NDRU said:

Oh, and does anyone know what the hidden healing powers of Jell-o are? They practically force that shit down your throat at the fucking hospital! I thought if I did not eat it they would hook some up to my IV

i'm so glad you're okay yeah hospitals and surgery suck. why can't they have tasty stuff to eat there? why do they have to make the hospital experience worse???

NDRU said:

nd33 said:

Burst appendix is no joke!

My workmates friend went to bed with pain down there and by the morning, they were DEAD. Poisoned from ruptured appendix.

I had mine out 4 years ago. Had pain late on a Tuesday night which got worse and worse. Couldn't sleep. Went to the doc first thing in the morn and she sent me straight to the hospital. I was operated on later that day, which was all good and smooth and paid for by the New Zealand government.

I then enjoyed another couple of days sitting in hopsital, buzzing out, eating morphine, was cool

yeah I am pretty lucky because I am generally not quick to call the doctor, and they said mine burst quicker than normal. I got there just in time, really.

I don't know if yours burst, but I think because mine did that the two days afterward were horrible because of the bad stuff that got into my body. I was sicker than I've ever felt. I expected what you had--two days of relaxing, and some pain, but it was the opposite; not much pain and terrible sickness.

Good heavens! I am glad your ordeal is over and you're on the mend. I hate being in the hospital.

XxAxX said:

NDRU said:

Oh, and does anyone know what the hidden healing powers of Jell-o are? They practically force that shit down your throat at the fucking hospital! I thought if I did not eat it they would hook some up to my IV

i'm so glad you're okay yeah hospitals and surgery suck. why can't they have tasty stuff to eat there? why do they have to make the hospital experience worse???

because surgery is a MAJOR stress on the body and when its stressed systems shut down.. one of the 1st things that shut down is the digestive system... Which explains jello and bland food and having to fart or poop before you can be released

Shyra said:

Best wishes for continued good recovery. I've had two friends suffer with appendicitis, and they both said the pain was unbearable and would bring one to their knees. If ever I get a pain on my right lower abdomen, I won't wait to see if it gets better. I'll take my ass straight to the ER. I know burst appendix will take you out if not treated.

Thanks. Definitely be aware, but hopefully you'll never need to test your awareness! It never occured to me that it could be my appendix!

I keep thinking how lucky I am that I got there in time. I think that if someone had been with me that first night that they'd have made me call the doctor. The pain was insane, but I just kept thinking it would pass.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

OMG! I had this and it is TERRIBLE. Horrifying really. Glad you are healing NDRU!!!

You feel my pain!

I have not had much pain since the surgery, since I have taken it so easy, but I went for a drive today and the bumping was not too comfy. I am still damaged goods!

tinaz said:

XxAxX said:

i'm so glad you're okay yeah hospitals and surgery suck. why can't they have tasty stuff to eat there? why do they have to make the hospital experience worse???

because surgery is a MAJOR stress on the body and when its stressed systems shut down.. one of the 1st things that shut down is the digestive system... Which explains jello and bland food and having to fart or poop before you can be released

well that is the truth! I was totally shut down for two days. I could not digest a sip of water. It got to where I would sip some water and just spit it out so that I could taste it, but not get sick.

In addition to the Jello question, I had some other observations on my stay in the hospital.

1. When will hospitals take note of the fact that robes tend to work better when they fasten in the front?

2. Why do hospitals think that sleep is not needed to heal? Those fools wake you up all night long! One gives you a shot. One takes your temp & blood pressure. One asks how you feel. "I feel tired!"

3. How can a person feel better in an environment with no natural light or fresh air?

4. Do "powerful antibiotics" sound like something that could possibly be good for a biological life form?

5. Shouldn't they maybe include yogurt in their lunches? Antibiotics could use a little balancing out.

One very strange thing that I noticed. It took me a while to even realize. It was absolute hell there. I was in pain, sick, tired, and uncomfortable, and I miss the fucking place!

After a lot of thought, I have decided that it's because they took care of me. As adults, we rarely get to relinquish control completely, and for 3 days I did just that. I had a team of compassionate people taking care of my every need, and I was able to be at my very worst--my most vulnerable, my weakest, my ugliest, my dirtiest, without any real courtesy, without smiling, shirking any responsibility to the outside world--without anyone judging me. That is something I have not had since I was a kid.

Has anyone else ever experienced this?

NDRU said:

One very strange thing that I noticed. It took me a while to even realize. It was absolute hell there. I was in pain, sick, tired, and uncomfortable, and I miss the fucking place!

After a lot of thought, I have decided that it's because they took care of me. As adults, we rarely get to relinquish control completely, and for 3 days I did just that. I had a team of compassionate people taking care of my every need, and I was able to be at my very worst--my most vulnerable, my weakest, my ugliest, my dirtiest, without any real courtesy, without smiling, shirking any responsibility to the outside world--without anyone judging me. That is something I have not had since I was a kid.

Has anyone else ever experienced this?

They met all your emotional needs as well, not just the physical.

NDRU said:

In addition to the Jello question, I had some other observations on my stay in the hospital.

1. When will hospitals take note of the fact that robes tend to work better when they fasten in the front?

If you wear one with the opening to the back, you wear anouther with the opening in the front..VIOLA!

2. Why do hospitals think that sleep is not needed to heal? Those fools wake you up all night long! One gives you a shot. One takes your temp & blood pressure. One asks how you feel. "I feel tired!"

This one still boggles me!

3. How can a person feel better in an environment with no natural light or fresh air?

Germs! Operating rooms must be sterile!!

4. Do "powerful antibiotics" sound like something that could possibly be good for a biological life form?

Hey, they work!

5. Shouldn't they maybe include yogurt in their lunches? Antibiotics could use a little balancing out.

Most times antibiotics bind with dairy products.. rendering them usless!

NDRU said:

In addition to the Jello question, I had some other observations on my stay in the hospital.

1. When will hospitals take note of the fact that robes tend to work better when they fasten in the front?

2. Why do hospitals think that sleep is not needed to heal? Those fools wake you up all night long! One gives you a shot. One takes your temp & blood pressure. One asks how you feel. "I feel tired!"

3. How can a person feel better in an environment with no natural light or fresh air?

4. Do "powerful antibiotics" sound like something that could possibly be good for a biological life form?

5. Shouldn't they maybe include yogurt in their lunches? Antibiotics could use a little balancing out.

been saying this for years. in fact, due to the difficulty in simply even resting in a hospital environment, i'm almost glad that medical doctors are requiring more 'same day' surgeries and 'outpatient' surgeries. which means no stay in the hospital overnight.

once when i had surgery, the lady in the bed next to me died. i kid you not i awoke in the iddle of the night to the sound of the crash cart being wheeled into the room, lights went on bang! and a team began working on her.

i asked what was happening and a nurse gave me something in my IV so i went to sleep, fast. next day, empty bed, all fresh and white, sooooo weird. i almost preferred the other time i shared a room with a lady who was up moaning with pain all night or watching really loud TV. at least i knew she was alive. i will never understand why recovering patients have to share rooms with strangers. my god...

and about the food? there should be recovery homes where a person can really heal. the hospital is NOT a place for healing, imo. gah

NDRU said:

One very strange thing that I noticed. It took me a while to even realize. It was absolute hell there. I was in pain, sick, tired, and uncomfortable, and I miss the fucking place!

After a lot of thought, I have decided that it's because they took care of me. As adults, we rarely get to relinquish control completely, and for 3 days I did just that. I had a team of compassionate people taking care of my every need, and I was able to be at my very worst--my most vulnerable, my weakest, my ugliest, my dirtiest, without any real courtesy, without smiling, shirking any responsibility to the outside world--without anyone judging me. That is something I have not had since I was a kid.

Has anyone else ever experienced this?

well.... when i'm feeling ugly dirty, rude, scowly, i find that having other peopple around me is annoying. i don't want others around me. i want them to leave me alone so i found the nurses pretty hard to take. they'd wake me up when i was sleeping to see if i was okay!!!!!


maybe if it had been a spa, or something, with nice soothing music (not alarm bells and constant ringing phones down the hall) , fragrant breezes (not disinfectant and poo) and happy gentle people (not stressed out, overworked nurses at the end of their shift), i might have felt good about it but..... the experience simply stressed me out. i hate hospitals

XxAxX said:

NDRU said:

One very strange thing that I noticed. It took me a while to even realize. It was absolute hell there. I was in pain, sick, tired, and uncomfortable, and I miss the fucking place!

After a lot of thought, I have decided that it's because they took care of me. As adults, we rarely get to relinquish control completely, and for 3 days I did just that. I had a team of compassionate people taking care of my every need, and I was able to be at my very worst--my most vulnerable, my weakest, my ugliest, my dirtiest, without any real courtesy, without smiling, shirking any responsibility to the outside world--without anyone judging me. That is something I have not had since I was a kid.

Has anyone else ever experienced this?

well.... when i'm feeling ugly dirty, rude, scowly, i find that having other peopple around me is annoying. i don't want others around me. i want them to leave me alone so i found the nurses pretty hard to take. they'd wake me up when i was sleeping to see if i was okay!!!!!


maybe if it had been a spa, or something, with nice soothing music (not alarm bells and constant ringing phones down the hall) , fragrant breezes (not disinfectant and poo) and happy gentle people (not stressed out, overworked nurses at the end of their shift), i might have felt good about it but..... the experience simply stressed me out. i hate hospitals

Yes, it was not a spa. I hated the experience and I never want to go back. It's a highly disturbing thing to me, actually, that I feel this way. But it's true.

Did you know that nausea is one of the side effects of anti-nausea medication?

ZombieKitten said:

NDRU said:

One very strange thing that I noticed. It took me a while to even realize. It was absolute hell there. I was in pain, sick, tired, and uncomfortable, and I miss the fucking place!

After a lot of thought, I have decided that it's because they took care of me. As adults, we rarely get to relinquish control completely, and for 3 days I did just that. I had a team of compassionate people taking care of my every need, and I was able to be at my very worst--my most vulnerable, my weakest, my ugliest, my dirtiest, without any real courtesy, without smiling, shirking any responsibility to the outside world--without anyone judging me. That is something I have not had since I was a kid.

Has anyone else ever experienced this?

They met all your emotional needs as well, not just the physical.

I wouldn't say they met ALL of them

NDRU said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

OMG! I had this and it is TERRIBLE. Horrifying really. Glad you are healing NDRU!!!

You feel my pain!

I have not had much pain since the surgery, since I have taken it so easy, but I went for a drive today and the bumping was not too comfy. I am still damaged goods!

Actually I had recurring appendicitis for 5 years. 14 attacks in all. Some attacks were monstrous and the last one that sent me into surgery wasn't even the worst attack that I had but all of them were absolutely heinous. That last one I was awake for 3 days straight from the pain.

In my case, my appendix was disintigrating so instead of bursting, the appendix would become inflamed and then release the poison like time-release. It was enough to make me violently ill (like you described) but not enough to kill me. Miracle I survived it because I had no idea what it was.

HAPPY you got that shit out!

NDRU said:

One very strange thing that I noticed. It took me a while to even realize. It was absolute hell there. I was in pain, sick, tired, and uncomfortable, and I miss the fucking place!

After a lot of thought, I have decided that it's because they took care of me. As adults, we rarely get to relinquish control completely, and for 3 days I did just that. I had a team of compassionate people taking care of my every need, and I was able to be at my very worst--my most vulnerable, my weakest, my ugliest, my dirtiest, without any real courtesy, without smiling, shirking any responsibility to the outside world--without anyone judging me. That is something I have not had since I was a kid.

Has anyone else ever experienced this?

ha ha, when this happened to me all care went out the window and it felt so vital to be cared for that I could care less that the nurses saw me nude

I saw one of my nurses a few months later at the grocery store and thanked her with tears flowing down my face for taking care of me. It made her cry

The gown conundrum...If you are laying on your gown there is no access to your body should you crash, hence the opening in the back and all the snaps.

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I recently saw an article that said that someone has come up with a new design of hospital gown, but like anything else in medicine, it will likely take a very long time to come into wide-spread use.

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There are so many things that can happen unexpectedly when you've had a major surgery, that is why they come around at all hours to check even when you are asleep.

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Being in the hospital is one of the most stressful things in life. It is a HUGE invasion of your privacy and space. Couple that with people who are at their very worst, like ya'll mentioned, sick, dirty, ugly etc. Don't think your nursing staff doesn't know that. It's what they do and where they live. There are good and bad nurses for sure, but many of them just want to get done what needs to get done as quickly and minimally invasively as possible.

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Don't even get me started on staffing.

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I love nurses when I'm a patient. When I'm working with them I have to remember how much I love them when I'm a patient.

Nothinbutjoy said:

The gown conundrum...If you are laying on your gown there is no access to your body should you crash, hence the opening in the back and all the snaps.

.

I recently saw an article that said that someone has come up with a new design of hospital gown, but like anything else in medicine, it will likely take a very long time to come into wide-spread use.

.

There are so many things that can happen unexpectedly when you've had a major surgery, that is why they come around at all hours to check even when you are asleep.

.

Being in the hospital is one of the most stressful things in life. It is a HUGE invasion of your privacy and space. Couple that with people who are at their very worst, like ya'll mentioned, sick, dirty, ugly etc. Don't think your nursing staff doesn't know that. It's what they do and where they live. There are good and bad nurses for sure, but many of them just want to get done what needs to get done as quickly and minimally invasively as possible.

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Don't even get me started on staffing.

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I love nurses when I'm a patient. When I'm working with them I have to remember how much I love them when I'm a patient.

the time i most appreciate my medical crare and treatment providers is when i am recovered and up and about. i did make a point of thanking those who cared for me. i do understand it is a really hard job sorry i am so ungrateful

XxAxX said:

Nothinbutjoy said:

The gown conundrum...If you are laying on your gown there is no access to your body should you crash, hence the opening in the back and all the snaps.

.

I recently saw an article that said that someone has come up with a new design of hospital gown, but like anything else in medicine, it will likely take a very long time to come into wide-spread use.

.

There are so many things that can happen unexpectedly when you've had a major surgery, that is why they come around at all hours to check even when you are asleep.

.

Being in the hospital is one of the most stressful things in life. It is a HUGE invasion of your privacy and space. Couple that with people who are at their very worst, like ya'll mentioned, sick, dirty, ugly etc. Don't think your nursing staff doesn't know that. It's what they do and where they live. There are good and bad nurses for sure, but many of them just want to get done what needs to get done as quickly and minimally invasively as possible.

.

Don't even get me started on staffing.

.

I love nurses when I'm a patient. When I'm working with them I have to remember how much I love them when I'm a patient.

the time i most appreciate my medical crare and treatment providers is when i am recovered and up and about. i did make a point of thanking those who cared for me. i do understand it is a really hard job sorry i am so ungrateful

No guilt. Just something to think about. If I didn't work in a hospital, I wouldn't have any idea.

XxAxX said:

NDRU said:

XxAxX said:

the time i most appreciate my medical crare and treatment providers is when i am recovered and up and about. i did make a point of thanking those who cared for me. i do understand it is a really hard job sorry i am so ungrateful

They saved my life, so I definitely appreciate them. And the nurses were very compassionate. But the hospital experience could definitely be improved upon. In fact I am sure some hospitals already have.

Patients where I work call us "The Hotel". We have room service and many other hotel-like services. It's nice in a way, but not nice in a way.

XxAxX said:

NDRU said:

In addition to the Jello question, I had some other observations on my stay in the hospital.

1. When will hospitals take note of the fact that robes tend to work better when they fasten in the front?

2. Why do hospitals think that sleep is not needed to heal? Those fools wake you up all night long! One gives you a shot. One takes your temp & blood pressure. One asks how you feel. "I feel tired!"

3. How can a person feel better in an environment with no natural light or fresh air?

4. Do "powerful antibiotics" sound like something that could possibly be good for a biological life form?

5. Shouldn't they maybe include yogurt in their lunches? Antibiotics could use a little balancing out.

been saying this for years. in fact, due to the difficulty in simply even resting in a hospital environment, i'm almost glad that medical doctors are requiring more 'same day' surgeries and 'outpatient' surgeries. which means no stay in the hospital overnight.

once when i had surgery, the lady in the bed next to me died. i kid you not i awoke in the iddle of the night to the sound of the crash cart being wheeled into the room, lights went on bang! and a team began working on her.

i asked what was happening and a nurse gave me something in my IV so i went to sleep, fast. next day, empty bed, all fresh and white, sooooo weird. i almost preferred the other time i shared a room with a lady who was up moaning with pain all night or watching really loud TV. at least i knew she was alive. i will never understand why recovering patients have to share rooms with strangers. my god...

and about the food? there should be recovery homes where a person can really heal. the hospital is NOT a place for healing, imo. gah

The last time I was hospitalized the poor old lady next to me kept gagging all day! Ewww. I literally went to the desk and paid cash to be upgraded to a private room. Thankfully it was only for one night because it was 175 bucks.

Nothinbutjoy said:

NDRU said:

XxAxX said: They saved my life, so I definitely appreciate them. And the nurses were very compassionate. But the hospital experience could definitely be improved upon. In fact I am sure some hospitals already have.

Patients where I work call us "The Hotel". We have room service and many other hotel-like services. It's nice in a way, but not nice in a way.

I'm grateful because I've always had good nurses. It's been hit or miss with the housekeeping staff though.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

NDRU said:

One very strange thing that I noticed. It took me a while to even realize. It was absolute hell there. I was in pain, sick, tired, and uncomfortable, and I miss the fucking place!

After a lot of thought, I have decided that it's because they took care of me. As adults, we rarely get to relinquish control completely, and for 3 days I did just that. I had a team of compassionate people taking care of my every need, and I was able to be at my very worst--my most vulnerable, my weakest, my ugliest, my dirtiest, without any real courtesy, without smiling, shirking any responsibility to the outside world--without anyone judging me. That is something I have not had since I was a kid.

Has anyone else ever experienced this?

ha ha, when this happened to me all care went out the window and it felt so vital to be cared for that I could care less that the nurses saw me nude

I saw one of my nurses a few months later at the grocery store and thanked her with tears flowing down my face for taking care of me. It made her cry

i feel so disloyal for being snarky about hospitals. my mom is a retired nurse. she was great at her job. she told me stories of her patients who thanked her and it really meant a lot to her that they did that. she worked in the bone marrow transplant unit at the UofM, so about two thirds of her patients did not survive the process. my mom told me about dreaming that one of her ICU patients said good bye to her, and went to work that day to find she had passed...

anyway, nurses are good people who care.

babynoz said:

XxAxX said:

been saying this for years. in fact, due to the difficulty in simply even resting in a hospital environment, i'm almost glad that medical doctors are requiring more 'same day' surgeries and 'outpatient' surgeries. which means no stay in the hospital overnight.

once when i had surgery, the lady in the bed next to me died. i kid you not i awoke in the iddle of the night to the sound of the crash cart being wheeled into the room, lights went on bang! and a team began working on her.

i asked what was happening and a nurse gave me something in my IV so i went to sleep, fast. next day, empty bed, all fresh and white, sooooo weird. i almost preferred the other time i shared a room with a lady who was up moaning with pain all night or watching really loud TV. at least i knew she was alive. i will never understand why recovering patients have to share rooms with strangers. my god...

and about the food? there should be recovery homes where a person can really heal. the hospital is NOT a place for healing, imo. gah

The last time I was hospitalized the poor old lady next to me kept gagging all day! Ewww. I literally went to the desk and paid cash to be upgraded to a private room. Thankfully it was only for one night because it was 175 bucks.

i tried. i tried in advance to get a single room; i tried right before to get a single room; i tried after.... to no avail. even if i had paid the difference they said they had no extra beds. they had their reasons

XxAxX said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ha ha, when this happened to me all care went out the window and it felt so vital to be cared for that I could care less that the nurses saw me nude

I saw one of my nurses a few months later at the grocery store and thanked her with tears flowing down my face for taking care of me. It made her cry

i feel so disloyal for being snarky about hospitals. my mom is a retired nurse. she was great at her job. she told me stories of her patients who thanked her and it really meant a lot to her that they did that. she worked in the bone marrow transplant unit at the UofM, so about two thirds of her patients did not survive the process. my mom told me about dreaming that one of her ICU patients said good bye to her, and went to work that day to find she had passed...

anyway, nurses are good people who care.

Yes, the nurses and doctors were just fine (particularly the nurses). I think the issue must be with hospital administrators, who don't deal directly with patients. They are the ones who make the place an efficient business that effectively deals with sickness while staying profitable.

I don't doubt that the doctors & nurses would be fine instituting changes that would make their patients more comfortable, but it's likely not their choice.

I'm a terrible patient when hospitalized. I am quick to cuss and fuss. I tend to get stupid ass nurse assistants whenever I'm in the hospital. I remember one instance when I knew I was going to vomit and asked the assistant for something to spew in. She just stood there and looked at me while I threw up all over myself and the bed. Another time I was in hospital after a mastectomy so I was pretty heavily medicated a lot of the time, but one instance the drugs must have been wearing off because I awoke to this woman sponging my twat! WTF??? I asked her what the hell she was doing and she said that she was bathing me. I asked her why, and she said, "We always wash the woman's privates after she's given birth." BITCH! I'm forty fucking six years old! I didn't have no damn baby! I reported her to the head nurse thinking she was some kind of freak. But the one thing that used to piss me off big time was when they would wake me up to give me a sleeping pill!

I do want to add that LPN's and full registered nurses are tops. They know what the hell they're doing and they do give you the impression that they genuinely care about your comfort and wellbeing. It's the lowly hourly wage earner that ticks me off because they just seem not to even give a rat's ass.

[Edited 5/16/13 14:56pm]

Shyra said:

I'm a terrible patient when hospitalized. I am quick to cuss and fuss. I tend to get stupid ass nurse assistants whenever I'm in the hospital. I remember one instance when I knew I was going to vomit and asked the assistant for something to spew in. She just stood there and looked at me while I threw up all over myself and the bed. Another time I was in hospital after a mastectomy so I was pretty heavily medicated a lot of the time, but one instance the drugs must have been wearing off because I awoke to this woman sponging my twat! WTF??? I asked her what the hell she was doing and she said that she was bathing me. I asked her why, and she said, "We always wash the woman's privates after she's given birth." BITCH! I'm forty fucking six years old! I didn't have no damn baby! I reported her to the head nurse thinking she was some kind of freak. But the one thing that used to piss me off big time was when they would wake me up to give me a sleeping pill!

I do want to add that LPN's and full registered nurses are tops. They know what the hell they're doing and they do give you the impression that they genuinely care about your comfort and wellbeing. It's the lowly hourly wage earner that ticks me off because they just seem not to even give a rat's ass.

[Edited 5/16/13 14:56pm]

holy crap. that has never happened to me thank god. sorry it happened to you, sorry to laugh but, i cannot help myself...

NDRU said:

XxAxX said:

i feel so disloyal for being snarky about hospitals. my mom is a retired nurse. she was great at her job. she told me stories of her patients who thanked her and it really meant a lot to her that they did that. she worked in the bone marrow transplant unit at the UofM, so about two thirds of her patients did not survive the process. my mom told me about dreaming that one of her ICU patients said good bye to her, and went to work that day to find she had passed...

anyway, nurses are good people who care.

Yes, the nurses and doctors were just fine (particularly the nurses). I think the issue must be with hospital administrators, who don't deal directly with patients. They are the ones who make the place an efficient business that effectively deals with sickness while staying profitable.

I don't doubt that the doctors & nurses would be fine instituting changes that would make their patients more comfortable, but it's likely not their choice.

someone should fill a growing need by creating halfway houses for recovering patients. get them out of the hospital to a 'house' type environment where they have a regular single room, and assisted living style health care providers. it would lessen the strain on the hospital staff and generate another, better place for healing. the patients could take online classes, there could be a traveling library and movie collection, lectures, massages, lunch and snack wagons with yummy fresh food, nice stuff like that for short and long term patients. like a nursing home spa salon.