Fonkyman said:

I'd say it's more like 99% of America.

Empress said:

I think you know exactly who I'm talking about on this site. I don't get involved in his posts but I know mental illness when I see it or in this case when I read it.

You know mental illness can run in the family don't ya? You can't make a 'diagnosis' from reading some posts on the interweb. People post in all kinds of states for all kinds of reasons. I've posted on here plenty of times myself after all night sessions of drugs and alcohol. Who'd have guessed?

While there are serious cases all over the world Western society especially seems to love diagnosing people with something or other more and more. When I was a kid you had 'little fuckers'. Now they're misdiagnosed as ADHD, ADD or 'a bit autistic' or some other bollocks at the drop of a hat.

I know someone that has a little fucker. She can't be arsed to discipline her kids properly. She took him to a Doc who readily 'diagnosed' him with something or other and bosh, he's on the smarties.

Then there's the Adults. I know someone that's bang on anti-depressants that doesn't really need them. They're not clinically depressed as far as I can see, though I'm no trick cyclist. I've spent time with the mentally ill and mentally handicapped on psychiatric wards. I know a bit about it. People are hooked on pills and you'd never convince them they could do without em. Loads of people are on meds that don't suit em and have been for years. Others that should be on meds aren't. I think we all know who they are. It's a real mess, the future is bleak. It's dark outside, cold inside and the roof is spinning and it's all down to you the reader. You and your black black thoughts summoning up the demons into the sugar bowl. Clouds in your pillowcase fart from your ears. Shambo shambo! We should never flip the pancakes, it's all coming from the radio anyway. Moses will bring it with his champagne chocolate sandals. Oh yes he will. Hallelujah sweet baby plankton.

Yeah, the issues with children is alarming.

Kids need to play...to jump, to run, to climb, to sweat, to cry, to bleed, to tire out...

...nowadays there's no playtime. It's all about carefully-orchestrated "activities" and "clubs" and "playgroups" in padded rooms or playgrounds with padded grounds where the possibility of a bruised elbow is grounds for a lawsuit.

There is no such thing as "recess" in school anymore either.

Then there's also the practice of "electronic babysitting"...where children are plopped in front of a television/computer/monitor all day with videos to keep them from doing what children are supposed to be doing (jumping/climbing/sweating/etc.).

And when all those factors are summed up and result in kids with no attention span and ingrained angst, we medicate them and label them as abnormal.

Fonkyman said:

I'd say it's more like 99% of America.

Empress said:

I think you know exactly who I'm talking about on this site. I don't get involved in his posts but I know mental illness when I see it or in this case when I read it.

You know mental illness can run in the family don't ya? You can't make a 'diagnosis' from reading some posts on the interweb. People post in all kinds of states for all kinds of reasons. I've posted on here plenty of times myself after all night sessions of drugs and alcohol. Who'd have guessed?

While there are serious cases all over the world Western society especially seems to love diagnosing people with something or other more and more. When I was a kid you had 'little fuckers'. Now they're misdiagnosed as ADHD, ADD or 'a bit autistic' or some other bollocks at the drop of a hat.

I know someone that has a little fucker. She can't be arsed to discipline her kids properly. She took him to a Doc who readily 'diagnosed' him with something or other and bosh, he's on the smarties.

Then there's the Adults. I know someone that's bang on anti-depressants that doesn't really need them. They're not clinically depressed as far as I can see, though I'm no trick cyclist. I've spent time with the mentally ill and mentally handicapped on psychiatric wards. I know a bit about it. People are hooked on pills and you'd never convince them they could do without em. Loads of people are on meds that don't suit em and have been for years. Others that should be on meds aren't. I think we all know who they are. It's a real mess, the future is bleak. It's dark outside, cold inside and the roof is spinning and it's all down to you the reader. You and your black black thoughts summoning up the demons into the sugar bowl. Clouds in your pillowcase fart from your ears. Shambo shambo! We should never flip the pancakes, it's all coming from the radio anyway. Moses will bring it with his champagne chocolate sandals. Oh yes he will. Hallelujah sweet baby plankton.

I can certainly appreciate what you're saying. I'm quite familiar with mental illness. As I said, I have some family members and a couple of friends that suffer with it. I know how hard it can be and sometimes meds are not the answer. But, I will maintain that people need to get help and if possible they have to try to lead a productive life. I'm also not an advocate of airing all your personal problems on the internet to people that are basically strangers. I believe it can be very harmful. For the people that I know that suffer with mental illness, most of them will tell me they were in denial for a very long time. Some didn't want take meds for fear of turning into a "zombie" and others were over medicated and that lead to more problems. I believe we all have a little instability in us, but some of us choose to do what we can to get help. Some people sink deeper into oblivion because they try to get help from the wrong sources or don't get help at all.

I don't believe people should be shut away or kept out of the public, but I do believe in taking ownership for your life and making the absolute best of it.

PurpleJedi said:

Yeah, the issues with children is alarming.

Kids need to play...to jump, to run, to climb, to sweat, to cry, to bleed, to tire out...

...nowadays there's no playtime. It's all about carefully-orchestrated "activities" and "clubs" and "playgroups" in padded rooms or playgrounds with padded grounds where the possibility of a bruised elbow is grounds for a lawsuit.

There is no such thing as "recess" in school anymore either.

Then there's also the practice of "electronic babysitting"...where children are plopped in front of a television/computer/monitor all day with videos to keep them from doing what children are supposed to be doing (jumping/climbing/sweating/etc.).

And when all those factors are summed up and result in kids with no attention span and ingrained angst, we medicate them and label them as abnormal.

Scary eh.

Fonkyman said:

I'd say it's more like 99% of America.

Empress said:

I think you know exactly who I'm talking about on this site. I don't get involved in his posts but I know mental illness when I see it or in this case when I read it.

Empress said:

I can certainly appreciate what you're saying. I'm quite familiar with mental illness. As I said, I have some family members and a couple of friends that suffer with it.

Have you ever thought it might be down to you? ... I'm kidding!

I know how hard it can be and sometimes meds are not the answer.

True. Sometimes they're the only answer. It's down to proper diagnosis and treatment.

But, I will maintain that people need to get help and if possible they have to try to lead a productive life.

Definitely.

I'm also not an advocate of airing all your personal problems on the internet to people that are basically strangers. I believe it can be very harmful.

Can be. Depends how genuine it is. It's not the place to seek medical attention.

For the people that I know that suffer with mental illness, most of them will tell me they were in denial for a very long time. Some didn't want take meds for fear of turning into a "zombie" and others were over medicated and that lead to more problems. I believe we all have a little instability in us, but some of us choose to do what we can to get help.

Some people sink deeper into oblivion because they try to get help from the wrong sources or don't get help at all.

There's definitely plenty of that.

I don't believe people should be shut away or kept out of the public,

Nor do I.

but I do believe in taking ownership for your life and making the absolute best of it.

If you're in a position to, yeah.

Is sociopathic behavior considered insanity? I know a lot of sociopaths, so are they lunatics, too? Yesterday I was in the hospital lab having some blood work done, and the man sitting next to me was having a quite lively discussion with the air. All of the other patients waiting just ignored him, me included.

Since I live in a large metropolitan area, I see a lot of obviously mentally disturbed folk walking the streets. I'm not sure if America has more insane people than any other country. I believe the entire world coould use a mental makeover myself. Hell, sometimes I think I'm ready for the loony bin my damn self.

Shyra said:

Is sociopathic behavior considered insanity? I know a lot of sociopaths, so are they lunatics, too? Yesterday I was in the hospital lab having some blood work done, and the man sitting next to me was having a quite lively discussion with the air. All of the other patients waiting just ignored him, me included.

Since I live in a large metropolitan area, I see a lot of obviously mentally disturbed folk walking the streets. I'm not sure if America has more insane people than any other country. I believe the entire world coould use a mental makeover myself. Hell, sometimes I think I'm ready for the loony bin my damn self.

I lived in New Orleans for a while and there really isn't a program set up for mental health patients that need assistant living- at least not enough of it. They don't do well went put in an subsidized apartment by themselves. They don't remember to take their meds or pay their bills etc. They need assistant living. I would have a pills-on-wheels program for them if I could. I met several and they don't take their meds regularly and when they run out they don't go and get refills. They consistently stop seeing their shrink also.

ZombieKitten said:

Niacin for depressions, how much was it again macdaddy? 3000mg or 3000iu?

3000mg or as much as it takes.

Check out this:

Niacin can be found in, Spirulina, almonds and seeds, wheat products, beans, rice bran, green leafy vegetables, carrots, turnips, celery, lean red meat, fish, organ meats (kidney, liver), prawns, and pork.

Is Niacin for people who are on the really deep end?

iaminparties said:

Is Niacin for people who are on the really deep end?

Niacin is something no one can go without. It should be included in your diet any which way possible. When taken in large doses it is known to have cured people from severe depressions.

MacDaddy said:

iaminparties said:

Is Niacin for people who are on the really deep end?

Niacin is something no one can go without. It should be included in your diet any which way possible. When taken in large doses it is known to have cured people from severe depressions.

I am loving this stuff you are writing MacDaddy!!!!!

Honestly, I went to a psychiatrist a few months ago and he said that I may have been misdiagnosed with BiPolar II disorder. I truly believe that every single person that is in a deep enough funk to seek professional help and antidepressants should also seek out a nutritionist.

Deadflow3r said:

MacDaddy said:

Niacin is something no one can go without. It should be included in your diet any which way possible. When taken in large doses it is known to have cured people from severe depressions.

I am loving this stuff you are writing MacDaddy!!!!!

Honestly, I went to a psychiatrist a few months ago and he said that I may have been misdiagnosed with BiPolar II disorder. I truly believe that every single person that is in a deep enough funk to seek professional help and antidepressants should also seek out a nutritionist.

I would never suggest NOT seeing a professional, but do some research on foods and go see that nutritionist as well.

MacDaddy said:

Deadflow3r said:

I am loving this stuff you are writing MacDaddy!!!!!

Honestly, I went to a psychiatrist a few months ago and he said that I may have been misdiagnosed with BiPolar II disorder. I truly believe that every single person that is in a deep enough funk to seek professional help and antidepressants should also seek out a nutritionist.

I would never suggest NOT seeing a professional, but do some research on foods and go see that nutritionist as well.

Yes, it should go hand in hand. I have been given pharmaceuticals by the doctors as samples that they were given by the manufacturers. There is an incentive for the Doctors to give out drugs but not one for suggesting you seek nutritional counseling. There is plenty of research, especially on children and food, to show evidence of food sensitivities causing behavioral changes.

MacDaddy said:

iaminparties said:

Is Niacin for people who are on the really deep end?

Niacin is something no one can go without. It should be included in your diet any which way possible. When taken in large doses it is known to have cured people from severe depressions.

I'd never heard of that.

let's not forget the pharmaceutical industry does have a vested interest (billions of $$$$) in seeing all of us diagnosed with something they can toss drugs at

XxAxX said:

let's not forget the pharmaceutical industry does have a vested interest (billions of $$$$) in seeing all of us diagnosed with something they can toss drugs at

Nah...no way.

XxAxX said:

let's not forget the pharmaceutical industry does have a vested interest (billions of $$$$) in seeing all of us diagnosed with something they can toss drugs at

You got that right. I think they're more powerful than the oil rich.

Empress said:

XxAxX said:

let's not forget the pharmaceutical industry does have a vested interest (billions of $$$$) in seeing all of us diagnosed with something they can toss drugs at

You got that right. I think they're more powerful than the oil rich.

Empress said:

XxAxX said:

let's not forget the pharmaceutical industry does have a vested interest (billions of $$$$) in seeing all of us diagnosed with something they can toss drugs at

You got that right. I think they're more powerful than the oil rich.

a friend of mine made a major complaint against her doctor for prescribing a medicine with one of several side effects. one effect being coughing. well the friend has a history of bronchial colds that had sometimes led to bronchitis and minor asthma ( bronchial illnesses cause major coughing).

when this friend started major coughing after taking the med. she then went online and googled the med just to find out a group of people had started a lawsuit against the issuing pharmaceutical company regarding the coughing side effect of the med.

anyway when the doctor was confronted by the (friend) patient with inquires about issuing the med to her, someone who had a history of bronchial illnesses, the doctor only replied, "all meds have side effects." the doctor did not offer an alternative prescription. as a result the doctor was forced into early retirement.

the med is called Lisinopril - it's prescribed for high blood pressure.

so in conclusion xxAxS, i agree with your pov.

see link titled: Do Drug Company Perks Influence Doctors?

:http://abcnews.go.com/Pri...aTn_tLVAuc

this article just goes to show you how the pharma companies have a great hold and influence on how some doctors fail their patients and may well contribute to their mental and physical illnesses.

but hey more importantly, "there's money to be made."

that should be added as an amendment to hypocratic oath "taken by physicians and other healthcare professionals swearing to practice medicine honestly."

^^^

You know...I've mentioned this before...YEARS ago I went to my doctor and mentioned that I get bad sinus headaches with post-nasal drip around allergy season. Not much in the way of sneezing and all that (it happens but not a lot)....I was getting these HORRIBLE sinus headaches and sometimes would wake up nauseous & even vomited from the post-nasal drip.

He handed me a prescription for Allegra.

I said; "I want to clean my sinuses."

He said; "They don't do that anymore."



So let's not deal with the congestion in my sinus cavity...let's just pop pills to stop the sneezing & stuffy nose.

I bought a Neti pot to try to wash out my sinuses myself, but I'm too scared to try it (since reading out the person that used tap water and died from a brain-eating amoeba).

PurpleJedi said:

^^^

You know...I've mentioned this before...YEARS ago I went to my doctor and mentioned that I get bad sinus headaches with post-nasal drip around allergy season. Not much in the way of sneezing and all that (it happens but not a lot)....I was getting these HORRIBLE sinus headaches and sometimes would wake up nauseous & even vomited from the post-nasal drip.

He handed me a prescription for Allegra.

I said; "I want to clean my sinuses."

He said; "They don't do that anymore."



So let's not deal with the congestion in my sinus cavity...let's just pop pills to stop the sneezing & stuffy nose.

I bought a Neti pot to try to wash out my sinuses myself, but I'm too scared to try it (since reading out the person that used tap water and died from a brain-eating amoeba).

neti pot water:

either boil the tap water - in glass container (you can make the water boil in micro wave)

and let it cool

or use distilled water.

washing the sinuses is a healthy practice.

free2bfreeda said:

PurpleJedi said:

^^^

You know...I've mentioned this before...YEARS ago I went to my doctor and mentioned that I get bad sinus headaches with post-nasal drip around allergy season. Not much in the way of sneezing and all that (it happens but not a lot)....I was getting these HORRIBLE sinus headaches and sometimes would wake up nauseous & even vomited from the post-nasal drip.

He handed me a prescription for Allegra.

I said; "I want to clean my sinuses."

He said; "They don't do that anymore."



So let's not deal with the congestion in my sinus cavity...let's just pop pills to stop the sneezing & stuffy nose.

I bought a Neti pot to try to wash out my sinuses myself, but I'm too scared to try it (since reading out the person that used tap water and died from a brain-eating amoeba).

neti pot water:

either boil the tap water - in glass container (you can make the water boil in micro wave)

and let it cool

or use distilled water.

washing the sinuses is a healthy practice.

In moderation. Over doing it can cause problems.

Im the craziest sane fuck here

The real crazy ones dont even know they''re crazy.My schizo friends.

iaminparties said:

Im the craziest sane fuck here

The real crazy ones dont even know they''re crazy.My schizo friends.

free2bfreeda said:

iaminparties said:

Im the craziest sane fuck here

The real crazy ones dont even know they''re crazy.My schizo friends.

My best friend is Walter.A 63 year old shizophrenic.He worked for CIA,in his mind.He can name every gun imaginable.

PurpleJedi said:

^^^

You know...I've mentioned this before...YEARS ago I went to my doctor and mentioned that I get bad sinus headaches with post-nasal drip around allergy season. Not much in the way of sneezing and all that (it happens but not a lot)....I was getting these HORRIBLE sinus headaches and sometimes would wake up nauseous & even vomited from the post-nasal drip.

He handed me a prescription for Allegra.

I said; "I want to clean my sinuses."

He said; "They don't do that anymore."



So let's not deal with the congestion in my sinus cavity...let's just pop pills to stop the sneezing & stuffy nose.

I bought a Neti pot to try to wash out my sinuses myself, but I'm too scared to try it (since reading out the person that used tap water and died from a brain-eating amoeba).

As one who suffers from allergies and sinus problems your biggest ally is water! I too get migraines from my sinus's, i vomit all day long the pain gets so bad...

I find if I keep VERY hydrated I dont have these problems... And if you keep your secretions thinned because you are hydrated you should never have to use a neti pot...

And yes, allergy medicine will help!!!

tinaz said:

PurpleJedi said:

^^^

You know...I've mentioned this before...YEARS ago I went to my doctor and mentioned that I get bad sinus headaches with post-nasal drip around allergy season. Not much in the way of sneezing and all that (it happens but not a lot)....I was getting these HORRIBLE sinus headaches and sometimes would wake up nauseous & even vomited from the post-nasal drip.

He handed me a prescription for Allegra.

I said; "I want to clean my sinuses."

He said; "They don't do that anymore."



So let's not deal with the congestion in my sinus cavity...let's just pop pills to stop the sneezing & stuffy nose.

I bought a Neti pot to try to wash out my sinuses myself, but I'm too scared to try it (since reading out the person that used tap water and died from a brain-eating amoeba).

As one who suffers from allergies and sinus problems your biggest ally is water! I too get migraines from my sinus's, i vomit all day long the pain gets so bad...

I find if I keep VERY hydrated I dont have these problems... And if you keep your secretions thinned because you are hydrated you should never have to use a neti pot...

I do have a problem with hydration. Can never remember to drink water.

Well as some of you know, any thread on being crazy is my kind of topic!

When I left my family behind in Massachusetts and moved to New Orleans I went by a different name and I knew no one there. Everyone I had known had left the city after Katrina (I myself had left before then, in 2002).

So not only was everyone new to me but they also didn't know or hear from any one that I had known in Massachusetts. None of them thought that I was crazy and I was no longer taking meds the doctors had perscribed. I made few if any enemies and was well liked and respected.

I honestly believe now it was in the best interest of a family member to make me feel crazy and to portray me to others as the "crazy one". Some people will purposely unnerve you. My drastic choice to leave everyone behind and move by myself to New Orleans was the best thing that I could have done. It showed me who I was and what I was made of and no one can take that away from me.