A gay, active NFL player is considering coming out of the closet before 2013 season starts: report

*cough*tebow*cough*

Why are people planning this shit? Just come out if you can't take it anymore...

Timmy84 said:

Why are people planning this shit? Just come out if you can't take it anymore...

who gives a damn anymore?

only the people who make money off of it being news care, similar to why this was posted here

I am 100% serious in saying i LONG for the day no one gives 2 fucks about anyone coming out.

I long for the day someone coming out is not headline news or on the first page of gossip colums...

[Edited 3/27/13 21:57pm]

Most football fans hate the 49ers (because of their city) and they will hate the team this player is on as long he is a member. That is why I do not approve of sports.

Gunsnhalen said:

I am 100% serious in saying i LONG for the day no one gives 2 fucks about anyoen coming out.

I long for the day someone coming out is not headline news or on the first page of gossip colums...

Soon my man...soon.

I never understood what COMING OUT OF THE CLOSET means (rethorical question)

I mean, you're gay: fine, ok, terrific, live your life

just don't YELL it to everybody unless you don't give a damn about your privacy

Hudson said:

Most football fans hate the 49ers (because of their city) and they will hate the team this player is on as long he is a member. That is why I do not approve of sports.

The ideal that The City is somehow soft because it has a high gay population cracks me up.

I'm from San Francisco and trust me when i say that although SF is not like it used to be(It's more gentrified and tech driven), a person can still get a beat down by anybody in The City. I've seen transvestites, lesbians, garden variety gay etc, get in that ass(no pun intended) on the streets of SF. That stuff can happen on some of the safer streets so a person can just imagine what can happen on the rougher streets...

San Francisco has always been a gritty city.

As far as an openly gay football player, I'm all for it. They(gay) deserve to be treated like everyone else. Period.

[Edited 3/27/13 14:59pm]

Hudson said:

phunkdaddy said:

Hudson said:

Most football fans hate the 49ers (because of their city) and they will hate the team this player is on as long he is a member. That is why I do not approve of sports.

Nope. Most people hated the 49ers because they dominated the 80's in football. Total hogwash. No one hates the 49ers because of a gay stigma attached to the city. Atlanta is considered the gay capital of the South but it doesn't have anything to do with hating a city's sports teams. I love the city of Atlanta because it is simply a beautiful city.

A lot do. Probably not most, but a lot of the men in my building do. I've even heard some of them say that San Francisco is going to 'get it.'

[Edited 3/27/13 15:20pm]

JoeTyler said:

I never understood what COMING OUT OF THE CLOSET means (rethorical question)

I mean, you're gay: fine, ok, terrific, live your life

just don't YELL it to everybody unless you don't give a damn about your privacy

No one has really explained this logic to me. I guess it means "hiding something" but I don't know...

Gunsnhalen said:

I am 100% serious in saying i LONG for the day no one gives 2 fucks about anyoen coming out.

I long for the day someone coming out is not headline news or on the first page of gossip colums...

I think that day is coming sooner than we think.

Unless the homosexual man in the NFL is someone who already has an NFL Superbowl championship ring, he will NOT out himself.

And you can quote me.

JoeTyler said:

I never understood what COMING OUT OF THE CLOSET means (rethorical question)

I mean, you're gay: fine, ok, terrific, live your life

just don't YELL it to everybody unless you don't give a damn about your privacy

Oh, you didn't get the memo? LGBT&T kids in America needs role models.

This is gonna be like LeBron's "the Decision" special.

Oh man, if it's Tebow, I am going to cry rivers on top of rivers...but I doubt he'll be the one

PurpleJedi said:

*cough*tebow*cough*

That bitch is never coming out, he's too full of himself.

JoeTyler said:

I never understood what COMING OUT OF THE CLOSET means (rethorical question)

I mean, you're gay: fine, ok, terrific, live your life

just don't YELL it to everybody unless you don't give a damn about your privacy

a lot of the change we are seeing now is because people came out of the closet.

it is much easier for bigots to hate when the've never knowingly met a gay person. when they know someone who is out, it usually causes them to reexamine their bigotry. it's the same with bigots and race. if/when a racist becomes friends with a black person (or whichever ethnicity their bigotry is against), their bigotry tends to minimize considerably, if not disapeer. once they know someone from the group they are scared of/loathe/stereotype, the stereotypes get revealed as the nonsense they are.

that's why people come out publicly.

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TonyVanDam said:

JoeTyler said:

I never understood what COMING OUT OF THE CLOSET means (rethorical question)

I mean, you're gay: fine, ok, terrific, live your life

just don't YELL it to everybody unless you don't give a damn about your privacy

Oh, you didn't get the memo? LGBT&T kids in America needs role models.

that too.

good point

JoeTyler said:

PurpleJedi said:

*cough*tebow*cough*

Tebow? I don't know what sexual he is. Nor care.

It's up to him who he fucks. Nobody needs to know. Nobody needs to put it in the papers. Nobody needs to parade in the street about it.

Damn Western society and it's obsession with sex and all things related.

ISF said:

It's up to him who he fucks. Nobody needs to know. Nobody needs to put it in the papers. Nobody needs to parade in the street about it.

Damn Western society and it's obsession with sex and all things related.

Why people boil gays down to sex is beyond me.

Anywho, the parades are because society goes out of its way to make gays feel like second class citizens. If you want to insult someone, call them gay. Gays are still beat up and killed because of who they love.

PDogz said:

PurpleJedi said:

*cough*tebow*cough*

That bitch is never coming out, he's too full of himself.

He can be full of me!

Stymie said:

ISF said:

It's up to him who he fucks. Nobody needs to know. Nobody needs to put it in the papers. Nobody needs to parade in the street about it.

Damn Western society and it's obsession with sex and all things related.

Why people boil gays down to sex is beyond me.

Anywho, the parades are because society goes out of its way to make gays feel like second class citizens. If you want to insult someone, call them gay. Gays are still beat up and killed because of who they love.

Straight people find it hard to understand because they don't realize how easy they have it themselves in their normal day to day lives being heterosexual. Straight people don't have to hide anything. When they think of us, the first thing they think about is sex so naturally, the first thing they holler is "Do your job and don't be telling all your business" as if it's a matter of someone wanting to be able to sit around and talk about explicit sex all day, which many straight people do themselves also.

They take for granted the little things that occur in everyday life in the working world that they are able to do freely without getting a second glance and we can't. They have nothing to hide because their lifestyle is accepted by the entire world so they don't realize that a gay person is hiding something every single day when they come to work. Straight people have pictures of their spouses and children all over their desks. When they call in and say they can't come to work on a particular day, they have legitimate excuses such as "I can't come in today, I have to take my child to the doctor" or "I can't come in today, my husband is in the hospital and I'm very worried about him". A closeted gay coworker is basically considered by the rest of the office as either a loner and someone very mysterious. There are no pictures of spouses and children on their desks. The only time they call in and say they can't make it to work on a particular day is for when they have a problem that relates to themselves only. If they have a lover, they sure as hell can't call in and say "I can't come in today because my friend is in the hospital". The employer would tell them they better take their ass up there and visit their friend after work during hospital visiting hours.

When you work with people, you spend a lot of time each day with your coworkers. Actually, you spend more time with them than you spend with your own family because you are up there five days a week, eight hours a day with your coworkers. Business does not go on the entire time you are at work. There are down times when nothing is going on and what do straight people do during these down times? They are talking to each other about where they went last weekend with their spouse and children. They are talking about their daughter needing braces and how much they are going to cost. They are talking about the family vacation they are planning. Just everyday normal things that occur in life. What does the closeted gay person do during down times? He either keeps to himself, surfs the internet, or he participates in the conversations with the coworkers also. But when he participates, he's always talking about something he did alone or something he did with a friend or friends. And if he has a lover, he simply refers to him as his friend.

So what's wrong with that and why can't he be happy with that since he's also able to socialize with his straight coworkers? First of all, because doesn't have the same freedom to let his hair down and be completely comfortable and not use code words like "friends". Straight people don't have to do that so why should he? Straight people don't have to hide their lives so why should he? Fuck that! And even if he doesn't want to be totally open to them, they don't leave it at that. They see him as a loner or mysterious so they get curious and start prying into his personal life because there's no pictures on his desk, he's never mentioning a wife or girlfiend, and who is this "friend" he keeps talking about. They're not stupid, they can see there is something different about him and they start trying to find out about him. Many of them are harmless and don't care once they find out, they're just being curious. But there are also many of them who can sense he's gay and try to pry so they can make him the clown once he has either told them something or once they have pried and have either seeked out or casually run into someone outside of the office that knows him and have gotten their suspicions about him confirmed. And once they've found out for sure, then the harassment can start and when the office becomes a constant hostile battlezone, then the employer can conveniently fire him for "disrupting the office".

It's very similar to the way a white woman with a black husband would live her life. Many of them don't have pictures of their spouses and kids all over their desks either and don't discuss their everyday lives with other coworkers and they have other coworkers pry into their personal lives because they find them mysterious. But the difference in that is, when the office becomes in an uproar when she defends herself, her job is protected by law, ours isn't.

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[Edited 3/28/13 9:09am]

I saw "Gay NPG member", and was going to reply, "We already know."

vainandy said:

Stymie said:

Why people boil gays down to sex is beyond me.

Anywho, the parades are because society goes out of its way to make gays feel like second class citizens. If you want to insult someone, call them gay. Gays are still beat up and killed because of who they love.

Straight people find it hard to understand because they don't realize how easy they have it themselves in their normal day to day lives being heterosexual. Straight people don't have to hide anything. When they think of us, the first thing they think about is sex so naturally, the first thing they holler is "Do you job and don't be telling all your business" as if it's a matter someone being able to sit around and talk about explicit sex all day, which they do themselves also.

They take for granted the little things that occur in everyday life in the working world. They have nothing to hide because their lifestyle is accepted by the entire world so they don't realize that a gay person is hiding something every single day when they come to work. Straight people have pictures of their spouses and children all over their desks. When they call in and say they can't come to work on a particular day, they have legitimate excuses such as "I can't come in today, I have to take my child to the doctor" or "I can't come in today, my husband is in the hospital and I'm very worried about him". A closeted gay coworker is basically considered by the rest of the office as either a loner and someone very mysterious. There are no pictures of spouses and children on their desks. The only time they call in and say they can't make it to work on a particular day is for when they have a problem that relates to themselves only. If they have a lover, they sure as hell can't call in and say "I can't come in today because my friend is in the hospital". The employer would tell them they better take their ass up there and visit their friend after work during hospital visiting hours.

When you work with people, you spend a lot of time each day with your coworkers. Actually, you spend more time with them than you spend with your own family because you are up there five days a week, eight hours a day with your coworkers. Business does not go on the entire time you are at work. There are down times when nothing is going on and what do straight people do during these down times? They are talking to each other about where they went last weekend with their spouse and children. They are talking about their daughter needing braces and how much they are going to cost. They are talking about the family vacation they are planning. Just everyday normal things that occur in life. What does the closeted gay person do during down times? He either keeps to himself, surfs the internet, or he participates in the conversations with the coworkers also. But when he participates, he's always talking about something he did alone or something he did with a friend or friends. And if he has a lover, he simply refers to him as his friend.

So what's wrong with that or why can't he be happy with that since he's also able to socialize with his straight coworkers? First of all, because doesn't have the same freedom to let his hair down and be completely comfortable and not use code words like "friends". Straight people don't have to do that so why should he? And even if he doesn't want to be totally open to them, they don't leave it at that. They see him as a loner or mysterious so they get curious and start prying into his personal life because there's no pictures on his desk, he's never mentioning a wife or girlfiend, and who is this "friend" he keeps talking about. They're not stupid, they can see there is something different about him and they start trying to find out about him. Many of them are harmless and don't care once they find out, they're just being curious. But there are also many of them who can sense he's gay and try to pry so they can make him the clown once he has either told them something or once they have pried and have either seeked out or casually run into someone outside of the office that knows him. And once they've found out for sure, then the harassment can start and when the office becomes a constant hostile battlezone, then the employer can conveniently fire him for "disrupting the office".

It's very similar to the way a white woman with a black husband would live her life. Many of them don't have pictures of their spouses and kids all over their desks and don't discuss their everyday lives with other coworker and have other coworkers pry into their personal lives because they find them mysterious. But the difference in that is, when the office becomes in an uproar when she defends herself, her job is protected by law, ours isn't.

Good stuff Andy.

vainandy said:

Straight people find it hard to understand because they don't realize how easy they have it themselves in their normal day to day lives being heterosexual. Straight people don't have to hide anything. When they think of us, the first thing they think about is sex so naturally, the first thing they holler is "Do your job and don't be telling all your business" as if it's a matter of someone wanting to be able to sit around and talk about explicit sex all day, which many straight people do themselves also.

They take for granted the little things that occur in everyday life in the working world that they are able to do freely without getting a second glance and we can't. They have nothing to hide because their lifestyle is accepted by the entire world so they don't realize that a gay person is hiding something every single day when they come to work. Straight people have pictures of their spouses and children all over their desks. When they call in and say they can't come to work on a particular day, they have legitimate excuses such as "I can't come in today, I have to take my child to the doctor" or "I can't come in today, my husband is in the hospital and I'm very worried about him". A closeted gay coworker is basically considered by the rest of the office as either a loner and someone very mysterious. There are no pictures of spouses and children on their desks. The only time they call in and say they can't make it to work on a particular day is for when they have a problem that relates to themselves only. If they have a lover, they sure as hell can't call in and say "I can't come in today because my friend is in the hospital". The employer would tell them they better take their ass up there and visit their friend after work during hospital visiting hours.

When you work with people, you spend a lot of time each day with your coworkers. Actually, you spend more time with them than you spend with your own family because you are up there five days a week, eight hours a day with your coworkers. Business does not go on the entire time you are at work. There are down times when nothing is going on and what do straight people do during these down times? They are talking to each other about where they went last weekend with their spouse and children. They are talking about their daughter needing braces and how much they are going to cost. They are talking about the family vacation they are planning. Just everyday normal things that occur in life. What does the closeted gay person do during down times? He either keeps to himself, surfs the internet, or he participates in the conversations with the coworkers also. But when he participates, he's always talking about something he did alone or something he did with a friend or friends. And if he has a lover, he simply refers to him as his friend.

So what's wrong with that and why can't he be happy with that since he's also able to socialize with his straight coworkers? First of all, because doesn't have the same freedom to let his hair down and be completely comfortable and not use code words like "friends". Straight people don't have to do that so why should he? Straight people don't have to hide their lives so why should he? Fuck that! And even if he doesn't want to be totally open to them, they don't leave it at that. They see him as a loner or mysterious so they get curious and start prying into his personal life because there's no pictures on his desk, he's never mentioning a wife or girlfiend, and who is this "friend" he keeps talking about. They're not stupid, they can see there is something different about him and they start trying to find out about him. Many of them are harmless and don't care once they find out, they're just being curious. But there are also many of them who can sense he's gay and try to pry so they can make him the clown once he has either told them something or once they have pried and have either seeked out or casually run into someone outside of the office that knows him and have gotten their suspicions about him confirmed. And once they've found out for sure, then the harassment can start and when the office becomes a constant hostile battlezone, then the employer can conveniently fire him for "disrupting the office".

It's very similar to the way a white woman with a black husband would live her life. Many of them don't have pictures of their spouses and kids all over their desks either and don't discuss their everyday lives with other coworkers and they have other coworkers pry into their personal lives because they find them mysterious. But the difference in that is, when the office becomes in an uproar when she defends herself, her job is protected by law, ours isn't.

You put that in a way that anyone should be able to understand. Yet, I will bet you there will still be those who will fail to get the point.