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Thread started 07/09/13 10:46pm

92tilinfinity

Experiences with sociopaths .

I'm sure by reading the below , you may have someone in mind that may have the same exact traits . I'm pretty sure my father is a sociopath . He pretty much fits every characteristic . I was just speechless once one of my older brothers & I went down the list . Our jaws literally dropped . As many times as we have tried to keep our father in our lives , his presence drains us & completely drives us insane . Do any of you have a similar story ?

  • Glibness and Superficial Charm

  • Manipulative and Conning
    They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

  • Grandiose Sense of Self
    Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

  • Pathological Lying
    Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

  • Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
    A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

  • Shallow Emotions
    When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

  • Incapacity for Love

  • Need for Stimulation
    Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

  • Callousness/Lack of Empathy
    Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

  • Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
    Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

  • Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
    Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

  • Irresponsibility/Unreliability
    Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

  • Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
    Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

  • Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
    Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

  • Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
    Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

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Reply #1 posted 07/10/13 2:46am

ZombieKitten

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Here's a great article written by a sociopath:

http://m.smh.com.au/lifes...2ja9p.html
I'm the mistake you wanna make
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Reply #2 posted 07/10/13 5:31am

PurpleJedi

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eek

Holy cow!

My ex sis-in-law's loser boyfriend fits EVERY SINGLE ONE of those characteristics!!!

lol

By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory!
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Reply #3 posted 07/10/13 9:36am

Superfan1984

My daughter had a friend with all of these qualities. Very scary to see a child who was so nasty. She's grown now and still has all of these traits.
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Reply #4 posted 07/10/13 9:53am

Efan

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I was going to read all this, but then I spent 5 minutes over in Music & More, so I think I've got it all sussed out already.

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Reply #5 posted 07/10/13 9:54am

aardvark15

My mother neutral
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Reply #6 posted 07/10/13 10:45am

KingBAD

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i don't see why anyone would put me in the category BUT

i've been the subject of a few peer reviews in the past...

go figure eek

i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT...
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Reply #7 posted 07/10/13 11:25am

Shyra

I haven't known anyone with all of these characteristics, but just one would be enough. I had a female neighbor who really disappointed me and changed my impression of her. At the beginning of our friendship, I found her funny, charming, and smart. We shared a lot of common interests; consequently, we became fast friends. One day she was telling me how frustrated she was because she was getting a lot of a neighbor's mail. Evidently this neighbor had a death in the family and was receiving a lot of sympathy cards. Doris said she took the first batch to the neighbor, but as days went on, she kept receiving more and was tired of it. I asked her what she was going to do about it. This was her response: "Fuck that shit. I'm tired of delivering. If she can't tell her friends her correct address, too bad!" I asked her what she did with the cards she had just received. Was she going to take them to her or what? "Hell no. I opened them to see if there was any money, and if there was, I kept the money and threw the cards away." When she told me that, I immediately formed a new opinion of her and quietly distanced myself. That just turned my stomach to think that she would be so larceny hearted. Wasn't long before she stuck a knife in my back, too. I'd call her a "quasi-sociopath." mad

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Reply #8 posted 07/10/13 3:18pm

Stymie

Efan said:

I was going to read all this, but then I spent 5 minutes over in Music & More, so I think I've got it all sussed out already.


That's what I was going to say. falloff
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Reply #9 posted 07/10/13 3:38pm

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i have a bit of time on me hands so i shall give you the tour

  • Glibness and Superficial Charm : it's funny the names they give for bein taught etiquette. look at whut you call people of class and you'll see these are quite evident in their makeup as well.

  • Manipulative and Conning
    They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
    sad to say, however, these are qualities that one comes by as an instinct. call it a survival mechinism. if one is well off yet in not so good an area it would behoove them to be able to put others in a state of wonderment or be brutalized by the physically stronger. in the beginnin there will be some bloody noses, scuffed knees, ripped shirts, and busted lips. learnin to fight is but a small part of overcommin these obsticles, one has to work smarter not harder, and even champs get their asses kicked eventually.

  • Grandiose Sense of Self
    Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
    people wanna know where my name came from, i was born with it. i had this name before i was given a govmnt name. with king as a name that becomes the title connected to the en.

  • Pathological Lying
    Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
    at this i can only snicker a bit. i, for the most part, found lyin beneath me. i couldn't think of anyone (except my g-ma) that rated me lyin to. my g-ma was who i wouldn't want to hurt or anger.

  • Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
    A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
    i actually had to work a whole program just around this particular issue. i didn't get where i got because of my name or as some birth-right, i got there by hard work and vigilance. to slip was to show a chink in the armour which would be exploited by the less fortunate connivers with axes to grind.

  • Shallow Emotions
    When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
    bein incapaple of lyin (at times) it is also a bit difficult to be engenuine. whut may seem insignificant can not be judged by one that has no idea whut IS significant in other's plans.

  • Incapacity for Love we all have the capacity for love... except the psychopaths.

  • Need for Stimulation
    Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
    well, yeah. there is that.

  • Callousness/Lack of Empathy
    Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
    there's a world out there with plenty for one's heart to bleed over, and many who NEED that kind of attention. today i have more of a patient attitude toward these types, but still, REALLY...

  • Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
    Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
    yes, been there done that. the needs of "THE ONE", and no matter how many other reaped from my endeveors it was my needs that must be met first.

  • Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
    Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
    with my name, it was a bit of a prollum behavin 'propperly'. teachers, religious people, grown ups, and the jealous people whom all had an issue with my name, like if yo name were STARLIGHT, HONEYMOON, MYJOY, OURLOVE, or some shit. people will go out of their way to antagonize, then scream FOUL when you back 'em off you

  • Irresponsibility/Unreliability
    Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
    responsible and reliable yes, it's a part of the manipulation as is truth. you can truely fuck people by tellin the truth. it's an unexpected weapon. commitment??? i can (even now to a degree) love you conditionally with no limit, or give you unlimited love, with conditions.

  • Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
    Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
    why is permiscuity a devient thing?

  • Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
    Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
    if i thought, for one minit, i was gonna live past 16, i woulda opened a bank account...

  • Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
    Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
    agreed. the ability to mimic those who can do damage to one's life and freedom is all important in a life of conditions, however the roadmap is given to us by those who prosper with the blood and sweat of others... BUY A LAWYER, PAY A COP.say whut yoou wanna say, when you wanna say it. do whut you wanna do when you wanna do it. BUT FIRST know there are consequences for everthing one does in life. some NOT SO GOOD!!! lol
i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT...
evilking
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Reply #10 posted 07/10/13 5:01pm

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^interesting. i think some those so-called negative traits could be culturally influenced, or might arise from childhood experience, or might not even be inherently all that 'bad' given different contexts. in fact some of those traits are good, pure survival skills. i bet a lot of military troops must deliberately cultivate such a mindset in order to get through the day as they go around working on 'anti personnel' missions. i think i read somewhere that a fairly high proportion of successful CEOs, politicians, share quite a few of the above traits.

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XxAxX

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aardvark15 said:

My mother neutral

sad sorry for you there rose

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Reply #12 posted 07/10/13 5:41pm

aardvark15

XxAxX said:



aardvark15 said:


My mother neutral

sad sorry for you there rose


hug
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Reply #13 posted 07/10/13 7:17pm

KingBAD

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XxAxX said:

^interesting. i think some those so-called negative traits could be culturally influenced, or might arise from childhood experience, or might not even be inherently all that 'bad' given different contexts. in fact some of those traits are good, pure survival skills. i bet a lot of military troops must deliberately cultivate such a mindset in order to get through the day as they go around working on 'anti personnel' missions. i think i read somewhere that a fairly high proportion of successful CEOs, politicians, share quite a few of the above traits.

my point exactly.

it's the things we are taught as bein a sign of

etiquette, manors, disipline, and character... class

but when it cannot be controled by those in power

it becomes somethin horrible.

in service to the powerful

they want you to be heartless, inscrupless (sp) even treacherous.

they have no time for those who would 'lick the wounds' of others.

loosin sleep over a job well done can get one ostrasized in propper company

they want you to kill and think nothin of it, except that you did it for a good cause.

in the service of one's own agenda, it's a sickness.

unless you the one doin it lol

i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT...
evilking
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Reply #14 posted 07/10/13 7:20pm

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I read somewhere there's varying degrees of sociopaths, and disturbingly the people I'm closest to- my sister, best friend, and several exes have all been a light version. confused

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Reply #15 posted 07/10/13 7:30pm

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evenstar3 said:

I read somewhere there's varying degrees of sociopaths, and disturbingly the people I'm closest to- my sister, best friend, and several exes have all been a light version. confused


One in 27
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Reply #16 posted 07/10/13 7:31pm

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ZombieKitten said:

evenstar3 said:

I read somewhere there's varying degrees of sociopaths, and disturbingly the people I'm closest to- my sister, best friend, and several exes have all been a light version. confused

One in 27

It's that common? Good, I don't feel so bad then lol

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Reply #17 posted 07/13/13 1:50pm

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Whoever has had dealings with Prince can share them here. smile

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Reply #18 posted 07/16/13 10:31am

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I lived with a sociopath for 10 years. It really is quite the cycle they go through, and the cycle abuse they put their partners through is mind warping. It's like a dance. Educate yourself, and stay away.
I've reached in darkness and come out with treasure
I layed down with love and I woke up with lies
Whats it all worth only the heart can measure
It's not whats in the mirror but what's left inside
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Reply #19 posted 07/16/13 2:33pm

dJJ

I was married to a sociopath.

Still picking up the pieces.


At the moment I have a sociapath stalker guy who lives in my street.

I have involved the police, but he's very skilled at conning them.



Not that I recommend it,

but it does help to have been married to a psychopath.

I recognize one faster and also keep a save distance.

Unfortunately this guy is obsessed with me. Will have to call the police every other day to report little things he does. I don't talk or communicate with neibourhood guy at all.

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Reply #20 posted 07/16/13 2:35pm

dJJ

If you read "Stalking the Soul", you will understand a lot of things your father did better.

He never had the intention to be good. Because he just doesn't know what that is.

He can't experience love or any communication that is based on equality. As long as he thinks he is the boss, you are save.

92tilinfinity said:

I'm sure by reading the below , you may have someone in mind that may have the same exact traits . I'm pretty sure my father is a sociopath . He pretty much fits every characteristic . I was just speechless once one of my older brothers & I went down the list . Our jaws literally dropped . As many times as we have tried to keep our father in our lives , his presence drains us & completely drives us insane . Do any of you have a similar story ?

  • Glibness and Superficial Charm

  • Manipulative and Conning
    They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

  • Grandiose Sense of Self
    Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

  • Pathological Lying
    Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

  • Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
    A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

  • Shallow Emotions
    When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

  • Incapacity for Love

  • Need for Stimulation
    Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

  • Callousness/Lack of Empathy
    Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

  • Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
    Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

  • Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
    Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

  • Irresponsibility/Unreliability
    Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

  • Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
    Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

  • Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
    Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

  • Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
    Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

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