TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

At this point, fuck a Java.

I don't see why we need it anymore. We've evolved and yet they still keep hanging around...

While using Chromium & Firefox, I notice no difference from how things were when I had the Java plugin.

I noticed a difference with my Firefox setup. Without Java, some of the extensions I regularly use no longer worked.

PDogz said:

TonyVanDam said:

While using Chromium & Firefox, I notice no difference from how things were when I had the Java plugin.

I noticed a difference with my Firefox setup. Without Java, some of the extensions I regularly use no longer worked.

What extensions do you use?

PDogz said:

TonyVanDam said:

So for the time being, it's only PC users with Windows and/or Linux that are left without a stable Java plugin. That figured.

That's not true. Just follow this link to automatically download the appropriate (stable...for the time being) version of Java for your OS and browser.

Free Java Download

Lubuntu (based on Ubuntu & Debian) can only use files from a DEB package. The free Java downloads are in the RPM package for Linux Distros based on Red Hat.

Timmy84 said:

PDogz said:

I noticed a difference with my Firefox setup. Without Java, some of the extensions I regularly use no longer worked.

What extensions do you use?

Check your orgnotes.

TonyVanDam said:

PDogz said:

That's not true. Just follow this link to automatically download the appropriate (stable...for the time being) version of Java for your OS and browser.

Free Java Download

Lubuntu (based on Ubuntu & Debian) can only use files from a DEB package. The free Java downloads are in the RPM package for Linux Distros based on Red Hat.

I'm assuming that means it didn't work for you , in which case I apologize, lol.

PDogz said:

TonyVanDam said:

Lubuntu (based on Ubuntu & Debian) can only use files from a DEB package. The free Java downloads are in the RPM package for Linux Distros based on Red Hat.

I'm assuming that means it didn't work for you , in which case I apologize, lol.

It means I couldn't use it even if I wanted to because it's not in a DEB package so I can install it in Lubuntu. It's not your fault.

Serious Flaw in Java Software Is Found, Then Patched, New York Times

I've uninstalled Java is was a pain in the ass anyway... no issues yet and doubt I'll have any.

PDogz said:

TonyVanDam said:

While using Chromium & Firefox, I notice no difference from how things were when I had the Java plugin.

I noticed a difference with my Firefox setup. Without Java, some of the extensions I regularly use no longer worked.

That's what I was trying to find out about but everybody ignored my question. What happens when you disable Java?

Sites like Facebook won't work properly. You might be able to use them to a certain extent, but you'll find that certain functions don't work.

The biggest problem with contemporary web design is that people insist on using animated menus and other nonsense that relies on Java. It would be fine and everything if Java itself itself wouldn't have so many compability issues with browsers.

Seriously, who needs some menu to bounce up and down when you press a link? That's the type of unnecessary shit that costs time and money when trying to sort out the problems those things cause at work with the computers. Many companies have been complaining about not being able to access the financial news on Yahoo. Why don't they work on some computers? Yep, because of some completely unnecessary Java applet that's coded badly.

babynoz said:

PDogz said:

I noticed a difference with my Firefox setup. Without Java, some of the extensions I regularly use no longer worked.

That's what I was trying to find out about but everybody ignored my question. What happens when you disable Java?

Basically speaking, Java provides a more interactive web experience by enhancing your browser's capabilities. If you are more of a general user of the Internet, logging into the org, checking e-mails and such, you're not likely to notice much of a difference with Java disabled. The Internet prior to 1994 was basically a Java-free experience. With Java-enabled browsers, more varied and complex tasks can be executed through the Internet.

novabrkr said:

Sites like Facebook won't work properly. You might be able to use them to a certain extent, but you'll find that certain functions don't work.

The biggest problem with contemporary web design is that people insist on using animated menus and other nonsense that relies on Java. It would be fine and everything if Java itself itself wouldn't have so many compability issues with browsers.

This is why they need to not rely on it so much if they're really gonna still work with Java by 2016... I mean they keep changing Windows, you think they get rid of Java!

XxAxX said:

am i the only person who goes into task manager at start up and shuts down all those crappy little auto start programs like javaupdatescheduler and stuff? wish i knew how to program the start menu completely myself

If you're using Windows....

Start - Run - msconfig - Startup

Allows you to disable "all those crappy little" programs.

novabrkr said:

Sites like Facebook won't work properly. You might be able to use them to a certain extent, but you'll find that certain functions don't work.

The biggest problem with contemporary web design is that people insist on using animated menus and other nonsense that relies on Java. It would be fine and everything if Java itself itself wouldn't have so many compability issues with browsers.

Thank youuuu!

PDogz said:

babynoz said:

That's what I was trying to find out about but everybody ignored my question. What happens when you disable Java?

Basically speaking, Java provides a more interactive web experience by enhancing your browser's capabilities. If you are more of a general user of the Internet, logging into the org, checking e-mails and such, you're not likely to notice much of a difference with Java disabled. The Internet prior to 1994 was basically a Java-free experience. With Java-enabled browsers, more varied and complex tasks can be executed through the Internet.

Thank you too...

Java is a programming language that is used for standalone applications and JavaScript is something that runs on browsers (it's a "programming language" too, but much simpler).

That's not to say that Java programs wouldn't run on browsers if they're just loaded to the memory of your OS and displayed as parts of web pages by the web browser. Confusing, I know.

After writing that I realize that Facebook might actually use just Javascript for most of the functions that the average user uses the site for. Java's used, uhm, for the "apps" that they have on their site?

novabrkr said:

After writing that I realize that Facebook might actually use just Javascript for most of the functions that the average user uses the site for. Java's used, uhm, for the "apps" that they have on their site?

Yeah Java's only used for the apps. If you have Javascript, everything on Facebook should work just fine. Contrary to popular belief, Java and Javascript are actually two different things.

Timmy84 said:

novabrkr said:

After writing that I realize that Facebook might actually use just Javascript for most of the functions that the average user uses the site for. Java's used, uhm, for the "apps" that they have on their site?

Yeah Java's only used for the apps. If you have Javascript, everything on Facebook should work just fine. Contrary to popular belief, Java and Javascript are actually two different things.

Exactly. I still have Javascript no matter what.