How do you all feel about Hentai or, as I have often heard it called, cartoon porn?

I have never thought much about it. Than today, I heard a lady on Bart going off about it.

She thinks it should be outlawed and that it promotes child molestation and romanticises rape.

What do you all think?

Any fans?

Should it be outlawed?

Discuss.

I don't think the ones involving rape (same goes for staged real-life porn) or children should be allowed. Other than that I'm fine with it. Doesn't turn me on but I don't see anything wrong with it.

I've watched far worse filmed porn- stuff sicker that 2 girls - than hentai, I don't like those at all nor will I watch manga or hentai because it's further proof that you're a weirdo loser. I do have a limit and it is this type of porn.

I like anime but i don't like hentai. I don't know why i just don't. A good friend told me once when I was talking in disgust about furries, they said, "you shoudn't yuck on others people yum." and they are right. I don't know, i think to each their own.

outlaw? nah!

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Hentai (and yaoi for that matter) are the weirdest forms of anime... it's not my thing but I laugh sometimes at what they say and they always supersize people's genitals and tits. The girls often have to speak all like squeaky Minnie Mouses and shit.

Taking it out of the legal frame of porn won't work, they could just block the content and not have to see it, of course.

Eeewww!

I've never heard of it.

Holy crap. I just googled it.

I didn't know that stuff was out there!

PurpleJedi said:

Holy crap. I just googled it.

I didn't know that stuff was out there!

Popped your cherry

i can't relate to this sort of nonsense, it goes right over my head & i'm not ashamed to admit it

Yaoi is just as bad if not worse sometimes.

For me, the age of consent is different in every country so 16 may be shocking to the USA, but

is consider permissable in some countries. So, that is relative to some extent.

However, rape is not. Rape is always violent, and depictions of inserting objects or of

tentacle rape (don't ask) are just encouraging this violance against women.

THrow in the fact that all the features of these cartoons depict characters with huge

westernized eyes (colour and size) to an exaggerated extent, and noses that are

Roman to the utmost, and the self-image issues that Asians have placed upon themselves

has become even more perverse.

LadyCasanova said:

PurpleJedi said:

Holy crap. I just googled it.

I didn't know that stuff was out there!

Popped your cherry

imago said:

Yaoi is just as bad if not worse sometimes.

For me, the age of consent is different in every country so 16 may be shocking to the USA, but

is consider permissable in some countries. So, that is relative to some extent.

However, rape is not. Rape is always violent, and depictions of inserting objects or of

tentacle rape (don't ask) are just encouraging this violance against women.

THrow in the fact that all the features of these cartoons depict characters with huge

westernized eyes (colour and size) to an exaggerated extent, and noses that are

Roman to the utmost, and the self-image issues that Asians have placed upon themselves

has become even more perverse.

This is something I've always wondered about when I see that kind of stuff. Even in regular anime I see it. It's very questionable.

To answer your question.....I like hentai. It's pretty funny. I like cartoons and sex, so of course cartoons having sex is alright with me. I don't condone the weird raping or grown men/women with underaged under developed looking kids kinda stuff. It creeps me out. But I vote to 'yay'!

It's something that is unique to Japanese culture, and I think it should be left there where it belongs for people to enjoy as they wish. It's not their fault that with the advent of internet it's magically made it's way into the West where people have no conceptual clue about Japanese attitudes towards sex . Different culture, different concepts of sexuality, different tastes. I used to have a small apartment in Tokyo (Shinjuku) before, and actually on viewing Hentai for the first time the only thing it ever did for me was make me burst out in hysterical laughter.

Timmy84 said:

Hentai (and yaoi for that matter) are the weirdest forms of anime... it's not my thing but I laugh sometimes at what they say and they always supersize people's genitals and tits. The girls often have to speak all like squeaky Minnie Mouses and shit.

Taking it out of the legal frame of porn won't work, they could just block the content and not have to see it, of course.

That's because delicate, higher pitched voices are considered the essence of femininity in Japanese culture. As a woman over there if you sound like Aunt Esther from Sanford and Son, then Houston, we got a problem

Ottensen said:

Timmy84 said:

Hentai (and yaoi for that matter) are the weirdest forms of anime... it's not my thing but I laugh sometimes at what they say and they always supersize people's genitals and tits. The girls often have to speak all like squeaky Minnie Mouses and shit.

Taking it out of the legal frame of porn won't work, they could just block the content and not have to see it, of course.

That's because delicate, higher pitched voices are considered the essence of femininity in Japanese culture. As a woman over there if you sound like Aunt Esther from Sanford and Son, then Houston, we got a problem

imago said:

Yaoi is just as bad if not worse sometimes.

For me, the age of consent is different in every country so 16 may be shocking to the USA, but

is consider permissable in some countries. So, that is relative to some extent.

However, rape is not. Rape is always violent, and depictions of inserting objects or of

tentacle rape (don't ask) are just encouraging this violance against women.

THrow in the fact that all the features of these cartoons depict characters with huge

westernized eyes (colour and size) to an exaggerated extent, and noses that are

Roman to the utmost, and the self-image issues that Asians have placed upon themselves

has become even more perverse.

Im still trying to figure out how the Yakuza (Japanese mob), are able to film their train rape porn on these crowded ass trains in what often appears to be broad daylight around ordinary citizens with no one taking notice. It's the oddest thing: people in mainstream culture don't hug or kiss in public, PDA is highly frowned upon, but you can buy virgin's underwear in vending machines and there's a time honored tradition of rape in their porn culture.

As for tentacle erotica, there are two kinds; consensual and non.consensual. I always found Japanese consensual tentacle erotica to be from erotic art in the 1800's, (i.e. Shunga). In Shunga, the woman actually enjoyed the experience with the tentacled lover. The woman was a willing participant so overcome by desire that yada yada yada, she yielded passionately to the tentacled sea creature. The images were normally done on wood carvings with text accompanying the picture, usually the woman starts off sternly admonishing the creature until she can't resist his advances, and then she's telling it what to do, how to do it, ect. Tentacle erotica from the Shunga of the 1800's has actually been inspiration for some Japanese feminists regarding sexuality, especially in a culture where you are supposed to be a non-assertive, tiny, delicate flower.

.... but then somewhere in time we ended up with anime (and the occasional live action porn) that turned this once middle class art form into tentacle rape, to appeal to fetishists in the Hentai and horror anime genres-- where the chick's squealing and being taken by force. Some art critics & scholars say that the shift was due to the Japanese male mindset being changed through the violence they perpetuated/experienced in and after WW2...but I don't know..it's just so way out there for me and always looked so silly, I guess never thought of context and how it's related to the issues Japan has there in terms of non-consensual sex, rape, public molestation, etc.

I'm not even going to touch the aesthetics part...I'll never get that and I'm not even going to pretend that I understand it in the least

I like it, on the whole. Maybe I should instead say I find it interesting, perhaps because I don't really fully understand it. It intrigues me, I guess. Rape is something different altogether though. Even if in cartoon form, rape and sexually arousing entertainment should not be one and the same thing. Tentacle rape is completely phantasmagorical and so not as bad, in my eyes, as human on human (cartoon characters) rape. Still, I don't get it and I don't like it.

I think it causes mental de-sensativity, cartoonish looking characters dressed and talking like children or rather little girls with boobs, in some instances I've seen being raped where she screams and begs for whoever to stop but she still has an orgasm and squirts all over the place from it, it ain't helpful or educational in any form or fashion. Sexual stimuli, that teaches you nothing about sex I don't understand it's purpose.

Ottensen said:

Timmy84 said:

Hentai (and yaoi for that matter) are the weirdest forms of anime... it's not my thing but I laugh sometimes at what they say and they always supersize people's genitals and tits. The girls often have to speak all like squeaky Minnie Mouses and shit.

Taking it out of the legal frame of porn won't work, they could just block the content and not have to see it, of course.

That's because delicate, higher pitched voices are considered the essence of femininity in Japanese culture. As a woman over there if you sound like Aunt Esther from Sanford and Son, then Houston, we got a problem

Hentai is one of the few thing's on the internet that grosses me the fuck out...

I have even been on gore websites and i can say Hentai has grossed me out more than that shit(crazy right?).

I mean it's whatever people like what they like.. but i seen shit were like a girl will have 2 dicks and a tentacle...

OMGAWD don't even get me started on the type of Hentai that shows famous cartoon characters fucking

Sometimes when i go on gay porn sites pop-ups come up and it's Aladdin fucking Jafar or The Genie fuckng the sultan... or Peter Griffin being fucked by Fred Flinstone

Were people just dying to see the Genie and Fred Flinstone fuck? cheesus christ

Hentai has the most hilarious dubs. " Go on bitch. I wanna come now! "

First of all, the age of consent is different in every country, so what might not seem "normal" in one country, might be perfectly acceptable in another.

Plus, prohibiting (the simulation of) under-age sex or someone having sex with a very young person will not reduce the number of paedophiles or paedophile crimes in the world. Neither will it encourage or increase similar behaviour.

The same goes for the "rape" scenes. No matter what kind of porn you watch, you have to be bright and realistic enough to understand what it is you're looking at. If you think you can shove your penis up a woman's arse and slap her across the face just because you feel like doing it and because you've seen it in porn, you're an idiot. And you would always remain an idiot, whether you had seen that kind of pornography or not.

And, many people (especially women) have "rape-fantasies". We have to, of course, distinguish between actual rape and the simple act of being manhandled and taken advantage of (hell, even I like to be slapped in the face, pushed against the bed and not being listened to when I say that I simply can't take no more. And I have had many women who enjoyed rough treatment, too). What is shown in these "rape" videos has, of course, nothing to do with the tragedy of actual rape. I enjoy the thought of "using" someone and making them give me what I want (even if it involves physical force), but at the same time I would like to beat up any rapists out there. And child molesters, for that matter.

So, as I always say: allow everything, but raise the level of education.

I wonder how folks try to recreate the fantasy in their own lives for those who get their rocks off on a cartoon? I know some people who look at porn want to experience what they see for real, not all but some, I'd think it would be rather difficult with a drawing.

Dave1992 said:

Plus, prohibiting (the simulation of) under-age sex or someone having sex with a very young person will not reduce the number of paedophiles or paedophile crimes in the world. Neither will it encourage or increase similar behaviour.

The same goes for the "rape" scenes.

I'm not entirely sure about this.

I do feel that when we portray violence as normal or acceptable, in porn or in TV, and those

messages are readily available, it can have a lasting effect on those watching it. Hentai, which

studies have shown attracts a younger male audience, has a habit of showing males as sexual

aggressors. Compounded onto the violence and torture is the fact that the male rapists go

unpunished, and are often shown as being very smug/ even happier once the female

has been raped/used etc.

What is worse, in my opinion, is that Hentai paints a picture of a female subject who is much more

sexually willing after she has been raped or tortured over a period of time. Only than is she willing

and able to please. It pisses me off to see that Hentai will provide a "strong" female only

to show her being "properly" beaten into submission, raped, tortured, a combo of all three, or she

becomes an aggressor as well.

I do believe that younger boys can be affected by these messages. Especially since they are

learning to associate sexual pleasure (beating off etc) with women being raped, beaten, or gang banged

A desensitization to violence will increase acception of violence and may even result in violent

behavior, imho.

I do not believe that all porn is wrong or that all Hentail results in negative behavior. I am

specifically talking about porn that shows violence being done to women without the womens

consent.

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LadyCasanova said:

Dave1992 said:

Plus, prohibiting (the simulation of) under-age sex or someone having sex with a very young person will not reduce the number of paedophiles or paedophile crimes in the world. Neither will it encourage or increase similar behaviour.

The same goes for the "rape" scenes.

I'm not entirely sure about this.

I do feel that when we portray violence as normal or acceptable, in porn or in TV, and those

messages are readily available, it can have a lasting effect on those watching it. Hentai, which

studies have shown attracts a younger male audience, has a habit of showing males as sexual

aggressors. Compounded onto the violence and torture is the fact that the male rapists go

unpunished, and are often shown as being very smug/ even happier once the female

has been raped/used etc.

What is worse, in my opinion, is that Hentai paints a picture of a female subject who is much more

sexually willing after she has been raped or tortured over a period of time. Only than is she willing

and able to please. It pisses me off to see that Hentai will provide a "strong" female only

to show her being "properly" beaten into submission, raped, tortured, a combo of all three, or she

becomes an aggressor as well.

I do believe that younger boys can be affected by these messages. Especially since they are

learning to associate sexual pleasure (beating off etc) with women being raped, beaten, or gang banged

A desensitization to violence will increase acception of violence and may even result in violent

behavior, imho.

I do not believe that all porn is wrong or that all Hentail results in negative behavior. I am

specifically talking about porn that shows violence being done to women without the womens

consent.

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Hmm. I get your point completely and I also agree with most of it. However, I don't think Hentai is part of the root of this evil. It lies deeper.

Let me put it this way, using myself as an example, if I may:

I (not always and not regularly) do like the thought of degrading a person sexually and doing everything I know is wrong - beating the shit out of them, forcing them, showing them how much stronger I am physically, taking what I want and then telling them to fuck off (most probably because I am not the biggest and bulkiest of men and because there is usually a hopeless romantic inside of me holding me back from being that cold-hearted).

So, in that sense, I "condone" rape porn, or however you might call it. I don't watch it myself, I don't need it myself, I would never rape anyone, but I find the fantasy hot from time to time and think that I can be fulfilled in reality, with the right partner, without harming anyone, with certain sane boundaries.

The thing is, there is something else, apart from the hopeless romantic inside of me, that's holding me back from actually raping someone. It's my conscience and my divine ability to distinguish between what's "okay" and what simply isn't. And if I'm not one hundred per cent sure, I will ask my partner before jumping to conclusions.

Now, I used to watch all kinds of porn in my early teens, including the filthiest, nastiest, most aggressive pseudo rape shit that was out there. It was just part of the experience, nothing special. Still, if I read the newspapers and see something about someone being raped, never for one second do I associate what I read with sexual desire. Because, actual rape is real, and what happens in my bed about once a month is just a simulation of it (which partly turns me on because I know that she likes it too). I simply still think that there is too much of a inhibition threshold for people to actually consider raping someone, just because they once saw a pseudo rape scene that turned them on.

And, vice versa, if someone were affected that easily by seeing an actress being degraded by other actors, that person is an idiot anyway and will find a way to treat women badly, with or without the "encouragement" of porn.

Sorry for the length of this post; I am actually rambling on about the same thing non-stop... Please, Lady, punish me for that; slap me in the face, sit on my face, ride me hard and force me to come inside of you!

Hentai is stupid. Do people actually get off on this shit?

okay let set one thing straight. Yaoi isn't porn. Yaoi and also Shonen-Ai. Refers to stories in which the common characters are men who fall in love with each other. In the newer mangas and or anime sex iis rarely shown. Yaoi is made by women for women. I think we are getting confused with Bara manga or gay manga which made by men for men, bara is more pornographic.

Rococo said:

okay let set one thing straight. Yaoi isn't porn. Yaoi and also Shonen-Ai. Refers to stories in which the common characters are men who fall in love with each other. In the newer mangas and or anime sex iis rarely shown. Yaoi is made by women for women. I think we are getting confused with Bara manga or gay manga which made by men for men, bara is more pornographic.

I've been on Tumblr too long because that's what I thought yaoi was. Thanks for clearing it up. I never even heard of manga or bara lol