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Reply #30 posted 01/15/13 4:18am

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kewlschool said:

Vitamin supplements were originally designed for the world's poor people.

It normally means expensive pee. However, do remember most claims made by manufactures of supplements are not fact nor proven to be true. In fact, too much Vitamin D can kill off organs in the body. Yes, you can overdose on certain vitamins.

I take 1 multi-vitamin.

Side bar:

Although, I would think that acetaminophen (tylenol) is probably the most common overdosed drug.

I think 2,000mg daily is the max for most healthy adults.

The amount of vitamin D needed to overdose exceeds is way over 15000IU's. You would have to take an excessive amount for that to happen, or be out in the sun for days. Most people are deficient in vitamin D3, which is fat soluble. I was severely lacking in it, so my doctor suggested that I take 1 5000 softgel, daily, (especially during the winter months.) On a recent trip to my doctor, she told me that they were coming back a normal level and to continue taking it. Being that it is a fat soluble vitamin, I have to take it with fat for it to work effectively and to be absorbed fully. I feel allot better than I did, this time last year. Have not had any joint pain or, mood swings, or anything of the sort. These are all of the things, that vitamin D3 is good for, and it seems to be helping.

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Reply #31 posted 01/15/13 5:37am

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novabrkr said:

For those vegetarians with B12 deficiency, I guess so. I would be less worried about the others.






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Reply #32 posted 01/15/13 5:39am

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Reply #33 posted 01/15/13 7:25am

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Stymie said:

I think it's best that you get your vitamins from the food you eat and vitamins are second best. However, I have a Vitamin D deficiency and I can't my Vit D from sunlight so those pills are a big help.

I've had a pretty serious vitamin D deficiency, too. In the winter, I take 5000 IU/day, dropping to 2000 IU/day in the summer (when the sun is higher and I have more opportunities to be outdoors).

I also take 400 mg of magnesium citrate every night because it helps me "go" in the morning before I shower. And a multi made for women my age because it has a lot of B vitamins, which I also tend to get a little low in from time to time.

In the winter, I also take n-acetyl-cysteine (NAC) every day. It's a pretty strong immune booster - works great to ward off colds.

And I'll dose myself with cod liver oil from time to time, too.

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Reply #34 posted 01/15/13 7:33am

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Stymie said:

NDRU said:

Yeah, if we ate a tablefull of raw organic veggies every day like apes do then maybe we wouldn't need supplements. But I like Pringles & chicken nuggets too much!

And Vitamin D is one of those things that depends on where we live (sun exposure), I think. Some folks will need supplements

Three of my meds make me sensitive to sunlight so that's out.

It is also extremely difficult for black folks (especially) living in higher latitudes to synthesize enough vitamin D from sunlight. You would need to be out for a couple hours between 10 and 2 every day in the summer (without sunscreen) to get the job done.

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Reply #35 posted 01/15/13 7:40am

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Genesia said:

Stymie said:

I think it's best that you get your vitamins from the food you eat and vitamins are second best. However, I have a Vitamin D deficiency and I can't my Vit D from sunlight so those pills are a big help.

I've had a pretty serious vitamin D deficiency, too. In the winter, I take 5000 IU/day, dropping to 2000 IU/day in the summer (when the sun is higher and I have more opportunities to be outdoors).

I also take 400 mg of magnesium citrate every night because it helps me "go" in the morning before I shower. And a multi made for women my age because it has a lot of B vitamins, which I also tend to get a little low in from time to time.

In the winter, I also take n-acetyl-cysteine (NAC) every day. It's a pretty strong immune booster - works great to ward off colds.

And I'll dose myself with cod liver oil from time to time, too.

Do you find that the cod liver oil is benefitial? How?

I bought my son McCoy's cod liver oil pills (which I used to take as a kid) but I'm lax about enforcing it.

Also...just wanted to add that a few weeks ago I started to come down with a cold (sore throat, feverish/watery eyes, sleepy, sneezing, etc.)...I bought some AIRBORNE chewables and took 2 or 3 servings a day + vitamin C drops and plenty of tea w/ honey & lemon. And I slept.

The "sick feeling" lasted me TWO DAYS...after that I was fighting the cold but feeling right as rain.

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Reply #36 posted 01/15/13 8:00am

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PurpleJedi said:

Genesia said:

I've had a pretty serious vitamin D deficiency, too. In the winter, I take 5000 IU/day, dropping to 2000 IU/day in the summer (when the sun is higher and I have more opportunities to be outdoors).

I also take 400 mg of magnesium citrate every night because it helps me "go" in the morning before I shower. And a multi made for women my age because it has a lot of B vitamins, which I also tend to get a little low in from time to time.

In the winter, I also take n-acetyl-cysteine (NAC) every day. It's a pretty strong immune booster - works great to ward off colds.

And I'll dose myself with cod liver oil from time to time, too.

Do you find that the cod liver oil is benefitial? How?

I bought my son McCoy's cod liver oil pills (which I used to take as a kid) but I'm lax about enforcing it.

Also...just wanted to add that a few weeks ago I started to come down with a cold (sore throat, feverish/watery eyes, sleepy, sneezing, etc.)...I bought some AIRBORNE chewables and took 2 or 3 servings a day + vitamin C drops and plenty of tea w/ honey & lemon. And I slept.

The "sick feeling" lasted me TWO DAYS...after that I was fighting the cold but feeling right as rain.

nod

Cod liver oil is a natural way to get omega 3 fats, plus vitamins D and A. I don't take gel caps for fish oil (too much processing for my taste). I just slug down a couple teaspoons of this stuff:

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Reply #37 posted 01/15/13 10:49am

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Reply #38 posted 01/16/13 4:24am

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PurpleJedi said:

Also...just wanted to add that a few weeks ago I started to come down with a cold (sore throat, feverish/watery eyes, sleepy, sneezing, etc.)...I bought some AIRBORNE chewables and took 2 or 3 servings a day + vitamin C drops and plenty of tea w/ honey & lemon. And I slept.

The "sick feeling" lasted me TWO DAYS...after that I was fighting the cold but feeling right as rain.

nod

Airborne was a pretty iffy reputation, partly due to the fact it was invented by a second grade teacher (and I have nothing against second grade teachers, but they are not my go-to for medical supplements) and the firm that did the study used to trumpet Airborne’s effectiveness turned out to be created just to run the test for the product (staffed by two unqualified people, apparently). To each their own, but personally i wouldn't hitch my cart to that horse.

The FTC has accused the company of false advertising.

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/20...borne.shtm

“There is no credible evidence that Airborne products, taken as directed, will reduce the severity or duration of colds, or provide any tangible benefit for people who are exposed to germs in crowded places,” said Lydia Parnes, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection.

Here is an article on the 2008 $23.5 million dollar class action settlement paid by the company:

http://www.npr.org/templa...d=87937907

You can read a Scientific American article on the product here: http://www.scientificamer...ne-baloney

And here is a few quotes regarding the company and study set up to test Airborne.

http://whohastimeforthis....acher.html

Airborne said that a double-blind, placebo-controlled study was conducted with "care and professionalism" by a company specializing in clinical trial management, GNG Pharmaceutical Services.
GNG is actually a two-man operation started up just to do the Airborne study. There was no clinic, no scientists and no doctors. The man who ran things said he had lots of clinical trial experience. He added that he had a degree from Indiana University, but the school says he never graduated.
"I would not define that then as a clinical trial," Kroll [a pharmacologist at Duke University Medical School] said.
Airborne insists the results are valid, but the company is removing all references to the study from its Web site and packaging.

[Edited 1/16/13 5:24am]

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Reply #39 posted 01/16/13 5:46am

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damosuzuki said:

PurpleJedi said:

Also...just wanted to add that a few weeks ago I started to come down with a cold (sore throat, feverish/watery eyes, sleepy, sneezing, etc.)...I bought some AIRBORNE chewables and took 2 or 3 servings a day + vitamin C drops and plenty of tea w/ honey & lemon. And I slept.

The "sick feeling" lasted me TWO DAYS...after that I was fighting the cold but feeling right as rain.

nod

Airborne was a pretty iffy reputation, partly due to the fact it was invented by a second grade teacher (and I have nothing against second grade teachers, but they are not my go-to for medical supplements) and the firm that did the study used to trumpet Airborne’s effectiveness turned out to be created just to run the test for the product (staffed by two unqualified people, apparently). To each their own, but personally i wouldn't hitch my cart to that horse.

The FTC has accused the company of false advertising.

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/20...borne.shtm

Here is an article on the 2008 $23.5 million dollar class action settlement paid by the company:

http://www.npr.org/templa...d=87937907

You can read a Scientific American article on the product here: http://www.scientificamer...ne-baloney

And here is a few quotes regarding the company and study set up to test Airborne.

http://whohastimeforthis....acher.html

Airborne said that a double-blind, placebo-controlled study was conducted with "care and professionalism" by a company specializing in clinical trial management, GNG Pharmaceutical Services.
GNG is actually a two-man operation started up just to do the Airborne study. There was no clinic, no scientists and no doctors. The man who ran things said he had lots of clinical trial experience. He added that he had a degree from Indiana University, but the school says he never graduated.
"I would not define that then as a clinical trial," Kroll [a pharmacologist at Duke University Medical School] said.
Airborne insists the results are valid, but the company is removing all references to the study from its Web site and packaging.

[Edited 1/16/13 5:24am]

Yeah I know all about the FTC studies and the lawsuit.

BUT, still...the few times that I have used it, I have shortened/killed the effects of the cold.

So for me personally, it works.

nod

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Reply #40 posted 01/16/13 8:17pm

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shorttrini said:

kewlschool said:

Vitamin supplements were originally designed for the world's poor people.

It normally means expensive pee. However, do remember most claims made by manufactures of supplements are not fact nor proven to be true. In fact, too much Vitamin D can kill off organs in the body. Yes, you can overdose on certain vitamins.

I take 1 multi-vitamin.

Side bar:

Although, I would think that acetaminophen (tylenol) is probably the most common overdosed drug.

I think 2,000mg daily is the max for most healthy adults.

The amount of vitamin D needed to overdose exceeds is way over 15000IU's. You would have to take an excessive amount for that to happen, or be out in the sun for days. Most people are deficient in vitamin D3, which is fat soluble. I was severely lacking in it, so my doctor suggested that I take 1 5000 softgel, daily, (especially during the winter months.) On a recent trip to my doctor, she told me that they were coming back a normal level and to continue taking it. Being that it is a fat soluble vitamin, I have to take it with fat for it to work effectively and to be absorbed fully. I feel allot better than I did, this time last year. Have not had any joint pain or, mood swings, or anything of the sort. These are all of the things, that vitamin D3 is good for, and it seems to be helping.

There are some people who get the vit D from multiple sources and thus the OD situation.

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Reply #41 posted 01/16/13 9:33pm

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kewlschool said:

shorttrini said:

The amount of vitamin D needed to overdose exceeds is way over 15000IU's. You would have to take an excessive amount for that to happen, or be out in the sun for days. Most people are deficient in vitamin D3, which is fat soluble. I was severely lacking in it, so my doctor suggested that I take 1 5000 softgel, daily, (especially during the winter months.) On a recent trip to my doctor, she told me that they were coming back a normal level and to continue taking it. Being that it is a fat soluble vitamin, I have to take it with fat for it to work effectively and to be absorbed fully. I feel allot better than I did, this time last year. Have not had any joint pain or, mood swings, or anything of the sort. These are all of the things, that vitamin D3 is good for, and it seems to be helping.

There are some people who get the vit D from multiple sources and thus the OD situation.

It depends on which one your talking about. Vitamin D2, (which is not beneficial to the body, in all forms) can be toxic if taken in large doses. Vitamin D3 on the otherhand, IS more beneficial to the body, and can only be found in pill and liquid form. It is also processed by the body differently and is therefore, no as toxic as D2.

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