robertlove said:

BobGeorge909 said:

Tempest said: fo real! not all of them get snipped? i didnt know that, despite my experiences with porn. i got snipped..partly for hygenic reasons...partly for cosmetic...and ive never celebrated haunaka...neither have my parents., nor their parents. many parents i speak to today get their male kids snipped for cosmetic reasons. the hygenkc gig isso mewhat dispelled...we now seem to reliaze that most kids play with their penises enough to where the stay relatively clean. have u heard some women speak of uncircumcised penises? i have, and its usually witha degree of disgust. imma get my little dude snipped.. oh...and did u knkw MOST women dont get cosmetic surgery?

What are you talking about? Most men in the world aren't even circumcised.

Where did you get that from? I remember reading otherwise, but can't find any reliable statistics right now.

Just take into account the many muslims, plus the majority or Americans who do it for cosmetic reasons alone. Sure, you might have a bunch of buddhists in Asia, Christians in South America and most Europeans who aren't circumcised, but I still believe circumcision is the norm in the world.

No, circumcision is not the norm. There are many more men in the world uncircumcised than circumcised. I'll go hunting for some more statistics online and get back. The Wiki says it's about 1/3 of the world's men who are circumcised.

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Just as an FYI, men who still have their foreskin are far more susceptible to yeast infections than men who are circumcised. In fact, it can be a real problem for some men. It isn't just bacteria that's an issue, it's yeast as well which is a fungi (not a bacteria).

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http://ezinearticles.com/...id=6785132

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Just thought I'd share.

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This Wiki says 1/6 to 1/3 of men around the world are circumcised.

Thanks for the stats.


I myself am not an expert on this issue at all, as it's the clear norm not to be circumcised where I am from. The discussion I took part in (on facebook) shed a lot of new light for me on this issue:

An ex-orger (American) basically said how the pro-circumcision arguments in America are simply a mischief-making to conceal the mostly cosmetic-oriented ineterest of most parents who choose to circumcise their boys.

I have never heard of any infections or other illnesses due to lack of hygiene of uncircumcised people in my area. If you're clean (and parents clean their babies as they should), there is no reason why foreskin should prevent being clean underneath.

If some kind of bacteria or fungus does settle, the foreskin is not the cause, but rather a general lack of hygiene, which then shows itself earlier under the foreskin. But, like I said, if you shower (or shower your baby properly), there is no reason why an uncircumsised penis should be "less clean" than the other.

It's not about being "less clean". Many women have serious problems with recurring yeast infections (vaginal). Yeast is present in all of our bodies but can get out of whack / balance. Just because a woman gets a yeast infection, doesn't mean she's unclean. I know a lot of women who have issues with yeast infections who are very clean and take care of their bodies. Fortunately, I've never had that recurring issue but many women do.

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When you have a foreskin that covers the penis, it's a warm, moist enclosed area (much like a vagina is enclosed). This is where yeast can get out of control. Yeast thrives in warm, moist places. When your penis is covered with a foreskin, it gets warm and moist in there. That's normal. It's a perfect breeding ground for yeast. Circumcised men usually do not have that issue because their penis is "uncovered".

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Showering really has little to do with yeast overgrowth. People who shower frequently can have recurring issues with yeast infections.

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P.S. I'm no expert either. Only sharing what I know.

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Tempest said:

It's not about being "less clean". Many women have serious problems with recurring yeast infections (vaginal). Yeast is present in all of our bodies but can get out of whack / balance. Just because a woman gets a yeast infection, doesn't mean she's unclean. I know a lot of women who have issues with yeast infections who are very clean and take care of their bodies. Fortunately, I've never had that recurring issue but many women do.

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When you have a foreskin that covers the penis, it's a warm, moist enclosed area (much like a vagina is enclosed). This is where yeast can get out of control. Yeast thrives in warm, moist places. When your penis is covered with a foreskin, it gets warm and moist in there. That's normal. It's a perfect breeding ground for yeast. Circumcised men usually do not have that issue because their penis is "uncovered".

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Showering really has little to do with yeast overgrowth. People who shower frequently can have recurring issues with yeast infections.

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P.S. I'm no expert either. Only sharing what I know.

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That's not true, though! Why would the area underneath the foreskin be moist, like a vagina? The inside of a vagina is one big mucous membrane, while the glans - with or without foreskin - is not. Hoping not to be too intrusive, I can clearly say that the area underneath my foreskin has never been more or less moist than, for instance, my hands.

That's why the risk of a yeast infection should not be higher or lower if someone is not circumcised. Circumcision does not affect the moisture or lubrication underneath the foreskin (if you shower and dry like any normal person would)!

But Dave, it is true that the area is moist. After all it's skin and it's "covered". Skin that's covered gets moist. Ever worn a band aid over your finger? When you take off the bandaid, the skin underneath is moist. Just using that as an example. Of course it's going to get moist in there. Did you read the article I posted earlier? If not, be sure to do so. K?

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http://ezinearticles.com/...id=6785132

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I'm not saying an uncircumcised penis is EXACTLY like a vagina. My point was that it's enclosed or covered and therefore moist. It's certainly more moist than a circumcised male because his penis isn't covered. It only makes sense.

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In the end, no one's penis is better than another person's penis because one has a cover and the other doesn't. They're just different from one another. That's all.

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i'm sorry but, this thread cracks me up

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tinaz said:

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uniden said:

i'm sorry but, this thread cracks me up

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It cracks me up too!

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Given the thread title, I'm guessing there are a lot of people out in Googleville who are clicking on it just out of sheer curiousity as well. Pervs and lurkers alike.

uniden said:

tinaz said:

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I will NEVER look at an Arby's roast beef sandwich the same EVER AGAIN!

It won't stop me from eating them though. They're mmmm, mmmm good.

Dave1992 said:

robertlove said:

What are you talking about? Most men in the world aren't even circumcised.

plus the majority or Americans who do it for cosmetic reasons alone. I still believe circumcision is the norm in the world.

hmmm, maybe male pornstars, but that's about it

it's one of the MOST painful surgeries out there, and the post-op time is INSANELY long (like 2 weeks or more of pure pain)

trust me, I know what it's feels like

ThisOne said:

Not that I'm trying to change the subject But....... I've recently noticed that I have substantial camel toe [Edited 9/5/13 2:52am]

Tempest said:

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BobGeorge909 said:

I was just trying to be funny....then u go and overexplain everything. It was a joke...shes a stand up comediane.

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Yes, I know she's a comedian. Sorry, I didn't know you were kidding. Didn't see any LOL's or anything. I'll delete my post.

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ThisOne said:

Not that I'm trying to change the subject But....... I've recently noticed that I have substantial camel toe [Edited 9/5/13 2:52am]

if it's noticable when you're wearing tight pants, don't worry about it

if it's noticable when you're wearing a dress.... well... girl, you got issues

MoBetterBliss said:

JoeTyler said:

ThisOne said:

MoBetterBliss said:

ThisOne said:

Not that I'm trying to change the subject But..... I've recently noticed that I have substantial camel toe [Edited 9/5/13 2:52am]

if it's noticable when you're wearing tight pants, don't worry about it

if it's noticable when you're wearing a dress.... well... girl, you got issues

No it's only when I go jogging in my tights n booby top!

BobGeorge909 said:

ThisOne said:

No it's only when I go jogging in my tights n booby top!

Well i need to see u in this outfit so i can judge how "severe" these "situations" are

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Dave1992 said:

Thanks for the stats.


I myself am not an expert on this issue at all, as it's the clear norm not to be circumcised where I am from. The discussion I took part in (on facebook) shed a lot of new light for me on this issue:

An ex-orger (American) basically said how the pro-circumcision arguments in America are simply a mischief-making to conceal the mostly cosmetic-oriented ineterest of most parents who choose to circumcise their boys.

I have never heard of any infections or other illnesses due to lack of hygiene of uncircumcised people in my area. If you're clean (and parents clean their babies as they should), there is no reason why foreskin should prevent being clean underneath.

If some kind of bacteria or fungus does settle, the foreskin is not the cause, but rather a general lack of hygiene, which then shows itself earlier under the foreskin. But, like I said, if you shower (or shower your baby properly), there is no reason why an uncircumsised penis should be "less clean" than the other.

It is certainly something that can be a bother. A close friend and her husband decided not to circumcize their child and had nothing but problems. They aren't bad parents, they took care of their son, but he continued to have infections and issues. Because they were ongoing they finally had him circumsized when he was about 3. It was MUCH more difficult and tramatic then, but he hasn't had an issue since. In hindsight, she wishes she'd done it at birth consdiering all he went through.

It's not always cut and dry (pun intended). I still don't belive in routine circumcision, but issues can and do occur.

CarrieMpls said:

Dave1992 said:

Thanks for the stats.


I myself am not an expert on this issue at all, as it's the clear norm not to be circumcised where I am from. The discussion I took part in (on facebook) shed a lot of new light for me on this issue:

An ex-orger (American) basically said how the pro-circumcision arguments in America are simply a mischief-making to conceal the mostly cosmetic-oriented ineterest of most parents who choose to circumcise their boys.

I have never heard of any infections or other illnesses due to lack of hygiene of uncircumcised people in my area. If you're clean (and parents clean their babies as they should), there is no reason why foreskin should prevent being clean underneath.

If some kind of bacteria or fungus does settle, the foreskin is not the cause, but rather a general lack of hygiene, which then shows itself earlier under the foreskin. But, like I said, if you shower (or shower your baby properly), there is no reason why an uncircumsised penis should be "less clean" than the other.

It is certainly something that can be a bother. A close friend and her husband decided not to circumcize their child and had nothing but problems. They aren't bad parents, they took care of their son, but he continued to have infections and issues. Because they were ongoing they finally had him circumsized when he was about 3. It was MUCH more difficult and tramatic then, but he hasn't had an issue since. In hindsight, she wishes she'd done it at birth consdiering all he went through.

It's not always cut and dry (pun intended). I still don't belive in routine circumcision, but issues can and do occur.

Of course, but I guess that's just bad luck, just as issues occur because of the operation itself (like mentioned previously, sometimes even resulting in death of a baby). Many parents probably wish they hadn't had their child circumcised...

One way or another, I guess I'm just trying to say that circumcision is not a necessity if you want to be healthy and hygienic and that, for whatever it may bring, all those positives come at a risk many parents often do not consider.

Personally, if I really wanted to do that much about my personal hygiene, I'd simply go the extra mile and shower two times a day and keep my skin (just like I do, and it works out fine).

How did we ever get from big lips to circumcision vs. uncircumcision? I think we've strayed a bit. Is BobGeorge909 responsible for this transition?

A feeble attempt to get the thread back on track:


I like pussy lips. I like 'em in all shapes, sizes and colours.

man, I'd kill some big pussy lips......

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outsideofthebox said:

man, I'd kill some big pussy lips......

That's more like it

Tempest said:

JoeTyler said:

WOMEN

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I agree. Women are the cause of MANY of their own woes & issues. The way they feel about themselves, their bodies, what's attractive, what's not attractive, etc.

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Patriarchal socialization wins again!!!