The nut doesnt fall far from the tree.

debbiedean2 said:

Wow, for years everyone blamed Bobby for getting Whitney hooked on drugs and her big brother just admitted to introducing her to cocaine!

I've always said that Bobby wasn't the one that got her on drugs and got irritated when folks would swear up and down that she was this angel until she got with Bobby. But to realize that her brother is the one who got her started...wow.

missfee said:

debbiedean2 said:

Wow, for years everyone blamed Bobby for getting Whitney hooked on drugs and her big brother just admitted to introducing her to cocaine!

I've always said that Bobby wasn't the one that got her on drugs and got irritated when folks would swear up and down that she was this angel until she got with Bobby. But to realize that her brother is the one who got her started...wow.

I agree with you 101%

But what gets me is that during the interview Cissy seems to blame Bobby for everything! She says that she now that Whitney was no angel, but her body language is saying something totally different!

debbiedean2 said:

missfee said:

I've always said that Bobby wasn't the one that got her on drugs and got irritated when folks would swear up and down that she was this angel until she got with Bobby. But to realize that her brother is the one who got her started...wow.

I agree with you 101%

But what gets me is that during the interview Cissy seems to blame Bobby for everything! She says that she now that Whitney was no angel, but her body language is saying something totally different!

Well I did myself a favor and DIDN'T watch the interview. For the exact reason you have mentioned. Whit's gone now and Bobby's left to play the "blame game" with. That man has enough on him, and while he is "no angel", Whit was no angel either (as Cissy said)...and when you put two non-angels together what do you get? A big hot ass mess. They may have loved each other, but at the same time, they were no good for each other. Whit was no more a better influence on Bobby as he was on her.

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PatrickS77 said:

Wow. Grieving high profile mothers and Oprah is the first one to swoop in to do the interviews. That woman knows no shame.

1. Um, the interview subjects can refuse the offer to appear on the show: it takes two sides to complete and televise an interview, you know.

2. From actually viewing the interview (and remembering prior interviews and documentaries with her), Cissy Houston is no one's pawn. She's a tough old dame who does not back down from saying her piece, on her own terms, as she sees fit, and I actually pity the fool that thinks they can pull the wool over the eyes of a woman that strong and no-nonsense.

allsmutaside said:

vainandy said:

I saw a part of the interview where Cissy had her hand on Gary's thigh when he explicitly stated that he had started W out on the drugs. Cissy musta had her shoes on too tight that day is all I can think of.

But I have to say there was a lot of bravery in some of the other things I've read about the interview. "Good mothers and good fathers and good families don't always have great children." "It's all their responsibility when they get to a certain age to choose their way." Don't really know how valid that statement is, but it is bold as hell, and quite unexpected. Little bit crazy to hear her quote what some people were saying about "Whitey" Houston. It seems she has no consideration of Clive and his courting of this position from a $ales$ perspective. And even though it was qualified, it was thrilling to hear her set Bobby free. Can't wait to hear some bullshit about Robin.

I agree that there were definitely some brave moments in this interview. But y'all gotta do better with keeping facts straight: it was not Gary, the eldest brother who we were so often used to seeing perform with Whitney, who introduced her to drugs. It was her rarely seen, barely known of brother Michael.

In my opinion, I did feel like there were moments during his "confession" that his mother looked conflicted back and forth between wanting to put that hand on his knee to help him through his guilt, and, being the stern matriarch that she is, wanting to alternately wrap that hand around his neck.

Ottensen said:

allsmutaside said:

I saw a part of the interview where Cissy had her hand on Gary's thigh when he explicitly stated that he had started W out on the drugs. Cissy musta had her shoes on too tight that day is all I can think of.

But I have to say there was a lot of bravery in some of the other things I've read about the interview. "Good mothers and good fathers and good families don't always have great children." "It's all their responsibility when they get to a certain age to choose their way." Don't really know how valid that statement is, but it is bold as hell, and quite unexpected. Little bit crazy to hear her quote what some people were saying about "Whitey" Houston. It seems she has no consideration of Clive and his courting of this position from a $ales$ perspective. And even though it was qualified, it was thrilling to hear her set Bobby free. Can't wait to hear some bullshit about Robin.

I agree that there were definitely some brave moments in this interview. But y'all gotta do better with keeping facts straight: it was not Gary, the eldest brother who we were so often used to seeing perform with Whitney, who introduced her to drugs. It was her rarely seen, barely known of brother Michael.

In my opinion, I did feel like there were moments during his "confession" that his mother looked conflicted back and forth between wanting to put that hand on his knee to help him through his guilt, and, being the stern matriarch that she is, wanting to alternately wrap that hand around his neck.

Thanks for the correction. I forgot Gary's the one with Pat. I didn't watch anyway lol

TD3 said:

scriptgirl said:

What's Robin Crawford doing these days? My older cousin Reena says that tongues were wagging from jump about Robin and White.

Ms Trina, did Whitney seriously never give Cissy a dime?

No, that isn't what I said. I said most kids when they make big money will hook-up their moms.... even if they don't give others a dime.

No, mother Houston is not joke, just straight up with no chaser. Good interview.

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Cissy Houston is straight old skool, ain't she?

When she got too up in age to whoop her kids behinds, she went and got an injunction with the Po-lice.

Had no qualms about admitting her kids were hard headed, had not a moment's hesitation to name who and what she did not like or would not accept in her daughter's life, and made sure she took Oprah (& Pat) to task for interviewing Gary, Pat, and Chrissy too soon after her daughter's death.

She might be slower in her old age, but she's that type of granny will metaphorically crack you across your butt if she has to. It reminds me of the Houston show episode clip they showed where Pat one day announces in the kitchen that "Grandma is arriving today!", and all the grandkids choked on their food ready to run for the hills; in their talking head remarks afterwards, I believe the phrases "Grandma is no joke" , and "that cane of hers is lethal" were uttered

missfee said:

debbiedean2 said:

I agree with you 101%

But what gets me is that during the interview Cissy seems to blame Bobby for everything! She says that she now that Whitney was no angel, but her body language is saying something totally different!

Well I did myself a favor and DIDN'T watch the interview. For the exact reason you have mentioned. Whit's gone now and Bobby's left to play the "blame game" with. That man has enough on him, and while he is "no angel", Whit was no angel either (as Cissy said)...and when you put two non-angels together what do you get? A big hot ass mess. They may have loved each other, but at the same time, they were no good for each other. Whit was no more a better influence on Bobby as he was on her.

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Actually, the interview really is worth watching, because I think it clarifies a lot. I didn't take from it that she blamed Bobby for everything, rather than she just didn't think he was good enough for her daughter, and still has an issue with him because of the physical conflicts Whit revealed on Oprah( eg, the spitting on her). But I didn't see her place blame on anyone vs. admitting that her children grew up to be hard-headed, and that no matter how much you want to as a parent you cannot control your grown children's decisions...

...and that she wanted to kill Nippy when she found out she was getting high. She's a very...I guess you could call it "forthcoming" woman... so to me I saw her more of a tough nut to crack who wouldn't wuss out by playing the blame game on anyone; she's very "say it like you mean it".

What I did find interesting though, is that in Michael admitting how this drug stuff started, I got a chance to look at that whole issue from a new perspective. Imagine, being young, rich, and on the road in the 80's, with drugs likely all around you. In my mind, I'm thinking, in a situation like that, who didn't try coke in the 80's? I'm thinking about So many performers...Chaka, Stevie Nicks, Grace Jones, Rick James, allegedly the Purple One himself... But the Houston kids got caught up & ended up being the statistic that didn't make it/barely made it out alive. I believe it could have happened to anyone in the situation they were in...and they just didn't make it back from the dark side.

For those who would like to check out the interview in its' entirety for themselves:

Next Chapter | Cissy Hous...ailymotion

Ottensen said:

For those who would like to check out the interview in its' entirety for themselves:

Next Chapter | Cissy Hous...ailymotion

Thanks.

OldFriends4Sale said:

People remember others in death as they did in life, you can't really edit out the parts you don't want to remember People aren't going to Oprah because they think she cares, most people know that is Interview central, so Cissy and everyone else will and have interviewed with eyes wide open

Your post would make perfect sense if this was her FIRST interview talking about Whitneys drug problems. This is like her 10th interview since Whitney has passed talking about her drug problem. Once something has been revealed already it does not need to be rehatched again and again especially if it is something negative. If I had a daughter and she had drug issues after talking on it ONCE, I would not continue to do a million interviews talking about the same thing. Its absurd.I think she is just trying to profit off Whitneys passing, sorry.

Its no secret Whitney had drug problems... Whitney HERSELF talked about her own issues... so her having a drug problem is not the problem.

Its nothing wrong with being honest and real but its another when your use a negative about a person to your advantage especially when someone is no longer here to defend themself

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Ottensen said:

TD3 said:

No, that isn't what I said. I said most kids when they make big money will hook-up their moms.... even if they don't give others a dime.

No, mother Houston is not joke, just straight up with no chaser. Good interview.

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Cissy Houston is straight old skool, ain't she?

When she got too up in age to whoop her kids behinds, she went and got an injunction with the Po-lice.

Had no qualms about admitting her kids were hard headed, had not a moment's hesitation to name who and what she did not like or would not accept in her daughter's life, and made sure she took Oprah (& Pat) to task for interviewing Gary, Pat, and Chrissy too soon after her daughter's death.

She might be slower in her old age, but she's that type of granny will metaphorically crack you across your butt if she has to. It reminds me of the Houston show episode clip they showed where Pat one day announces in the kitchen that "Grandma is arriving today!", and all the grandkids choked on their food ready to run for the hills; in their talking head remarks afterwards, I believe the phrases "Grandma is no joke" , and "that cane of hers is lethal" were uttered

A women who didn't view her children through rose color glasses.

Look. Nobody has a baby and says gleefully, when my son or daughter are all grown-up they are going to be crack addicts. All parents can do is rear their children... hope and pray when they step into the world they choose right more times than they do wrong. It sometimes feels as if its a craps shoot and that's scary.

I got the impression B.K. has some mouth. Mother Houston isn't having any of that silliness, so if old girl can't deal with granny... than granny thoughts are keep your tail in Atlanta.

PatrickS77 said:

Wow. Grieving high profile mothers and Oprah is the first one to swoop in to do the interviews. That woman knows no shame.

Oprah Winfrey is no different (and maybe better) than Barbara Walters in getting high profile interviews. imo Oprah touches the people in a positive way.

she may not be the best messenger for many folks, however maybe some of her critics can send her a script or a letter to instruct her on how to be a better interviewer. I'm sure they'd know.

Ottensen said:

missfee said:

Well I did myself a favor and DIDN'T watch the interview. For the exact reason you have mentioned. Whit's gone now and Bobby's left to play the "blame game" with. That man has enough on him, and while he is "no angel", Whit was no angel either (as Cissy said)...and when you put two non-angels together what do you get? A big hot ass mess. They may have loved each other, but at the same time, they were no good for each other. Whit was no more a better influence on Bobby as he was on her.

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Actually, the interview really is worth watching, because I think it clarifies a lot. I didn't take from it that she blamed Bobby for everything, rather than she just didn't think he was good enough for her daughter, and still has an issue with him because of the physical conflicts Whit revealed on Oprah( eg, the spitting on her). But I didn't see her place blame on anyone vs. admitting that her children grew up to be hard-headed, and that no matter how much you want to as a parent you cannot control your grown children's decisions...

...and that she wanted to kill Nippy when she found out she was getting high. She's a very...I guess you could call it "forthcoming" woman... so to me I saw her more of a tough nut to crack who wouldn't wuss out by playing the blame game on anyone; she's very "say it like you mean it".

What I did find interesting though, is that in Michael admitting how this drug stuff started, I got a chance to look at that whole issue from a new perspective. Imagine, being young, rich, and on the road in the 80's, with drugs likely all around you. In my mind, I'm thinking, in a situation like that, who didn't try coke in the 80's? I'm thinking about So many performers...Chaka, Stevie Nicks, Grace Jones, Rick James, allegedly the Purple One himself... But the Houston kids got caught up & ended up being the statistic that didn't make it/barely made it out alive. I believe it could have happened to anyone in the situation they were in...and they just didn't make it back from the dark side.

I'm over the discussion about Oprah. Cissy wanted to do the interview so it's whatever...

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I just finally got a chance to sit down and watch the interview and It was quite revealing, people can stand on their sand box and talk about what Ms Cissy should do or not do but im on the outside looking in and even though i was a fan of Whitney i don't pretend to know why or even care why she wrote the book and did the interview, but i'll tell you this. Ms Cissy aint no push over the way she told Oprah that she was not Happy about that interview right after Whitney's death let me know she wanted to talk about her daughter..It aint my place to say what she can or should not do.. she gave that chick life and she lost a child not me...

banks said:

I just finally got a chance to sit down and watch the interview and It was quite revealing, people can stand on their sand box and talk about what Ms Cissy should do or not do but im on the outside looking in and even though i was a fan of Whitney i don't pretend to know why or even care why she wrote the book and did the interview, but i'll tell you this. Ms Cissy aint no push over the way she told Oprah that she was not Happy about that interview right after Whitney's death let me know she wanted to talk about her daughter..It aint my place to say what she can or should not do.. she gave that chick life and she lost a child not me...

I just saw the interview myself and I agree 110%... I'm glad she said she hated the Pat interview!

Timmy84 said:

banks said:

I just finally got a chance to sit down and watch the interview and It was quite revealing, people can stand on their sand box and talk about what Ms Cissy should do or not do but im on the outside looking in and even though i was a fan of Whitney i don't pretend to know why or even care why she wrote the book and did the interview, but i'll tell you this. Ms Cissy aint no push over the way she told Oprah that she was not Happy about that interview right after Whitney's death let me know she wanted to talk about her daughter..It aint my place to say what she can or should not do.. she gave that chick life and she lost a child not me...

I just saw the interview myself and I agree 110%... I'm glad she said she hated the Pat interview!

okaaay!!! she didnt even sugar coat her answer about that interview.. she didnt like it and TOLD Oprah..

and i'm also glad that her brother FINALLY owned up to introducing her to drugs and stating that her drug use started before Bobby .. I had no idea it was Michael that started her down that road but i knew that it started before her and Bobby hooked up...

kitbradley said:

vainandy said:

It's sad to say but Nippy was not truly embraced by the black community until she married Bobby Brown and started making a public spectacle of herself. Prior to that, a lot of people in the black community felt her music was too Pop and wasn't being geared towards them. I thought her being booed at the Soul Train Awards in the 80's was one of the most tasteless, mean-spirited things I had ever witnessed. I know that alone stayed with her for a long time.

I thought her being booed at the "Soul Train Awards" was wonderful and it was like an orgasm to me when I heard about it. She had no place there, nor on R&B radio a few years prior to that because she didn't fit in with the format at the time. She had no more business being played on R&B radio than Charlie Pride did. I can respect Charlie Pride though even if I don't like his music because neither him, nor his record people, tried to put him on R&B radio with the ridiculous way of thinking that just because an artist is black means they belong on R&B radio. White radio didn't lump every white artist of every genre together on one station simply because they were white and black radiio shouldn't have done it either. She belonged on adult contemporary radio only.

As for her marrying Bobby Brown, when I first heard that, I laughed my ass off because it happened after she got booed at the "Soul Train Awards". First, she wanted to play the little goodie goodie, fairy princess and when it backfired on her, then all of a sudden she wants to seem more "black". I would have had more respect for her if she continued her little fairy princess act even after she got booed because if she had, it would have shown that she had a mind of her own and was doing what she really wanted to do regardless of who liked it or not. Instead, it showed what she really was which was a weak minded person with no mind of their own whose biggest concern is what someone else thinks of them and will straddle every fence both musically and personally to kiss ass.

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musicman said:

debbiedean2 said:

Wow, for years everyone blamed Bobby for getting Whitney hooked on drugs and her big brother just admitted to introducing her to cocaine!

Which, I never understood why people kept saying that when even she admitted that Bobby didn't get her hooked on drugs. I knew she had been using cocaine since she was 18. Now, I didn't know it was her brother who introduced drugs to her- that was a revelation for me tonight.

Because it was more to it than just her being on drugs. White entertainers have not only been on drugs for ages, but also celebrated it and flaunted their drug use. She played the goodie goodie role for the soccer mom crowd and when she got with Bobby Brown, they saw her as less "white" than she had previously been.

I attended that Soul Train awards ceremony when she was booed & I felt really bad for her. They edited out most of the boos & slurs when it aired. But I always wondered how she really felt about it. I also always felt she sabotaged her career as a fairy Princess on purpose. Because she was tired of living that fake life & decided to show the real her. Even though I believe she really loved Bobby. I also felt marrying him was to change her image & double life. After that she tried to become more urban & added hip hop dancing to her live performances..WHITNEY IS THE ONE THAT SABOTAGED HER OWN CAREER...

vainandy said:

kitbradley said:

It's sad to say but Nippy was not truly embraced by the black community until she married Bobby Brown and started making a public spectacle of herself. Prior to that, a lot of people in the black community felt her music was too Pop and wasn't being geared towards them. I thought her being booed at the Soul Train Awards in the 80's was one of the most tasteless, mean-spirited things I had ever witnessed. I know that alone stayed with her for a long time.

I thought her being booed at the "Soul Train Awards" was wonderful and it was like an orgasm to me when I heard about it. She had no place there, nor on R&B radio a few years prior to that because she didn't fit in with the format at the time. She had no more business being played on R&B radio than Charlie Pride did. I can respect Charlie Pride though even if I don't like his music because neither him, nor his record people, tried to put him on R&B radio with the ridiculous way of thinking that just because an artist is black means they belong on R&B radio. White radio didn't lump every white artist of every genre together on one station simply because they were white and black radiio shouldn't have done it either. She belonged on adult contemporary radio only.

As for her marrying Bobby Brown, when I first heard that, I laughed my ass off because it happened after she got booed at the "Soul Train Awards". First, she wanted to play the little goodie goodie, fairy princess and when it backfired on her, then all of a sudden she wants to seem more "black". I would have had more respect for her if she continued her little fairy princess act even after she got booed because if she had, it would have shown that she had a mind of her own and was doing what she really wanted to do regardless of who liked it or not. Instead, it showed what she really was which was a weak minded person with no mind of their own whose biggest concern is what someone else thinks of them and will straddle every fence both musically and personally to kiss ass.

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I don't get the joy in seeing someone else getting booed for singing a damn song. I'm sorry I just don't. This just proves that people are so far up about how someone should carry themselves racially thinking that's the only way to prove their "color". Whitney Houston wasn't trying to be anything but herself and people (not naming any names and not picking on you as an example because I'm not gonna do that and take this thread to somewhere it don't need to be) had a problem with that. The reasoning for it had little to do with Whitney and more to do with people who had their own problems with race whether they were black...or TRYING to "be black" whatever the fuck that means.

Timmy84 said:

vainandy said:

I thought her being booed at the "Soul Train Awards" was wonderful and it was like an orgasm to me when I heard about it. She had no place there, nor on R&B radio a few years prior to that because she didn't fit in with the format at the time. She had no more business being played on R&B radio than Charlie Pride did. I can respect Charlie Pride though even if I don't like his music because neither him, nor his record people, tried to put him on R&B radio with the ridiculous way of thinking that just because an artist is black means they belong on R&B radio. White radio didn't lump every white artist of every genre together on one station simply because they were white and black radiio shouldn't have done it either. She belonged on adult contemporary radio only.

As for her marrying Bobby Brown, when I first heard that, I laughed my ass off because it happened after she got booed at the "Soul Train Awards". First, she wanted to play the little goodie goodie, fairy princess and when it backfired on her, then all of a sudden she wants to seem more "black". I would have had more respect for her if she continued her little fairy princess act even after she got booed because if she had, it would have shown that she had a mind of her own and was doing what she really wanted to do regardless of who liked it or not. Instead, it showed what she really was which was a weak minded person with no mind of their own whose biggest concern is what someone else thinks of them and will straddle every fence both musically and personally to kiss ass.

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I don't get the joy in seeing someone else getting booed for singing a damn song. I'm sorry I just don't. This just proves that people are so far up about how someone should carry themselves racially thinking that's the only way to prove their "color". Whitney Houston wasn't trying to be anything but herself and people (not naming any names and not picking on you as an example because I'm not gonna do that and take this thread to somewhere it don't need to be) had a problem with that. The reasoning for it had little to do with Whitney and more to do with people who had their own problems with race whether they were black...or TRYING to "be black" whatever the fuck that means.

So she was simply being herself? You, yourself have said she was doing drugs long before she met Bobby Brown but yet she was playing a goodie two shoes role. That doesn't seem like being yourself to me, that seems like putting on an act. She was fake and people don't like fake.

If she did happen to be booed by her own race for not fitting into the typical role of a black person, well, that's just life. I guarantee you, if I went into a redneck bar, I'd encounter a lot worse from my own race than some booing so she got off lucky. If a person is truly being themselves regardless of whether it fits the norm, they know there are going to be others that don't like what they're doing and when they encounter them, they don't give a damn what they think and if someone says something to them about it, they tell them to kiss their ass. They don't let it bother them and then try to change afterwards. If she was such an "individual", she would have faced the criticsm and fought it rather than back down with her tail between her legs. Little Miss Mary Poppins was a fake fence straddler and it backfired on her.

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Timmy84 said:

vainandy said:

I thought her being booed at the "Soul Train Awards" was wonderful and it was like an orgasm to me when I heard about it. She had no place there, nor on R&B radio a few years prior to that because she didn't fit in with the format at the time. She had no more business being played on R&B radio than Charlie Pride did. I can respect Charlie Pride though even if I don't like his music because neither him, nor his record people, tried to put him on R&B radio with the ridiculous way of thinking that just because an artist is black means they belong on R&B radio. White radio didn't lump every white artist of every genre together on one station simply because they were white and black radiio shouldn't have done it either. She belonged on adult contemporary radio only.

As for her marrying Bobby Brown, when I first heard that, I laughed my ass off because it happened after she got booed at the "Soul Train Awards". First, she wanted to play the little goodie goodie, fairy princess and when it backfired on her, then all of a sudden she wants to seem more "black". I would have had more respect for her if she continued her little fairy princess act even after she got booed because if she had, it would have shown that she had a mind of her own and was doing what she really wanted to do regardless of who liked it or not. Instead, it showed what she really was which was a weak minded person with no mind of their own whose biggest concern is what someone else thinks of them and will straddle every fence both musically and personally to kiss ass.

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I don't get the joy in seeing someone else getting booed for singing a damn song. I'm sorry I just don't. This just proves that people are so far up about how someone should carry themselves racially thinking that's the only way to prove their "color". Whitney Houston wasn't trying to be anything but herself and people (not naming any names and not picking on you as an example because I'm not gonna do that and take this thread to somewhere it don't need to be) had a problem with that. The reasoning for it had little to do with Whitney and more to do with people who had their own problems with race whether they were black...or TRYING to "be black" whatever the fuck that means.

For the most part I agree with Timmy. We've spoken about this before: I never

got the impression Ms. Houston was trying to pull the wool over anyone eyes who she was. A lot of people projected things onto that woman, which was unfair. Until she gave an interview to Essence shortly after she married Bobby Brown, I wasn't aware folks were that trippy about her marring the guy.

Am I a listener of her music no. Well, I have her first album but that's a whole different conversation.

Booing? Well that has alway been and at that time par for the course. Booing not yelling slurs or cussing.

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vainandy said:

Timmy84 said:

I don't get the joy in seeing someone else getting booed for singing a damn song. I'm sorry I just don't. This just proves that people are so far up about how someone should carry themselves racially thinking that's the only way to prove their "color". Whitney Houston wasn't trying to be anything but herself and people (not naming any names and not picking on you as an example because I'm not gonna do that and take this thread to somewhere it don't need to be) had a problem with that. The reasoning for it had little to do with Whitney and more to do with people who had their own problems with race whether they were black...or TRYING to "be black" whatever the fuck that means.

So she was simply being herself? You, yourself have said she was doing drugs long before she met Bobby Brown but yet she was playing a goodie two shoes role. That doesn't seem like being yourself to me, that seems like putting on an act. She was fake and people don't like fake.

If she did happen to be booed by her own race for not fitting into the typical role of a black person, well, that's just life. I guarantee you, if I went into a redneck bar, I'd encounter a lot worse from my own race than some booing so she got off lucky. If a person is truly being themselves regardless of whether it fits the norm, they know there are going to be others that don't like what they're doing and when then encounter them, they don't give a damn what they think and if someone says something to them about it, they tell them to kiss their ass. They don't let it bother them and then try to change afterwards. Little Miss Mary Poppins was a fake fence straddler and it backfired on her.

In other words it was an image that took a toll on her.It's kinda sad when you here the story from her point of view and her mother's .BUT you can only help yourself (also one person trying to please millions , is very hard work and it's like your getting seperated into puzzles)

vainandy said:

Timmy84 said:

I don't get the joy in seeing someone else getting booed for singing a damn song. I'm sorry I just don't. This just proves that people are so far up about how someone should carry themselves racially thinking that's the only way to prove their "color". Whitney Houston wasn't trying to be anything but herself and people (not naming any names and not picking on you as an example because I'm not gonna do that and take this thread to somewhere it don't need to be) had a problem with that. The reasoning for it had little to do with Whitney and more to do with people who had their own problems with race whether they were black...or TRYING to "be black" whatever the fuck that means.

So she was simply being herself? You, yourself have said she was doing drugs long before she met Bobby Brown but yet she was playing a goodie two shoes role. That doesn't seem like being yourself to me, that seems like putting on an act. She was fake and people don't like fake.

If she did happen to be booed by her own race for not fitting into the typical role of a black person, well, that's just life. I guarantee you, if I went into a redneck bar, I'd encounter a lot worse from my own race than some booing so she got off lucky. If a person is truly being themselves regardless of whether it fits the norm, they know there are going to be others that don't like what they're doing and when they encounter them, they don't give a damn what they think and if someone says something to them about it, they tell them to kiss their ass. They don't let it bother them and then try to change afterwards. If she was such an "individual", she would have faced the criticsm and fought it rather than back down with her tail between her legs. Little Miss Mary Poppins was a fake fence straddler and it backfired on her.

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[Edited 1/30/13 9:08am]

Just because she did drugs don't mean she was fake.