… real men do exist; there aren’t many of us, but we’re survivors and will be around for a while. Come find us.

[Edited 11/17/13 12:07pm]

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Reply #1 posted 11/17/13 12:07pm

Gunsnhalen

I really hate bullshit articles like this. And just the general whining of ''my generation was better'' So because men don't dress in suits and act like the characters in Mad Men they are not ''real men'' People constantly saying so and so of this generation are lazy, incompetent, and moral-less.
And every generation before now had men that weren't? right i believe that brah. When were men ''true men'' ? in the 50's? when women had to just brush it off when infidelity or abuse happened? oh but by the good grace of life! they had suits, were suave, and made conversation. So i guess you could look past you know the cheating, beating, asshole aspect.

And for fucks sake... masturbation is not horrible. Some people act like it's a sin punishable by death. Isn't that better than going out to a weird EYES WIDE SHUT style Masonic orgy... unprotected, UN-filtered, and just plain weird. You're telling me only men do this? yes i believe no woman in the entire world is about self-satisfaction. And a guy who masturbates is totally in the long haul for himself! brilliant observation.

I know... that we don't live in a Game Of Thrones world. Where men go off to war with sowrds, kill a bunch of people, wrestle dragon and bitches while take a piss, and have their junk cut off but can still lift boulders. But... bare with me here. I think a lot of guys this generation are quote on quote men enough for other reasons.

Dressing in fancy suits, getting in fights, being suave with the ladies at a hipster fusion jazz bar, and confronting people about apples they stole etc. Is not all it takes to be man... and hopefully these ''old generation was better'' people can let this generation grow... and let them be their own people. We don't have to be reminded of how a person was in the 30', 70', or 80's. We are all unique individuals and operate in our own space and time.

Now, lets all be friends. Be merry, me men, be woman, masturbate, and have a happy life.

Much love and water.

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Reply #2 posted 11/17/13 12:30pm

JoeTyler

a MAN is the male sex of the human being genre, that means he has a dick and two balls

no more and no less, everything else is superficial or redundant, and his own damn business

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Reply #3 posted 11/17/13 1:12pm

morningsong

Yeah, I was kind of thinking along those lines too reading the article. That time had its own share of suffering, even though it did have its own charms.




Hey if he's better at ironing than she is then he should do the ironing nobody needs to dictate how that should roll, by the same token if she wants to stay home and run pta functions then nobody on the outside need interfere.

Sex well that's folks personal business everybody don't require the same thing.
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Reply #4 posted 11/17/13 1:17pm

dJJ

Gunsnhalen said:

http://elitedaily.com/life/culture/why-men-arent-really-men-anymore/



There was once a time when men used to be real men.

The definition have changed every generation, for about millions years, since existance. There is no such thing as a real man. This is a meaningless sentence.

When they dressed with style, when they had a certain honor code they followed that involved treating not only their elders and each other with respect, but women alike. Unfortunately, those days are far- gone — a thing of the past.

Those days never existed. Man ruled the world and dominated women in every way they could. It's only since the last century that women have been protected by law, in some contries. Women still need to be protected against the violence of men, so don't talk about how good men were to their family, please. First read up on some history.

What we have now is… to be quite honest, I’m not sure.

There are of course certain men out there who still have their affairs in order, but we are few in number.

Where does that come from? Is there a research or trends that back up this impression?

What people are most often subject to is the company of boys who are refusing to grow up and man up — boys who prefer to play with their toys than to do their part in bettering society, the human race and the world as a whole.

Why do you think this claim is legitimate?

These poor excuses for men have the bodies of adults and the mentalities, as well as the social outlook of toddlers. Horny toddlers, but toddlers nonetheless.

It’s all about character — or in this case, the lack of character.


Again, what are you talking about? Why toddlers? What is that lack of character?

Something has been happening during this era dubbed the “information age.” Social media platforms have taken away the need to interact face to face, taking away the need for actual interaction.

Digital contact is valued as emotional as face-to-face contact. If anything, it connects people who otherwise would not have contact due to geographical or other limits.


This is great in many regards: you can now keep in touch with friends and family all over the world from a handheld device.

Yes.

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However, much of the interpersonal confrontations are now also taking place online. People no longer feel that they have a need to meet in person to discuss their differences; they can now troll each other online.

Yes, some people troll. But how do you know that most people are not intentionally trolling?I think they are just being themselves. Natural trolls. They are also socially challenged in face-to-face contact.


People are using the Internet as a shield, hiding behind IP addresses in order to speak their minds. The Internet acts like beer-muscles. It makes you believe that you are stronger than you actually are, making you more aggressive. There is nothing wrong with being aggressive when circumstances require it.


Yes, there is a lot of aggression both on the internet and in real life. And yes, some people are very aggressive, however, there are also a lot of great and positive people around. I don't think aggression is needed that much. Only in direct life threatening situations. And those are not very common.

Personally, when my fight or flight response mechanism kicks in, I always go with fight. It’s not by choice; it’s just the way that I am wired. Online, people have no need to run away because they are already in hiding — so they always choose to “fight.” Although the fighting they do is just about as significant as the fighting I do when I play Call of Duty.

There might be an even number of people who flight. You just don't notice, because they don't type an answer or reply and post nothing. So, you only notice the ones who do post and based on that selective bias, you adhere conclusions about everybody.

The same interaction from beneath cover can be seen when we look at the intercommunication between men and women. It is no secret that both men and women alike have sexual urges. Men, however, feel the need to get off more often than most women.

Absolute nonsense. Sexual desire has socially been aproved for men, but if women outed their sexual needs, they became social parias. Men have dominated the sex, and sex has evolved into gratifying male needs. Because sex is so gratifying for men, they desire it more. When sex would evolve in a manner that womens sex needs would also become important, the sexual drive of women would be as intense as men, if not more.

So instead of having to spend the time to meet a real woman and have actual sexual intercourse, they watch porn.

No. That is because men have dominated the working floor since it's existance. And the domain of sex. So, porn is a male business, not geared at all at the female market. If porn would be attractive for women, ladies would be as enthusiastic into porn as men are.

Instead of going out into the real world and meeting women, they stalk women on Instagram. People now date online as well. It’s much easier to talk to a woman online than it is in person—or rather, it’s not that it’s easier. Both are just as easy, but for some reason, men now prefer to hide their faces behind their monitors. (Every time I use the term ‘men’ in such context I quiver) It’s out of fear and laziness. Men have become lazy pussies. I don’t even want to use the word pussy because it brings to mind women, who nowadays have much more character than men.

tumblr_mhksc1TMNs1r83s39o1_500

Generation-Y is the instant gratification generation. We want what we want right at the moment we figure out that we want it. We are willingly giving up one of the most important things in life: the waiting period. Having to wait and having to deal with our urges and wants without instantly having them satisfied is what builds character and is what we are now lacking in this fast-paced age.

If we want food, we order it online and have it delivered. If we want to listen to our favorite song, we find it on YouTube, iTunes or Spotify. If we want to watch a movie, we either buy it on demand or stream it online. If we want sex, we masturbate. If we want to have a good time, we do drugs. We have this false belief that doing things faster will give us a life more fulfilled — that it will lead to us being happier. But that isn’t the case. Most of us aren’t happier. We do more, but we experience less. We are never in the moment because we are always considering what we will be doing next in order to not become bored.

Character is most often built during those moments between activities, during moments of solitude and reflection. Men no longer feel the need to pause and reflect because the options for whatever it is they want are only a click away. The options are endless and therefore we never truly experience disappointment.

tumblr_inline_mm4tpkARY11qz4rgp

We never really feel that we are missing out on something because we no longer give things much importance. Jackie never got back to your text message? I’m sure you have several other women in your contacts that you’d equally like to f*ck — once. Then you’ll get bored and move on to the next one. Men treat women like interchangeable commodities. I do believe that most men still hope to one day fall in love and settle down. But none of them will unless they change their way of thinking and living.

Being focused on self-satisfaction will lead to nothing but broken relationships. Real men are not selfish. Real men are just as concerned for the feelings, needs and minds of women as they are for their own — not just women’s bodies and their sexual usefulness. Real men have a well-defined code of ethics and respect that they follow.

How can anyone call himself a man if the last time he had to confront another man — whether it be over a social incident or for business purposes — was before he hit puberty? If you don’t have the twiddle-diddles to approach a woman at a bar in person and have a proper, intellectual conversation, making the woman feel respected and comfortable, then move over for the real men.

tumblr_ln5cxrjwFn1qh7487o1_r3_500

It’s awful because women are becoming accustomed to such boys and believing that these pansies are all that is left of our sex. Some great women are settling for these fools and then finding that they themselves have no choice but to wear the pants in the family because their “man” is PMSing. All I can hope for is that the law of evolution will see the world rid of these weaklings, these characterless, hopeless pseudo-men.

Ladies… real men do exist; there aren’t many of us, but we’re survivors and will be around for a while. Come find us.

[Edited 11/17/13 12:07pm]



Sorry, I just couldn't bother to read the whole article.

It's clearly written by a man, as I find no attempt to look at it from a female perspective.

And I don't think there is anything wrong with the young generation. I'm looking forward to what they will bring us.

If girls don't get raised as mothers to be, but as actual persons, great things can be expected.

And yes for girls and boys there is no reason to stay in a long relationship anymore. So, relationships, love and sex will change rapidly. I cheer that and wished I was born nowadays!!


I love men, and I hope that they can see how feminism frees them of the pressure to be a real man, and that men understand that feminism means that not only women are liberated from social pressure, but also men are liberated from the social pressures they have suffered from.


BTW, it's not the information technology that changed the relationship needs for men and women. It's birth control. Since women can decide about family planning themselves, they became slowly empowered.

And I hope that girls of the next generations don't feel obliged to breed, but know that they can also just have a great and fullfilling life without becoming a mother.

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Reply #5 posted 11/17/13 1:23pm

dJJ

Gunsnhalen said:

http://elitedaily.com/life/culture/why-men-arent-really-men-anymore/



There was once a time when men used to be real men. When they dressed with style, when they had a certain honor code they followed that involved treating not only their elders and each other with respect, but women alike. Unfortunately, those days are far- gone — a thing of the past. What we have now is… to be quite honest, I’m not sure.

There are of course certain men out there who still have their affairs in order, but we are few in number. What people are most often subject to is the company of boys who are refusing to grow up and man up — boys who prefer to play with their toys than to do their part in bettering society, the human race and the world as a whole. These poor excuses for men have the bodies of adults and the mentalities, as well as the social outlook of toddlers. Horny toddlers, but toddlers nonetheless.

It’s all about character — or in this case, the lack of character. Something has been happening during this era dubbed the “information age.” Social media platforms have taken away the need to interact face to face, taking away the need for actual interaction. This is great in many regards: you can now keep in touch with friends and family all over the world from a handheld device.

tumblr_mevrxaXSyx1qlo9hgo1_500

However, much of the interpersonal confrontations are now also taking place online. People no longer feel that they have a need to meet in person to discuss their differences; they can now troll each other online. People are using the Internet as a shield, hiding behind IP addresses in order to speak their minds. The Internet acts like beer-muscles. It makes you believe that you are stronger than you actually are, making you more aggressive. There is nothing wrong with being aggressive when circumstances require it.

Personally, when my fight or flight response mechanism kicks in, I always go with fight. It’s not by choice; it’s just the way that I am wired. Online, people have no need to run away because they are already in hiding — so they always choose to “fight.” Although the fighting they do is just about as significant as the fighting I do when I play Call of Duty.

The same interaction from beneath cover can be seen when we look at the intercommunication between men and women. It is no secret that both men and women alike have sexual urges. Men, however, feel the need to get off more often than most women. So instead of having to spend the time to meet a real woman and have actual sexual intercourse, they watch porn.

Instead of going out into the real world and meeting women, they stalk women on Instagram. People now date online as well. It’s much easier to talk to a woman online than it is in person—or rather, it’s not that it’s easier. Both are just as easy, but for some reason, men now prefer to hide their faces behind their monitors. (Every time I use the term ‘men’ in such context I quiver) It’s out of fear and laziness. Men have become lazy pussies. I don’t even want to use the word pussy because it brings to mind women, who nowadays have much more character than men.

tumblr_mhksc1TMNs1r83s39o1_500

Generation-Y is the instant gratification generation. We want what we want right at the moment we figure out that we want it. We are willingly giving up one of the most important things in life: the waiting period. Having to wait and having to deal with our urges and wants without instantly having them satisfied is what builds character and is what we are now lacking in this fast-paced age.

If we want food, we order it online and have it delivered. If we want to listen to our favorite song, we find it on YouTube, iTunes or Spotify. If we want to watch a movie, we either buy it on demand or stream it online. If we want sex, we masturbate. If we want to have a good time, we do drugs. We have this false belief that doing things faster will give us a life more fulfilled — that it will lead to us being happier. But that isn’t the case. Most of us aren’t happier. We do more, but we experience less. We are never in the moment because we are always considering what we will be doing next in order to not become bored.

Character is most often built during those moments between activities, during moments of solitude and reflection. Men no longer feel the need to pause and reflect because the options for whatever it is they want are only a click away. The options are endless and therefore we never truly experience disappointment.

tumblr_inline_mm4tpkARY11qz4rgp

We never really feel that we are missing out on something because we no longer give things much importance. Jackie never got back to your text message? I’m sure you have several other women in your contacts that you’d equally like to f*ck — once. Then you’ll get bored and move on to the next one. Men treat women like interchangeable commodities. I do believe that most men still hope to one day fall in love and settle down. But none of them will unless they change their way of thinking and living.

Being focused on self-satisfaction will lead to nothing but broken relationships. Real men are not selfish. Real men are just as concerned for the feelings, needs and minds of women as they are for their own — not just women’s bodies and their sexual usefulness. Real men have a well-defined code of ethics and respect that they follow.

How can anyone call himself a man if the last time he had to confront another man — whether it be over a social incident or for business purposes — was before he hit puberty? If you don’t have the twiddle-diddles to approach a woman at a bar in person and have a proper, intellectual conversation, making the woman feel respected and comfortable, then move over for the real men.

tumblr_ln5cxrjwFn1qh7487o1_r3_500

It’s awful because women are becoming accustomed to such boys and believing that these pansies are all that is left of our sex. Some great women are settling for these fools and then finding that they themselves have no choice but to wear the pants in the family because their “man” is PMSing. All I can hope for is that the law of evolution will see the world rid of these weaklings, these characterless, hopeless pseudo-men.

Ladies… real men do exist; there aren’t many of us, but we’re survivors and will be around for a while. Come find us.

[Edited 11/17/13 12:07pm]


Thanks for the offer, but girls like Miley Cyrus enjoy their life to the fullest.

If they fall in love or want to have an affair, they'll enjoy that. But they know that is not what defines them, a relationship is not their ultimate goal in life anymore.

The Miley Cyruses of this world can take care of themselves and will find out what makes them happy and what makes them feel fullfilled.

A decade ago, girls were pressed to think that a marriage and motherhood was the ultimate goal in their lives. They are wiser now. They found out that as far a a shared household and raising children is concerned, women draw the short end of the stick. They rather choose the other option, be happy without the drama of marriage.

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Reply #6 posted 11/17/13 1:24pm

dJJ

I recommend reading Brave New World.

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Reply #7 posted 11/17/13 3:27pm

Gunsnhalen

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I love all of you so much.... DJJ your comments are glorious biggrin

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Reply #8 posted 11/18/13 2:36am

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Gunsnhalen said:

http://elitedaily.com/life/culture/why-men-arent-really-men-anymore/




There was once a time when men used to be real men. When they dressed with style, when they had a certain honor code they followed that involved treating not only their elders and each other with respect, but women alike. Unfortunately, those days are far- gone — a thing of the past. What we have now is… to be quite honest, I’m not sure.


There are of course certain men out there who still have their affairs in order, but we are few in number. What people are most often subject to is the company of boys who are refusing to grow up and man up — boys who prefer to play with their toys than to do their part in bettering society, the human race and the world as a whole. These poor excuses for men have the bodies of adults and the mentalities, as well as the social outlook of toddlers. Horny toddlers, but toddlers nonetheless.


It’s all about character — or in this case, the lack of character. Something has been happening during this era dubbed the “information age.” Social media platforms have taken away the need to interact face to face, taking away the need for actual interaction. This is great in many regards: you can now keep in touch with friends and family all over the world from a handheld device.



tumblr_mevrxaXSyx1qlo9hgo1_500

However, much of the interpersonal confrontations are now also taking place online. People no longer feel that they have a need to meet in person to discuss their differences; they can now troll each other online. People are using the Internet as a shield, hiding behind IP addresses in order to speak their minds. The Internet acts like beer-muscles. It makes you believe that you are stronger than you actually are, making you more aggressive. There is nothing wrong with being aggressive when circumstances require it.


Personally, when my fight or flight response mechanism kicks in, I always go with fight. It’s not by choice; it’s just the way that I am wired. Online, people have no need to run away because they are already in hiding — so they always choose to “fight.” Although the fighting they do is just about as significant as the fighting I do when I play Call of Duty.


The same interaction from beneath cover can be seen when we look at the intercommunication between men and women. It is no secret that both men and women alike have sexual urges. Men, however, feel the need to get off more often than most women. So instead of having to spend the time to meet a real woman and have actual sexual intercourse, they watch porn.


Instead of going out into the real world and meeting women, they stalk women on Instagram. People now date online as well. It’s much easier to talk to a woman online than it is in person—or rather, it’s not that it’s easier. Both are just as easy, but for some reason, men now prefer to hide their faces behind their monitors. (Every time I use the term ‘men’ in such context I quiver) It’s out of fear and laziness. Men have become lazy pussies. I don’t even want to use the word pussy because it brings to mind women, who nowadays have much more character than men.



tumblr_mhksc1TMNs1r83s39o1_500

Generation-Y is the instant gratification generation. We want what we want right at the moment we figure out that we want it. We are willingly giving up one of the most important things in life: the waiting period. Having to wait and having to deal with our urges and wants without instantly having them satisfied is what builds character and is what we are now lacking in this fast-paced age.


If we want food, we order it online and have it delivered. If we want to listen to our favorite song, we find it on YouTube, iTunes or Spotify. If we want to watch a movie, we either buy it on demand or stream it online. If we want sex, we masturbate. If we want to have a good time, we do drugs. We have this false belief that doing things faster will give us a life more fulfilled — that it will lead to us being happier. But that isn’t the case. Most of us aren’t happier. We do more, but we experience less. We are never in the moment because we are always considering what we will be doing next in order to not become bored.


Character is most often built during those moments between activities, during moments of solitude and reflection. Men no longer feel the need to pause and reflect because the options for whatever it is they want are only a click away. The options are endless and therefore we never truly experience disappointment.



tumblr_inline_mm4tpkARY11qz4rgp

We never really feel that we are missing out on something because we no longer give things much importance. Jackie never got back to your text message? I’m sure you have several other women in your contacts that you’d equally like to f*ck — once. Then you’ll get bored and move on to the next one. Men treat women like interchangeable commodities. I do believe that most men still hope to one day fall in love and settle down. But none of them will unless they change their way of thinking and living.


Being focused on self-satisfaction will lead to nothing but broken relationships. Real men are not selfish. Real men are just as concerned for the feelings, needs and minds of women as they are for their own — not just women’s bodies and their sexual usefulness. Real men have a well-defined code of ethics and respect that they follow.


How can anyone call himself a man if the last time he had to confront another man — whether it be over a social incident or for business purposes — was before he hit puberty? If you don’t have the twiddle-diddles to approach a woman at a bar in person and have a proper, intellectual conversation, making the woman feel respected and comfortable, then move over for the real men.



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It’s awful because women are becoming accustomed to such boys and believing that these pansies are all that is left of our sex. Some great women are settling for these fools and then finding that they themselves have no choice but to wear the pants in the family because their “man” is PMSing. All I can hope for is that the law of evolution will see the world rid of these weaklings, these characterless, hopeless pseudo-men.


Ladies… real men do exist; there aren’t many of us, but we’re survivors and will be around for a while. Come find us.


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I think it makes some very good points.
Masculinity is generally often frowned upon.
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I've got a pretty firm grip on the obvious!
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Reply #9 posted 11/18/13 3:09am

Dave1992

Bullshit article.

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Reply #10 posted 11/18/13 7:51am

dJJ

Rightly said:

Gunsnhalen said:

http://elitedaily.com/life/culture/why-men-arent-really-men-anymore/


I think it makes some very good points. Masculinity is generally often frowned upon.



No, there really is nothing wrong with masculinity. A lot of people apreciate it very much.


However, it's not an obligatory identity for men anymore. Before there was a strict social pressure for men to be all masculine, nowadays one can choose.

And I think that is progress. Men can be who they are, not who society dictates how a real man has to be.

And if he wants to stay immature and not have a family and no kids, that is fine. Men and women don't need to adher to one stereotypical lifestyle anymore.

It's wonderful that there are masculine men.

And likewise wonderful that there are men who aren't.

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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Reply #11 posted 11/20/13 9:32pm

SeventeenDayze

I understand why this was written. I think it would have been better off just sticking to the topic of technology changing relationships as opposed to putting everything on men. I have pretty much given up that I will find a decent guy and I'm pretty sure I have no desire for marriage and kids. I don't know if I am capable of feeling loved because I am always in turmoil/uncertain if I am loved by the ones who I am supposed to be closest with. I think this makes a huge impact on how people perceive themselves in relationships as they grow and step out on their own. If you doubt love from others and don't feel it, then how are you equipped to be loving towards others in the long haul?

I think this article oversimplifies the argument that there are men who aren't men anymore but if we take it a step further, we can see that friendships, family, etc. are largely based on convenience. Most people are only comfortable around those whom pose no threat to their sense of self, be it real or imagined. I have doubts in my mind about whether or not my own mother truly loves me. So, how the hell am I equipped to recognize love, feel love and reciprocate beyond the superficial, in the long run? Maybe the article should addres those types of things as well instead of putting all of this on technology and men....

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Reply #12 posted 11/21/13 2:10am

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They aren't men anymore because they wax and shave off all their body and pubic hair and look like little bitchboys. I guess next they'll start dressing in schoolboy uniform shorts with knee-socks and skip down the road while licking on a big ole swirly colored lollipop. evillol

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Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #13 posted 11/21/13 3:53am

Dave1992

vainandy said:

They aren't men anymore because they wax and shave off all their body and pubic hair and look like little bitchboys. I guess next they'll start dressing in schoolboy uniform shorts with knee-socks and skip down the road while licking on a big ole swirly colored lollipop. evillol

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hmmm

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Reply #14 posted 11/21/13 4:21pm

dJJ

vainandy said:

They aren't men anymore because they wax and shave off all their body and pubic hair and look like little bitchboys. I guess next they'll start dressing in schoolboy uniform shorts with knee-socks and skip down the road while licking on a big ole swirly colored lollipop. evillol

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Waxing hurts. It's not for the fainthearted men.

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Reply #15 posted 11/21/13 5:12pm

Rococo

Okay fine, if men aren't men then what are they? Why is it that anything that is slighlty feminine considered bad? Misogyny is not dead people. Gender is made up, we must transcend and love our fellow humans. We shoudn't still be using concepts used in the Victorian Period. EVOLVE

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Reply #16 posted 11/21/13 5:13pm

dJJ

Rococo said:

Okay fine, if men aren't men then what are they? Why is it that anything that is slighlty feminine considered bad? Misogyny is not dead people. Gender is made up, we must transcend and love our fellow humans. We shoudn't still be using concepts used in the Victorian Period. EVOLVE



yeahthat

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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Reply #17 posted 11/21/13 5:16pm

Rococo

My thing is people act the way the society has told them too. A guy will act all butch in order to fulfill a certain stereotype imposed upon them. Hyper Masculinity while hot, is just an illusion. Same goes forFemininity. Some might argue with me and thats fine. I don't sexualize people based on dumb norms, I love people for what they are.

I guess i'm bi-gender.

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Reply #18 posted 11/23/13 6:23am

SweeTeaII

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a MAN is the male sex of the human being genre, that means he has a dick and two balls



no more and no less, everything else is superficial or redundant, and his own damn business





So there u have it! A man is whateva! make him what u want cuz he has no definition. I have created my illusion in my wanderings...just waiting for him to materialize.
"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so". Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #19 posted 11/23/13 8:15am

uPtoWnNY

Someone explain to me why choosing to stay single is 'immature'?

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Reply #20 posted 11/23/13 8:20am

Timmy84

uPtoWnNY said:

Someone explain to me why choosing to stay single is 'immature'?

Yeah this article sounds like a typical "white knight"/captain save a ho type.

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Reply #21 posted 11/23/13 8:52am

RodeoSchro

There are more definitions of what a "man" is than can fit on the Internet.
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Reply #22 posted 11/23/13 6:39pm

TD3

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Timmy84 said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Someone explain to me why choosing to stay single is immature?

Yeah this article sounds like a typical "white knight"/captain save a ho type.

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Well it takes a "ho" know a "ho"... I think that's part of the problem. I don't have an issue with anyone being "horish" per say... as long as you are honest, remain childless, practice safe sex, and stay single. wink

I'm not sure if Mr. Hudson (author of the article) had a pending deadline and/or came to his point of view after watching Ocean's Eleven (1960)l. Hudson could have written a more thought provoking article if he'd examine, how the world economy has redefined masculinity for many man. When you have young men with time on their hands with nothing to do, you have problems. One of those problems is, many of them never move on to adulthood. Hudson article, drivel.

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