smoothcriminal12 said:

Timmy84 said:

Kinda makes you wonder about Richard though... reading parts of his book, I think he made up the gay parts of his life. Sure he had experiences in drag and he jacked off in front of couples (which he calls "gay experiences"), but it seemed he only really had relationships (and sexual relations) with women. He was obsessed with Audrey Robinson (she was in college when she met him according to Richard) and even after he became a minister, he wanted to still see her but Audrey felt him being a minister and her being (now) a stripper was not going to let the relationship get anywhere. But I was surprised myself when I read about Richard. I was like "noooo, can't be. Little Richard?!"

I never thought he was gay....just flamboyant and provocative, like Prince. And da fuuuuuuq at the bolded?!

Yeah! there is this G Rated Little Richard movie where he is liking making out in the parking lot while some guy watches...

It was a taste of what really went on

This stuff is crazy!... then again i was heartbroken to hear Stevie Wonder was a hoe

smoothcriminal12 said:

Timmy84 said:

Kinda makes you wonder about Richard though... reading parts of his book, I think he made up the gay parts of his life. Sure he had experiences in drag and he jacked off in front of couples (which he calls "gay experiences"), but it seemed he only really had relationships (and sexual relations) with women. He was obsessed with Audrey Robinson (she was in college when she met him according to Richard) and even after he became a minister, he wanted to still see her but Audrey felt him being a minister and her being (now) a stripper was not going to let the relationship get anywhere. But I was surprised myself when I read about Richard. I was like "noooo, can't be. Little Richard?!"

I never thought he was gay....just flamboyant and provocative, like Prince. And da fuuuuuuq at the bolded?!

Yeah Richard told Charles White his offstage activities consisted of being a voyeur. Almost every other night, he'd venture to places where straight couples frequented and jack off while the couples were doing the do. Did you know this fool excused it as his "gay activities"?! It's like dude, MARVIN was a voyeur (well in his own bedrooms) and he wasn't gay so shut up. He got caught twice doing that and was arrested. The second time occurred after he and his only wife separated. According to that wife, she and Richard normally fucked. This was during Richard's conversion period. Also, some dude in the Bible college he attended showed himself to Richard and Richard basically said "don't do that" and dude later told on himself. They apologized to Richard but he was too embarrassed that he left the college for a few years (he later returned to graduate with a degree in theology). I don't know why Richard keeps saying he's gay. Other than his flamboyant attitude and androgynous manner, he never struck me as g-a-y. It's like what Audrey Robinson said, "Richard has a lot of imagination". Other than that one time when Richard was 18 (and even that's debatable), there's not too many actual "gay moments" in his book.

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Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

I never thought he was gay....just flamboyant and provocative, like Prince. And da fuuuuuuq at the bolded?!

Yeah Richard told Charles White his offstage activities consisted of being a voyeur. Almost every other night, he'd venture to places where straight couples frequented and jack off while the couples were doing the do. Did you know this fool excused it as his "gay activities"?! It's like dude, MARVIN was a voyeur (well in his own bedrooms) and he wasn't gay so shut up. He got caught twice doing that and was arrested. The second time occurred after he and his only wife separated. According to that wife, she and Richard normally fucked. This was during Richard's conversion period. Also, some dude in the Bible college he attended showed himself to Richard and Richard basically said "don't do that" and dude later told on himself. They apologized to Richard but he was too embarrassed that he left the college for a few years (he later returned to graduate with a degree in theology). I don't know why Richard keeps saying he's gay. Other than his flamboyant attitude and androgynous manner, he never struck me as g-a-y. It's like what Audrey Robinson said, "Richard has a lot of imagination". Other than that one time when Richard was 18 (and even that's debatable), there's not too many actual "gay moments" in his book.

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I need to lie down.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah Richard told Charles White his offstage activities consisted of being a voyeur. Almost every other night, he'd venture to places where straight couples frequented and jack off while the couples were doing the do. Did you know this fool excused it as his "gay activities"?! It's like dude, MARVIN was a voyeur (well in his own bedrooms) and he wasn't gay so shut up. He got caught twice doing that and was arrested. The second time occurred after he and his only wife separated. According to that wife, she and Richard normally fucked. This was during Richard's conversion period. Also, some dude in the Bible college he attended showed himself to Richard and Richard basically said "don't do that" and dude later told on himself. They apologized to Richard but he was too embarrassed that he left the college for a few years (he later returned to graduate with a degree in theology). I don't know why Richard keeps saying he's gay. Other than his flamboyant attitude and androgynous manner, he never struck me as g-a-y. It's like what Audrey Robinson said, "Richard has a lot of imagination". Other than that one time when Richard was 18 (and even that's debatable), there's not too many actual "gay moments" in his book.

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I need to lie down.

So did Mr. Penniman. He needed to sit down and, in his own voice, SHUT UP! I love ya still though, Richard.

imago said:

PurpleJedi said:

If you're having this argument in Thailand, then we can't comment much.

But as for the USA...the more money you have, the better legal team you can hire, and the more you can get away with.

It's all about money. Fame? Not so much.

I'm having that discussion with westerners (and a few western educated Asians), mostly focused on western stars and people in power who get away with ...everything. It stemmed from a case here in Thailand about a girl (16 at the time) who was wrecklessly driving and crashed her car into a van killing 9 people.

She was:

1. unlicensed ( her parents bought the car)

2. driving far, far, faaarrrrr beyond the speed limit.

3. believed to be on her cellphone when it happened.

After the accident, she didn't walk over to the other van (someone was actually dangling over the rails). Rather, she started texting from her phone.

Had she hit a van of non-educated Thais, it would have NEVER made the news, but she actually hit middle and upper middle class, educated professors from the third most elite University in Thailand. So, it made the news.

However, her family is rich. The trial was delayed multiple times, once at the girl's request to investigate the 'recklessness' of the van driver. The another delay at the request of her family to have the girl and the victims' family's go into 'meditation' and 'prayer' together--the girl never actually met with the family members during that time.

In the end, she was given a 2 year prison sentence, which she never served because the judge included the 'trial' time, which took 2 years.

There was video evidence. There were multiple witnesses. And she spent not a single day in jail.

So, in Thailand, if you have money, you can buy your way out of ANYTHING.

But, the conversation is mostly about western attitudes towards money, power, and justice. I don't think the west is THAT much better--more discreet certainly. Dick Cheney should be in prison right now.

super rich kids

Taylor Swift maybe, she have sex with anything that moves now.

Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

I need to lie down.

So did Mr. Penniman. He needed to sit down and, in his own voice, SHUT UP! I love ya still though, Richard.

He's so damn extra.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Timmy84 said:

So did Mr. Penniman. He needed to sit down and, in his own voice, SHUT UP! I love ya still though, Richard.

He's so damn extra.

kpowers said:

Taylor Swift maybe, she have sex with anything that moves now.

......except for black men. But I wouldn't mind being her first.

SUPRMAN said:

imago said:

80% of the conversation crowd is insisting fame and money don't make a big difference, and I don't believe it.

I think even for the worst crimes, child molestation, murder, etc. they get off lighter, but they get off lightest with molestation. I have nothing to back this up but a 'feeling' which is why I started this thread.

Basically, I want to win the argument.

So you need research but you aren't going to do it even though said research would make you the winner. Ok.

Who says I'm not doing it?

Who says I needed it?

What the hell kind of pointless post is this bullshit?

Let's come up with a third throery your conjecture-trigger-happy ass hasn't thought of. I'm doing the afore mentioned research, but also thought I'd ask orgers to engage in some dialogue.