It's time for this thread to come to an end; at least, to an end as defined by the OP, who wrote:

"I want to begin by saying that I do not believe there is a Chemtrail conspiracy"

SO, SUPA: What say you now? Are you still a non-believer? Or has anyone here been able to convince you of a real-life chemtrail conspiracy? Or, have you moved from "I don't believe in a chemtrail conspiracy" to "I don't know one way or the other" (you know, like cloudy was after he watched five hours of video, LOL)?

RodeoSchro said:

It's time for this thread to come to an end; at least, to an end as defined by the OP, who wrote:

"I want to begin by saying that I do not believe there is a Chemtrail conspiracy"

SO, SUPA: What say you now? Are you still a non-believer? Or has anyone here been able to convince you of a real-life chemtrail conspiracy? Or, have you moved from "I don't believe in a chemtrail conspiracy" to "I don't know one way or the other" (you know, like cloudy was after he watched five hours of video, LOL)?

I have lived in the pathway of 3 airports in my lifetime so I am used to seeing planes in the sky. The one question that I would ask if Chemtrails were real is the fact that the pilots would be poisoning/harming/affecting their own family. It wouldn't arbitrarily not affect the people who are "in on it".

It's hard for me to believe there is a conspiracy, especially regarding an attempt to do something about global warming. It would take fleets and fleets of airplanes and they would be required to do this globally. I don't think any government has the resource to do this across the 7 oceans. It's one thing to do it over a city but why stop there? if that would be the only place to target then it makes no sense as you would be leaving 70% of the planet "unprotected".

AND

It always seemed to me like it is simple plane exhaust.

BUT

I can't say that "nothing" is happening either.

I am more inclined to not believe in the conspiracy but it is still very strange to me.

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Cloudbuster said:

That is disturbing.

RodeoSchro said:

XxAxX said:

general response

1. i feel that at times you are arrogant. you will not allow that your religious affiliation is not the only correct way to view the universe. see, #2, below.

2. Cloudbuster didn't mock your religion, he merely pointed out in no uncertain terms that the consideration of the possibility of chemtrails being real initially requires the same sort of suspension of disbelief as does belief in god, from an atheist's point of view. and i believe he is an atheist, so his comment is not mockery, but plain fact.

3. i vote for Cloudy because he is openminded, and brings fun topics and points of view to attention. lately i think he has been avoiding this place because every single time a topic like this one comes up, the usual folk show up and piss on the thread.

4. no one voted me queen, so feel free not to take me that seriously.

5.

Cloudy runs away because his "theories" are universally destroyed with actual facts, and he can't handle it.

I am unendingly amused how the characterization of God being a creation from my "deluded head space" is somehow not an insult at all. LOL, I really do laugh every time I read that.

Again, I did not bring religion into this. And I still haven't, except to point out to the wee little cloudbuster that his #1 expert, Dr. Bill Deagle, believes very strongly in the same God that I do (created in the same deluded head space?).

I have addressed every argument for chemtrails with a plethora of facts that are indisputable. You think I am arrogant because I have undeniably demonstrated the fallacy of the mind-controlling, weather-controlling, physically-harmful chemtrail conspiracy time after time after time, but that's only because you want so badly to believe in this conspiracy.

I'll tell you as nicely as I can - there is no secret chemtrail conspiracy to control us, influence our weather, or affect us in any physical manner.

deluded head space eh? that's colorful all right. Cloudbuster, shame on you. maybe it's time we all just grow up, act like adults, and stop being so fucking crude.

One thing I did love about this thread was seeing interpersonal relations that I didn't know existed

http://ihsite.com/user/Chemtrails.pdf

MacDaddy said:

That is disturbing.

It's grotesque.

MacDaddy said:

Cloudbuster said:

That is disturbing.

there must be some way to figure out the addresses which recorded the really serious attacks on sept. 8, and compare to commercial/private flight plans. i mean seriously, what air traffic controller would allow those overlapping, same-level near miss paths for either pivate or commercial traffic? wouldn't that be too dangerous??? no way those are regular jet contrails no. way.

MacDaddy said:

BobGeorge909 said:

Ok...so snails, cars, buses, trucks, farts, swimming pools, bi-plains...any myriad of thins leave chemical trails...are all of those chemtrails too? Or is this what were referring to?

Or can we, like i said earlier...lump a legitimate issue like cloud seeding to the chemtrail issue to let it appear to have credibility?

To answer your first question; no those are not chemtrails, those are exhaust fumes, where CO2 is emitted.

Cloudseeding is done by dumping chemical trails in the atmosphere. Don't be put off by the fact that chemtrails are seen as a whacky conspiracy theory. Geo engineering by use of clouseeding is very real.

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BobGeorge909 said:

So should we be discussing chemtrails or cloudseeding?

They're the one and the same thing. The chemicals sprayed in clear blue skies form unnatural clouds. These are the ones that block sunlight from reaching the earth. The chemicals sprayed over clouds cause unnatural precipitation

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MacDaddy said:

www.globalresearch.ca

What are the Causes of “Catastrophic Incidents”? The Impacts of Geo-Engineering on Climate and the Environment

Scientists call for regulation, acknowledge that “Geoengineering” is “causing disasters”

There are still many people who believe that anyone pointing out “chemtrails in the sky” and asking questions is somehow out of tune with reality.

But this is slowly changing as geo-engineering and its effects cannot be kept under wraps any longer. So it is not surprising that the first to come out on mainstream media are so called experts. Playing on the current “scientific consensus” that the earth is warming and a climate catastrophe is imminent, they call on geoengineering to be regulated on a global scale.

Full article here

http://www.hangthebankers...onnection/

passive-agressive pic edit

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