How does Firefox work on Linux?

Timmy84 said:

How does Firefox work on Linux?

Very well.

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

How does Firefox work on Linux?

Very well.

It's not sluggish or anything?

Timmy84 said:

TonyVanDam said:

Very well.

It's not sluggish or anything?

Not at all. But then again, I don't use too many extensions/add-ons.

I think we just got our first convert

Timmy84 - when are you switching to Linux?

domainator2010 said:

I think we just got our first convert

Timmy84 - when are you switching to Linux?

Don't know. Don't I need to pay for it?

Timmy84 said:

domainator2010 said:

I think we just got our first convert

Timmy84 - when are you switching to Linux?

Don't know. Don't I need to pay for it?

All Linux distros are free. For the moment, the most user-friendly one that I recommend for beginners is Linux Mint.

But the best thing about Linux is that there are many options. No matter which distro you choose (Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, etc.), it all Linux.

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I like Firefox best

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

Don't know. Don't I need to pay for it?

All Linux distros are free. For the moment, the most user-friendly one that I recommend for beginners is Linux Mint.

But the best thing about Linux is that there are many options. No matter which distro you choose (Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, etc.), it all Linux.

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I see...

I use Safari. I've tried to like Chrome but I just don't -- mostly because it drives me nuts to have two apps that do the same and I don't want to mess with the system and uninstall Safari.

Dauphin said:

Firefox has had its share of shitty releases

Chrome has had its share of shitty releases

Opera has had its share of shitty releases

Safari is just shitty

IE isn't much better than Safari

Essentially, Third-Party Apps are superior to native clients. But they are not without their drawbacks. And Java/JavaScript/XML/HTML/etc. are just as (if not more) vulnerable as ocx/ActiveX programs to coder error or malware exploits.

I like how Microsoft has committed to scheduled O/S upgrades and Service Packs. The resources they put into Automatic Updates is great too. It's what you expect of a paid organization. And their Office Products are really tough to beat. That's not even talking about their awesome Server products.

That said, I cannot leave a newly installed XP/Vista/Win7/Win8 machine at home for 1 day without the wife or kids putting some sort of malware or toolbar etc. on it. They all Linux now. And they use Google Apps to store their docs. That way I can just throw on the latest version of Mint or MEPIS, or CentOS, or RedHat, or... (depending on what I'm screwing with at that time). As long as they can log on, get Firefox running, and use Clementine and VLC for audio/video, they're happy.

What about Office do you like so much? I've never used it, but have you at least tried LibreOffice?

And what "awesome" server stuff? Have you experienced Apache on Linux? (I've never used it on an actual server or anything).

I always work on the assumption that MS is shitty bloatware that will not work. Since I don't actually sit around comparing Linux systems to MS, I may not know if MS did ever actually release a good product. But even then, if YOU have used both, and want to convince me that *some* MS stuff is good, well, I'm open for a spirited discussion!

domainator2010 said:

Dauphin said:

Firefox has had its share of shitty releases

Chrome has had its share of shitty releases

Opera has had its share of shitty releases

Safari is just shitty

IE isn't much better than Safari

Essentially, Third-Party Apps are superior to native clients. But they are not without their drawbacks. And Java/JavaScript/XML/HTML/etc. are just as (if not more) vulnerable as ocx/ActiveX programs to coder error or malware exploits.

I like how Microsoft has committed to scheduled O/S upgrades and Service Packs. The resources they put into Automatic Updates is great too. It's what you expect of a paid organization. And their Office Products are really tough to beat. That's not even talking about their awesome Server products.

That said, I cannot leave a newly installed XP/Vista/Win7/Win8 machine at home for 1 day without the wife or kids putting some sort of malware or toolbar etc. on it. They all Linux now. And they use Google Apps to store their docs. That way I can just throw on the latest version of Mint or MEPIS, or CentOS, or RedHat, or... (depending on what I'm screwing with at that time). As long as they can log on, get Firefox running, and use Clementine and VLC for audio/video, they're happy.

What about Office do you like so much? I've never used it, but have you at least tried LibreOffice?

And what "awesome" server stuff? Have you experienced Apache on Linux? (I've never used it on an actual server or anything).

I always work on the assumption that MS is shitty bloatware that will not work. Since I don't actually sit around comparing Linux systems to MS, I may not know if MS did ever actually release a good product. But even then, if YOU have used both, and want to convince me that *some* MS stuff is good, well, I'm open for a spirited discussion!

I use LibreOffice all the time and OpenOffice before it (StarOffice too). I'm posting from my Linux Mint 14 laptop right now. We can get into the nuts and bolts of the value of LO/OoO vs MSO, but remember that it's MS Office that is the standard maker.

Not that I'm a fan of MS taking established standards like XML and turning it into a proprietary fusion with their code, but that's part of the game.

And I use LAMP for various tasks too. But I've had very similar uptimes and performance with Win2003+IIS+MSSQL.

Dauphin said:

We can get into the nuts and bolts of the value of LO/OoO vs MSO, but remember that it's MS Office that is the standard maker.

And I use LAMP for various tasks too. But I've had very similar uptimes and performance with Win2003+IIS+MSSQL.

Let's take this to orgNotes then!

As for the latter, I'm sorry to hear that! Did you use the same hardware you did for Linux as you did with Windoze?

Also, just out of curiosity, what does the ORG run on? I *hope* to hell it's not Win!

Firefox works well on Linux, but the updating schemes can be a bit difficult on some distributions. I suppose the "Ubuntu" type of distros will handly much of it automatically, but I wouldn't count on it working 100%.

On my own Debian based setup it took me ages to figure out that to update Flash I just needed to extract the (.so) library file from the download archive from the Adobe website and manually copy it over the old one in usr/share directories that had the old version of the file (yes, there can be several). Easy when you've figured it out - it's just that nobody had bothered to provide proper instructions on how to do it. That's what using Linux is often like.

You'll certainly need to develop an understanding of how the system works if you want to be able to maintain your setup yourself. Having said that, Linux itself doesn't really need "updating" like Windows or Mac OS does, but you'll need to keep the browsers and the plugins up to date for the web.

Dauphin said:

domainator2010 said:

What about Office do you like so much? I've never used it, but have you at least tried LibreOffice?

And what "awesome" server stuff? Have you experienced Apache on Linux? (I've never used it on an actual server or anything).

I always work on the assumption that MS is shitty bloatware that will not work. Since I don't actually sit around comparing Linux systems to MS, I may not know if MS did ever actually release a good product. But even then, if YOU have used both, and want to convince me that *some* MS stuff is good, well, I'm open for a spirited discussion!

I use LibreOffice all the time and OpenOffice before it (StarOffice too). I'm posting from my Linux Mint 14 laptop right now. We can get into the nuts and bolts of the value of LO/OoO vs MSO, but remember that it's MS Office that is the standard maker.

Not that I'm a fan of MS taking established standards like XML and turning it into a proprietary fusion with their code, but that's part of the game.

And I use LAMP for various tasks too. But I've had very similar uptimes and performance with Win2003+IIS+MSSQL.

But LibreOffice will suppass MS Office as "the standard" in due time. It's cross-platform and it's freeware.

And lets not sleep on Abiword. This word processing freeware is a throwback inspired by the good ole days of Word Prefect. And it doesn't take too much room on the hard drive as MS Office or Libreoffice.

Yes, I wanted to say that about LibreOffice too (though I've never used it properly, or MSOffice).

And Tony, talking of Abiword, have you ever used the Dynebolic distro? It's EXTREMELY cool!

domainator2010 said:

Yes, I wanted to say that about LibreOffice too (though I've never used it properly, or MSOffice).

And Tony, talking of Abiword, have you ever used the Dynebolic distro? It's EXTREMELY cool!

No, but I've heard about it.

TonyVanDam said:

domainator2010 said:

Yes, I wanted to say that about LibreOffice too (though I've never used it properly, or MSOffice).

And Tony, talking of Abiword, have you ever used the Dynebolic distro? It's EXTREMELY cool!

No, but I've heard about it.

Try it out - www.dynebolic.org . If you can, BUY it - I desperately want to support them, because I LOVE them, and they haven't had a release in like, 5 or 6 years!

Well, that sure makes me want to try out a multimedia-oriented distro.

domainator2010 said:

TonyVanDam said:

No, but I've heard about it.

Try it out - www.dynebolic.org . If you can, BUY it - I desperately want to support them, because I LOVE them, and they haven't had a release in like, 5 or 6 years!

If I have to pay for dynebolic, the same way that I have to pay for Red Hat, then forget about it. I'm a strong advocate that all Linux distros should be freeware 24/7, with donations as their only true legit finanical support.

But then there is the bittorrent edition!

No no, Dynebolic IS freeware, you can get it from the site. If you buy a CD, I think they'll send you a branded one, which is simply another way of donating.

Just go to the site.

domainator2010 said:

No no, Dynebolic IS freeware, you can get it from the site. If you buy a CD, I think they'll send you a branded one, which is simply another way of donating.

Just go to the site.

I will. Thanks.