phunkdaddy said:

babynoz said:

That's our fundamental disagreement right there...I don't think this team is better than 2-6.

This is the worst Steeler team in decades.

I counted at least three passes that should have been caught and actually lost count of how many tackles were missed. Ben is powerful but not as versatile as his peers in the elite QB class...therefore the pathetic lack of pass protection is a huge issue.

Hell, if we're gonna put it all on Tomlin we may as well say we need Chuck Noll back...who, by the way, had a few not so great seasons of his own, ditto Cowher.

I agree with this article for the most part.....

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/09/pittsburgh-steelers-bad-start-four-reasons/

That article is old which is dated Sep.29

It's already November. The Steelers have won 2 games since that article.

What does Chuck Noll have to do with the terrible coaching job Tomlin and his staff

is doing this year? Of course Chuck Noll had a few bad coaching seasons once his

Hall of Famers retired. Comparing Mike Tomlin to Chuck Noll is like comparing Keyshia

Cole to Chaka Khan. Chuck is a Hall of fame coach and Tomlin is nowhere near that yet and I like Coach Tomlin but he is doing a poor job this season. This team has been unprepared to play most of the season and they couldn't even get it going until late in

the 4th qtr against a terrible Oakland Raiders team. The team has lost like 9 of 11 games dating back to last season with losses coming to Tennessee, Cleveland, San Diego, and Oakland all teams under 500. Big Ben threw 4 td's against New England's defense despite the questionable playcalling and terrible protection of the offensive line. Hell I would say he's very versatile (particularly escaping the rush and turning a broken play into a positive play) if not as accurate as those quote elite qbs. He can't do what they do but they sure as hell can't do what he does either. Trust me I'm not one of these

fans calling for Coach Cowher to come back. Cowher is a good solid no nonsense coach but he has proven to choke in the AFC championship game a few times particularly at

home. I'm all for bringing in a new coach with new ideas and energy and not one who is going to be a Rooney pet and have to do things the so called archaic Steeler way.

It was Kordell Stewart who choked during AFC Championship game.

[Edited 11/4/13 2:02am]

uPtoWnNY said:

I think the Steeler problems have less to do with Tomlin and more with the front office (similar to the Giants). The defense looks old & slow.

It kinda goes hand in hand. Honestly I have great respect for Dick Lebeau, but I think it's time for him to retire.