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Reply #90 posted 06/07/13 3:06pm

CynicKill

People seem to forget just how difficult teenage girls can be.

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Reply #91 posted 06/07/13 4:32pm

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Azz said:

XxAxX said:

she's trapped in a goldfish bowl, sweating in the spotlight, served up for breakfast lunch and dinner by the paparazzi. it will truly be a miracle if she survives this part of her life intact. god bless her and her sibs

Its not quite like that. She has been ENJOYING the limelight, and playing up to the cameras - similar to how every grown-up child star does, because they are now only famous for being famous. Someone should have prevented her from Tweeting and appearing on TV shows and acting. I know of one Jackson who did, but was crucified by the media for doing so - a clever ploy by MJ's estate.

of course she is enjoying being an automatic celebrity from birth. in this FaceTwit age EVERYone wants to be a star!!! but just becasue this minor child is *enjoying* the experience, does not mean it has been good for her mental stability, right?

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Reply #92 posted 06/07/13 5:03pm

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XxAxX said:

Azz said:

Its not quite like that. She has been ENJOYING the limelight, and playing up to the cameras - similar to how every grown-up child star does, because they are now only famous for being famous. Someone should have prevented her from Tweeting and appearing on TV shows and acting. I know of one Jackson who did, but was crucified by the media for doing so - a clever ploy by MJ's estate.

of course she is enjoying being an automatic celebrity from birth. in this FaceTwit age EVERYone wants to be a star!!! but just becasue this minor child is *enjoying* the experience, does not mean it has been good for her mental stability, right?

Which is why she should have had her phone taken off her and someone opposing her acting.


My point being that clearly this attempted suicide is both a cry for attention and proof of an underlying issue. This girl needs discipline.

[Edited 6/7/13 10:04am]

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Reply #93 posted 06/07/13 5:10pm

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Azz said:

XxAxX said:

of course she is enjoying being an automatic celebrity from birth. in this FaceTwit age EVERYone wants to be a star!!! but just becasue this minor child is *enjoying* the experience, does not mean it has been good for her mental stability, right?

Which is why she should have had her phone taken off her and someone opposing her acting.


My point being that clearly this attempted suicide is both a cry for attention and proof of an underlying issue. This girl needs discipline.

[Edited 6/7/13 10:04am]

I agree with this. Seems she has been doing pretty much want she wants to do. It also seems like when her dad died, she got a ton of newfound freedom and went buck wild. Now, it's too late to reel her back in.

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Reply #94 posted 06/07/13 5:10pm

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Although I was sad to hear that Paris felt the need to do something like this, after thinking about it for a few days and reading the comments here, I think she needs some real help and a real change in her life.

A girl like this has everything going for her. Looks, money and famous family members. There is so much she could do with her life. Someone with integrity and good character should take her under their wing and show her the real world. Get her involved in something that will give her life a purpose. Being the daughter of MJ she could attract attention in all corners of the world. She should help girls in dire straits, work in the third world, help underpriviledged children, donate her time to important causes.

Instead she will likely waste her life on Twitter and FB and acting. You think this was a cry for help, wait until she's a few years older and still has nothing of any real substance going on in her life. It won't be pretty. Girl needs to do something meaningful and unselfish or she's doomed.

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Reply #95 posted 06/07/13 5:59pm

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empress, i echo your feelings, but quite frankly, there isn't anyone around her that has the type of integrity and good character. all i heard when mj was alive was how well brought up his kids were. everyone laughed about him covering the kids when there were paparazzi around, but even if it looked crazy, it served the purpose of allowing them a sense of security in his world. i'm sure that the kids would have entered school, and there would have been more freedom in their lives, but do you think that mj would have allowed paris to be on twitter 24/7, ingesting the negativity found there? he wouldn't have been able to shield her from all the hostility towards him, but there is no way he would have guided her willingly into that. instead he would have advised her to turn it around, as you're suggesting, as he always tried to do himself. he would have gotten her to do something positive with all of the attention she was bound to get as his daughter, not to mention her natural beauty and charm. looking at his family before he died, can you honestly say that there was anyone like him who embraced those types of things? no, and that they have the opportunity, they're too busy using her (and her brothers) to get their own face time in front of the cameras. they're not going to let any outsiders with good intentions near her. i do fear what's going to happen to her because like you, i think this is only the tip of the iceberg.

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Reply #96 posted 06/07/13 6:06pm

Empress

kibbles said:

empress, i echo your feelings, but quite frankly, there isn't anyone around her that has the type of integrity and good character. all i heard when mj was alive was how well brought up his kids were. everyone laughed about him covering the kids when there were paparazzi around, but even if it looked crazy, it served the purpose of allowing them a sense of security in his world. i'm sure that the kids would have entered school, and there would have been more freedom in their lives, but do you think that mj would have allowed paris to be on twitter 24/7, ingesting the negativity found there? he wouldn't have been able to shield her from all the hostility towards him, but there is no way he would have guided her willingly into that. instead he would have advised her to turn it around, as you're suggesting, as he always tried to do himself. he would have gotten her to do something positive with all of the attention she was bound to get as his daughter, not to mention her natural beauty and charm. looking at his family before he died, can you honestly say that there was anyone like him who embraced those types of things? no, and that they have the opportunity, they're too busy using her (and her brothers) to get their own face time in front of the cameras. they're not going to let any outsiders with good intentions near her. i do fear what's going to happen to her because like you, i think this is only the tip of the iceberg.

[Edited 6/7/13 11:00am]

Yes, I agree with everything you've said. I firmly believe Twitter and FB are dangerous and a waste of time. What started out years ago as a good place to catch up with people etc has turned into nothing but a bitchfest full of hatred and jealousy. I realize not everyone on these sites does this, but the large majority are only on those sites for attention and creating problems for other people.

Angelina Jolie should adopt Paris. shrug

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Reply #97 posted 06/07/13 7:45pm

Emancipation89

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My jaw dropped when I heard this news. WITH A FUCKING MEAT CLEAVER DID I READ THAT RIGHT!?! bawl bawl bawl And please, Marilyn Manson concert my ass I simply refuse to believe she's that stupid. I don't think they know the real reason behind this yet but come on, she just attempted to commit suicide for crying out loud the least thing family can do is protect the child and ask the media to simply fuck off but instead they had to make it sound like she's one spoiled brat. I mean really??

It never looked easy for her even from a distance so I can't imagine what she's been really going through. I hope things get better for her soon but the only way that's gonna happen is if she gets some proper counseling to find inner strength because with MJ, lowlives will never leave him alone dead or alive. Of course I'm only speculating that must've been what drove her over the edge...
Babygirl you meant the entire world to Michael....you literally were the only reason for him to get up in the morning and get ready for the day....Life is just so goddamned precious I hope she realizes that soon cry cry cry


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Marilyn Manson is a far better role model than any of the people Paris is currently in contact with. He's a really knowledgable and truth speaking man, if you've ever listened to interviews. I'm glad Paris is seeing the light through all the Holywood fakery.

I just hope she can get over the depression and move forward. It'll be hard.

Haha when I said the bolded sentence, what I meant was that it's ridiculous how her not being able to attend Manson's concert is being said by the "source close to the family" as the reason she did such a horrible thing to herself because I don't think she's that stupid or spoiled, hence the following sentence. I don't have a problem with her listening to Alice Cooper Marilyn Manson or whatever, really.

BUT, just cause you asked for it, Manson is not that great of a role model to Paris as a person (again she can listen to whatever music she loves), and I usually laugh at people who think Manson is such an intelligent character who speaks the truth. I suppose you say this because you watched something other than Bowling for Columbine that really convinced you he's one knowledgeable person who should be seen as a good role model to teenage girls? So please go ahead and tell me why you think so, because the few interviews I read of his persuaded me he's not that different from any other artist in his league, busy defending themselves and doesn't have a gut to admit what he truly stands for as an artist in real life. I'll admit I don't really know how he behaves in his personal life in general though, I guess he must be so very different from other typical attention loving celebrities in your book?

And we don't even know who she's currently in contact with. Her older brother seems like a good influence for her as well as some other members in that family. At the end of the day I think this issue has more to do with getting enough attention and really finding the inner strength through counseling rather than finding a perfect role model, because there is no such thing in real world anyway.

Empress said:

kibbles said:

empress, i echo your feelings, but quite frankly, there isn't anyone around her that has the type of integrity and good character. all i heard when mj was alive was how well brought up his kids were. everyone laughed about him covering the kids when there were paparazzi around, but even if it looked crazy, it served the purpose of allowing them a sense of security in his world. i'm sure that the kids would have entered school, and there would have been more freedom in their lives, but do you think that mj would have allowed paris to be on twitter 24/7, ingesting the negativity found there? he wouldn't have been able to shield her from all the hostility towards him, but there is no way he would have guided her willingly into that. instead he would have advised her to turn it around, as you're suggesting, as he always tried to do himself. he would have gotten her to do something positive with all of the attention she was bound to get as his daughter, not to mention her natural beauty and charm. looking at his family before he died, can you honestly say that there was anyone like him who embraced those types of things? no, and that they have the opportunity, they're too busy using her (and her brothers) to get their own face time in front of the cameras. they're not going to let any outsiders with good intentions near her. i do fear what's going to happen to her because like you, i think this is only the tip of the iceberg.

[Edited 6/7/13 11:00am]

Yes, I agree with everything you've said. I firmly believe Twitter and FB are dangerous and a waste of time. What started out years ago as a good place to catch up with people etc has turned into nothing but a bitchfest full of hatred and jealousy. I realize not everyone on these sites does this, but the large majority are only on those sites for attention and creating problems for other people.

Angelina Jolie should adopt Paris. shrug

I hope that was a joke lol But speaking of Jolie didn't she go through a phase where she used to cut herself when she was younger? I don't know if she was just an emo-wannabe or actually suffered from depression but I remember reading something about her being not very happy as a kid despite the privilege she had. But look how wonderfully she turned out now.

Point is, yes it's horrible Paris did this to herself but one thing Katherine said is true, being a teenager is difficult no matter who you are, and I've always believed kids being suicidal is not as uncommon as the society thinks. What she needs more than anything imo is support from people close to her and an appropriate counseling/therapy, not another guardian because ultimately it's gotta be her that saves herself from this nightmare.

I just hope this is as low as it gets, and I hope she can remain close to her brothers and work it out with her family.

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Reply #98 posted 06/08/13 12:02am

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Gladys Knight, a family friend of the Jacksons, said Paris needs her teeth knocked out for stepping out of line as a 14 year old!!!lol clapping I think Gladys made that statement a little while ago. I know if Paris was my 14 year old and I caught her listening to Marilyn Manson, she'd definately get her teeth knocked out. lol


http://videos.huffingtonp...-517429761

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Reply #99 posted 06/08/13 1:45am

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15 is a difficult year for girls. It's hell for many, just as it is for young boys. As 15yo girls, we are adjusting to Menses and hormones are changing our bodies and our minds. We discover our body, we like our body and notice that others do too. We discover our mind; 3/4 of it lives in fantasy. We hate our parents, and don't ever want to be told what to do, when to do it or how to do it. Peer pressure is ridiculous and often times the girls are bigger bullies than boys. The stress of it all is a new emotion that 15 year olds, girl or boy, are not equipped to handle. In fact, young teens should be taught and prepared for this adjustment. They need to be told that this is a very chemically active and imbalanced morph stage in their life, and with the right support and understanding - you will be thankful you got thru it, because IT DOES GET BETTER. MAYBE MORE IMPORTANTLY more parents/people need to understand the physiology, neurology and psychology of teen brains. It's the kids without the support systems that get into trouble. Paris is doing double-double duty. It would appear she isn't completely surrounded by a sound support system and she misses her Dad. Top that with fame and zillions of eyes - it must be hell. She's strong. This was a request for help, the only way she knew how. I think she'll get through it.

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Reply #100 posted 06/08/13 6:19am

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Red said:

15 is a difficult year for girls. It's hell for many, just as it is for young boys. As 15yo girls, we are adjusting to Menses and hormones are changing our bodies and our minds. We discover our body, we like our body and notice that others do too. We discover our mind; 3/4 of it lives in fantasy. We hate our parents, and don't ever want to be told what to do, when to do it or how to do it. Peer pressure is ridiculous and often times the girls are bigger bullies than boys. The stress of it all is a new emotion that 15 year olds, girl or boy, are not equipped to handle. In fact, young teens should be taught and prepared for this adjustment. They need to be told that this is a very chemically active and imbalanced morph stage in their life, and with the right support and understanding - you will be thankful you got thru it, because IT DOES GET BETTER. MAYBE MORE IMPORTANTLY more parents/people need to understand the physiology, neurology and psychology of teen brains. It's the kids without the support systems that get into trouble. Paris is doing double-double duty. It would appear she isn't completely surrounded by a sound support system and she misses her Dad. Top that with fame and zillions of eyes - it must be hell. She's strong. This was a request for help, the only way she knew how. I think she'll get through it.



It truly is a hard age, and I'm still dealing with the scars from that time years later
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Reply #101 posted 06/08/13 10:53am

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Azz said:

One can only imagine how it must feel to lose the only parental figure in their life and such a young age

yeah sad

I concur sigh

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Reply #102 posted 06/08/13 9:21pm

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kitbradley said:

Gladys Knight, a family friend of the Jacksons, said Paris needs her teeth knocked out for stepping out of line as a 14 year old!!!lol clapping I think Gladys made that statement a little while ago. I know if Paris was my 14 year old and I caught her listening to Marilyn Manson, she'd definately get her teeth knocked out. lol


http://videos.huffingtonp...-517429761

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disbelief disbelief It sickens me that you'd bring Glady's comments on an earlier Jackson family issue and that you support beating up people simply because they like a different kind of music

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Reply #103 posted 06/13/13 8:54pm

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PARIS JACKSON
SHE HASN'T GRIEVED
OVER DAD'S DEATH

EXCLUSIVE
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Paris Jackson
is stable and doing OK ... but she's dealing with some pretty heavy issues, including the fact that she hasn't dealt with Michael Jackson's death -- this according to sources connected with the Jackson family.

Our sources say Paris -- who's currently receiving psychological help at UCLA Medical Center -- has indeed felt bullied, but NOT by schoolmates. We're told Paris has had an obsession with comments people leave about her on social media and websites -- and the negative comments "really get to her." Our sources say she currently does not have access to her phone or the Internet, so the problem is temporarily solved.

Paris, one source says, is a "rebel." We've learned Paris almost got expelled from school after punching a student who "talked smack about her father."

We're told Debbie Rowe has expressed deep concern about some of the friends Paris has been hanging with -- friends who she believes have been a bad influence.

And there's this ... we're told the shrinks who have been helping Paris believe she has not really gone through the grieving process over her dad's death. In other words, a lot of emotional upset has been building for nearly 4 years.

We're told when Paris gets out of UCLA ... she and Debbie Rowe are going away together for 6 to 8 weeks so she can get better. Our sources say Debbie feels very strongly it's important to get her the hell out of L.A. for the summer.



Read more: http://www.tmz.com#ixzz2W8EmjjNj

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