FrenchGuy said:

Some tips :

0) Nobody HAS to do it. Do it only if you want. and don't force a woman to accept. Though many claim to enjoy it, the majority of women have confidence issues ... They ask themselves : is it clean enough? is it too hairy (personnally i dont mind the hair )? does it smell? do I have an "ugly" vagina? You have to put her in th right mood. Let her know you want to do it beacuse YOU like it and wuld like to give her some extra pleasure, compliment her on her body, then her thighs, her ass. She really needs to feel beautiful and at ease!

1) Don't go straight to the pussy. You're not a hungry lion jumping on a piece of meat. as you complimented her boday, some specific body parts, stars kissing her all over her body... slow. step by step... The neck, the upper back, the breast, the belly, the bootay, the thighs, the inner thighs and...

2) The clitoris is not the only erogen area. actually, licking it insistantly and continuously can get monotonous and even irritating . You can lick the vagina's lips up and down, left and right, round and round.

3) Oral sex doesnt exclude some penetration, a vagina is not only for your penis, you can stick your tongue in, use your finger (just make sure your nails are not Dracula-like long or dirty). And don't just go in-and-out, you can work your tongue round and round too (yeah, just like they eat ice-creams in "eritic videos".

4) Rythm is a plus. The key of turning on with oral sex is being un predictable. You can eat the punany for 30 seconds or so, then lick the inner thighs, then go back to the vagina, slower, then faster, then slover, then just the clitoris or just the vagina. Don't do that robotic "lick-lick-lick" they do in porn movies. Those guys clealy don't enjoy it doing it.

5) Licking is not everything. suck the vagina lips, pinch them between you lips (DONT USE YOUR TEETH!), you can even blow on it a little, to "cool things down" when it get to steamy (and then of course, you go back to it !

Hope this helps y'all

that seems like an awful lot of work just to try and get a blowjob

FrenchGuy said:

Some tips :

0) Nobody HAS to do it. Do it only if you want. and don't force a woman to accept. Though many claim to enjoy it, the majority of women have confidence issues ... They ask themselves : is it clean enough? is it too hairy (personnally i dont mind the hair )? does it smell? do I have an "ugly" vagina? You have to put her in th right mood. Let her know you want to do it beacuse YOU like it and wuld like to give her some extra pleasure, compliment her on her body, then her thighs, her ass. She really needs to feel beautiful and at ease!

1) Don't go straight to the pussy. You're not a hungry lion jumping on a piece of meat. as you complimented her boday, some specific body parts, stars kissing her all over her body... slow. step by step... The neck, the upper back, the breast, the belly, the bootay, the thighs, the inner thighs and...

2) The clitoris is not the only erogen area. actually, licking it insistantly and continuously can get monotonous and even irritating . You can lick the vagina's lips up and down, left and right, round and round.

3) Oral sex doesnt exclude some penetration, a vagina is not only for your penis, you can stick your tongue in, use your finger (just make sure your nails are not Dracula-like long or dirty). And don't just go in-and-out, you can work your tongue round and round too (yeah, just like they eat ice-creams in "eritic videos".

4) Rythm is a plus. The key of turning on with oral sex is being un predictable. You can eat the punany for 30 seconds or so, then lick the inner thighs, then go back to the vagina, slower, then faster, then slover, then just the clitoris or just the vagina. Don't do that robotic "lick-lick-lick" they do in porn movies. Those guys clealy don't enjoy it doing it.

5) Licking is not everything. suck the vagina lips, pinch them between you lips (DONT USE YOUR TEETH!), you can even blow on it a little, to "cool things down" when it get to steamy (and then of course, you go back to it !

Hope this helps y'all

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Holy Smokes!

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Women obsess about all that? I personally don't feel that it's a guy's responsibility to make a woman feel beautiful and at ease. Yes, it's nice if a man makes you feel beautiful but ONLY if he wants to do that (something from his heart) and not because the woman is super needy & insecure. That's enough to drive a man putting all that on him. It's wonderful if that flows naturally from a guy's heart and something he wants to do but it's unfair to make him responsible for taking care of your own neediness & insecurities.

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Honestly, let's think about this rationally. How many guys are thinking, is my dick clean enough? Too hairy? Does it smell? Do I have an ugly dick? I know, it sounds crazy and ya'll are prolly like reading that, but it should sound equally crazy & hilarious coming from a woman. No?

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It would be a turnoff for me (as a woman) if a guy sat around thinking that way. I'm sure men appreciate women who can just be at ease with themselves and ENJOY just as much as women enjoy men who are confident & at ease with themselves.

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Just clean your parts real good, keep it trim and ENJOY! doesn't have to be so complicated.

Tempest said:

MoBetterBliss said:

Cloudbuster said:

FrenchGuy said:

Tempest said:

Hm maybe stating the "majority" of women feel insecure about that way is a little exaggerated. Well, I have many friends, male and female, who l talk freely about sex with, and this 0) "tip" comes from exchanging with them. - first of all, as you said, most men (besides the young, the first-timers and those with little experience) are less concerned by their physical features (I mean sex parts) than women. Men in general have more sexual partners than women and their sexual drive would sometimes let them fuck anything that simply means they have a "been-there-done-that-mentally" once they get naked with women and they just want to have the "job done" (ejaculate lol), no matter what their penis or body looks like. (This brings another answer to why men in general don't take time for foreplay or simply avoid it). Women on the other end have less partners in general and even some enjoy casual sex, there are the minority. Having sex, giving your body to a man is "opening up" your intimacy, your feminity and you need that moment to be "special", done right, if not perfectly. Women needs more time to be turned on, to reach orgasm ... Mother Nature made us different physically and emotionally, I believe that, no matter what feminists have been telling me. So yeah, based on discussions, observations, most women needs to be reassured about their body, their beauty, than men (and not only on a sexially level), especially at the beginning of a relationship, first dates, even casual sex. This is less true for married women (you know and trust each other well enough) or those who have had partners in the past (older women with experience, divorced, nymphos ) ... Still, tips 1) to 5) works for everybody!

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Maybe it's the women you date that need to be reassured? That could be. Obviously, you haven't dated or been with every woman in the world. Right?

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I've never dated ANYONE who told me that I'm beautiful all the time or reassured me constantly. I can promise you that. Not even on first dates or when I was a teen. And, I didn't expect it from guys either (neither do my women friends). I figure, if the guy is with me and likes hanging with me, he must find me attractive. Therefore, it isn't necessary for him to tell me that every 5 minutes. Just common sense. He doesn't need to reassure me all the time. I guess my focus isn't always on outward appearance (or insecurities) as it seems to be with the women you date.

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I've never had a one night stand or casual sex. It's always been with guys that I'm committed too. However, I would venture to guess that if women are out having one night stands and casual sex, then they don't give a darn what their vagina smells like or if it's ugly. They just wanna get laid. Also, if guys are the only ones giving themselves constantly & freely, then who are the guys having sex with? Prostitutes only? Heck, I knew some ladies in their early 20s (back in the day) who had already been with over 30 guys. What's going on today with teenagers pales in comparison.

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There are plenty of "easy" women out there that could give a rat's butt what their vaginas look like or how it smells. In addition, lots of them are sending out nude photos of themselves and their parts to guys on the internet. Many young teens are doing this! Teen girls aren't sitting around waiting for their prince charming who will tell them how beautiful they are, that their vagina is lovely and smells like rose. And, they aren't older women, experienced, divorced. Nymphos yes! Also, they aren't waiting for it to be "special" and "perfect". They just wanna get LAID! I'm guessing it's been a LONG time since you were a teenager.

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Btw, I'm not a feminist. I'm probably the farthest thing from a feminist that ever existed. HONEST! However, I am a realist and a woman. I think your idea of how most women think is quixotic rather than realistic. IMO, it seems that you've placed women (in general) in some kind of idealistic fantasy or on a make believe pedestal that doesn't exist.

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What a complete load of bullshit.

I'd like to mention one more thing if I may. . . .

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Some women like to be (or demand to be) WORSHIPPED! It's a SPIRITUAL dysfunction with some. Let's be brutally honest here & come right out and call it what it is. . . . A JEZEBEL SPIRIT. Therefore, they need to have guys telling them how wonderful they are, how beautiful they are, etc. all the time. They aren't happy unless the man is bowing down, kissing their feet & fawning over them night & day (worshipping them constantly). It has nothing to do with insecurities. It's a sick desire for power & control.

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Just thought I'd mention it.

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Tempest said:

I'd like to mention one more thing if I may. . . .

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Some women like to be (or demand to be) WORSHIPPED! It's a SPIRITUAL dysfunction with some. Let's be brutally honest here & come right out and call it what it is. . . . A JEZEBEL SPIRIT. Therefore, they need to have guys telling them how wonderful they are, how beautiful they are, etc. all the time. They aren't happy unless the man is bowing down, kissing their feet & fawning over them night & day (worshipping them constantly). It has nothing to do with insecurities. It's a sick desire for power & control.

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Just thought I'd mention it.

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Well maybe it's a cultural thing, maybe women and men react and inter-act differently in the US (or wherever you are ) compared to France. Or l just tend to attract (as frieds, date, or girlfriends) only the insecured ones ... Then the problem it's probably me !

It's not really about worshipping or foot-kissing ( l know some though ), l'm not saying they expect the man to build a shrine and burn incense for them 24/24 . . Just from time to time, let her know she's special and she's the one and she's beautiful. If you read me agin carefully, l wrote "women... / men... IN GENERAL" so l certainly don't think this 'theories' works for every single human being with a penis or a vagina on earth.

Maybe you belong to the confident ones, those who don't need to be reassured. That's Ok, l just want to tell my conclusion regarding my experience with females, friends and others. As L stated earlier, it my be a cultural thing, or a generation thing or education, etc etc...

PS : l didn't "accuse" you of being a feminist, you seem actually quite open minded to discuss about it without flaming me . . . l was referring to "hardcore" feminists who deny the emotional and sxual differences between both sexes

Well regarding my opinion on feminism, this deserves a whole new thread (and no, l don't idolize men or view them as fantasmatic fragile creatures from Wonderland, hell naw! ). My point is, despite all the "independent women", "women are men like the others" concepts, though many have embraced this ideology, when you dig a little... well it's none of that!

ON casual sex : it's ok if the woman prepared herself for that, but what if it's about having going home with a guy you picked up in a night club? Sure you won't say no to some penis, but would you let him go down? the sweat, and all that? (I'm 28 old by the way)

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Stymie said:

Cloudbuster said:

Damn, l missed the org... Especially my nasty dirty minded Orgers

PS : By the way... this is the 69th post

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The method I use that works the best is:

Make sure everything is clean first, including your hands and fingers. Use long, slow strokes with consistent pressure. Also, gently run your finger over it and make it smooth...I've even used the rounded side of a small spoon on it afterwards. And it's gonna be wet for awhile when you're done, so give it some time before you do anything else.

Or is that how I caulk the tile in my bathroom?

Byron said:

The method I use that works the best is:

Make sure everything is clean first, including your hands and fingers. Use long, slow strokes with consistent pressure. Also, gently run your finger over it and make it smooth...I've even used the rounded side of a small spoon on it afterwards. And it's gonna be wet for awhile when you're done, so give it some time before you do anything else.

Or is that how I caulk the tile in my bathroom?

interesting technique ...

Another one : Having an ice cube in your mouth, and alternate using your lips (hot) and tongue (cold) ...

Oh, and for the more adventurous, an annilingus can be tried

FrenchGuy said:

Tempest said:

I'd like to mention one more thing if I may. . . .

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Some women like to be (or demand to be) WORSHIPPED! It's a SPIRITUAL dysfunction with some. Let's be brutally honest here & come right out and call it what it is. . . . A JEZEBEL SPIRIT. Therefore, they need to have guys telling them how wonderful they are, how beautiful they are, etc. all the time. They aren't happy unless the man is bowing down, kissing their feet & fawning over them night & day (worshipping them constantly). It has nothing to do with insecurities. It's a sick desire for power & control.

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Just thought I'd mention it.

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Well maybe it's a cultural thing, maybe women and men react and inter-act differently in the US (or wherever you are ) compared to France. Or l just tend to attract (as frieds, date, or girlfriends) only the insecured ones ... Then the problem it's probably me !

It's not really about worshipping or foot-kissing ( l know some though ), l'm not saying they expect the man to build a shrine and burn incense for them 24/24 . . Just from time to time, let her know she's special and she's the one and she's beautiful. If you read me agin carefully, l wrote "women... / men... IN GENERAL" so l certainly don't think this 'theories' works for every single human being with a penis or a vagina on earth.

Maybe you belong to the confident ones, those who don't need to be reassured. That's Ok, l just want to tell my conclusion regarding my experience with females, friends and others. As L stated earlier, it my be a cultural thing, or a generation thing or education, etc etc...

PS : l didn't "accuse" you of being a feminist, you seem actually quite open minded to discuss about it without flaming me . . . l was referring to "hardcore" feminists who deny the emotional and sxual differences between both sexes

Well regarding my opinion on feminism, this deserves a whole new thread (and no, l don't idolize men or view them as fantasmatic fragile creatures from Wonderland, hell naw! ). My point is, despite all the "independent women", "women are men like the others" concepts, though many have embraced this ideology, when you dig a little... well it's none of that!

ON casual sex : it's ok if the woman prepared herself for that, but what if it's about having going home with a guy you picked up in a night club? Sure you won't say no to some penis, but would you let him go down? the sweat, and all that? (I'm 28 old by the way)

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It's all well and good to tell your special girl she's beautiful and all that. That's wonderful & very sweet! Just don't be controlled or manipulated by women and their supposed "need" to be reassured all the time. When you find your really special lady, hopefully, both of you will mutually encourage one another and let it happen naturally rather than trying to meet someone's expectations. It's more fun to just be you!

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Regarding casual sex, as I mentioned previously, I've never had casual sex or a one night stand so I can't even comment on that. Sex for me is much more than just a physical act so I would never put myself in that situation. I can't just give myself to a stranger or someone I barely know. So, the nightclub scenario has never (and would never) happen in my life. Therefore, I don't need to worry about sweaty penises or my vagina smelling like a dead carp.

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FrenchGuy said:

Byron said:

The method I use that works the best is:

Make sure everything is clean first, including your hands and fingers. Use long, slow strokes with consistent pressure. Also, gently run your finger over it and make it smooth...I've even used the rounded side of a small spoon on it afterwards. And it's gonna be wet for awhile when you're done, so give it some time before you do anything else.

Or is that how I caulk the tile in my bathroom?

interesting technique ...

Another one : Having an ice cube in your mouth, and alternate using your lips (hot) and tongue (cold) ...

Oh, and for the more adventurous, an annilingus can be tried

What the hell kind of tiles are you caulking?

No! It's real easy.A baby can do it.

FrenchGuy said:

MoBetterBliss said:

that seems like an awful lot of work just to try and get a blowjob

I know, right? But hey, after some time and practice it becomes easy and automatic... PS : mind you, I don't like blowjobs that much ! (Receiving... Never gave )

good one

Tempest said:

I'd like to mention one more thing if I may. . . .

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Some women like to be (or demand to be) WORSHIPPED! It's a SPIRITUAL dysfunction with some. Let's be brutally honest here & come right out and call it what it is. . . . A JEZEBEL SPIRIT. Therefore, they need to have guys telling them how wonderful they are, how beautiful they are, etc. all the time. They aren't happy unless the man is bowing down, kissing their feet & fawning over them night & day (worshipping them constantly). It has nothing to do with insecurities. It's a sick desire for power & control.

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Just thought I'd mention it.

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it's official... you're a nutjob

and a nasty one at that... throwing spiritual stuff in to have a backhanded go at someone is an unbelieveably classless, tacky thing to do

i don't see you and bill o'reilly doing the P.R work for Jesus as a particularly good idea

MoBetterBliss said:

Tempest said:

I'd like to mention one more thing if I may. . . .

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Some women like to be (or demand to be) WORSHIPPED! It's a SPIRITUAL dysfunction with some. Let's be brutally honest here & come right out and call it what it is. . . . A JEZEBEL SPIRIT. Therefore, they need to have guys telling them how wonderful they are, how beautiful they are, etc. all the time. They aren't happy unless the man is bowing down, kissing their feet & fawning over them night & day (worshipping them constantly). It has nothing to do with insecurities. It's a sick desire for power & control.

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Just thought I'd mention it.

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it's official... you're a nutjob

and a nasty one at that... throwing spiritual stuff in to have a backhanded go at someone is an unbelieveably classless, tacky thing to do

i don't see you and bill o'reilly doing the P.R work for Jesus as a particularly good idea

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I wasn't throwing anything at anyone and did not have a backhanded go at anyone.

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Mo, you're out of line and way off track.

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There are women like that FOR REAL.

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Call me whatever you like. It doesn't matter to me cuz the truth is what it is and it's the truth that can set you free.

Tempest said:

MoBetterBliss said:

it's official... you're a nutjob

and a nasty one at that... throwing spiritual stuff in to have a backhanded go at someone is an unbelieveably classless, tacky thing to do

i don't see you and bill o'reilly doing the P.R work for Jesus as a particularly good idea

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I wasn't throwing anything at anyone and did not have a backhanded go at anyone.

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Mo, you're out of line and way off track.

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There are women like that FOR REAL.

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Call me whatever you like. It doesn't matter to me cuz the truth is what it is and it's the truth that can set you free.

ok


nutjob

FrenchGuy:

As far as the night club part, . I would let someone go down on me after going dancing. I don't think sweat is necessarily dirty.

Even though I have never had some random "club" guy go down on me, my partner and I go clubbing when the mood strikes.
And yes, we enjoy having sex with each other without jumping in the shower to scrub down.

I asked for pussy, I expect it to taste like pussy. Real and warm and wet and soft. I am not looking for roses or the smell and taste of Dove soap.
If you don't want pussy, don't eat it

Tempest said:

Honestly, let's think about this rationally. How many guys are thinking, is my dick clean enough? Too hairy? Does it smell? Do I have an ugly dick? I know, it sounds crazy and ya'll are prolly like reading that, but it should sound equally crazy & hilarious coming from a woman. No?

Honestly, how many times have you opened a magazine, seen a commercial or watched a tv show in which the dicks physical appreance was the main concern?

I don't think I have ever seen a magazine or commercial that asked if a mans balls were big enough, small enough, soft enough
real enough, symmetric enough, fuzzy enough, or extra dipable.

Yet, you wouldnt have to work very hard to find something that was targeted toward a womans vagina or breasts. Are they big enough, soft enough, perkey enough ect ect

Holy shit, does your pussy smell like pussy? Does the blood on your pad not smell like roses? Becuase, obviously, thats such a problem that we are now going to put purfume in tampons and pads so they smell better.

Plunty of women worry about these things because everyone else is showing us how we should worry about these things.
Young men also project their expectations. We are talking about deeply internalized oppression.

Yes, women watch and criticize themseleves and each other. But this isn't proof that the opression isn't happening, instead, it shows how well the system is working.

Tempest said:

There are plenty of "easy" women out there that could give a rat's butt what their vaginas look like or how it smells.

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What are you even trying to say here?

Tempest said:

I'd like to mention one more thing if I may. . . .

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Some women like to be (or demand to be) WORSHIPPED! It's a SPIRITUAL dysfunction with some. Let's be brutally honest here & come right out and call it what it is. . . . A JEZEBEL SPIRIT. Therefore, they need to have guys telling them how wonderful they are, how beautiful they are, etc. all the time. They aren't happy unless the man is bowing down, kissing their feet & fawning over them night & day (worshipping them constantly). It has nothing to do with insecurities. It's a sick desire for power & control.

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Just thought I'd mention it.

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I have enjoyed the groveling of a man or dozen in my day. I have been WORSHIPPED. I have been
obeyed. I have had the soles of my dirty feet kissed by worthy men who earned my devotion.

There is NOTHING like the Jezebel spirit. I am the happiest when a man wants to bow down and fawn all over me. When I AM the NIGHT and I AM the DAY.

I love power and control. I would love to spank Purplejedi or have a little consensual nonconsent time with Dave1992.

Plz don't pray for me. God might scare away the naughty bois.

No answer... I'm still in the research phase... need more subjects...

RenHoek said:

No answer... I'm still in the research phase... need more subjects...

Any requirements for your research subjects?

LadyCasanova said:

Tempest said:

There are plenty of "easy" women out there that could give a rat's butt what their vaginas look like or how it smells.

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What are you even trying to say here?

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Can you read?

LadyCasanova said:

Tempest said:

I'd like to mention one more thing if I may. . . .

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Some women like to be (or demand to be) WORSHIPPED! It's a SPIRITUAL dysfunction with some. Let's be brutally honest here & come right out and call it what it is. . . . A JEZEBEL SPIRIT. Therefore, they need to have guys telling them how wonderful they are, how beautiful they are, etc. all the time. They aren't happy unless the man is bowing down, kissing their feet & fawning over them night & day (worshipping them constantly). It has nothing to do with insecurities. It's a sick desire for power & control.

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Just thought I'd mention it.

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I have enjoyed the groveling of a man or dozen in my day. I have been WORSHIPPED. I have been
obeyed. I have had the soles of my dirty feet kissed by worthy men who earned my devotion.

There is NOTHING like the Jezebel spirit. I am the happiest when a man wants to bow down and fawn all over me. When I AM the NIGHT and I AM the DAY.

I love power and control. I would love to spank Purplejedi or have a little consensual nonconsent time with Dave1992.

Plz don't pray for me. God might scare away the naughty bois.

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You sound like a real winner.

LadyCasanova said:

Tempest said:

Honestly, let's think about this rationally. How many guys are thinking, is my dick clean enough? Too hairy? Does it smell? Do I have an ugly dick? I know, it sounds crazy and ya'll are prolly like reading that, but it should sound equally crazy & hilarious coming from a woman. No?

Honestly, how many times have you opened a magazine, seen a commercial or watched a tv show in which the dicks physical appreance was the main concern?

I don't think I have ever seen a magazine or commercial that asked if a mans balls were big enough, small enough, soft enough
real enough, symmetric enough, fuzzy enough, or extra dipable.

Yet, you wouldnt have to work very hard to find something that was targeted toward a womans vagina or breasts. Are they big enough, soft enough, perkey enough ect ect

Holy shit, does your pussy smell like pussy? Does the blood on your pad not smell like roses? Becuase, obviously, thats such a problem that we are now going to put purfume in tampons and pads so they smell better.

Plunty of women worry about these things because everyone else is showing us how we should worry about these things.
Young men also project their expectations. We are talking about deeply internalized oppression.

Yes, women watch and criticize themseleves and each other. But this isn't proof that the opression isn't happening, instead, it shows how well the system is working.

You are amazing.

Tempest said:

LadyCasanova said:

I have enjoyed the groveling of a man or dozen in my day. I have been WORSHIPPED. I have been
obeyed. I have had the soles of my dirty feet kissed by worthy men who earned my devotion.

There is NOTHING like the Jezebel spirit. I am the happiest when a man wants to bow down and fawn all over me. When I AM the NIGHT and I AM the DAY.

I love power and control. I would love to spank Purplejedi or have a little consensual nonconsent time with Dave1992.

Plz don't pray for me. God might scare away the naughty bois.

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You sound like a real winner.

She does. She beats the shit out of you lady.

At least she does not go around make judgments about people that only a "God" can make.

This posts like all your posts on this thread are bullshit. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Stymie said:

Tempest said:

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You sound like a real winner.

She does. She beats the shit out of you lady.

At least she does not go around make judgments about people that only a "God" can make.

This posts like all your posts on this thread are bullshit. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

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It's amazing how 'elequence' & ignorance can flow from the same faucet simultaneously.