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Man Sues Parents For Not Loving Him Enough

A 32-year-old Brooklyn man is suing his parents, claiming he wasn't loved enough by them and that their neglect has caused him to be homeless and jobless.

Bernard Bey filed a self-written lawsuit in Brooklyn court earlier this month, accusing his parents of causing him mental anguish and for making him feel "unloved and beaten by the world."

"If you have kids, you're expected to love your children," Bey told NBC 4 New York. "You want the best for your children."

Bey claimed he was physically and emotionally abused and ran away from home when he was 12, and then was in and out of the shelter system after turning 16.

He's spent time in jail and is now homeless, and he believes his parents are at the root of his problems.

Bey is asking the court for more than $200,000 in damages. He wants his parents to mortgage their family home and purchase two franchises like Domino's Pizza.

"I feel like my parents should want the best for their children and grandchildren so we have something to pass down for generations so we don't have to live like this," he said.

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Bey's parents, who live in public housing, said they're not in a position to give up any money. His stepfather named in the suit, Bernard Manley, had some choice unprintable words and maintained Bey is not his biological son.

Bey said he is willing to drop the lawsuit if his family will simply sit down at the dinner table with him.

"Let's work together, and definitely, I'll drop the suit," he said.

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Reply #1 posted 02/23/13 10:10pm

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I love the "His stepfather named in the suit, Bernard Manley, had some choice unprintable words and maintained Bey is not his biological son." part.

poor guy sounds like he has some real mental issues. most people who have that bad a time run as fast as they can away from the source, this one is willing to sit down to dinner with them.

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Reply #2 posted 02/23/13 10:16pm

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i'm thinking my folks probably love me a little too much. no ligitations pending at the moment.

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Reply #3 posted 02/24/13 3:32am

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gimma a fu%$in break....... rolleyes

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Reply #4 posted 02/24/13 6:26pm

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I hope the court is not that foolish to seriously try such a case... what a whining baby.

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Reply #5 posted 02/25/13 12:21am

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"He wants his parents to mortgage their family home and purchase two franchises like Domino's Pizza."

WTF? The article says they live in public housing.

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Reply #6 posted 02/25/13 12:42pm

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Timmy84 said:

I hope the court is not that foolish to seriously try such a case... what a whining baby.

Yeah, because there should be no consequences to bad parenting whatsoever right? When you failed to perform your contractual duties you may just be liable for millions and when you got hurt by somebody physically or emotionally you may just get damages into the millions, but when your parents have fucked you over your entire childhood and destroyed your life as a kid, you are a whining baby?

Sounds real reasonable timmy. But fact is that most problems (young) people suffer from, and some of those problems are really extremely serious effecting them negatively for their entire lives, have EVRYTHING to do with their parent's upbringing.

So should he be able to sue? Fuck yeah. If his parents were indeed guilty of destroying his childhood and his departure from home at the age of 12. The only question here is whether he can prove his parents abused him like that, causing him to leave home by 12. He possibly can't because it's too long ago and he hasn't kept any evidence of it. That then would be the only legal reason why it should be thrown out.

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Reply #7 posted 02/25/13 1:41pm

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Tremolina said:

Timmy84 said:

I hope the court is not that foolish to seriously try such a case... what a whining baby.

Yeah, because there should be no consequences to bad parenting whatsoever right? When you failed to perform your contractual duties you may just be liable for millions and when you got hurt by somebody physically or emotionally you may just get damages into the millions, but when your parents have fucked you over your entire childhood and destroyed your life as a kid, you are a whining baby?

Sounds real reasonable timmy. But fact is that most problems (young) people suffer from, and some of those problems are really extremely serious effecting them negatively for their entire lives, have EVRYTHING to do with their parent's upbringing.

So should he be able to sue? Fuck yeah. If his parents were indeed guilty of destroying his childhood and his departure from home at the age of 12. The only question here is whether he can prove his parents abused him like that, causing him to leave home by 12. He possibly can't because it's too long ago and he hasn't kept any evidence of it. That then would be the only legal reason why it should be thrown out.

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I'm sure that MILLIONS of people have grown up with shitty parents, and they've had the strength and maturity to overcome their situation and do for themselves.

No, he should not be able to sue. He needs to grow a set of balls and go do something with his life. If his childhood was that fucked up, then break off contact with them. End of story.

The consequences to being a shitty parent is that,one way or another, you lose your children.

If you abuse your children, then you get sent to jail.

But to actually sue you parents because your life is fucked up? Give me a damned break. You are the master of your own destiny. YOU.

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Reply #8 posted 02/25/13 2:14pm

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Tremolina said:

Timmy84 said:

I hope the court is not that foolish to seriously try such a case... what a whining baby.

Yeah, because there should be no consequences to bad parenting whatsoever right? When you failed to perform your contractual duties you may just be liable for millions and when you got hurt by somebody physically or emotionally you may just get damages into the millions, but when your parents have fucked you over your entire childhood and destroyed your life as a kid, you are a whining baby?

Sounds real reasonable timmy. But fact is that most problems (young) people suffer from, and some of those problems are really extremely serious effecting them negatively for their entire lives, have EVRYTHING to do with their parent's upbringing.

So should he be able to sue? Fuck yeah. If his parents were indeed guilty of destroying his childhood and his departure from home at the age of 12. The only question here is whether he can prove his parents abused him like that, causing him to leave home by 12. He possibly can't because it's too long ago and he hasn't kept any evidence of it. That then would be the only legal reason why it should be thrown out.

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You beat me to it. I was about to post something similar. His lawsuit is a little weird but parents have completely escaped accountability for far too long.

To say that one should just grow a set and get over something that clearly can and often does emotionally damage you for life is pretty ignorant in my opinion. It's not a one size fits all situation with it comes to how people can deal with what life has thrown to them.

Just because there is no law over emotionally abusing/traumatizing your children doesn't mean that it should be something that you should just get over and the parents should not be held accountable.

Clearly these parents abused and neglected their child and got away with it, but should they have?

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Reply #9 posted 02/25/13 2:27pm

Tremolina

PurpleJedi said:

Tremolina said:

Yeah, because there should be no consequences to bad parenting whatsoever right? When you failed to perform your contractual duties you may just be liable for millions and when you got hurt by somebody physically or emotionally you may just get damages into the millions, but when your parents have fucked you over your entire childhood and destroyed your life as a kid, you are a whining baby?

Sounds real reasonable timmy. But fact is that most problems (young) people suffer from, and some of those problems are really extremely serious effecting them negatively for their entire lives, have EVRYTHING to do with their parent's upbringing.

So should he be able to sue? Fuck yeah. If his parents were indeed guilty of destroying his childhood and his departure from home at the age of 12. The only question here is whether he can prove his parents abused him like that, causing him to leave home by 12. He possibly can't because it's too long ago and he hasn't kept any evidence of it. That then would be the only legal reason why it should be thrown out.

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I'm sure that MILLIONS of people have grown up with shitty parents, and they've had the strength and maturity to overcome their situation and do for themselves.

No, he should not be able to sue. He needs to grow a set of balls and go do something with his life. If his childhood was that fucked up, then break off contact with them. End of story.

The consequences to being a shitty parent is that,one way or another, you lose your children.

If you abuse your children, then you get sent to jail.

But to actually sue you parents because your life is fucked up? Give me a damned break. You are the master of your own destiny. YOU.

A child is not the master of its own destiny. Its parents are.

Yes unfortunately millions of people have grown up this way (and their parents get away with it), but you ignore that most of those people do not 'overcome' those issues, but that they suffer from the consequences for the rest of their lives. The damage is not just personal, but usually there is also a lot of damage for society, because these people tend to live fucked up lives, become criminal, psychiatrically ill, drug addicts, jobless etc.

So according to you jail time is fine for fucked up parents abusing their kids, but monetary damages aren't. Makes no sense.

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Reply #10 posted 02/25/13 2:33pm

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JustErin said:

Tremolina said:

Yeah, because there should be no consequences to bad parenting whatsoever right? When you failed to perform your contractual duties you may just be liable for millions and when you got hurt by somebody physically or emotionally you may just get damages into the millions, but when your parents have fucked you over your entire childhood and destroyed your life as a kid, you are a whining baby?

Sounds real reasonable timmy. But fact is that most problems (young) people suffer from, and some of those problems are really extremely serious effecting them negatively for their entire lives, have EVRYTHING to do with their parent's upbringing.

So should he be able to sue? Fuck yeah. If his parents were indeed guilty of destroying his childhood and his departure from home at the age of 12. The only question here is whether he can prove his parents abused him like that, causing him to leave home by 12. He possibly can't because it's too long ago and he hasn't kept any evidence of it. That then would be the only legal reason why it should be thrown out.

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You beat me to it. I was about to post something similar. His lawsuit is a little weird but parents have completely escaped accountability for far too long.

To say that one should just grow a set and get over something that clearly can and often does emotionally damage you for life is pretty ignorant in my opinion. It's not a one size fits all situation with it comes to how people can deal with what life has thrown to them.

Just because there is no law over emotionally abusing/traumatizing your children doesn't mean that it should be something that you should just get over and the parents should not be held accountable.

Clearly these parents abused and neglected their child and got away with it, but should they have?

No they should not. Too many parents get away with bad parenting. It's one of the major flaws of our society. Do one thing wrong to any ordinary citizen and you can get sued for millions, but fuck your kid up for life and you are fine.

Anybody can see the injustice in that.

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Reply #11 posted 02/25/13 2:34pm

Tremolina

By the way, tort law should suffice for a lawsuit.

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Reply #12 posted 02/25/13 3:28pm

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Tremolina said:

JustErin said:

You beat me to it. I was about to post something similar. His lawsuit is a little weird but parents have completely escaped accountability for far too long.

To say that one should just grow a set and get over something that clearly can and often does emotionally damage you for life is pretty ignorant in my opinion. It's not a one size fits all situation with it comes to how people can deal with what life has thrown to them.

Just because there is no law over emotionally abusing/traumatizing your children doesn't mean that it should be something that you should just get over and the parents should not be held accountable.

Clearly these parents abused and neglected their child and got away with it, but should they have?

No they should not. Too many parents get away with bad parenting. It's one of the major flaws of our society. Do one thing wrong to any ordinary citizen and you can get sued for millions, but fuck your kid up for life and you are fine.

Anybody can see the injustice in that.

Yeah, let's compare it to kids that are bullied constantly. They should just buck up and get over it, afterall they are the master of their own destiny.

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Reply #13 posted 02/25/13 4:09pm

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JustErin said:

Tremolina said:

No they should not. Too many parents get away with bad parenting. It's one of the major flaws of our society. Do one thing wrong to any ordinary citizen and you can get sued for millions, but fuck your kid up for life and you are fine.

Anybody can see the injustice in that.

Yeah, let's compare it to kids that are bullied constantly. They should just buck up and get over it, afterall they are the master of their own destiny.

Exactly. Somehow kids are just supposed to take it, suck it up and stop whining.

'Grown ups' however can whine and cry about damages forever EXCEPT - somehow again - when it is about damages they suffered when they were still a minor.

Just read another story about a 9 year old committing suicide in the UK. Apparantly bullying was a factor. Usually there is something more to it than that as well, like that the child didn't feel safe with its parents either so that he didn't see any other way out.

But yeah just suck it up you whiner.

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Tremolina said:

Timmy84 said:

I hope the court is not that foolish to seriously try such a case... what a whining baby.

Yeah, because there should be no consequences to bad parenting whatsoever right? When you failed to perform your contractual duties you may just be liable for millions and when you got hurt by somebody physically or emotionally you may just get damages into the millions, but when your parents have fucked you over your entire childhood and destroyed your life as a kid, you are a whining baby?

Sounds real reasonable timmy. But fact is that most problems (young) people suffer from, and some of those problems are really extremely serious effecting them negatively for their entire lives, have EVRYTHING to do with their parent's upbringing.

So should he be able to sue? Fuck yeah. If his parents were indeed guilty of destroying his childhood and his departure from home at the age of 12. The only question here is whether he can prove his parents abused him like that, causing him to leave home by 12. He possibly can't because it's too long ago and he hasn't kept any evidence of it. That then would be the only legal reason why it should be thrown out.

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Homeless freeloader files suit against Bedford-Stuyvesant parents to open two Domino's Pizza franchises

Aspiring record mogul Bernard Bey filed $200,000 lawsuit claiming his parents have been 'indifferent' to his 'problems.' 'I feel abandoned,' he told the Daily News Wednesday outside his homeless shelter. His family wants little to do with the troubled man, and even won't let him in the home to shower, Bey claims.

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Homeless Bernard Bey, 32, says parents should mortgage brownstone (top left) to “break the bonds of poverty.” Photo by Jesse Ward

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Homeless Bernard Bey, 32, says parents should mortgage brownstone to “break the bonds of poverty.”

Mommy, can you spare a dime?

A homeless 32-year-old Brooklyn man wants a judge to force his parents to pay him a hefty allowance.

In papers filed in Brooklyn Supreme Court, aspiring record mogul Bernard Bey says his parents have been "indifferent" to his "problems," and should pay him $200,000 to make things right.

"I feel abandoned," Bey told the Daily News Wednesday, outside the downtown Brooklyn homeless shelter where he's currently staying. "The relationship I share with my parents is not a beneficial one. Not a loving, nurturing one."

His suit offered up a recipe for his success, suggesting his family mortgage their Bed-Stuy brownstone - his parents have a 1/8 share - and use the money to "purchase two cost effective franchises such as Domino's Pizza" to help him afford a lifestyle different than the one he's accustomed to.

His mom, Vickie Anderson, offered an alternative solution.

"I say go get a job," said the mom, who lives in the Bushwick Houses. "He's never had a job a day in his life."

"He's looking for money so he doesn't care who he has to step on," fumed Anderson, 51.

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Bernard Bey, 32, is suing his family to have them mortgage their home at 245 Madison St. in Bed-Stuy and open a Domino's Pizza franchise for him with the proceeds.

"I've had a lifetime of him and I'm done. I'm done."

Bey's uncle, Benny Manley, who lives in the brownstone, said he was unaware of his nephew's plan to take out a mortgage on the shabby two story abode - then started ranting about the Book of Revelation.

"The Bible said this day was going to come," Manley warned.

In his long-winded, self-written lawsuit, Bey laid all of his problems at his family's feet.

He claimed his parents were physically and emotionally abusive - even failing to attend his trade school graduation.

Their actions over the years "have caused deep rooted wounds that cannot heal on their own," the suit says.

They "are indifferent to their children's problems, relationship, poverty, status and station in life."

When Bey recently asked them for money, they gave him some, but they didn't seem happy about, he whined.

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Bernard Bey's mom, Vickie Anderson, says the man should 'go get a job' instead of asking for money. 'I've had a lifetime of him and I'm done.'

Financial assistance was "provided, although painstakingly," the suit groused.

Bey, whose rap pseudonym is "Brooklyn Streets," said his parents drew the line at letting him use their shower, leaving him "feeling filthy and disgusting, cold, hungry, unloved and beaten by the world."

Asked what he was hoping to accomplish with the suit, Bey - who said he is studying to become an auto mechanic when not hawking $30 t-shirts with his face on them on his Brooklyn Streets website - argued he was showing a path for his family to "break the bonds of poverty" and achieve financial security.

"I feel this is the best way to make things right," he said.

Family members dismissed Bey as a man with psychological issues and a lengthy rap sheet who tried to sue his folks once before.

"This is someone who's looking for something for nothing," said his dad, Bernard Manley.

The family said Bey has five other siblings - none of whom are interested in joining the loony lawsuit.

"It's frivolous, it's nonsense," said Bey's brother, adding, "I'm a Papa John's man myself."

Bey's website says he spent five years in prison on drug charges, and that his life's goal is "becoming a record mogul and a force to be reckoned with in the hip hop industry."

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Reply #15 posted 02/25/13 4:24pm

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Tremolina said:

JustErin said:

Yeah, let's compare it to kids that are bullied constantly. They should just buck up and get over it, afterall they are the master of their own destiny.

Exactly. Somehow kids are just supposed to take it, suck it up and stop whining.

'Grown ups' however can whine and cry about damages forever.

Just read another story about a 9 year old committing suicide in the UK. Apparantly bullying was a factor. Usually there is something more to it than that as well, like that the child didn't feel safe with its parents either so that he didn't see any other way out.

But yeah just suck it up you whiner.

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The fact that you're comparing a 32 year old man to a 9 year old is a testament to the ridiculousness of your argument.

We're not dealing with an abused child. We're dealing with a grown man trying to bleed money from his parents.

But go ahead and add legistlation to parenting. See what that gets you.

If you truly feel that it's beneficial to hold people legally accountable for their parenting skills, then let's take it to the next level and legislate who can and who cannot have children.

Ridiculous.

My favorite part of this story;

When Bey recently asked them for money, they gave him some, but they didn't seem happy about, he whined.

...maybe some of you orgers can start a fund for this guy's sorrows, I'll create the paypal account for you. And make sure you plaster a smile on your face when you hand him the check.

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Reply #16 posted 02/25/13 4:39pm

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There's people defending this?! eek

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Reply #17 posted 02/25/13 4:45pm

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PurpleJedi said:

Tremolina said:

The fact that you're comparing a 32 year old man to a 9 year old is a testament to the ridiculousness of your argument.

How so? Is he somehow not the same person anymore? Did somehow what happened in his youth not matter anymore?

We're not dealing with an abused child. We're dealing with a grown man trying to bleed money from his parents.

How do you know that?

But go ahead and add legistlation to parenting. See what that gets you.

No legislation is needed. Like I said, already existing tort law should suffice.

If you truly feel that it's beneficial to hold people legally accountable for their parenting skills, then let's take it to the next level and legislate who can and who cannot have children.

Ridiculous.

Two entirely different tpics, so the comparison is ridiclous yes.

My favorite part of this story;

When Bey recently asked them for money, they gave him some, but they didn't seem happy about, he whined.

...maybe some of you orgers can start a fund for this guy's sorrows, I'll create the paypal account for you. And make sure you plaster a smile on your face when you hand him the check.

Why do you get so sarcastic? Nobody is talking about you personally. You focus on this guy only and immediately assume that he is just out to get monetary damages when nothing bad has happened. You don't even know exactly what is going on there, except for some article.

The discussion Justerin and I try to have based on this is about the principle that it should not be "normal" for bad parents to escape liability, just because the kid should stop "whining".

THAT is a "ridiculous" opinion really.

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Reply #18 posted 02/25/13 4:48pm

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Timmy84 said:

There's people defending this?! eek

Oh maybe we should stop "whining" too? Sheesh, like you guys opinion is actually "normal". lol

Did you know that parents are liable when their child causes damages? Why should they not be liable for damaging ther child?

I wonder how you would feel if your life was fucked up like that, but obviously you guys lack empathy and do not realise one bit how much damage is caused to society by bad parenting either.

'Great' discussion.

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Reply #19 posted 02/25/13 4:48pm

Timmy84

How do we know if his parents were "bad" though?

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Reply #20 posted 02/25/13 4:49pm

Timmy84

Tremolina said:

Timmy84 said:

There's people defending this?! eek

Oh maybe we should stop "whining" too? Sheesh, like you guys opinion is actually "normal". lol

Did you know that parents are liable when their child causes damages? Why should they not be liable for damaging ther child?

I wonder how you would feel if your life was fucked up like that, but obviously you guys lack empathy and do not realise one bit how much damage is caused to society by bad parenting either.

'Great' discussion.

Well neither side has explained much. It just seems like a crazy ass lawsuit to me! But hey, suit y'all selves I guess.

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Reply #21 posted 02/25/13 4:50pm

Tremolina

Timmy84 said:

Tremolina said:

Oh maybe we should stop "whining" too? Sheesh, like you guys opinion is actually "normal". lol

Did you know that parents are liable when their child causes damages? Why should they not be liable for damaging ther child?

I wonder how you would feel if your life was fucked up like that, but obviously you guys lack empathy and do not realise one bit how much damage is caused to society by bad parenting either.

'Great' discussion.

Well neither side has explained much. It just seems like a crazy ass lawsuit to me! But hey, suit y'all selves I guess.

Whatever seems to you, doesn't make it so.

One more point: in the sttes you can sue about literally everything, for example you sold me a bad turkey sandwich, now I will sue you!

But for bad parenting this should not be the case? Amazing really.

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Reply #22 posted 02/25/13 4:51pm

Timmy84

And I'll leave with this:

He's not a child anymore and until he presents evidence he was abused, I'm gonna call it for what it is: bullshit.

But go on and argue to the moon about why the kid should sue his parents for "love". peace!

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Reply #23 posted 02/25/13 4:51pm

Timmy84

Tremolina said:

Timmy84 said:

Well neither side has explained much. It just seems like a crazy ass lawsuit to me! But hey, suit y'all selves I guess.

Whatever seems to you, doesn't make it so.

One more point: in the sttes you can sue about literally everything, for example you sold me a bad turkey sandwich, now I will sue you!

But for bad parenting this should not be the case? Amazing really.

No that's bullshit but believe what you wanna believe...

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Reply #24 posted 02/25/13 5:00pm

Tremolina

Timmy84 said:

Tremolina said:

Whatever seems to you, doesn't make it so.

One more point: in the sttes you can sue about literally everything, for example you sold me a bad turkey sandwich, now I will sue you!

But for bad parenting this should not be the case? Amazing really.

No that's bullshit but believe what you wanna believe...

That's not a belief, that's a fact.

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Reply #25 posted 02/25/13 5:03pm

Tremolina

Timmy84 said:

And I'll leave with this:

He's not a child anymore and until he presents evidence he was abused, I'm gonna call it for what it is: bullshit.

But go on and argue to the moon about why the kid should sue his parents for "love". peace!

Once more, you can't judge this particular case just on some sensational headline of an incomplete article. The guy didn't say he wasn't "loved" enough, that's what the sensationalist headline says.

Further, I said already that he would have to prove abuse and that it was the cause of him leaving home at 12. If he can't that should be the reason to throw out his case. But not that he should stop "whining" as you folks so eloquently put it.

Clear no?

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Reply #26 posted 02/25/13 5:10pm

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^^^We already have laws regarding child abuse.

If a child is being abused, then the community needs to step in and help that child...report the parents to CPS and get them out of harms' way. Those laws exist. They're not perfect, and because we DON'T live in a police state, sometimes the authorities cannot do what they feel SHOULD be done to remove a child from a home. The reality is different from the theory. My ex worked with a child who everyone suspected was being abused. Not physically...emotionally. It was a horrible situation. But because certain proof needs to be witnessed and documented, they couldn't just take the kid.

Our society has moved away from "communal" child-rearing and we've developed this "Mind Your Own Business" mindset when it comes to ANYTHING personal.

If you honestly feel that the shmuck in the article - or even my ex's student when he grows to be a disturbed adult - has the right to sue his parents for having a messed up childhood, then THINK your argument out to its logical conclusion.

You are legislating parenting. By holding parents legally accountable for the "happiness" of their children, you are by default mandating certain protocols when it comes to child-rearing. Who is going to set those standards? If I refuse to buy my children Playstation 4 and they get taunted by their peers, am I facing litigation 20 years from now?

I have a good friend who is dealing with her neglectful mother, 15 years after she abandoned the home in pursuit of a rockstar life. My friend is dealing with the emotional consequences as an adult. She is keeping her distance from this woman and bettering herself through working and building a life for herself. She does NOT need to sue her mother. She needs the support of her friends and family (and a therapist) to overcome her emotional trauma and move forward. The mom is dealing with a daughter who doesn't want to be a part of her life. That is punishment enough.

By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory!
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Reply #27 posted 02/25/13 6:14pm

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Timmy84 said:

How do we know if his parents were "bad" though?

We don't.

But I'm commenting more on the idea of being able to do this more than this particular case since we don't know anything about it really, just what a couple of sensational articles decide to tell us.

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Reply #28 posted 02/25/13 6:23pm

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Tremolina said:

Timmy84 said:

There's people defending this?! eek

Oh maybe we should stop "whining" too? Sheesh, like you guys opinion is actually "normal". lol

Did you know that parents are liable when their child causes damages? Why should they not be liable for damaging ther child?

I wonder how you would feel if your life was fucked up like that, but obviously you guys lack empathy and do not realise one bit how much damage is caused to society by bad parenting either.

'Great' discussion.

North American culture is not an empathetic one.

It's the biggest tragedy of our times, in my opinion.

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Reply #29 posted 02/25/13 6:45pm

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I hope folks realize that kids throughout history have ran away from home for a variety of reason, in some cases it was abuse and sometimes just because they were simply pissed off for whatever reason at the time and wanted to punish/scare their parents.

On the other hand there are a ton of throwaway kids, dropouts and such who literally are not getting parental guidance but there have been programs implemented to have parents reimburse the "state" for it's lost in cost and whatever, but those programs usually go down the tube due to budget cuts unable to pay the personnel to run this programs, coupled with the fact that most parents of such kids don't have 2 nickels to rub together themselves. So sueing such parents wouldn't embarass them within their social circle like it would with some parents, since they know nobody would get a dime from them anyway, therefore it just a waste of time and somebody else's money.

Basically, I just see this as another thing to glut-up the legal system, and not something anybody really cares enough to actually fund.

And I know I got my fair share of butt spankings, and I know to this day, I was loved to pieces and folks were scared to death for me, maybe a bit too much sometimes, but I know they did what they knew to do as best they could, what the hell else can someone expect outta another human being.

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