Thread started 08/20/13 4:42amFury |
Would you change jobs for the same salary? Okay last time it was should I leave after 15 years... Now the offer has been made and I was a little disappointed that its not an increase but a match of my current salary. But i would now have a commute of 500 Yards each way instead of 38 miles each way (saving $80+ a week in gas)...I can walk to work in 5 mins... Benefits and health care would be about even. I would lose two weeks vacation (4 w Weeks to two weeks). The store I would be in charge of is 1/5! The size of the one I'm at now but does more volume. I would working again with my best friend, and had a great work relationship at my current job before he left ( he was my boss and he is the one who heavily recruited me for this position) Although the current job is offering me money to stay, this is no longer the same company I started with 15 years ago. All of my coworkers Nd people I knew around the country are gone...a lot of them unceremoniously fired after years of dedication. One just got fired two weeks ago after being demoted last year.
My heart is saying stay and my head us saying leave because all I have on my résumé for the last 15 years is this job that can be pulled from Me on a whim.
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Reply #1 posted 08/20/13 4:49am
missfee |
I say change jobs based on the factors you mentioned. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. |
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Reply #2 posted 08/20/13 5:41am
PurpleJedi |
The loss of 2 weeks vacation is harsh - but not too bad considering most places around HERE don't even give you 1 week until after you've worked there for a year.
The savings in gas and wear-&-tear on your car is worth ALOT.
Sometimes change (even lateral) is good.
Whatever you decide, good luck man!
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Reply #3 posted 08/20/13 5:49am
chocolate1 |
I don't know... Sometimes when we ask opinions, we already have an idea of how we want to handle it... We just want people to help us justify our decisions...
Are you leaning toward leaving? Follow your heart. It seems like you've weighed the pros and cons... The gas/commute alone is enough for me!
If vacation time is the least of your concerns, I say go for it.
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Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."
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Reply #4 posted 08/20/13 5:55am
CarrieMpls Ex-Moderator |
Agree with all that the vacation time thing would be really tough. Can you buy additional time? That's what I'd try to work out.
In any case, sounds like you're ready to go. |
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Reply #5 posted 08/20/13 6:15am
Fury |
i really think i'm ready to go...but for some reason im just holding on to a loveless marriage. two years ago my current boss replaced my buddy who was transferred to another higher volume store...she made no secret that she was sent there to make me quit or be fired. documented everything i didn't do and yet seemed shocked that i wasn't responding to her program. i was put on a 90-day notice that was supposed to all but get me out of the building...but today..i'm her right hand man, her go to guy, the one who is gonna be sitting on the east coast VP meeting next week staying in a hotel 3 miles from my house. i didn't change a thing about me, didn't work any differently. so i went from goat to hero by basically watching everybody else fall by the wayside. we were a privately family owned business when i started in 1998 but they sold the company in 2006 to Bain (yes Mitt Romney Bain) who then cut 25% of the job force through letters and emails. then they cut another 10% the next year. people were so stressed out it was ridiculous. not just store level--ceo's, vp's nobody was safe. they had a lady in my store administer terminations on monday and then they came in and fired her the next day. so i guess i survived the purge for 7 years and im actually a commodity now. but i think its best i leave on a high note because next year could be totally different, depending on the new regime. |
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Reply #6 posted 08/20/13 9:12am
Genesia |
I can't speak to the emotional aspect of this, but from a purely fiscal standpoint, your annual savings in gas alone would be around $3800/year. If you are making less than $50,000/yr, that savings is worth more than the two weeks of vacation.
I agree with Carrie that you should see if you can "buy" extra vacation time, (ie, take unpaid leave). Bank your gas savings to fund it.
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Reply #7 posted 08/20/13 9:33am
Efan |
Am I wrong in thinking that commuting 40 miles each way means you spend about two hours a day/ten hours a week in a car just to get to and from work?
Even if I'm underestimating how fast you drive, you're still spending upward of 30 hours a month stuck in a car. Trading two weeks of vacation to get rid of that seems like a no-brainer to me. |
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Reply #8 posted 08/20/13 9:40am
Genesia |
Efan said:
Am I wrong in thinking that commuting 40 miles each way means you spend about two hours a day/ten hours a week in a car just to get to and from work?
Even if I'm underestimating how fast you drive, you're still spending upward of 30 hours a month stuck in a car. Trading two weeks of vacation to get rid of that seems like a no-brainer to me.
Commuting time is not the same as vacation time.
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Reply #9 posted 08/20/13 9:45am
Efan |
Genesia said:
Efan said:
Am I wrong in thinking that commuting 40 miles each way means you spend about two hours a day/ten hours a week in a car just to get to and from work?
Even if I'm underestimating how fast you drive, you're still spending upward of 30 hours a month stuck in a car. Trading two weeks of vacation to get rid of that seems like a no-brainer to me.
Commuting time is not the same as vacation time.
I don't know...an extra hour of sleep every morning is a pretty valuable commodity if you ask me. Not to mention an extra hour to relax at home after work.
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Reply #10 posted 08/20/13 10:23am
Genesia |
Efan said:
Genesia said:
Commuting time is not the same as vacation time.
I don't know...an extra hour of sleep every morning is a pretty valuable commodity if you ask me. Not to mention an extra hour to relax at home after work.
It kind of depends on the commute. My 40-mile commute takes about 40 minutes - less time, actually, than my former 6-mile commute in the city.
All things considered, I'd rather have the vacation time - but maybe that's just me.
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Reply #11 posted 08/20/13 10:44am
Fury |
I'm not even that upset about the vacation. I only go away on one of them in July anyway. The rest are stay-cations. As they say... Better to leave the party Early and think about what could have been then get shown the door Aginst your will . |
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Reply #12 posted 08/20/13 11:08am
Genesia |
Fury said:
I'm not even that upset about the vacation. I only go away on one of them in July anyway. The rest are stay-cations. As they say... Better to leave the party Early and think about what could have been then get shown the door Aginst your will .
Only if you definitely have another party to go to - if you take my meaning.
I know people who left the party early because they were tired and fed up - and they haven't been to a party since.
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Reply #13 posted 08/20/13 11:38am
Cinny |
I did.
Same employer, but I had to go through the whole hiring process.
I had a job that needed me 7am every Sunday. Now I am Monday to Friday. It suits me and my Saturday nights much better.
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Reply #14 posted 08/20/13 11:40am
Cinny |
Efan said:
Am I wrong in thinking that commuting 40 miles each way means you spend about two hours a day/ten hours a week in a car just to get to and from work?
Even if I'm underestimating how fast you drive, you're still spending upward of 30 hours a month stuck in a car. Trading two weeks of vacation to get rid of that seems like a no-brainer to me.
Me too. Extra sleep.. walk or bike to work (I don't use yards as distance). |
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Reply #15 posted 08/20/13 11:44am
Beautifulstarr 123 |
Fury said:
i really think i'm ready to go...but for some reason im just holding on to a loveless marriage. two years ago my current boss replaced my buddy who was transferred to another higher volume store...she made no secret that she was sent there to make me quit or be fired. documented everything i didn't do and yet seemed shocked that i wasn't responding to her program. i was put on a 90-day notice that was supposed to all but get me out of the building...but today..i'm her right hand man, her go to guy, the one who is gonna be sitting on the east coast VP meeting next week staying in a hotel 3 miles from my house. i didn't change a thing about me, didn't work any differently. so i went from goat to hero by basically watching everybody else fall by the wayside. we were a privately family owned business when i started in 1998 but they sold the company in 2006 to Bain (yes Mitt Romney Bain) who then cut 25% of the job force through letters and emails. then they cut another 10% the next year. people were so stressed out it was ridiculous. not just store level--ceo's, vp's nobody was safe. they had a lady in my store administer terminations on monday and then they came in and fired her the next day. so i guess i survived the purge for 7 years and im actually a commodity now. but i think its best i leave on a high note because next year could be totally different, depending on the new regime.
After reading this, yep, it's time to go. Good luck. |
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Reply #16 posted 08/20/13 12:08pm
Fury |
Genesia said:
Fury said:
I'm not even that upset about the vacation. I only go away on one of them in July anyway. The rest are stay-cations. As they say... Better to leave the party Early and think about what could have been then get shown the door Aginst your will .
Only if you definitely have another party to go to - if you take my meaning.
I know people who left the party early because they were tired and fed up - and they haven't been to a party since.
the invitation to the party has been extended...i aint never that damn mad |
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Reply #17 posted 08/20/13 12:40pm
Genesia |
Fury said:
Genesia said:
Only if you definitely have another party to go to - if you take my meaning.
I know people who left the party early because they were tired and fed up - and they haven't been to a party since.
the invitation to the party has been extended...i aint never that damn mad
Right?! First thing my parents taught me about the working world: Never leave a job willingly - unless you have another job to go to.
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Reply #18 posted 08/20/13 1:15pm
Cinny |
Genesia said:
Fury said:
the invitation to the party has been extended...i aint never that damn mad
Right?! First thing my parents taught me about the working world: Never leave a job willingly - unless you have another job to go to.
The only time I left a job because I disliked it... I left to attend post-secondary school. |
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Reply #19 posted 08/20/13 1:39pm
Genesia |
Cinny said:
Genesia said:
Right?! First thing my parents taught me about the working world: Never leave a job willingly - unless you have another job to go to.
The only time I left a job because I disliked it... I left to attend post-secondary school.
That never would have flown with my parents. I worked all the way through school, too.
In fact, since I turned 16, I have not had a job (of some kind) for a total of about one year.
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Reply #20 posted 08/20/13 2:37pm
Cinny |
Genesia said:
Cinny said:
The only time I left a job because I disliked it... I left to attend post-secondary school.
That never would have flown with my parents. I worked all the way through school, too.
In fact, since I turned 16, I have not had a job (of some kind) for a total of about one year.
Best believe I had a job between semesters! |
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