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Graycap23

1942 UFO over L.A. witnessed by over 1,000,000 people

What are your thoughts on this?

UFO v.s. Army over Los Angeles-1942!

1942 footage and radio report of “Battle of Los Angeles” synchronized to Byron Palmer’s detailed account of the UFO incident witnessed by a million people on 26 February in sky over southern California. There were a minimum 1430 artillery rounds fired at the object.

Palmer was an announcer for the Columbia Broadcasting System (CBS) in those days of dominant nationwide radio mass media with television still the embryo.

Note Mr. Palmer’s reference to the unidentified flying object as a “craft.”
This historic record of the 1942 sighting, which triggered the era of official UFO secrecy by U.S. government, speaks for itself. It is presented without distracting musical soundtrack. See links to additional photographs and news accounts below.

Photographic analysis seemingly explodes ad hoc explanations offered from 1942 to date. These include “slow-moving blimp”, “Japanese aircraft”, “weather balloon”, “mass hallucination triggered by war hysteria”, and “light reflection”.
Air raid sirens were sounded throughout Los Angeles County on the night of 24 – 25 February 1942. A total blackout was ordered and thousands of air raid wardens were summoned to their positions. At 3.16 a.m. the 37th Coast Artillery Brigade began firing 12.8-pound anti-aircraft shells into the air at reported aircraft; over 1,400 shells would eventually be fired. Pilots of the 4th Interceptor Command were alerted but their aircraft remained grounded. The artillery fire continued sporadically until 4.14 a.m. The “all clear” was sounded and the blackout order lifted at 7.21 a.m.

http://www.phathom.com/2011/09/ufo-los-angeles-1942/

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Reply #1 posted 08/13/13 9:26am

RodeoSchro

What are my thoughts? I'm glad you asked!

For context, know this: Earlier that same day, there was a report of a Japanese submarine off the coast, and that the sub had launched 25 shells at an oilfield (the "Bombardment of Ellwood"). Because of the presence of the submarine, a 3-hour alert was issued in Los Angeles at dusk. The Army and Navy searched for the submarine, couldn't find it, and ended the alert at 10:23 PM.

But another alert was issued at 2:22 AM, and a blackout followed within 3 minutes. This is when the shelling began.

The object moved slowly, taking 30 minutes to travel approximately 25 miles. Many shells were observed exploding in the air, but none appeared to have hit the object.

Then, about 20 minutes after the shelling died down, the object returned, travelling westward from Long Beach toward Santa Monica. The shelling resumed, but again there were no apparent hits, and the object disappeared over the ocean.

All this information is from the report filed by Byron Palmer of the Columbia Broadcasting System's "News of the World" from Febuary 25, 1942. Palmer is the person referenced in your article. Here is the audio from his broadcast. Note that nowhere in the broadcast does he ever refer to the object as a "spaceship", "alien craft', "flying saucer" or any other UFO nomenclature. It is correctly referred to as an "unidentified object" and Palmer says some people claimed it was a blimp.

Many people said they saw one or more planes in the air, which the Army said was almost certainly Army pursuit craft.

Here is video of the event. Note that no shells hit the object in the searchlight:



So what was "The Battle of Los Angeles"? Almost certainly it was a case of jittery nerves based on the fact that it was only 2 1/2 months after Pearl Harbor and more importantly, a Japanese sub had shelled a California aviation oilfield only hours before.

Here are some of the excerpts from the Army's report:

A careful study of the evidence suggests that meteorological balloons — known to have been released over Los Angeles — may well have caused the initial alarm. This theory is supported by the fact that anti-aircraft artillery units were officially criticized for having wasted ammunition on targets which moved too slowly to have been airplanes. After the firing started, careful observation was difficult because of drifting smoke from shell bursts. The acting commander of the anti-aircraft artillery brigade in the area testified that he had first been convinced that he had seen fifteen planes in the air, but had quickly decided that he was seeing smoke. Competent correspondents like Ernie Pyle and Bill Henry witnessed the shooting and wrote that they were never able to make out an airplane.

As pointed out here http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4171, most gunners reported not seeing anything at all, and were mainly firing at the smoke from other exploding shells.

Let's assume it WAS a flying saucer. It's helpful to ask these critical questions:

1. Did we shoot it down? (There is a "document" that says we recovered 2 UFOs that night, but that "document" has been proven fake)
2. Why didn't the UFO shoot back? (No one anywhere has ever testified the UFO ever attacked us)
3. If the UFO never attacked us in any way, why did we open up on it?
4. If it was impervious to our shells, and we didn't shoot it down, why didn't it ever come back? (Other than its return flight back over LA, where once again we couldn't bring it down)
5. Or, why didn't it (the UFO) ever appear anywhere else? (If it was impervious to attack, and had intentions of some kind, why only one appearance?)
6. How come the object was picked up on radar? (It was, several times. UFOs are not supposed to be able to be seen on radar)
7. And how come we LOST a slow-moving object on radar? (We lost if for a short time. Did it put up shields? Or did the fact that there were hundreds of shells exploding in the air make finding it
just a little bit difficult?)

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Reply #2 posted 08/13/13 9:30am

XxAxX

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wild. there are ancient records of such aerial battles throughout history

Graycap23 said:

What are your thoughts on this?

UFO v.s. Army over Los Angeles-1942!

1942 footage and radio report of “Battle of Los Angeles” synchronized to Byron Palmer’s detailed account of the UFO incident witnessed by a million people on 26 February in sky over southern California. There were a minimum 1430 artillery rounds fired at the object.

Palmer was an announcer for the Columbia Broadcasting System (CBS) in those days of dominant nationwide radio mass media with television still the embryo.

Note Mr. Palmer’s reference to the unidentified flying object as a “craft.”
This historic record of the 1942 sighting, which triggered the era of official UFO secrecy by U.S. government, speaks for itself. It is presented without distracting musical soundtrack. See links to additional photographs and news accounts below.

Photographic analysis seemingly explodes ad hoc explanations offered from 1942 to date. These include “slow-moving blimp”, “Japanese aircraft”, “weather balloon”, “mass hallucination triggered by war hysteria”, and “light reflection”.
Air raid sirens were sounded throughout Los Angeles County on the night of 24 – 25 February 1942. A total blackout was ordered and thousands of air raid wardens were summoned to their positions. At 3.16 a.m. the 37th Coast Artillery Brigade began firing 12.8-pound anti-aircraft shells into the air at reported aircraft; over 1,400 shells would eventually be fired. Pilots of the 4th Interceptor Command were alerted but their aircraft remained grounded. The artillery fire continued sporadically until 4.14 a.m. The “all clear” was sounded and the blackout order lifted at 7.21 a.m.

http://www.phathom.com/2011/09/ufo-los-angeles-1942/

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Reply #3 posted 08/13/13 9:39am

KoolEaze

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RodeoSchro, I like your rational and calm approach to these matters..but...how do you explain THIS?

lol

" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #4 posted 08/13/13 9:50am

RodeoSchro

KoolEaze said:

RodeoSchro, I like your rational and calm approach to these matters..but...how do you explain THIS?

lol



I'll see your abducted cow and raise you an abducted dude!



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Reply #5 posted 08/14/13 8:16am

XxAxX

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here is some proof!! stop pretending you don't believe!!

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Reply #6 posted 08/14/13 5:56pm

Byron

What really caused the Air Battle Over L.A.:



Damn Brady kids mad...

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