cborgman said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I didn't care for the mixing of the witches and vampires story line...

me either. it was when she started to lose me

and that's what i meant with the thread's title. if mixing your series starts to occur, it's time to maybe go back to the drawing board.

I agree--King should leave "The Shining" alone.

cborgman said:

PurpleJedi said:

I have never read a Stephen King or an Anne Rice novel.

Should I add those to my "2013 reading list"???

What would you guys recommend?

there are classics by each.

stephen: my faves would be the stand (uncut edition is much better), the shining, misery, salems lot, carrie and it (even though it is a little messy)

anne: interview with the vampire, the vampire lestat, queen of the damned, the vampire armand, the witching hour, and maybe cry to heaven

Thanks Chris!

PurpleJedi said:

cborgman said:

there are classics by each.

stephen: my faves would be the stand (uncut edition is much better), the shining, misery, salems lot, carrie and it (even though it is a little messy)

anne: interview with the vampire, the vampire lestat, queen of the damned, the vampire armand, the witching hour, and maybe cry to heaven

Thanks Chris!

my pleasure.

if you do the vampire series by anne, memnoch may be worth it too. some fans hate, some love it. i thought it was good, even though the premise is cheese.

cborgman said:

PurpleJedi said:

Thanks Chris!

my pleasure.

if you do the vampire series by anne, memnoch may be worth it too. some fans hate, some love it. i thought it was good, even though the premise is cheese.

OK.

Anne is doing werewolves now I think.

Damn those Twilight books!!!!!

I also liked "The Feast of All Saints" by Anne Rice.

One I never see mentioned but I enjoyed at the time was "Servant of the Bones" I have no idea where to classify that. I know she did one on a ghost "Violin" which I haven't read, maybe that one fits in that category since it was a spirit. I kinda liked how she tied her worlds together in small ways, maybe not completely meshing them together, but still hinting at them. I'm curious what she'll do with the werewolves.

*want*

I have read all of Anne Rice's books except the Wolf Gift which I own and just haven't gotten to them yet. I love them all for different reasons. My fave is Cry to Heaven, the only one I really had a problem with was Memnoch. I even like the Angel Time ones of late. I was upset about how the Talamasca turned out. Queen of the damned is on as I type and my disappointment in the movie has been renewed. UGH. Anne said the other day that the Tale of the Body Thief screenplay was done and in pre production.

I love a lot of King's work, with The Shining being my favorite. I am worried about this. Of course will be reading the minute its out...but if its shit and takes away from the original...I will so NOT be happy.

People are doing an awful lot of trippin' on a book that won't be released until September and sounds as if it's comletely different than The Shining. It's not even a "sequel" to the original story so much as it just uses one character from the book, thirty years later, to tell a different story.

'On highways across America, a tribe of people called The True Knot travel in search of sustenance. They look harmless—mostly old, lots of polyester, and married to their RVs. But as Dan Torrance knows, and spunky twelve-year-old Abra Stone learns, The True Knot are quasi-immortal, living off the “steam” that children with the “shining” produce when they are slowly tortured to death.

Haunted by the inhabitants of the Overlook Hotel where he spent one horrific childhood year, Dan has been drifting for decades, desperate to shed his father’s legacy of despair, alcoholism, and violence. Finally, he settles in a New Hampshire town, an AA community that sustains him, and a job at a nursing home where his remnant “shining” power provides the crucial final comfort to the dying. Aided by a prescient cat, he becomes “Doctor Sleep.”

Then Dan meets the evanescent Abra Stone, and it is her spectacular gift, the brightest shining ever seen, that reignites Dan’s own demons and summons him to a battle for Abra’s soul and survival. This is an epic war between good and evil, a gory, glorious story that will thrill the millions of devoted readers of The Shining and satisfy anyone new to the territory of this icon in the King canon.'

Cerebus said:

People are doing an awful lot of trippin' on a book that won't be released until September and sounds as if it's comletely different than The Shining. It's not even a "sequel" to the original story so much as it just uses one character from the book, thirty years later, to tell a different story.

'On highways across America, a tribe of people called The True Knot travel in search of sustenance. They look harmless—mostly old, lots of polyester, and married to their RVs. But as Dan Torrance knows, and spunky twelve-year-old Abra Stone learns, The True Knot are quasi-immortal, living off the “steam” that children with the “shining” produce when they are slowly tortured to death.

Haunted by the inhabitants of the Overlook Hotel where he spent one horrific childhood year, Dan has been drifting for decades, desperate to shed his father’s legacy of despair, alcoholism, and violence. Finally, he settles in a New Hampshire town, an AA community that sustains him, and a job at a nursing home where his remnant “shining” power provides the crucial final comfort to the dying. Aided by a prescient cat, he becomes “Doctor Sleep.”

Then Dan meets the evanescent Abra Stone, and it is her spectacular gift, the brightest shining ever seen, that reignites Dan’s own demons and summons him to a battle for Abra’s soul and survival. This is an epic war between good and evil, a gory, glorious story that will thrill the millions of devoted readers of The Shining and satisfy anyone new to the territory of this icon in the King canon.'

Like I said... If you've read King's works like "Insomnia", then this is not a new concept.
These characters sound like the "Low Men" from the Dark Tower books...

I look forward to it.

recommend these books for vampire fans

chocolate1 said:

Cerebus said:

People are doing an awful lot of trippin' on a book that won't be released until September and sounds as if it's comletely different than The Shining. It's not even a "sequel" to the original story so much as it just uses one character from the book, thirty years later, to tell a different story.

'On highways across America, a tribe of people called The True Knot travel in search of sustenance. They look harmless—mostly old, lots of polyester, and married to their RVs. But as Dan Torrance knows, and spunky twelve-year-old Abra Stone learns, The True Knot are quasi-immortal, living off the “steam” that children with the “shining” produce when they are slowly tortured to death.

Haunted by the inhabitants of the Overlook Hotel where he spent one horrific childhood year, Dan has been drifting for decades, desperate to shed his father’s legacy of despair, alcoholism, and violence. Finally, he settles in a New Hampshire town, an AA community that sustains him, and a job at a nursing home where his remnant “shining” power provides the crucial final comfort to the dying. Aided by a prescient cat, he becomes “Doctor Sleep.”

Then Dan meets the evanescent Abra Stone, and it is her spectacular gift, the brightest shining ever seen, that reignites Dan’s own demons and summons him to a battle for Abra’s soul and survival. This is an epic war between good and evil, a gory, glorious story that will thrill the millions of devoted readers of The Shining and satisfy anyone new to the territory of this icon in the King canon.'

Like I said... If you've read King's works like "Insomnia", then this is not a new concept.
These characters sound like the "Low Men" from the Dark Tower books...

I look forward to it.

The Low Men. Okay, okay, maybe.

XxAxX said:

recommend these books for vampire fans

Is it gross? What makes them special?

I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and read the first chapter. Who knows? I have all his books as well as Clive Barker's. Some are hits and some are misses. In the meantime, I want this also along with the door decor.

Literary Board Games for Book Nerds

In this creepy game, one player controls the Overlook Hotel, and the other the Torrence family, each trying to destroy — or at least best — the other. Unlike most of the games on this list, this one was created with the support of the original author, and in fact Stephen King was one of its first play-testers.

morningsong said:

XxAxX said:

recommend these books for vampire fans

Is it gross? What makes them special?

they are well written, historically interesting, and contain well-developed characters. moreover, ms. yarbro was writing about vampires long before anyopne else was.

the twilight books can't hold a candle to them, nor (imo) can anne rice's series. but that's just me

XxAxX said:

morningsong said:

Is it gross? What makes them special?

they are well written, historically interesting, and contain well-developed characters. moreover, ms. yarbro was writing about vampires long before anyopne else was.

the twilight books can't hold a candle to them, nor (imo) can anne rice's series. but that's just me

???? how are you supporting your statement that Yarbro was writing about vampires "long before anyone else."

There were plenty of classic and modern vampire stories before Yarbro published her first one in 1978.

Anne Rice had a short story on vamps 10 years before that in 1968 before turning it into her amazing and popular first vampire novel "Interview With the Vampire" two years BEFORE Yarbro in 1976.

And let's not forget the originator Polidori (1819) and Scorpio Bram Stoker's Dracula (1817) and Marilyn Ross' romantic vampire series (to which Rice pays some homage -- 1966).

That statement is just not factual.

[Edited 1/17/13 12:19pm]

XxAxX said:

morningsong said:

Is it gross? What makes them special?

they are well written, historically interesting, and contain well-developed characters. moreover, ms. yarbro was writing about vampires long before anyopne else was.

the twilight books can't hold a candle to them, nor (imo) can anne rice's series. but that's just me

I can't say I'm into the vampire genre, I just kind of fell into the Anne Rice stuff, and read Bram Stoker's, so I really can't compare, but I love a good story. The whole Twilight thing I've never read but from what I've gleaned it's not my thing. Maybe I'll check these out, I've read all my books in stock right now.

morningsong said:

XxAxX said:

they are well written, historically interesting, and contain well-developed characters. moreover, ms. yarbro was writing about vampires long before anyopne else was.

the twilight books can't hold a candle to them, nor (imo) can anne rice's series. but that's just me

I can't say I'm into the vampire genre, I just kind of fell into the Anne Rice stuff, and read Bram Stoker's, so I really can't compare, but I love a good story. The whole Twilight thing I've never read but from what I've gleaned it's not my thing. Maybe I'll check these out, I've read all my books in stock right now.

hey, i'm not a critic!!! don't listen to me. this is a message board on a website dedicated to prince. please do not mistake my comments for anything but a personal opinion.

about twilight, i reacted badly to it because felt the relationship model of edward and bella's love that was being brought before young teenage girls was not a healthy one. i thought edward was kind of stalkerish, possessive, and bella's co-dependence upon him not a good model. he was watching her sleep, unannounced, and she was doing stuff like getting into an emotional state and wandering into scary places alone, ignoring her science class in favor of noticing how hot he was.

five years on, we see that the cambridge department now has a course on modern literary feminism which discusses at length the twilight series, so maybe i was not all wrong about that. and, robert pattinson has been quoted saying even he didn't like being edward cullen, (there's a youtube clip) because he felt edward was a rather scary sort of dude.

but, DO NOT LISTEN TO ME. again, this is a website dedicated to a pop star and we don't find that many literary experts posting here. the pay just isn't that good, i guess

so by all means you should read the twilight series, as far as at least one book, just to see what it's all about. it's got that dark shadows vibe but in broad daylight.

SynthiaRose said:

XxAxX said:

they are well written, historically interesting, and contain well-developed characters. moreover, ms. yarbro was writing about vampires long before anyopne else was.

the twilight books can't hold a candle to them, nor (imo) can anne rice's series. but that's just me

???? how are you supporting your statement that Yarbro was writing about vampires "long before anyone else."

There were plenty of classic and modern vampire stories before Yarbro published her first one in 1978.

Anne Rice had a short story on vamps 10 years before that in 1968 before turning it into her amazing and popular first vampire novel "Interview With the Vampire" two years BEFORE Yarbro in 1976.

And let's not forget the originator Polidori (1819) and Scorpio Bram Stoker's Dracula (1817) and Marilyn Ross' romantic vampire series (to which Rice pays some homage -- 1966).

That statement is just not factual.

[Edited 1/17/13 12:19pm]

you're right. i stand corrected about anne rice, i'm sorry. i was hasty and did not research. see? not a literary expert!!!!

oh, and when i said yarbro was writing vamp stories 'before anyone else', i was considering the last twenty years or so, since interview with the vampire became a movie, to have been a kind of vampire revival in the fiction world. although, thinking back, dark shadows could have been part of that too so maybe vampire stories never really did go out of style.

aaannd, edit.

[Edited 1/17/13 13:22pm]

XxAxX said:

morningsong said:

I can't say I'm into the vampire genre, I just kind of fell into the Anne Rice stuff, and read Bram Stoker's, so I really can't compare, but I love a good story. The whole Twilight thing I've never read but from what I've gleaned it's not my thing. Maybe I'll check these out, I've read all my books in stock right now.

hey, i'm not a critic!!! don't listen to me. this is a message board on a website dedicated to prince. please do not mistake my comments for anything but a personal opinion.

about twilight, i reacted badly to it because felt the relationship model of edward and bella's love that was being brought before young teenage girls was not a healthy one. i thought edward was kind of stalkerish, possessive, and bella's co-dependence upon him not a good model. he was watching her sleep, unannounced, and she was doing stuff like getting into an emotional state and wandering into scary places alone, ignoring her science class in favor of noticing how hot he was.

five years on, we see that the cambridge department now has a course on modern literary feminism which discusses at length the twilight series, so maybe i was not all wrong about that. and, robert pattinson has been quoted saying even he didn't like being edward cullen, (there's a youtube clip) because he felt edward was a rather scary sort of dude.

but, DO NOT LISTEN TO ME. again, this is a website dedicated to a pop star and we don't find that many literary experts posting here. the pay just isn't that good, i guess

so by all means you should read the twilight series, as far as at least one book, just to see what it's all about. it's got that dark shadows vibe but in broad daylight.

You're opinion is as good as anyone elses, I'm not knocking. I'm not knocking those who like Twilight. My lack of interest is far more shallower, vampires that attend a structured documented environment like high school didn't and doesn't make sense to me unless you are just panning to the romanticism of high school kids, which I'm not one so there's nothing in them that I'd relate to. I liked Anne in the beginning because they did have that psychological thing going on, there were a whole lot of other things going on, some of it to my taste, some of it didn't appeal to me but it all was thought provoking, then they devolved into surface stuff or rather they became very one-sided and I lost interest. Most vampire movies, I don't even look at, but those I do seem to be the old skool ones the most.