morningsong said:

I hope folks realize that kids throughout history have ran away from home for a variety of reason, in some cases it was abuse and sometimes just because they were simply pissed off for whatever reason at the time and wanted to punish/scare their parents.

On the other hand there are a ton of throwaway kids, dropouts and such who literally are not getting parental guidance but there have been programs implemented to have parents reimburse the "state" for it's lost in cost and whatever, but those programs usually go down the tube due to budget cuts unable to pay the personnel to run this programs, coupled with the fact that most parents of such kids don't have 2 nickels to rub together themselves. So sueing such parents wouldn't embarass them within their social circle like it would with some parents, since they know nobody would get a dime from them anyway, therefore it just a waste of time and somebody else's money.

Basically, I just see this as another thing to glut-up the legal system, and not something anybody really cares enough to actually fund.

And I know I got my fair share of butt spankings, and I know to this day, I was loved to pieces and folks were scared to death for me, maybe a bit too much sometimes, but I know they did what they knew to do as best they could, what the hell else can someone expect outta another human being.

Very measured response, m.s. I agree with this line of thinking.

JustErin said:

Timmy84 said:

How do we know if his parents were "bad" though?

We don't.

But I'm commenting more on the idea of being able to do this more than this particular case since we don't know anything about it really, just what a couple of sensational articles decide to tell us.

Exctamundo.

This is about much, MUCH more than just this guy and his case we really no practically zero about.

JustErin said:

Tremolina said:

Oh maybe we should stop "whining" too? Sheesh, like you guys opinion is actually "normal".

Did you know that parents are liable when their child causes damages? Why should they not be liable for damaging ther child?

I wonder how you would feel if your life was fucked up like that, but obviously you guys lack empathy and do not realise one bit how much damage is caused to society by bad parenting either.

'Great' discussion.

North American culture is not an empathetic one.

It's the biggest tragedy of our times, in my opinion.

Wonder why.

Tremolina said:

JustErin said:

North American culture is not an empathetic one.

It's the biggest tragedy of our times, in my opinion.

Wonder why.

That's patently false and a simplistic viewpoint of the US.

TD3 said:

Tremolina said:

Wonder why.

That's patently false and a simplistic viewpoint of the US.

It's really not. And I said North America. Last time I checked the US was not the only country in NA.

I just read of a case in BC where a parent is suing their children for parental support. Seems there is a law on the books about children supporting their aging parents, it is a age old practice.

I think it's a matter of setting a standard. There are cases where adult children have sued for abuse, not lack of enough love, but abuse, in fact states do have some laws on the books allowing for that within limits. Now why does this one state a lack of "enough" love? It's frivolous just like a ton of other lawsuits out there, why encourage bad behavior.

JustErin said:

Tremolina said:

Yeah, because there should be no consequences to bad parenting whatsoever right? When you failed to perform your contractual duties you may just be liable for millions and when you got hurt by somebody physically or emotionally you may just get damages into the millions, but when your parents have fucked you over your entire childhood and destroyed your life as a kid, you are a whining baby?

Sounds real reasonable timmy. But fact is that most problems (young) people suffer from, and some of those problems are really extremely serious effecting them negatively for their entire lives, have EVRYTHING to do with their parent's upbringing.

So should he be able to sue? Fuck yeah. If his parents were indeed guilty of destroying his childhood and his departure from home at the age of 12. The only question here is whether he can prove his parents abused him like that, causing him to leave home by 12. He possibly can't because it's too long ago and he hasn't kept any evidence of it. That then would be the only legal reason why it should be thrown out.

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You beat me to it. I was about to post something similar. His lawsuit is a little weird but parents have completely escaped accountability for far too long.

To say that one should just grow a set and get over something that clearly can and often does emotionally damage you for life is pretty ignorant in my opinion. It's not a one size fits all situation with it comes to how people can deal with what life has thrown to them.

Just because there is no law over emotionally abusing/traumatizing your children doesn't mean that it should be something that you should just get over and the parents should not be held accountable.

Clearly these parents abused and neglected their child and got away with it, but should they have?

I have one problem with this argument. Suppose Mr. Beys parents claim they were raised by their parents (his grandparents) the way they raised Mr. Bey? It could be you know? Maybe Mr. Beys parents only did what THEY were taught. Should they then sue their parents? Where would it end? The great-grandparents are probably not around anymore so it would probably end with the grandparents...I guess.

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What a douchebag.

JustErin said:

TD3 said:

That's patently false and a simplistic viewpoint of the US.

It's really not. And I said North America. Last time I checked the US was not the only country in NA.

I'm aware of that but since I don't live in Canada (though I've visited) I'm not a position to make any generalizations about Canada, Mexico, and/or Central America.