Are Porn Tube Sites Causing Erectile Dysfunction?

So what is a "tube site?" A porn veteran explains:

In mid-2006, the world of porn underwent a transformation. The major players (PornoTube/RedTube/YouPorn) all introduced YOUtube-style streaming videos . Before this momentous event, you had to download the video, then open it, and risk getting a virus. Sometimes you didn't have the right software, so you spent a lot of time making sure it was what you wanted to see before downloading it and 'enjoying' it, or you would go to a specific site whose content you liked, watch the one or two new videos and leave it at that.

More recently, porn delivery evolved in the direction of video gallery sites (increasingly referred to as 'tube sites') which aggregate pages of thumbnails of streaming tube videos from different porn sites. No guesswork, no pause while downloading. You look across a matrix of thumbnails of videos with maybe 100 or so screenshots, see a picture that floats your boat and click on it.

However, porn purveyors want hits, so your click may take you to that video, or it may take you to another site that you didn't intend to visit, often another gallery site, which is giving the first site a referral kick-back. Now you've got two pages of thumbnails open. At first, you find that annoying and close one, but after things deteriorate, something on the new page catches your eye and you click on that, making a mental note to go back to the first thumbnail. ....and so on until you find yourself with 20 tabs open.

In a moment we'll look at the science behind why this profusion of ready erotica is uniquely risky, and the chaos it's causing for some users. But first let's hear from another user about how tube sites are different:

1. There are two parts to a physical sexual experience: the build-up of arousal, and then the sex. In normal porn there is usually more emphasis on (a crap) story. It often conveys some intimacy and touch etc. (Even though you are not physically experiencing it, you are mentally connecting more with those thoughts.) But on a tube site a clip is often a mere 3-5 minutes long. You go straight from 0 to 100mph. Arousal isn't a slow, relaxed, teasing build-up of expectation. It is straight to full-on orgasmic f--king.
2. Because tube clips are so short, you do a LOT more clicking to novel clips for various reasons: one is way too short to build up arousal; you don't know what will be in the clip till you watch it; endless curiosity, etc.
3. The variety on tube sites is limitless.

It was around 2006 that men began showing up at our website complaining of Internet porn addiction and wondering if their unexpected symptoms were related to porn use. Now, a trickle has become a tsunami, and guys all over the Web are complaining of extreme sexual performance problems and other symptoms. While the advent of Internet porn, and then the arrival of highspeed and torrent downloads of porn, increased rates of porn-related problems, many guys didn't notice severe problems until the rise of tube sites:

First guy: I used to not look at video much; but now you can go on ___.com and put in a video search- wallah!- you see dozens and dozens of clips to click on. All kinds of variety. Watching video was a "step-up" in terms of a high, versus pictures. I started noticing some ED symptoms within a year or two.

Second guy: For me, the tube sites were the final nail in the coffin as far as developing erectile dysfunction. I'd looked at pictures for years (well over a decade), and video clips from time to time. But when the tube sites became my daily fare, it was only shortly afterward that I developed ED problems. I think the tube sites, with their endless clips immediately accessible, threw my brain into overload. And that's probably when the real numbing of my pleasure response began. I'd be curious to see the distribution between men who never visited the streaming video sites (if any exist!), and men who stuck solely to still pics. There could potentially be an interesting correlation there.

Third guy: I spent over a decade looking at still pictures (only) without developing any form of ED. I didn't visit the tube sites regularly until March, 2011 - when we got very high speed access. Within 6 months, I had my first experience of ED...literally for the first time in my life. I'm well aware that 'correlation does not equal causality'...so I think a healthy degree of skepticism is a good idea. I always assumed that age could also have been a factor for me.

Fourth guy [in reply to Third guy]: I'm 21 and got ED from switching to tube sites. Age is irrelevant I think.

Novelty-overload paradox

Endlessly novel tube sites, and their "hottest byte of the video" thumbnails, constitute supernormal stimulation—compared with the usual mating cues (and frequency) human brains evolved with. Because tube sites hammer people's prime arousal chimes, they can trick them into abandoning the rewards of real sex for synthetic sex cues. This happens to other animals too. For example, male julodimorpha beetles mistake reddish-brown bottles for mates and spend the balance of their short existence in futile attempts to mate with them.

We humans perceive greater novelty as a road to greater satisfaction. But it's worth noting that satisfaction doesn't actually work that way ...even when buying jeans. No matter how perfect something is, if there are more choices potentially available, our brain imagines we might do better, and urges us to keep seeking. Remember John Mayer's Playboy interview?

You're looking for the one ... out of 100 you swear is going to be the one you finish to, and you still don't finish. Twenty seconds ago you thought that [thumbnail] was the hottest thing you ever saw, but you throw it back and continue your shot hunt and continue to make yourself late for work.

According to the research of psychologist Barry Schwartz , limitless choice is not a recipe for happiness. If tube sites make us too choosy, we can never be pleasantly surprised, and can easily become obsessed with the fear that we might have done better. That takes the joy out of life.

more....

http://www.psychologytoda...ysfunction

First memory loss...now THIS?

Porn tube sites apparently are the work of the devil.

Well, whatever can agitate developing ED can agitate developing it.

Some of those reasons are psychological, some of them are physiological ("sum of parts").

I suppose most most men over 25 know that if you keep masturbating all the time you won't be as hard and won't come as easily when you have sex with someone. Nothing unsual about it. For most it's enough to just cut down the masturbation for a while.

It's another question altogether if someone gets so fixated with the imagery provided by porn that they aren't going to be sufficiently turned on with their partners. I think that might work in a similar way with women too (they don't have to worry about ED, but just won't enjoy the sex).

Perfect!

Can cause viruses on your computer.

^ I about said the same thing. Especially the free ones. They always get some fucking pop ups every time I even try to view a video that sometimes I wonder why I even bother.

Timmy84 said:

^ I about said the same thing. Especially the free ones. They always get some fucking pop ups every time I even try to view a video that sometimes I wonder why I even bother.

I don't watch porn, but my mom's computer got jacked up like that, because of a certain family member of mines

Beautifulstarr123 said:

Timmy84 said:

^ I about said the same thing. Especially the free ones. They always get some fucking pop ups every time I even try to view a video that sometimes I wonder why I even bother.

I don't watch porn, but my mom's computer got jacked up like that, because of a certain family member of mines

Yeah. Most of those sites have a lot of malware in it. It's like the people who create those sites don't care about keeping it safe. They can easily get hacked too.

Timmy84 said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:

I don't watch porn, but my mom's computer got jacked up like that, because of a certain family member of mines

Yeah. Most of those sites have a lot of malware in it. It's like the people who create those sites don't care about keeping it safe. They can easily get hacked too.

But don't you keep your end safe by installing antiviruses? I believe that was her mistake in the beginning.

btw, I have overlooked this piece posted already here

In mid-2006, the world of porn underwent a transformation. The major players (PornoTube/RedTube/YouPorn) all introduced YOUtube-style streaming videos . Before this momentous event, you had to download the video, then open it, and risk getting a virus.

My hard drive recently blew out.

I was watching videos of myself.

As a user of such sites, I can get it up, watch the act, release and clean up the mess a OK. How well I do with a real woman is up for debate as I am currently a lonely man .

UncleGrandpa said:

As a user of such sites, I can get it up, watch the act, release and clean up the mess a OK. How well I do with a real woman is up for debate as I am currently a lonely man .

what about hooker?

Timmy84 said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:

I don't watch porn, but my mom's computer got jacked up like that, because of a certain family member of mines

Yeah. Most of those sites have a lot of malware in it. It's like the people who create those sites don't care about keeping it safe. They can easily get hacked too.

Gee, porn purveyors don't have your best interests in mind?!? Really?!?!? Well if you can't trust porno dudes, who can you trust?!?

LMFAO.

Beautifulstarr123 said:

Timmy84 said:

But don't you keep your end safe by installing antiviruses? I believe that was her mistake in the beginning.

btw, I have overlooked this piece posted already here

In mid-2006, the world of porn underwent a transformation. The major players (PornoTube/RedTube/YouPorn) all introduced YOUtube-style streaming videos . Before this momentous event, you had to download the video, then open it, and risk getting a virus.

Yeah I got protection. I also got Malwarebytes just in case I run into a site that gives me a rogue virus.

RodeoSchro said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah. Most of those sites have a lot of malware in it. It's like the people who create those sites don't care about keeping it safe. They can easily get hacked too.

Gee, porn purveyors don't have your best interests in mind?!? Really?!?!? Well if you can't trust porno dudes, who can you trust?!?

LMFAO.

Well when one spends their day jacking off for hours, you can't trust them to fix anything. So yeah.

While browsing some bodybuilding and fitness websites for some research on testosterone I´ve come across at least half a dozen websites that claim that watching porn can lead to a bunch of problems, including ED and loss of libido. RodeoSchro posted a link to a website whose author also agrees with these claims, and then there is also THIS: http://yourbrainonporn.co...e-us-users

I have no problems in that department whatsoever and don´t necessarily agree with what´s said here and there but I think anything in excess can lead to addiction and problems, including food, sugar, caffeine, alcohol, drugs, habits, the internet etc.

But on the other hand there are some really successful porn performers like Lexington Steel and Erik Everhard who both freely admitted that they got into the porn biz because they masturbated heavily to porn, and still do sometimes, so if it has such a detrimental effect how come they are still successgfully performing after all those years in the biz?

By the way, I´m more intrigued by the background stories, interviews and health and fitness info and glimpse into different lifestyles when it comes to porn rather than watching the porn stuff itself.

You can learn a lot about the human body.

Yeah I've found myself coming to that in recent months. I think keeping porn viewing to a minimum rather than it being maximum could help anyone suffering from loss of libido. We need to start saving our "spit" now.

Timmy84 said:

Yeah I got protection. I also got Malwarebytes just in case I run into a site that gives me a rogue virus.

I know a strategy you can use where you won't have to worry about ANY of that stuff.

Interested?

KoolEaze said:

While browsing some bodybuilding and fitness websites for some research on testosterone I´ve come across at least half a dozen websites that claim that watching porn can lead to a bunch of problems, including ED and loss of libido. RodeoSchro posted a link to a website whose author also agrees with these claims, and then there is also THIS: http://yourbrainonporn.co...e-us-users

I have no problems in that department whatsoever and don´t necessarily agree with what´s said here and there but I think anything in excess can lead to addiction and problems, including food, sugar, caffeine, alcohol, drugs, habits, the internet etc.

But on the other hand there are some really successful porn performers like Lexington Steel and Erik Everhard who both freely admitted that they got into the porn biz because they masturbated heavily to porn, and still do sometimes, so if it has such a detrimental effect how come they are still successgfully performing after all those years in the biz?

By the way, I´m more intrigued by the background stories, interviews and health and fitness info and glimpse into different lifestyles when it comes to porn rather than watching the porn stuff itself.

You can learn a lot about the human body.

Actually, I don't give a lot of credence to the physical aspects of porn. Although, I can see how whacking off to it several times a day could lead to erectile issues.

My main objection is how porn degrades the most important act of love we have. If you're a porno dude, I am 100% positive that at some point your ability to interact with a real, live woman is going to suffer.

Will you be able to boink her? Yeah, probably.

Will you be able to love her and appreciate what she's giving you? I highly doubt it.

That is not a trade worth making.

.

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RodeoSchro said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah I got protection. I also got Malwarebytes just in case I run into a site that gives me a rogue virus.

I know a strategy you can use where you won't have to worry about ANY of that stuff.

Interested?

I'm sometimes skeptical of offers but I'm game. What you got?

Timmy84 said:

RodeoSchro said:

I know a strategy you can use where you won't have to worry about ANY of that stuff.

Interested?

I'm sometimes skeptical of offers but I'm game. What you got?

OK, here's what you do to NEVER have to worry about the malware or viruses on porn sites:

DON'T GO TO PORN SITES.

See how easy that is?

RodeoSchro said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm sometimes skeptical of offers but I'm game. What you got?

OK, here's what you do to NEVER have to worry about the malware or viruses on porn sites:

DON'T GO TO PORN SITES.

See how easy that is?

Well I don't go to them all the time anyway.

RodeoSchro said:

KoolEaze said:

While browsing some bodybuilding and fitness websites for some research on testosterone I´ve come across at least half a dozen websites that claim that watching porn can lead to a bunch of problems, including ED and loss of libido. RodeoSchro posted a link to a website whose author also agrees with these claims, and then there is also THIS: http://yourbrainonporn.co...e-us-users

I have no problems in that department whatsoever and don´t necessarily agree with what´s said here and there but I think anything in excess can lead to addiction and problems, including food, sugar, caffeine, alcohol, drugs, habits, the internet etc.

But on the other hand there are some really successful porn performers like Lexington Steel and Erik Everhard who both freely admitted that they got into the porn biz because they masturbated heavily to porn, and still do sometimes, so if it has such a detrimental effect how come they are still successgfully performing after all those years in the biz?

By the way, I´m more intrigued by the background stories, interviews and health and fitness info and glimpse into different lifestyles when it comes to porn rather than watching the porn stuff itself.

You can learn a lot about the human body.

Actually, I don't give a lot of credence to the physical aspects of porn. Although, I can see how whacking off to it several times a day could lead to erectile issues.

My main objection is how porn degrades the most important act of love we have. If you're a porno dude, I am 100% positive that at some point your ability to interact with a real, live woman is going to suffer.

Will you be able to boink her? Yeah, probably.

Will you be able to love her and appreciate what she's giving you? I highly doubt it.

That is not a trade worth making.

.

[Edited 1/17/13 11:49am]

So what exactly is a porn dude: a man who watches porn daily?

I am not a man and I don't watch porn that much, but watching porn sure does not in any way have any influence at all on my ability to interact with men in RL or to love somebody and have mindblowing sex with the person I love. I never in my life had sex with somebody who I did not love with all my heart. The sex I had with men was not only hot, but a way to share the love we felt for each other. Watching porn has nothing at all to do with that.

[Edited 1/17/13 14:13pm]

RodeoSchro said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm sometimes skeptical of offers but I'm game. What you got?

OK, here's what you do to NEVER have to worry about the malware or viruses on porn sites:

DON'T GO TO PORN SITES.

See how easy that is?

How come I knew your answer already beforeI read it .

Anyway I have the perfect advice to not worry about Erectile Dysfunction: just never have sex in your life again !

If you really think about it, porn ain't really all THAT exciting. Sure you get a hard-on and you may jack off but when you realize they have to go over the same fucking scene like they're filming a movie, it takes the fun out especially with the bad acting that comes with it. But if they cum too early, you gotta start all over again. That's why I like solo masturbation clips over two people fucking.

novabrkr said:

Well, whatever can agitate developing ED can agitate developing it.

Some of those reasons are psychological, some of them are physiological ("sum of parts").

I suppose most most men over 25 know that if you keep masturbating all the time you won't be as hard and won't come as easily when you have sex with someone. Nothing unsual about it. For most it's enough to just cut down the masturbation for a while.

It's another question altogether if someone gets so fixated with the imagery provided by porn that they aren't going to be sufficiently turned on with their partners. I think that might work in a similar way with women too (they don't have to worry about ED, but just won't enjoy the sex).

It's an interesting theory, and it may be true, but I tend to think it's more of the first thing--some men are just jerking off too much!

But along with the fact that they act like they're trying to get blood from a stone, I suppose they are also indulging their fantasies to the point where normal sex may not be quite as exciting or stimulating. So there are two things working against them.

As for still pictures vs movies, I would guess that movies are more stimulating, and again, make men jerk off more. The interest in porn may be psychological, but the ED is physical in both cause and solution. Stop jerking off constantly and regular ol' boring sex will be plenty exciting.

Timmy84 said:

If you really think about it, porn ain't really all THAT exciting. Sure you get a hard-on and you may jack off but when you realize they have to go over the same fucking scene like they're filming a movie, it takes the fun out especially with the bad acting that comes with it. But if they cum too early, you gotta start all over again. That's why I like solo masturbation clips over two people fucking.

Yeah porn ain't very exciting . That's another reason why it is hard for me to believe that anybody would be less turned on because of watching porn when it comes to "real sex" with an actual partner.

I watch porn maybe 15, 16 hours a day and I have no problem launching the Titanic when called upon.

This is true, I read a study about it before.

The worst thing is, it's the teenagers who've grown up with these tube site available that are doing themselves the most damage, because it's literally re-wiring their brain to only be aroused by quick, intense bursts of pleasure. Well, real sex ain't like that.

The guys who have ED from these sites that didn't grow up with that instant access, they can recover. These kids, there's a good chance they won't. It's fucking scary. We're going to see a generation of young men with serious ED issues. And therefore a generation of very unsatisfied women.