welcome back!

ThisOne said:

Fauxie said:

No, she's in Bangkok. She does like the UK though, for visiting at least (especially at Xmas), but she doesn't want to live here. I can't blame her. We speak on the phone several times a day and she's doing well so that means I'm not worrying. We're feeling good, but after the distraction of the novelty of being back on the outside has passed, and for me seeing family, xmas and all that, I'm now really starting to miss her a LOT. I missed her from day 1 of being apart, of course, but we're grown folks and it was alright, ya know? Been apart for months before. Today though I'm just missing my baby! I'm going to head back to Bangkok before too long, I think. Can't find a freaking job in this grey, depressing country.

i hope i didnt upset u by bringing it up

go back to Bangkok and find a job there damn it!!!!

That's alright.

Dave1992 said:

Wow, what a brilliant piece of work. You're a master of stylistics.

Wait a minute...

No, you posted here, so surely didn't miss anything.

Fauxie said:

Dave1992 said:

Wow, what a brilliant piece of work. You're a master of stylistics.

Wait a minute...

No, you posted here, so surely didn't miss anything.

I thought you were referring to this thread, so I looked it up with the search function, not realising you had dug it out already!

Yes, I did, but I didn't know about the circumstances surrounded your story and how much of it was "real"...

Dave1992 said:

Fauxie said:

Wait a minute...

No, you posted here, so surely didn't miss anything.

I thought you were referring to this thread, so I looked it up with the search function, not realising you had dug it out already!

Yes, I did, but I didn't know about the circumstances surrounded your story and how much of it was "real"...

I guess in my mind it was self-explanatory, having been eating, breathing, sleeping, living the experience and then coming to write about it, but to others completely unaware of my circumstances it wasn't obvious at all, coming out of nowhere like that.

you should journal what happened. your description is colorful

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beautiful writing, fauxie. just... incredible prose.

although, maybe a paragraph break or two wouldnt hurt. even james joyce saw the need for them.

this was my favorite line:

"Stirred from parquet-prone slumps to rumps to knees to feet by keys ajangle down the dingy corridor, heard or if still stupor state stuck then felt, as all melt as one in amorphous undead, bedhead, up-fucked, down-lucked, inked-up, down-trod plod, mass dragassing to the door."

that is some clever fucking wording and imagery.

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Fauxie said:

imago said:

...your lips around my penis, your lips around my peeeeeennnnuuus

I missed your loads.

this is starting to sound like org slash fiction

Cerebus said:

cborgman said:

beautiful writing, fauxie. just... incredible prose.

although, maybe a paragraph break or two wouldnt hurt. even james joyce saw the need for them.

Thanks!

Yeah It started as a poem (your favourite line being the first I came up with) and then became this growing piece of poetic prose and I just didn't even attempt to put paragraph breaks in there. I was sat on the floor with it all in sections on little scraps of paper, not writing it down all in one place nor in order.

XxAxX said:

you should journal what happened. your description is colorful

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I wrote a diary over 4 exercise books, filled with all kinds of stuff, and not just thoughts about being in prison. I hope it'll make quite an interesting read for someone someday! Well, I have thought about making a webpage with excerpts, but I dunno... don't know if I want to.

cborgman said:

this was my favorite line:

"Stirred from parquet-prone slumps to rumps to knees to feet by keys ajangle down the dingy corridor, heard or if still stupor state stuck then felt, as all melt as one in amorphous undead, bedhead, up-fucked, down-lucked, inked-up, down-trod plod, mass dragassing to the door."

that is some clever fucking wording and imagery.

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Thank you!

Fauxie said:

cborgman said:

beautiful writing, fauxie. just... incredible prose.

although, maybe a paragraph break or two wouldnt hurt. even james joyce saw the need for them.

Thanks!

Yeah It started as a poem (your favourite line being the first I came up with) and then became this growing piece of poetic prose and I just didn't even attempt to put paragraph breaks in there. I was sat on the floor with it all in sections on little scraps of paper, not writing it down all in one place nor in order.

maybe you should write more. you seem to have a natural and rather strong gift for it

Fauxie said:

XxAxX said:

you should journal what happened. your description is colorful

[Edited 2/27/13 16:20pm]

I wrote a diary over 4 exercise books, filled with all kinds of stuff, and not just thoughts about being in prison. I hope it'll make quite an interesting read for someone someday! Well, I have thought about making a webpage with excerpts, but I dunno... don't know if I want to.

it might be too recent to look at right now, but hold onto it and maybe start looking at it with an editing eye when you feel more relaxed about it.

if the above is any indication, there is some really good stuff in there.

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cborgman said:

Fauxie said:

Thanks!

Yeah It started as a poem (your favourite line being the first I came up with) and then became this growing piece of poetic prose and I just didn't even attempt to put paragraph breaks in there. I was sat on the floor with it all in sections on little scraps of paper, not writing it down all in one place nor in order.

maybe you should write more. you seem to have a natural and rather strong gift for it

People have told me that from time to time, not least family receiving my letters from prison lol, and though I guess I'm better than your average guy on the street, I don't have the passion for it that, say, my brother has. He's a journalist (writes about comedy, film, TV). I think I'd need to really love it, right?

Fauxie said:

cborgman said:

maybe you should write more. you seem to have a natural and rather strong gift for it

People have told me that from time to time, not least family receiving my letters from prison lol, and though I guess I'm better than your average guy on the street, I don't have the passion for it that, say, my brother has. He's a journalist (writes about comedy, film, TV). I think I'd need to really love it, right?

shades of grey...

loving the process helps, but is far from the only reason to write. few writers (or rather few good writers) write because they love the process. on some level, you have to learn to at least respect the process, particularly if you want to do it more than once. i respect the process a lot and like it a little, but i am also lazy about starting it.

and everyone comes up with their own version of the process, which is necessary. there is no singular verson of the process that works for all. my co-author on the musical was terrible at the process, and i showed him the slips of paper on the floor method, which helped us get his 3 hour script down to 90 minutes that we then rewrote together.

but most writers (or again; most good ones) write because they have something that has to be said or a story that needs to be told.

and everything about the above piece screams you have a story that's stretching your seams, and pushing to get out.

that need and energy is writing gold. you just have to learn how to harness it.

a normal person does not repurpose 4 cookbooks to fill with journaling. you have a writers soul and a story that needs to be told.

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cborgman said:

Fauxie said:

People have told me that from time to time, not least family receiving my letters from prison lol, and though I guess I'm better than your average guy on the street, I don't have the passion for it that, say, my brother has. He's a journalist (writes about comedy, film, TV). I think I'd need to really love it, right?

shades of grey...

loving the process helps, but is far from the only reason to write. few writers (or rather few good writers) write because they love the process. on some level, you have to learn to at least respect the process, particularly if you want to do it more than once. i respect the process a lot and like it a little, but i am also lazy about starting it.

and everyone comes up with their own version of the process, which is necessary. there is no singular verson of the process that works for all. my co-author on the musical was terrible at the process, and i showed him the slips of paper on the floor method, which helped us get his 3 hour script down to 90 minutes that we then rewrote together.

but most writers (or again; most good ones) write because they have something that has to be said or a story that needs to be told.

and everything about the above piece screams you have a story that's stretching your seams, and pushing to get out.

that need and energy is writing gold. you just have to learn how to harness it.

a normal person does not repurpose 4 cookbooks to fill with journaling. you have a writers soul and a story that needs to be told.

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Makes a lot of sense. The thing is, I can go whole years not wanting to write anything, or maybe writing a little but not being bothered about anyone reading what I've written, and I laugh off any notion of being a 'writer'. Other times I'll have a burst of writing and it's all I'll think about until the writing's complete, and then, as with this little piece here, I want people to read it and give feedback. I'm probably the same with photography though. Thanks for your insight! Coming from you this is all really interesting, useful stuff.

Fauxie said:

cborgman said:

shades of grey...

loving the process helps, but is far from the only reason to write. few writers (or rather few good writers) write because they love the process. on some level, you have to learn to at least respect the process, particularly if you want to do it more than once. i respect the process a lot and like it a little, but i am also lazy about starting it.

and everyone comes up with their own version of the process, which is necessary. there is no singular verson of the process that works for all. my co-author on the musical was terrible at the process, and i showed him the slips of paper on the floor method, which helped us get his 3 hour script down to 90 minutes that we then rewrote together.

but most writers (or again; most good ones) write because they have something that has to be said or a story that needs to be told.

and everything about the above piece screams you have a story that's stretching your seams, and pushing to get out.

that need and energy is writing gold. you just have to learn how to harness it.

a normal person does not repurpose 4 cookbooks to fill with journaling. you have a writers soul and a story that needs to be told.

[Edited 2/27/13 23:53pm]

Makes a lot of sense. The thing is, I can go whole years not wanting to write anything, or maybe writing a little but not being bothered about anyone reading what I've written, and I laugh off any notion of being a 'writer'. Other times I'll have a burst of writing and it's all I'll think about until the writing's complete, and then, as with this little piece here, I want people to read it and give feedback. I'm probably the same with photography though. Thanks for your insight! Coming from you this is all really interesting, useful stuff.

sometimes the passion and need is there, sometimes it isnt. best not to force it.

but when its there, ITS THERE.

in the five years it has taken me to write the 5 play cycle, you would be amazed how little of it was actual writing when compressed down.

not counting revisions;

part 1 took about 13 months, but it also started as a musical, and wasnt intended to be a part of anything. once i got the rights back to my script & characters and stripped out their music that wasnt working, i rebuilt the pieces of it into what became part 1.

part 2 took 9 months.

part 3 only took about 3 months.

part 4 took about 6 months, then i walked away for a year, and took another 3 months once i came back to it.

part 5 is still in process, but took only about 2 months so far, and its over halfway done.

i never try to force it though, hence the long gaps. it shows when you are forcing it.

cborgman said:

Fauxie said:

Makes a lot of sense. The thing is, I can go whole years not wanting to write anything, or maybe writing a little but not being bothered about anyone reading what I've written, and I laugh off any notion of being a 'writer'. Other times I'll have a burst of writing and it's all I'll think about until the writing's complete, and then, as with this little piece here, I want people to read it and give feedback. I'm probably the same with photography though. Thanks for your insight! Coming from you this is all really interesting, useful stuff.

sometimes the passion and need is there, sometimes it isnt. best not to force it.

but when its there, ITS THERE.

in the five years it has taken me to write the 5 play cycle, you would be amazed how little of it was actual writing when compressed down.

not counting revisions;

part 1 took about 13 months, but it also started as a musical, and wasnt intended to be a part of anything. once i got the rights back to my script & characters and stripped out their music that wasnt working, i rebuilt the pieces of it into what became part 1.

part 2 took 9 months.

part 3 only took about 3 months.

part 4 took about 6 months, then i walked away for a year, and took another 3 months once i came back to it.

part 5 is still in process, but took only about 2 months so far, and its over halfway done.

i never try to force it though, hence the long gaps. it shows when you are forcing it.

Yeah, that's just pockets of activity.

That is the most frightening Windows 8 product installation description I have ever read.

imago said:

That is the most frightening Windows 8 product installation description I have ever read.

Windows 8 just needs tweaking.

imago said:

That is the most frightening Windows 8 product installation description I have ever read.

Hey, go post your ain'tnobodygottimefordonk pic on my new photowhore thread that I'm about to make.

is that picture similar scenario to where you were kept for 16 months?

Cuddles said:

is that picture similar scenario to where you were kept for 16 months?

Exactly like it. There's a hierarchy. Guys sleeping in the middle there, at the bottom of ppls' feet, would be new prisoners, or longer-term prisoners not from Thailand (typically Burma, Laos or Cambodia). We had up to 52 (while I was there) in one cell, with one toilet. The cell was 10m x 5m. Wait, I drew a diagram while I was there. I'll just scan it.

So there where it says 'box' you find the very newest prisoners, and prisoners who've been inside a few months but are from Burma, Cambodia, Laos, and occasionally Vietnam. The ppl sleeping down the centre of the room have it next toughest, and they would typically be new-ish prisoners or ppl without the money or means to make a 'bed' (out of many blankets on top of each other and stitched together). If you get along with ppl ok, and have the money (or a friend to help) to make a bed, you should find yourself sleeping in your own regular space down the sides of the cell within 5 or 6 months, assuming some ppl get released, moved to other cells, buildings or prisons so that you can sufficiently move up in the queue. In the diagram the stick men are all lying with their legs stretched out fully (though not those in the box). In reality, unless you're short or it's a rare period where you've under 40 ppl in your cell so there are only 1 or 2 ppl sleeping side by side down the middle of the cell, you have to sleep on your side with your legs bent. Sometimes during hot season a lot of us would turn around to sleep with our heads in the centre of the room so that we'd be under the ceiling fans. Often half would be one way and half the other, which made a night-time trip to the toilet a lot of fun.

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Fauxie said:

Cuddles said:

is that picture similar scenario to where you were kept for 16 months?

Exactly like it. There's a hierarchy. Guys sleeping in the middle there, at the bottom of ppls' feet, would be new prisoners, or longer-term prisoners not from Thailand (typically Burma, Laos or Cambodia). We had up to 52 (while I was there) in one cell, with one toilet. The cell was 10m x 5m. Wait, I drew a diagram while I was there. I'll just scan it.

Wow, I would wig out. That's something like dante's inferno.

Fauxie said:

So there where it says 'box' you find the very newest prisoners, and prisoners who've been inside a few months but are from Burma, Cambodia, Laos, and occasionally Vietnam. The ppl sleeping down the centre of the room have it next toughest, and they would typically be new-ish prisoners or ppl without the money or means to make a 'bed' (out of many blankets on top of each other and stitched together). If you get along with ppl ok, and have the money (or a friend to help) to make a bed, you should find yourself sleeping in your own regular space down the sides of the cell within 5 or 6 months, assuming some ppl get released, moved to other cells, buildings or prisons so that you can sufficiently move up in the queue. In the diagram the stick men are all lying with their legs stretched out fully (though not those in the box). In reality, unless you're short or it's a rare period where you've under 40 ppl in your cell so there are only 1 or 2 ppl sleeping side by side down the middle of the cell, you have to sleep on your side with your legs bent.

looks like you had one of the better spots

Cuddles said:

Fauxie said:

So there where it says 'box' you find the very newest prisoners, and prisoners who've been inside a few months but are from Burma, Cambodia, Laos, and occasionally Vietnam. The ppl sleeping down the centre of the room have it next toughest, and they would typically be new-ish prisoners or ppl without the money or means to make a 'bed' (out of many blankets on top of each other and stitched together). If you get along with ppl ok, and have the money (or a friend to help) to make a bed, you should find yourself sleeping in your own regular space down the sides of the cell within 5 or 6 months, assuming some ppl get released, moved to other cells, buildings or prisons so that you can sufficiently move up in the queue. In the diagram the stick men are all lying with their legs stretched out fully (though not those in the box). In reality, unless you're short or it's a rare period where you've under 40 ppl in your cell so there are only 1 or 2 ppl sleeping side by side down the middle of the cell, you have to sleep on your side with your legs bent.

looks like you had one of the better spots

Yeah, it was after sleeping down the middle for 4 months, often alongside 2 others. My old space was in the middle there in front of the door alongside a chubby guy and a properly fat guy. I was spared sleeping in the box on account of my height and started out initially sleeping down the middle just outside the toilet.