domainator2010 said:

paintedlady said:

I never teased men, I dance straight forward, but I will get "close" ... bend back, sway, lean against a guy while dancing, but not enough to rub up on his dick. We do NOT want a pants tent!

Yes, that's all I wanted to know.

Just to clear the air between us, to show there's no ill feeling..... give me a huggle

Cerebus said:

The beauty of the rave scene, particularly in the early days, was the anything goes attitude. You didn't have to be beautiful or rich or part of any particular club, either. Just show up, dance and have a good time and you'd be accepted.

Exactly the same over here. Very hippie vibe. No one looks tidy after jigging about all night either. Especially those of us that were off our tits. It was part of it for me. I said before, attitudes were changing. It was all peace love and harmony at first... And pass me the rizlas, got any pills etc. Some of those dark spots were where it was all going on. A lot of your post sounds familiar to me.

I was clubbing or 'raving' through the '90s. Manchester and London went nuts with House in the late '80s. They closed the Hacienda the time we went up there but I had a bit of London. It all got screwed by much the same things as it did over there by the sound of it. It was red hot for a while though.

One place had hardly any lights. Running joke was they had two. One at the bar, one in the bog and it wasn't much of a joke. You'd get the odd flicker of flame as another joint got sorted but that was about it apart from lights on the decks. Now and then we'd get three seconds of strobe then back to the lighters. We'd all be sweaty and bouncing (Including the walls) in the dark all night. Used to get a moody, collective buzz going right through the place. 3 in the morning was bangin.

I listened to bits of the mixes you posted. Wasn't long before I recognised a couple of tunes and started racking my brains, trying to remember other old tracks names and find em. Youtube is pretty lacking but I found a few. There's a lot of it on there supposedly 'classic' but that's a matter of taste.

I feel old and half the stuff I used to go mad to sounds slow and dated now. Bit like me I spose. I couldn't help digging out some tapes though, found some of our old mixes and put em on. More crap that needs converting.

I'll get my fonky slippers on, found some memory laners :

Painted, I never met a girl clubbing that was tooled up. Sounds like you shoulda gone and partied in Frisco.

Edit: Be rude not to post this really:

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FrenchGuy said:

Hi,

I hadn't been in a club for a while... Last night l went out with a friend that came back in the town.

One thing l noticed : I'm 26, (in the middle range age-wise) and out of the say, 100-150 people in that small club, only about 1/3 of us were dancing! The rest was either standing against the wall drinking, ou just sitting THE WHOLE NIGHT...

I don't know if it's a cultural thing, but my friend, who was coming from London, was pretty shocked : he told me in London, EVERYBODY would be dancing...

The music was actually dull (l undesrtand what people like Vainandy mean, more and more) : You have the choice between electro-eurodance-techno-shit or that slow southern-influence hip-hop à la Lil Wayne, Drake, Rick Ross... How are you supposed to dance and sweat to that shit???

It really ain't what it used to be

1) Are you a club-goer?

2) How often? When do you think you'll stop? or when didi you stop?

3) Do you dance? a little? a lot? or not?

4) What kind of music moves you?

5) How do/did people club in your area?

6) What's your purpose of going out and clubbing?

7) Ever picked someone or being picked in a club? One night Stand or more?

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1) Are you a club-goer?

no, not really. not anymore. too crowded and scary

2) How often? When do you think you'll stop? or when didi you stop?

i stopped going a few years back i guess

3) Do you dance? a little? a lot? or not?

i am a dancing fool. i love to dance.

4) What kind of music moves you?

r&b and soul and funk and jazz and country western and pop and new age

5) How do/did people club in your area?

i really don't know anymore

6) What's your purpose of going out and clubbing?

dancing.

7) Ever picked someone or being picked in a club? One night Stand or more?

no, not really into that

Fonkyman said:

Cerebus said:

The beauty of the rave scene, particularly in the early days, was the anything goes attitude. You didn't have to be beautiful or rich or part of any particular club, either. Just show up, dance and have a good time and you'd be accepted.

Exactly the same over here. Very hippie vibe. No one looks tidy after jigging about all night either. Especially those of us that were off our tits. It was part of it for me. I said before, attitudes were changing. It was all peace love and harmony at first... And pass me the rizlas, got any pills etc. Some of those dark spots were where it was all going on. A lot of your post sounds familiar to me.

I was clubbing or 'raving' through the '90s. Manchester and London went nuts with House in the late '80s. They closed the Hacienda the time we went up there but I had a bit of London. It all got screwed by much the same things as it did over there by the sound of it. It was red hot for a while though.

One place had hardly any lights. Running joke was they had two. One at the bar, one in the bog and it wasn't much of a joke. You'd get the odd flicker of flame as another joint got sorted but that was about it apart from lights on the decks. Now and then we'd get three seconds of strobe then back to the lighters. We'd all be sweaty and bouncing (Including the walls) in the dark all night. Used to get a moody, collective buzz going right through the place. 3 in the morning was bangin.

Well, the SF rave scene that started in 91 and then grew to ridiculous heights, spreading far and wide throughout the 90s, was directly connected to the late 80s scene in your neck of the woods. Like, the Wicked crew came from there, and the vibe they brought with them is what changed our scene from going to a club to going to a rave (even though they eventuatlly, rather quickly, moved into all the existed clubs, too).

The description in your last paragraph brings back a lot of memories, I tell ya. Wicked through two kinds of parties (well, three if you count the Full Moons), Little Wickeds and Big Wickeds. Big Wickeds were the more produced and publicized parties, Little Wickeds were generally for the more deep heads, held in small locations with almost no production. They just had the DJ setup and soundsystem, a HUGE camourflage cargo net that would be hung all over the dancefloor (literally, over it, you could often reach up and touch it) a smoke machine and a strobe light that would occasionally flash from BEHIND the net.

Dubtribe wrote a song about the days when 'we used to dance', giving a day by day break down of the 'spots'. This song was from 1997, already lamenting (and celebrating) the days gone by. Little Wickeds get name checked at 2:28. "Those were the very best raves ever. The smoke machine was so thick you couldn't see anyone and there was this big strobe light right in front of your head. It was crazy I swear you could get high just from the lights."

I'm going to start converting and uploading some stuff to YouTube. After I get rolling I'm going to start a rave/house/old school/underground thread. See you there.

FrenchGuy said:

1) Are you a club-goer?

yes...

2) How often? When do you think you'll stop? or when did you stop?

...not as much now. I still go out for special occasions to dance. But I would go out more if I had friends who wanted to. I think if you ever stop dancing you slowly begin to die. I've been to high-class clubs and dives. In the late 70s and 80s--The Black Diamond in Greenville, SC. The Blue Iguana in Greenville. In the middle 80s Xanadu in Myrtle Beach used to be my spot! My girlfriends and I actually did an Apollonia 6 lip synch contest there. Closed for a long time now.

Early 90s? 2001 was the club in Myrtle Beach. Nice upscale club and still open. However, one night I left my ID at home (35 miles away) and my friend and I ended up on The Hill...about the lowest 'dive' club you could go to on the beach. Here we are...dressed to the nines... Hey we made the best of it. I knew a bunch of people there so we danced all night and then watched the sun come up on the ocean.

I used to go to The Cotton Club in Chicago on S. Michigan in the late 90s-2000s. It was great. In the back they played a mix of hip-hop, funk, and old skool and in the front was usually a live jazz group. I think it's closed now.

I also went to EQ on Michigan a few times. Thank the gods or whoever I wasn't there when all those people died. The best club I've ever been to was Shelter in Chicago. HUGE! My brother worked there and we got in free and had access to the VIP lounge. I met that asshole Scottie Pippen. He is the rudest person I ever met. Treated the cocktail waitresses like crap. My niece and I went to a drag show there and they taped it for Jerry Springer. This was before Jerry got into so much of the inbred stuff. And then I was dancing my butt off in the VIP lounge and some of the players from the Bears got into a huge brawl and almost crushed my niece and me. They closed that also. Been to Mr. V's in Atlanta for my birthday with my fiance. Classy and good music.

When I moved to Madison, WI in 2003 I started going out to this gay club called Club5. College town-everything closes at 2am. My manager was gay and he invited my girlfriend and me. I loved it and danced with everyone. I actually had a better time because the men weren't groping all over me.

I went back to Chicago this past July for graduation and went out with my son and my brother to NEO and Berlin in Chicago. Totally different kinds of music but I love them both. I made my brother dance with me at NEO to Muse-Supermassive Black Hole and then danced to Prince and Madonna at Berlin. Berlin is mostly a gay club/bar. Hadn't been to NEO since the Vampire days. It's changed some. Also went to EXIT with my brother. Hadn't been back there since 1997. Still the same.

I went out to WestGate in Phoenix 2 years ago for my birthday and danced at 3 or 4 different clubs like crazy. Margaritaville, McFadden's...The music was great. Poison by BBD, Journey...a good mix. Only been out once here in the Tacoma/Seattle area. I can't even remember the name of the place. My son's fiance and I went out together to a Black club. We were supposed to meet an older guy she works with on base but he didn't show up. We still had a good time.

3) Do you dance? a little? a lot? or not?

A lot! I love to dance. I've danced all my life. From the time I was about 6 until now. Even at home. Wherever. As an adult I would go out and dance for hours and hours. I would dance alone if no one asked me. I would dance with my girlfriends. I would dance until my partner said, "Hey, let's sit down." And I'd say, "Go ahead..I'll be there in a minute!"

4) What kind of music moves you?

Disco, old skool R&B, some electro, salsa, a few hip-hop songs..mostly older from the 90s. Don't like country. I love dancing at live shows too. I just went to see Heart here near Tacoma alone because no one would go with me and I was dancing in the aisles.

5) How do/did people club in your area?

Seattle has some nice clubs. My son goes out with Army buddies and girlfriends/wives. The one club I went to here had a mix of older/younger people. But I don't care. I never feel out of place. I don't think of age. It's not like I'm out there trying to pick up guys. I don't make a fool of myself. I don't wear clothes 3 sizes too small and I don't pass out drunk. I just love to dance. And all of my son's friends love me.

6) What's your purpose of going out and clubbing?

To dance, dance, dance some more. I will dance with my sons, my brother, strangers, women, alone...don't care. Love to dance. Will never stop dancing. Who makes that age cutoff? Not Tina Turner--that's for sure.

7) Ever picked someone or being picked in a club? One night Stand or more?

Yes. 1 turned into a 10 year relationship (longer than my marriage and I met my ex-husband at a JW convention ) and the other lasted about 3 years. Long long time ago in a land far far away.

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vainandy said:

1) Are you a club-goer?

I used to be. Not anymore though.

How often? When do you think you'll stop? or when didi you stop?

In the early 1990s, I went every single night the gay clubs were open which were Wednesdays, Fridays, Saturdays, and Sundays. During that time I worked nights in a convenience store and got off work at 10 p.m., partied all night, and didn't have to go back to work until 2 p.m. the next afternoon.

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And my white ass never danced "white" either, I've always danced "black" and had the rhythm to do it. (same here!!!)

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Andy's bio

I worked 2nd shift before and that was the best. I got off, went home, changed clothes, went to the club and then didn't have to be back to work until 3pm the next day. Can't get more perfect than that.

Oh and I LOVE reading your stories!!! Waiting for your book.

1) Are you a club-goer?

Not these days. I go maybe a handful of times a year. Usually to Prince VS. Mike nights.

2) How often? When do you think you'll stop? or when didi you stop?

Back when, a group of us would go 4-5 times a week. I was over it by sophomore year

of college, I didn't begin to refuse to go until the beginning of Senior year.

3) Do you dance? a little? a lot? or not?

I will dance all night. The more I have had to drink, the more I will dance. I have always loved dancing, formal or at the club, I love it!!

4) What kind of music moves you?

Just depends on the day. I love all kinds of music.

5) How do/did people club in your area?

It is SF, so the clubs are always packed and the gay clubs are always popin. You can

kind of get whatever you need in the bay area.

6) What's your purpose of going out and clubbing?

I am there to dance. To have a good time with my friends. Back in the day, I had my nights when I was looking for someone to make out with.

7) Ever picked someone or being picked in a club? One night Stand or more?

Nope. One night stands was never my thing. I came with the group, I leave with the

group, no one gets added to our group.

I would also go to the club with a knife. Some guys just don't understand what NO

means. It has come in handy more than once. I have seen both men and women get

(sexually) attacked, and it has always been by other men.

In college, I dressed up. I had big tits and a small waist, most dresses were made to

show off my chest. I never cared if a guy made a pass at me, asked for sex, but the

answer was always NO THANK YOU! I don't care what I am wearing, no means no.

Just because I am dressed up, doesn't mean I want to have sex with you.

If you feel that you have the right to touch me, etc however you want just because

of the way that I am dressed, am dancing etc than do not be surprised if I feel

that I have the right to stab you after your first warning. A number of guys have

had to be educated, by me, or by my lovely men in drag. Never forget a queen

whoopin some ass in a gold glitter dress. Glitter and blood everywhere.

paintedlady said:

We do NOT want a pants tent!

Cerebus said:

Well, the SF rave scene that started in 91 and then grew to ridiculous heights, spreading far and wide throughout the 90s, was directly connected to the late 80s scene in your neck of the woods.

I know. All kinds of stuff went to and fro all over the place. Chicago, Detroit, London, Frisco, etc. etc. All over. Good eh.

Cerebus said:

They just had the DJ setup and soundsystem, a HUGE camourflage cargo net that would be hung all over the dancefloor (literally, over it, you could often reach up and touch it) a smoke machine and a strobe light that would occasionally flash from BEHIND the net.

The camouflage nets. A few clubs did the same thing here over the years. I remember one night, somewhere in the '90s, some of it came down by a doorway. I must've done ten laps of the place before I could find my way out. Nothing to do with the drugs, honest. I should've known really. The name of the place was "Lost". I just looked it up and they're still at it.

See you in the underground.

I'm cracking up at some of the women going out tooled up with blades. Sounds like a really friendly vibe too. All that "I came with the group, nobody joins the group" and "Watch it, I'll stab ya" is the complete opposite to what we were up to. We weren't strutting about looking moody at people for looking at us or talking to us and there was plenty of touching and hugging. I don't mean a sleazy grope either. I met tons of people clubbing. Had great nights with complete strangers, most I never saw again. Thankfully, like I said, I never met a girl that was tooled up in a club and I went to some pretty rough areas. Completely different attitude.

I'd love to have gone to some of these clubs though. I could've danced all night being careful not to look at anyone. Especially those with knockers. (Never in my lifetime). Maybe I'd have danced around being ever so careful not to touch. Then I coulda smiled and said hello.

"Step back Fonky! *Sets off rape alarm* Step back Fonky, I'll stab ya".

Mmm, maybe not.

1) Are you a club-goer?

No.

2) How often? When do you think you'll stop? or when didi you stop?

Stopped years ago.

3) Do you dance? a little? a lot? or not?

I'd go out dancing when I was dating a girl who was into it. Will bust out a move here or there, in private.

4) What kind of music moves you?

Gimme the bass, man.

5) How do/did people club in your area?

In all sorts of different ways.

6) What's your purpose of going out and clubbing?

People'll say that they love to dance, but you can do that at home. So, the purpose is to get laid or (if you're already coupled up) to socialize. ...While overpaying for beverages and/or food, in an environment that's too dark, too loud and usually containing lots of worrisome people.

7) Ever picked someone or being picked in a club? One night Stand or more?

Yes. Both.

ForgottenPassword said:

vainandy you crack me up - I like your writing style and its honesty.

Same here. I like the way he expresses himself

Well, l launched the thread and haven't replied, myself !

Here's my take...

1) Are you a club-goer?

Well, I was one a coupla years ago. In my students days, I would do that friday-saturday-sunday evenings out every week...

2) How often? When do you think you'll stop? or when didi you stop?

I've been going less and less, say, since 2009 approximatly. Not because l'm tired of it or too old, but since "trap rap" music took over, music is less and less danceacle. Slow shit for people to "swag" to...

3) Do you dance? a little? a lot? or not?

I dance a lot... You know, that muthafucka in the middle of the dancefloor doin' all the movesn sweating and not giving a fuck? yeah yeah that one... yeah baby, it's me...

4) What kind of music moves you?

All l know is l can't stand : 1) Reggaeton 2) those silly "hip-hop dances" stuff (chicken noodle, stanky leg...), and southern influenced slow auto-tuned hip-hop 3)Electro eurodance... The rest is ok with me... Even groovy arabic music, indian bhangra and rythmic african music included... As long as the BPM is high and that bass is dirty

5) How do/did people club in your area?

It's sucks. the French are kinda stuck up when it come to dancing. Actually they let go when they get drunk (MANY MANY drinks). Most just stand against the wall, nodding their head to the rythm, the ladies sit their ass on the couch for the whole evening. Few years ago you could actually find people dancing. But the "swag-&-show-off" and the ignorant motto "real gangstas don't dance" attitude has taken over. Now instead of showing off your dancing skills, it's all about swagging and showing off your "fashion sense", how "fresh" you look, blablablah...

6) What's your purpose of going out and clubbing?

I can only enjoy "upbeat" music in a club... My friends are kinda surprised, cause they see two sides of me : At home l play mostly slow jams, quiet storm music, folk, alternative, 1990s R&B... And almost no upbeat stuff (except maybe for cleaning ). I go to clubs for the "upbeat" stuff. So now it's getting slower and slower, l'd rather stay home listening to my Sades, Bon Ivers, Bob Dylans, Marvins...

7) Ever picked someone or being picked in a club? One night Stand or more?

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Never really been into picking in clubs, 'cause l know most girls actually find guys creepy in the night club. L never wanted to be THAT guy ... I've actually had a talk or two with girls l feel a "connection" with (exchanging smiles, looking at each other), we'd meet some days later for a drink or else ... But no straight up one-night-stand on the same night... Well, actually just once

This is one of the reasons I am thinking about Miami more and more.

I want to see older people on the dance floor.

People from New Orleans get on the dance floor no matter what their age but the tourists tend not to have that same feel.

Unfortunately this is getting to be a "looks" world.

People worry too much about being cute enough and young enough, not to mention thin enough, to hit the dance floor.