^ Well if you believe some, the aliens are already here among us...tyically 'the greys'....if the reports of abductions are to be believed they seem to be using ppl as scientific / DNA experiements already....

TheFreakerFantastic said:

^ Well if you believe some, the aliens are already here among us...tyically 'the greys'....if the reports of abductions are to be believed they seem to be using ppl as scientific / DNA experiements already....

I definitely do not dismiss the possibility of earth being "studied" - the way we study animals in the wild.

In fact...there is a line of thought that argues that the "Garden of Eden" could refer to a "reserve" where an alien race could have held a primitive male & female human and studied/experimented on them and possibly taught them things...until whatever "taboo" was breached (sex?) and caused them to abandon the experiment and release them back into the wild.

^ Well I find it interesting why so many accounts of aliens tend to have strong similarities...and also the fact the accounts refer to the creatures harvesting DNA off people - as if somehow they need it to rebuild their worlds or species or even to create a hybrid human/alien race?!

Not sure. I also think some abduction accounts are basically covered memories of childhood trauma or abuse, ie if you have a traumatic experience sometimes the brain puts something over the memory to shield it so its more palatable.

Did u ever see the 4th Kind? That was creepy!!!

PurpleJedi said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Depends on who or what the 'aliens' are.

If its a few bacteria from a meterorite then yes probably.

If its a hostile force with advanced technology to ours like Independence Day then probably no....

Yeah in this argument, we're dealing with an advanced species.

The "argument" revolves around whether or not any visitors would be more like the aggressive "Independence Day" type of the benevolent "E.T." type.

A bit of both.

Let's face it. To make the leap from ape to man requires a war-like mind. You had to be in a hostile environment and you needed to outsmart your enemies. Very specific catalysts for this type of 'intelligent change'. Intelligence is NOT a forgone result of evolution or adaptation--it's completely unecessary in the vast majority of sceneries (else, we'd have LOTS of intelligent beings on earth).

Now the fact that we had several species of humanoids (Neanderthals most famously) in addition to us doesn't really tain this view because the intelligence needed probably started with a common ancestor.

However, in any scenario I can think of, you need a war-like species with the need to outsmart its enemies in order to develope intelligence like ours---we weren't smart because it was a cute thing to do---we HAD to be smart under whatever circumstances there were.

Ergo, to be intelligent I don't think you can be benevolant E.T. types.

However, I also don't see an independence day scenerio either. Because in order to develop technologies like that you need a brain for math and physics---ergo, a LOGICAL brain.

And as I stated before, an alien race so advanced that it could travel the distances between us

with enough ease to send giant ships and thousands of its citizens has little need for us.

And little to be threatened with.

They would essentially, in comparison, be gods--and really have absolutely no interest in

conquering something that is pointless. It would be like us conquering bees for honey

if we were smart enough to make our own without the need for bees.

This thread is tedius.

I think it's time we turned it into a gay suasage fest.

TheFreakerFantastic said:

^ Well I find it interesting why so many accounts of aliens tend to have strong similarities...and also the fact the accounts refer to the creatures harvesting DNA off people - as if somehow they need it to rebuild their worlds or species or even to create a hybrid human/alien race?!

Not sure. I also think some abduction accounts are basically covered memories of childhood trauma or abuse, ie if you have a traumatic experience sometimes the brain puts something over the memory to shield it so its more palatable.

Did u ever see the 4th Kind? That was creepy!!!

Yeah I did see it...creeped me out at first because I thought it was a legitimate documentary.

Then as it went on I realized it for what it was.

imago said:

PurpleJedi said:

Yeah in this argument, we're dealing with an advanced species.

The "argument" revolves around whether or not any visitors would be more like the aggressive "Independence Day" type of the benevolent "E.T." type.

A bit of both.

Let's face it. To make the leap from ape to man requires a war-like mind. You had to be in a hostile environment and you needed to outsmart your enemies. Very specific catalysts for this type of 'intelligent change'. Intelligence is NOT a forgone result of evolution or adaptation--it's completely unecessary in the vast majority of sceneries (else, we'd have LOTS of intelligent beings on earth).

Now the fact that we had several species of humanoids (Neanderthals most famously) in addition to us doesn't really tain this view because the intelligence needed probably started with a common ancestor.

However, in any scenario I can think of, you need a war-like species with the need to outsmart its enemies in order to develope intelligence like ours---we weren't smart because it was a cute thing to do---we HAD to be smart under whatever circumstances there were.

Ergo, to be intelligent I don't think you can be benevolant E.T. types.

However, I also don't see an independence day scenerio either. Because in order to develop technologies like that you need a brain for math and physics---ergo, a LOGICAL brain.

And as I stated before, an alien race so advanced that it could travel the distances between us

with enough ease to send giant ships and thousands of its citizens has little need for us.

And little to be threatened with.

They would essentially, in comparison, be gods--and really have absolutely no interest in

conquering something that is pointless. It would be like us conquering bees for honey

if we were smart enough to make our own without the need for bees.

Actually I've heard it argued that the leap to intelligence in our proto-human ancestor was a combination of factors but most importantly our switch from "prey" to "predator".

We are prey at heart, but somewhere along the way we learned to hunt.

As a result we evolved with a complex set of features and adaptations that allowed us to become "intelligent".

imago said:

This thread is tedius.

I think it's time we turned it into a gay suasage fest.

Fauxie just started a thread for that.

Of course we'd survive it

in fact, this planet NEEDS an intergalactic war vs an alien species

JoeTyler said:

Of course we'd survive it

in fact, this planet NEEDS an intergalactic war vs an alien species

if you click on the link for the original story, there's a video of Ronald Regan saying something about humanity would finally unite if threatened by an alien race.

Cow said:

Cows will survive. Aliens generally don't like to probe us.

That´s what they want you to think my dear bovine friend.

^ Animal mutilations are a very strange phenomenon although i'm sometimes suspicious the military may be involved doing covert experiments etc etc....

PurpleJedi said:

JoeTyler said:

Of course we'd survive it

in fact, this planet NEEDS an intergalactic war vs an alien species

if you click on the link for the original story, there's a video of Ronald Regan saying something about humanity would finally unite if threatened by an alien race.

hemmm, I meant it as a way to improve the economy, lol

JoeTyler said:

PurpleJedi said:

if you click on the link for the original story, there's a video of Ronald Regan saying something about humanity would finally unite if threatened by an alien race.

hemmm, I meant it as a way to improve the economy, lol

Ooohhh...

Yeah....can you IMAGINE the boost in the technology sector? Suddenly we'd be building FLEETS of space-faring fighters.

FORTUNATELY...we already have a prototype

KoolEaze said:

Cow said:

Cows will survive. Aliens generally don't like to probe us.

That´s what they want you to think my dear bovine friend.

whoa

I think they exist

I would survive

kpowers said:

I would survive

Uhm...I'd prefer to believe that you'd possibly give your life defending the Earth? Or Gotham city at the very least?

PurpleJedi said:

kpowers said:

I would survive

Uhm...I'd prefer to believe that you'd possibly give your life defending the Earth? Or Gotham city at the very least?

I suggest if you want to survive the alien invasion move to Gotham

kpowers said:

PurpleJedi said:

Uhm...I'd prefer to believe that you'd possibly give your life defending the Earth? Or Gotham city at the very least?

I suggest if you want to survive the alien invasion move to Gotham

No offense my man...but I'm taking my chances in Metropolis.

Dude in the blue tights can leap tall buildings in a single bounce.

Plus he can probably speak their language.

PurpleJedi said:

kpowers said:

I suggest if you want to survive the alien invasion move to Gotham

No offense my man...but I'm taking my chances in Metropolis.

Dude in the blue tights can leap tall buildings in a single bounce.

Plus he can probably speak their language.

was nice knowing you

Nothinbutjoy said:

THEORETICALLY that all sounds logical, but really....

Klingons and Romulans fought the Federation.

It could happen. An advanced alien race could pounce just because they wanted to.

http://www.ufocasebook.co...tions.html

Oh and Russel Crowe, the actor claims to have had a close encounter

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/...47482.html

UFO exploring Amsterdam a few days ago.

My friend took a picture.

Stranely, the media did not pick up the UFO thing.

So, I would advice the aliens to start in Holland, because nobody believes it and the Dutch don't seem to be impressed.

Maybe, the Dutch actually are already puppets of the aliens?!

Cool.