Well, Revis Island has officially left NY and gone to Tampa Bay. Six years/$96mil, but NO guaranteed loot - WTF was Darrelle thinking signing a contract like that? It's all about guaranteed loot in the NFL. Dude's taking a big risk.

Love NFL Draft - it's my favorite part of the off-season. Giants need to bolster the offensive line and linebacker corps. We could use secondary help too.

Gary Myers has the Giants picking Alec Ogletree from Georgia at #19. He's the speed linebacker Big Blue desperately needs. Long as they don't pick slow ass Manti Te'o.

Is any team SERIOUSLY going to take Manti Te'o into consideration after all that nonsense???

PurpleJedi said:

Is any team SERIOUSLY going to take Manti Te'o into consideration after all that nonsense???

Let's be honest, there are NFL players who've done worse. I just don't think the dude's all that, definitely not worthy of being a first round pick. His poor performance against the cream of the crop in the championship game did it for me.

Giants pick OL Justin Pugh from Syracuse.

uPtoWnNY said:

Giants pick OL Justin Pugh from Syracuse.

6'-4" 307lbs at 22y.o.

Does anyone remember when 250lbs was considered "big"?

phunkdaddy said:

A lot of mock drafts have my steelers taking Jarvis Jones. The kid looks good but that little health issue with spinal stenosis scares me.

They picked him, but those heatlh issues are a red flag.

Even as an ND fan, I agree with uptownNY. Hoax aside, T'eo's performance in the BCS Title Game sealed his draft fate.

Not only was Chance Warmack able to get to the second level and lay blocks on him (ND's 3-4 was useless against the Tide Wall), but Lacy and Yeldon outran and ran over him. For the first time in his brilliant ND career, he looked average, and that projects terribly to the NFL. Hopefully it was just one game but he wasn't going anywhere until late 1st.

I winced every time ESPN tried to pump Manti as he fell. I think he could fit well as a system player, and perhaps even in nickel coverage, but his last game shows the jury's out because that's what every Sunday could look like for him. And I l-o-v-e the kid.

Otherwise, for all its supposed lack of starpower, this Draft -- and the next 2 rounds -- could be monumental for its depth of line and defensive prospects.

[Edited 4/26/13 11:35am]

namepeace said:

Even as an ND fan, I agree with uptownNY. Hoax aside, T'eo's performance in the BCS Title Game sealed his draft fate.

Not only was Chance Warmack able to get to the second level and lay blocks on him (ND's 3-4 was useless against the Tide Wall), but Lacy and Yeldon outran and ran over him. For the first time in his brilliant ND career, he looked average, and that projects terribly to the NFL. Hopefully it was just one game but he wasn't going anywhere until late 1st.

I winced every time ESPN tried to pump Manti as he fell. I think he could fit well as a system player, and perhaps even in nickel coverage, but his last game shows the jury's out because that's what every Sunday could look like for him. And I l-o-v-e the kid.

Otherwise, for all its supposed lack of starpower, this Draft -- and the next 2 rounds -- could be monumental for its depth of line and defensive prospects.

[Edited 4/26/13 11:35am]

Te'o's poor combine didn't help either.

This isn't a sexy draft in terms of skilled offensive players, but I call it a 'foundation' draft, where you can fortify both lines.

uPtoWnNY said:

namepeace said:

Even as an ND fan, I agree with uptownNY. Hoax aside, T'eo's performance in the BCS Title Game sealed his draft fate.

Not only was Chance Warmack able to get to the second level and lay blocks on him (ND's 3-4 was useless against the Tide Wall), but Lacy and Yeldon outran and ran over him. For the first time in his brilliant ND career, he looked average, and that projects terribly to the NFL. Hopefully it was just one game but he wasn't going anywhere until late 1st.

I winced every time ESPN tried to pump Manti as he fell. I think he could fit well as a system player, and perhaps even in nickel coverage, but his last game shows the jury's out because that's what every Sunday could look like for him. And I l-o-v-e the kid.

Otherwise, for all its supposed lack of starpower, this Draft -- and the next 2 rounds -- could be monumental for its depth of line and defensive prospects.

[Edited 4/26/13 11:35am]

Te'o's poor combine didn't help either.

This isn't a sexy draft in terms of skilled offensive players, but I call it a 'foundation' draft, where you can fortify both lines.

It is just that. I almost posted a "building" allusion . . . why renovate the kitchen and dining rooms and buy all manner of fancy furniture when the foundation is shaky?

With one exception: the New York Jets. They keep drafting defensive linemen . . . and get nowhere. They've built their team around a franchise player. Unfortunately, that franchise player is Tom Brady.

I have to concede as of now on paper the Cincinnati Bengals have the

best roster in the AFC North and it appears they are having a good draft.

namepeace said:

Even as an ND fan, I agree with uptownNY. Hoax aside, T'eo's performance in the BCS Title Game sealed his draft fate.

Not only was Chance Warmack able to get to the second level and lay blocks on him (ND's 3-4 was useless against the Tide Wall), but Lacy and Yeldon outran and ran over him. For the first time in his brilliant ND career, he looked average, and that projects terribly to the NFL. Hopefully it was just one game but he wasn't going anywhere until late 1st.

I winced every time ESPN tried to pump Manti as he fell. I think he could fit well as a system player, and perhaps even in nickel coverage, but his last game shows the jury's out because that's what every Sunday could look like for him. And I l-o-v-e the kid.

Otherwise, for all its supposed lack of starpower, this Draft -- and the next 2 rounds -- could be monumental for its depth of line and defensive prospects.

[Edited 4/26/13 11:35am]

Agreed. Manti T'eo reminds me a lot of a similar linebacker that played at Notre Dame in the late 80's and early 90's named Chris Zorich. He was an outstanding college player, and he had huge upside personally, as he was a gentleman off the field. Having said that, the Chicago Bears drafted him in the second round back in 1991, and while he wasn't the bust that their first round pick was that year, he was undersized for the NFL, and his limitations became more apparent as the years went on.

And in this NFL, if you don't have the hulking size and/or tremendous speed to get down the field, you will get killed quickly. T'eo seems not to have either to be a regular NFL player.

Geno Smith to the Jets!

Eagles grab the USC QB Matt Barkley.

728huey said:

namepeace said:

Even as an ND fan, I agree with uptownNY. Hoax aside, T'eo's performance in the BCS Title Game sealed his draft fate.

Not only was Chance Warmack able to get to the second level and lay blocks on him (ND's 3-4 was useless against the Tide Wall), but Lacy and Yeldon outran and ran over him. For the first time in his brilliant ND career, he looked average, and that projects terribly to the NFL. Hopefully it was just one game but he wasn't going anywhere until late 1st.

I winced every time ESPN tried to pump Manti as he fell. I think he could fit well as a system player, and perhaps even in nickel coverage, but his last game shows the jury's out because that's what every Sunday could look like for him. And I l-o-v-e the kid.

Otherwise, for all its supposed lack of starpower, this Draft -- and the next 2 rounds -- could be monumental for its depth of line and defensive prospects.

[Edited 4/26/13 11:35am]

Agreed. Manti T'eo reminds me a lot of a similar linebacker that played at Notre Dame in the late 80's and early 90's named Chris Zorich. He was an outstanding college player, and he had huge upside personally, as he was a gentleman off the field. Having said that, the Chicago Bears drafted him in the second round back in 1991, and while he wasn't the bust that their first round pick was that year, he was undersized for the NFL, and his limitations became more apparent as the years went on.

And in this NFL, if you don't have the hulking size and/or tremendous speed to get down the field, you will get killed quickly. T'eo seems not to have either to be a regular NFL player.

Zorich was an NT and played some 3-gap technique for the Bears and Skins but I get what you're saying.

Jets release Tim Tebow.

uPtoWnNY said:

Jets release Tim Tebow.

The fact that they waited until the end of the Draft to fire him reeks of a personal vendetta against the guy.



Not right.

PurpleJedi said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Jets release Tim Tebow.

The fact that they waited until the end of the Draft to fire him reeks of a personal vendetta against the guy.



Not right.

The word is the Jets thought they'd be able to trade him. Like there's a team as stupid as the Jets to bring in a scrub like Tebow.

Geno Smith fired his agent because Smith wasn't taken first overall like his posse told him he would be.

LOL, Smith is going to make a PERFECT Jet.

PurpleJedi said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Jets release Tim Tebow.

The fact that they waited until the end of the Draft to fire him reeks of a personal vendetta against the guy.



Not right.

I don't watch college football. Is that player the Bears drafted #1 any good? He is Howie Long's son.

RodeoSchro said:

RodeoSchro said:

Geno Smith fired his agent because Smith wasn't taken first overall like his posse told him he would be.

LOL, Smith is going to make a PERFECT Jet.

I don't like this Smith cat already. How about he look at himself in the mirror for the reason he wasn't drafted first?