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HIV and the porn industry: why does it seem deliberate? Call me a conspiracy buff for stating this. | |
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You know how I feel about porn. But I doubt there's any conspiracy here. | |
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I say that because of the political ties to this and the push the enforce the condom rule in heterosexual mainstream porn (which I admit I hardly look at, just those OUTSIDE the mainstream industry, which probably makes less than $1 million anyway much less a frigging billion). Like even the "fourth one" is a question mark because the folks at Adult Video News (I think) said that they couldn't confirm it. And if you noticed, two of them "came out with their HIV diagnosis" in the same week of August and two more in about a couple days off from each other this month. Which is why I raised the alarm bells. | |
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I don't belief conspiracy.
99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%. | |
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Word from the Free Speech Coalition (got this from another board): | |
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modern mainstream porn is basically extreme porn, yeah, I said it, when 90% of modern female actresses are willing to do creampies, for example, it makes little to no sense to use a condom
modern porn is out of control, the business is ruled by crooks and played by wackos and total sluts without any trace of common sense
I still remember 90s porn, when ALMOST everybody used a condom (and better cinematography/scripts) , and the xtreme shit was underground... | |
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That's why I find myself liking retro porn and indie porn more and I love the ladies by themselves (or together?). To be frank, I don't even watch mainstream porn that much but you can see how extreme it is. Three or four (or sometimes five or six?!) people fucking at the same time? SMH. | |
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Personally, if i do watch porn i think amatuer is the way to go.
If i have sex with someone i ahve to have good chemistry with them! otherwise it will be an awkward experience for both involved. Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener
All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen Datdonkeydick- Asherfierce Gary Hunts Album Isn't That Good- Soulalive | |
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Also, i hate when people act so over the damn top in porn! i think it happens a lot more in straight porn honestly. The girls screaming and hmmmming and ahhh ahhhhhhhh very loudly for 30 minutes. Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener
All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen Datdonkeydick- Asherfierce Gary Hunts Album Isn't That Good- Soulalive | |
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. No conspiracy Stupidity, Ignorance, Drugs, Desperation, Stupidity
. The same way in real life people are still not using protection, not getting test and lying, HIV nor other STD contracting is going down, more an more people mentally or socially removed from the 80/90s HIV trauma, non stop unwanted pregnancies
. Why would we think porn actors are any different?
. Most people aren't even educated on time lines and ways of contracting disease. Anywhere there is pink: the eye(facials) the mouth(oral) the ass or vagina, or an open wound or anyone recently shaved(the skin is broken) can contract HIV or certain STD
. A person can contract HIV on Monday, get tested on Wednesday and it not show they have HIV
. I just found out a high school friend is now HIV+ just turned 40 [Edited 9/11/13 5:47am] [Edited 9/11/13 5:48am] [Edited 9/11/13 5:49am] | |
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Gunsnhalen said:Also, i hate when people act so over the damn top in porn! i think it happens a lot more in straight porn honestly. The girls screaming and hmmmming and ahhh ahhhhhhhh very loudly for 30 minutes. Sometimes they wil be moaning and having an ''orgasm'' just by giving someone a hand job If you hate that, then NEVER WATCH ASIAN PORN. You will go deaf. | |
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That's all they do. I can't stand that shit. | |
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I'm not really understanding why people get upset about it being fake. They are actors, of course it's fake. Just because they are engaging is sex doesn't mean that it automatically must be honest.
The screams, over reactions, the extreme closeups, all that shit is done because this is exactly what the average viewer wants to see. | |
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Ive seen some of the best porn in years on Cam2Cam sites. Chaterbate and Cam4 have some extremely hot couples going at it. What is nice bout these couples is both are willing players who have an exhibist streak and are into each other. The chemistry can be off the charts.
But back to the HIV issue from what Ive read these people are getting infected off set. I know that Rod Dailly who recently came up positive also does escorting and probably got it from that and then transfered it to his girlfriend. [Edited 9/11/13 10:22am] The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. | |
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Are you talking about with the girls? YES... that is Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener
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I think the first HIV chick is an escort too. But yeah many are stating this did not occur on set at all and there's now a question mark about a fourth HIV person, some are saying the AIDS company made the fourth person up. | |
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Just like work and sports. 99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%. | |
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What is the etc?
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99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%. | |
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I agree with Erin on this matter... | |
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How do you explain rape culture? 99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%. | |
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Well, I certainly wouldn't explain it as men thinking they know she wants it. | |
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99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%. | |
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I'd define is simply as some men are complete *ssholes. There is nothing worst in my opinion that raping women. The damage done complicates most women's entire lives. I wish they would put in in charge of handing out discipline 4 rape. It would NOT be pretty. | |
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Timmy, from what I have read from porn actors employed in the LA area who opposed the condom law, basically boils down to this: Adult workers in LA have access to a lot of services that are tailored for the porn industry, and are in a county where this line of work is regulated. Free HIV & STD testing is one thing they can get easily here, availability of free health services & counselling is another. Since so much of that industry has historically been centered here, former actors have gone to great lengths to make these available. It's essentially a Harm Reduction model - if you are going to do this, try to make it possible to do it under humane conditions.
If LA makes it a rule that you can't shoot porn without condoms, and the producers claim they can't sell movies with condoms as easily as movies made without (which they do claim), then they are likely to move away from LA and into areas which are not as regulated and where those services are not available. You just move the industry into another area where they don't have to use condoms.
The desired effect of the law seems to be to mandate condom use in porn. But you can't really do that. You can only make laws pertaining to what business is legal to conduct in a city or a county.
What you would need, for that to happen, is for the porn audience to DEMAND movies with condoms and boycott those shot bareback. And good luck getting that audience mobilized to take action. | |
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Good points. That's why I came to the conclusion that this is just a political stunt. And seeing as most porn actors don't get HIV from the set, then it would be silly for them to do it on purpose if HIV testing was easily available. No wonder why California didn't enforce this! | |
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