Timmy84 said:
Ottensen said:
From watching her show, it's clear that Cissy has no control over what Bobbi Kristina will do, actually no one does. It appears that she loves her elder relatives very much (ironically, in spite of her behaviors she's very loving and respectful to her elders; it's hard to hate on a kid that still knows how to answer yes m'am and hug them and kiss them without prompting), but make no mistake she's going to do what she wants to do and everyone is pretty much powerless to stop her.
It's a trciky situation because on one hand you see that they are all close-knit as a family- thick as thieves, but Bobbi K. is young (even though legally an adult), rebellious, rich, and hormonal (it's pretty obvious she's sprung off of Nick's you-know-what) and one false move with anyone attempting to discipline her can drive her away from the fold into the real world, where there will really be nasty people waiting to take advantage of her, use her up and leave her in the gutter with nothing without giving a damn. Her family is clearly walking a tightrope with trying to figure out how to help guide her down the right path.
Also, now seeing Cissy and camera interacting with others, Cissy reminds me very much of my own father in that while they were once spry, mighty, and authoritative---the reality is that they are now old and weakened: they have not energy, stamina, nor understanding to be able to keep up with this younger generation. There's not a lot an older woman in her position will be able to do with a 19 year old adult that's running wild, other than pull out her cane and beat the hell out them (which is how the whole family jokes what's it's like to go up against "Grandma"); but that old skool way won't work with someone that has the issues the magnitude of what Bobbi K. is dealing with. Frankly, I believe it's time for her to go into therapy. The love and support technique is all fine and well, but beyond this it's almost amounting to no more than everyone walking on eggshells around Bobbi K; no one has the tools to really help her in the way that she needs to be helped, so it would appear that it's time to defer to professionals that can help her progress.
See? I hate to hear that about Cissy getting old and all that... but I guess you're right. Krissy needs some real guidance. It's obvious Pat won't provide it and neither will Nick or even her father Bobby at this point.
Po' Cissy. she got that "old" look about her that people start getting in their 70's and 80's. But according to the family she'll still pick up a bat and knock somebody out to protect them : she is still the boss and they all bow down to her...but she's weakening. You can see it.
Pat has no spine and as a result is an enabler. I think she actually means well truth be told (and it's clear this family is close, and Krissy loves her up) , but discipline is not her strong point in any way and she needs a backbone. She's using the "parent as friend" approach in order not to alienate, and it ain't working.
Nick...oh my gawd, this kid. You know what? On one hand he is well spoken , comes off pleasant, extremely nerdy...but don't think he doesn't know what side his bread is buttered on by humping his former God-sister and saying yes to every stupid idea that comes out of her mouth. He opens his mouth and all you hear is the foolish folly of youth and inexperience coming out in Jerry Lewis's Nutty Professor accent .
You can tell all those two are doing is enjoying the first times of sexing, drinking and laying up playing video games at every opportunity. They are BOTH essentially children masquerading as adults who really aren't trying to grow up at the same time, yet also trying to convince Auntie, Uncle, and Grandma Cissy that they're not "doing it"...in their matching outfits no less . A typical episode goes like this between them:
"Nick, lets go drinking!" = Nick replying, "Okay Krissy "
"Nick, I took too many pills today!" = "Okay, Krissy" "
"Nick, we're engaged now & I'm going use Mom's ring as my placeholder!" = "Okay, Krissy
"Nick lets blow everything off today so I can sit down and daydream about our future!" = "Okay, Krissy"
This kid has absolutely nothing he can teach her because he's still wet behind the ears himself (his goofy demeanor reminds me a little bit of Charles from "welcome to Sweetie Pies")...but Nick's also likely figured out that as long as he stays henpecked by Krissy, the easier it will be to keep her d**k whipped. that crazy chile can't go half a day without being around Nick, acting like damn Juliet missing Romeo when his ass is usually just around the corner somewhere. As a female you can't tell me he's not that girl's "first". That would account for why she carries on like a fool over him, while simultaneously leading him around on a leash with him yessing her all day long
With Bobby, she says that they are estranged and eventually will reconcile, and a few episodes back she just admitted point blank that she simply doesn't want to see her dad married to another woman other than her mom. She doesn't like the woman he married, they do not get along, and that's that. So they do not have contact right now.
I watched the latest episode today, and it really struck me that Krissy, while she has a total Jeckyl Hyde personality (good-mannered girl who keeps jumping off the cliff into self-destructive behavior), is also rather spoiled. You can see how being an only child with two crazy parents has made her incredibly headstrong to where no one can control her now that her mom is not here, and she is the "golden child" going wrong with everything and everyone at her beck and call. On one hand she wants to be babied (which everyone does a fine job of that ) but then wants to act grown, shirk responsibility and disrespect the family, all while saying "yes m'am, and no sir " in the middle of her shenanigans. I'm actually scared for the girl when she gets that inheritance from Whitney's estate, because she will have no clue how to manage her life properly with all that money to assist her in her tomfoolery.
People can say what they want about Pat (including her having the parenting skills of a wet dishrag, which I totally agree with), but one thing that is glaringly clear in this whole show fiasco is that Krissy always wanted to follow in her mom's footsteps, her mother took initial steps before she passed to get her into training to pursue the arts in a serious manner, and Krissy actually thrives best when she has something creative to channel her positive and negative energy: it's clear that it has a very healthy effect on her-which is why surprisingly the Tyler Perry project was good for her and helped her keep herself together in the wake of her mother's death. But now, with her self-medicating, this new obsessive young love, and just running wild and becoming lost...I actually hope her aunt will be able find more projects for her and use her industry contacts to keep her focused on pursuing what she says is her dream. Then... get her ass some serious therapy. Get her some therapy, then send her to hang out with somebody like Drew Barrymore- and let her learn something about surviving the crazy and choosing to thrive.